The Counter Game III: READ THE RULES BEFORE POSTING. Join the fun!

[kirbyraeg]

Doesn't that get 2hko'ed by Leaf Blade followed by Sucker Punch?

or failing that, ko'ed by a +2 leaf blade followed by a +2 sucker punch?

 

[Wave⁂]

How does he hit me three times? Or even twice?

 

[kirbyraeg]

Swords Dance on your switch-in, You charge up with sky attack as he leaf blades you, and sucker punches you on the turn that you would use sky attack.

 

[Wave⁂]

Oh ****, Sky Attack doesn't make you invincible.

Murkrow @ Focus Sash
Insomnia / Ronery
252 Atk / 170 SpAtk / 88 Speed
Heat Wave
Sucker Punch
Drill Peck
Frustration

 

[kirbyraeg]

It actually still gets ko'ed by leaf blade+sucker punch.

Leaf Blade: 68.6% max
Sucker Punch: 40.6% max

 

[Wave⁂]

HEATRAN @ LIFE ORB
Modest / Flash Fire
252 SpAtk / 252 Speed
Fire Blast
Hyper Beam
Earth Power
HP Grass

****ing NFEs

 

[kirbyraeg]

Mantyke @ Leftovers
252 HP/252 SpDef/4 Def
Calm / Water Absorb

Toxic
Surf
Air Slash
Ice Beam

 

[Blissard]

Blissey @ Leftovers
252 HP/252 Def/4 SpDef
Bold/Serene Grace

Toxic
Counter
Aromatherapy
Softboiled

 

[kirbyraeg]

Magnezone @ Wide Lens
252 HP/252 SpAtk/4 Def (0 Spe IV)
Quiet / Sturdy

Metal Sound
Magnet Rise
Zap Cannon
Hidden Power Grass

I love wide lens boosting Zap Cannon to 55% acc, the minimum we need for an "always hit".

I forget what we decided but are we not using the Gen V version of sturdy? (if not magnezone's ability choice doesn't matter in the counter game anyway lol)

 

[Wave⁂]

I think we're waiting for the North American release date. Which is kind of silly, and starts a slippery slope of "well let's wait until Smogon makes tiers" and "well let's wait until Smogon's tiers aren't ****". And then a few years later "well let's wait for the Austalian release date".

Clefable @ Focus Sash
252 HP / 36 SpAtk / 220 SpDef
Cute Guard / Calm
Encore
Sing
Focus Blast
Shadow Ball

Outspeed, Sing, 2HKO

 

[asianaussie]

pretty sure gen V still isn't in use

Hitmonchan @ Lum Berry
252 HP/252 Atk/4 Spe
Iron Fist/Adamant
~ Fake Out
~ Close Combat
~ Ice Punch
~ Thunderpunch

Take a hit, Fake Out, CC. Why the hell doesn't Hitmonchan get Foresight if Hitmontop and Hitmonlee do...I mean lee I get, but the other one's a beyblade ffs

 

[Circa]

Arbok @ Leftovers
Intimidate / Adamant
252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Spe
- Gunk Shot
- Earthquake
- Crunch
- Seed Bomb

2HKO.

 

[kirbyraeg]

Registeel @ Leftovers
252 HP/120 Def/136 SpDef
Careful / Clear Body

Curse
Iron Head
Rest
Sleep Talk

last one didn't work, so here.

 

[Blissard]

Infernape @ Life Orb
4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
Adamant/Blaze

Taunt
Swords Dance
Flare Blitz
Close Combat

 

[Wave⁂]

Moltres @ Focus Sash
4 HP / 252 SpAtk / 252 Speed / Modest
Fire Blast / Air Slash / HP Grass / Hyper Beam

+2 anything does 98% or something

 

[Blissard]

Probopass (lol) @ Leftovers
252 HP / 96 Atk / 156 SpDef
Magnet Pull / Careful

Rest
Sleep Talk
Stone Edge
Toxic

I'm not entirely sure if this works, lol. And whoa you're good, it was ~95%.

 

[asianaussie]

Magneton @ Salac Berry
252 HP/252 SpA/4 Spe
Magnet Pull/Modest
~ Thunderbolt
~ Metal Sound
~ Substitute
~ HP Ice

hur hur same abilities, stone edge is like 15% damage :3

also lol you can't switch looks like the counter game is now over theorymon sure is cool right

 

[kirbyraeg]

the probopass doesn't work, lol, it gets 3hko'ed by fire blast no matter how much spdef it has

also

Slowking @ Leftovers
252 HP/176 SpAtk/80 SpDef
Modest / Own Tempo

Slack Off
Calm Mind
Surf
Psychic

It survives 2 hidden powers at +0 as it calm minds, survives the 3rd hidden power at +1 spdef and slacks off, then gradually ko's with surf.

