The Burning Digimon Dinosaur - Agumon for Smash - Digimon Survive 2020

[Graizen]

The thing with Digivolution as a mechanic is that... well... it would seem similar to Persona.
Joker took the whole temporary buff stats. It could be differentiated from Agumon, sure, but to me, Joker basically showed Agumon will not be in this DLC pass.

Im sorry, deleted the comment.

 

[fogbadge]

He got those abilities from the anime first. That's the facts.

Jigglypuff being a clone isn't the sole reason.

no lucario was made for the games he appearance in the anime was a teaser for the future gen 4, everything about lucario (bar the speaking) comes from the games thats how it always worked

and sakurai said that jiggly got in because it was easy to turn kirby into her

 

[Masonomace]

Considering they'd count as a playable character, I could see only game versions of Tamers showing up, but which ones did that as a partner to Agumon anyway? Didn't all of them debut in the anime/manga? I'm not sure if there's more generic Tamer designs in the same way. Or a tamer that fits well enough from the games. Pokemon Trainer being based upon Red at least worked, especially since the team matched Red or Ash's easily, the two most known versions of the "first Pokemon Trainer" major character(to clarify, many don't know who Red is, thinking he's Ash. It's why using a generic Trainer works well for fans, since it allows everyone to see who they want to see, but also act like they're the trainer with their own name. Brawl had a pretty well updated name system for controls/etc. too).

Yeah, that does boil down to who their choice would be from all the forms of media Digimon comes from. Between the few tamers that have had Agumon from the anime I recall, are Tai from Adventure & Marcus from Data Squad. The one from the games I recall is Mameo from Digimon World 1 & Next Order.

Other than those tamers?... Yeah they just use a default tamer for the partner. Like say, DMO (Digmon Masters Online), that game to my memory had generic tamers you could choose to be, or original tamers / DigiDestined from the anime.

 

[fogbadge]

The thing with Digivolution as a mechanic is that... well... it would seem similar to Persona.
Joker took the whole temporary buff stats. It could be differentiated from Agumon, sure, but to me, Joker basically showed Agumon will not be in this DLC pass.

by that logic joker cant be in cause its similar to clouds limit break

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

no lucario was made for the games he appearance in the anime was a teaser for the future gen 4, everything about lucario (bar the speaking) comes from the games thats how it always worked

and sakurai said that jiggly got in because it was easy to turn kirby into her

And because of her popularity in Japan due to the anime. That's part of it too.

Lucario was focused on his anime portrayal, not his game portrayal. That's not "how it always worked" whatsoever. He had almost nothing that started from the games. Aura Sphere also debuted in the anime too, for that matter. You're forgetting that he wasn't based simply upon the anime alone, but his specific movie, which came before the games. It's a "teaser of the games" by all means, but that doesn't make it any less the debut of his abilities. So yes, his abilities are an anime debut no matter how you slice it. You're not making sense at this point anyway. His ability cannot have come from the games if they came from the anime to begin with. Many of them were created to be integrated into the games(bar the usage of aura, which has no real use in the games, Smash aside), but that doesn't change what the debut was.

Yeah, that does boil down to who their choice would be from all the forms of media Digimon comes from. Between the few tamers that have had Agumon from the anime I recall, are Tai from Adventure & Marcus from Data Squad. The one from the games I recall is Mameo from Digimon World 1 & Next Order.

Other than those tamers?... Yeah they just use a default tamer for the partner. Like say, DMO (Digmon Masters Online), that game to my memory had generic tamers you could choose to be, or original tamers / DigiDestined from the anime.

DMO and Mameo sound good. I don't remember if they were similar to the Tamers design(with the goggles) in the anime, which are similar designs. Not unlike how each Link, despite a different person, has similar designs.

 

[Graizen]

Im sorry. I was just tired.

"It's not for Agumon , thats Erdrick"
"It's not Agumon, thats for Joker now"

What you want me to do? Stop supporting him?

Too much people on this topic.

 

[Prince Koopa Jr]

Yep- it's also why we have some of the pokeball versions that we have.
Thunder from Pikachu seems to be from the anime.
Goldeen seems to be as well, though I think it was stated as being something else.

Either way- Agumon would likely have something to do with the anime as well.

Could definitely see his moveset drawing inspiration from the anime

 

[Prince Koopa Jr]

Yep- it's also why we have some of the pokeball versions that we have.
Thunder from Pikachu seems to be from the anime.
Goldeen seems to be as well, though I think it was stated as being something else.

Either way- Agumon would likely have something to do with the anime as well.

Could see his moveset drawing some inspiration from the anime

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Im sorry. I was just tired.

"It's not for Agumon , thats Erdrick"
"It's not Agumon, thats for Joker now"

What you want me to do? Stop supporting him?

Too much people on this topic.

Look, nobody knows for sure it's Erdrick except possibly leakers who saw him in action.

Anybody saying Agumon is impossible to be Brave is being silly. There's just more evidence leading towards Erdrick than Agumon, nothing more.

Either way, don't worry about it. Don't even enter the conversation, honestly.

 

[fogbadge]

And because of her popularity in Japan due to the anime. That's part of it too.

Lucario was focused on his anime portrayal, not his game portrayal. That's not "how it always worked" whatsoever. He had almost nothing that started from the games. Aura Sphere also debuted in the anime too, for that matter. You're forgetting that he wasn't based simply upon the anime alone, but his specific movie, which came before the games. It's a "teaser of the games" by all means, but that doesn't make it any less the debut of his abilities. So yes, his abilities are an anime debut no matter how