 

[asianaussie]

Shiftry @ Expert Belt
252 HP/252 SpA/4 Spe
Early Bird/Adamant
~ Swords Dance
~ Seed Bomb
~ Sucker Punch
~ Low Kick

Two Seed Bombs or SD Seed Bomb, you can't finish me in two turns even with +1 Surf. Sucker Punch is the same power as Seed Bomb if it matters.

 

[Circa]

Vespiquen @ Leftovers
Pressure / Impish
252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
- Attack Order
- Roost
- Toxic
- Defend Order

+2 Sucker Punch does less than 50%, and I OHKO.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Registeel @ Leftovers
Clear Body / Impish
252 HP / 128 Def / 128 Sp Def
~ Toxic
~ Seismic Toss
~ Iron Defense
~ Amnesia

lol.

 

[kirbyraeg]

Muk @ Leftovers
252 HP/252 Atk/4 Def
Adamant / Sticky Hold

Curse
Rest
Gunk Shot
Focus Punch

Stall you out of seismic toss PP, focus punch you when you're out.

 

[Circa]

Venomoth @ Life Orb
Tinted Lens / Modest
4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spe
- Bug Buzz
- Psychic
- Sleep Powder
- Gust

Don't even think about using Fly.

 

[kirbyraeg]

I was about to say "that gets ko'ed by gunk shot"

but then I found out that Poison stopped being super effective against bug after the first generation

so strange, why would they bother changing that? XD

 

[Circa]

I was about to say "that gets ko'ed by gunk shot"

but then I found out that Poison stopped being super effective against bug after the first generation

so strange, why would they bother changing that? XD

They were probably making the new type chart and just completely forgot about that matchup in the original games or something. Either that or they were just too lazy to put an extra mark on the chart signifying the Poison was still super-effective vs Bug.

Apart from that I got nothin'.

 

[xLeafybug =D]

Bug is already weak to basically everything, a weakness to Poison would basically be insult to injury.

 

[mood4food77]

wouldn't probopass work against moltres if it rests turn 2 and then gets 2 stone edges through sleep talk?

 

[Circa]

wouldn't probopass work against moltres if it rests turn 2 and then gets 2 stone edges through sleep talk?

Read Rule 6, and then reconsider what you just said.

 

[kirbyraeg]

Scyther @ Lum Berry
252Atk/252 Spe/4 Def
Jolly / Technician

Swords Dance
Aerial Ace
Brick Break
Bug Bite

This should work.

 

[Wave⁂]

Steelix @ Leftovers
252 HP / 252 SpDef / 4 Def / Impish
Stone Edge
Earthquake
Rest
Sleep Talk

+2 stuff 2HKOs

 

[kirbyraeg]

Torterra @ Life Orb
252 Atk/252 Spe/4 Def
Adamant/Overgrow

Wood Hammer
Earthquake
Stone Edge
Rock Polish

 

[Circa]

Meganium @ Life Orb
Overgrow / Modest
252 HP / 252 SAtk / 4 Spe
- Energy Ball
- HP Ice
- Counter
- Leech Seed

Offensive Meganium wut.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Houndoom @ Leftovers
Flash Fire / Modest
4 HP / 252 Sp Atk / 252 Spd
~ Nasty Plot
~ Fire Blast
~ Dark Pulse
~ Hyper Beam

 

[kirbyraeg]

Blastoise @ Focus Sash
252 HP/252 SpAtk/4 Spe
Quiet (0 Spe) / Torrent

Counter
Mirror Coat
Refresh
Hydro Pump

I can't believe I'm doing this.

also reminding myself to not be ********.

 

[Blissard]

You can't use focus sash if it's needed to counter/mirror coat...

Edit: But anyway...

Ludicolo @ Leftovers
252 HP / 196 SpD / 60 Spe
Bold / Swift Swim

Leech Seed
Substitute
Protect
Blizzard

 

[Wave⁂]

Well, it's a good thing Blastoise doesn't need it.

Thanks for reminding us, though.

 

[kirbyraeg]

Clefable @ Life Orb
252 HP/252 Atk/4 SpDef
Adamant / Magic Guard

Softboiled
Cosmic Power
Belly Drum
Meteor Mash

Easymode stat up.

 

[Blissard]

Espeon @ Focus Sash
252 HP / 96 Def / 160 Spe
Bold / Synchronize

Skill Swap
Toxic
Protect
Detect

Lol at my moveset, but meteor mash does 43.7% max. Swap abilities, toxic (yay, we both get poisoned, but I have magic guard now!), stall.


Edit: Espeon will come another day.

 

[kirbyraeg]

What do you do if I Belly Drum on the switch?

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Ursaring @ Life Orb
Guts / Adamant
252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def
~ Swords Dance
~ Return
~ Crunch
~ Fire Punch

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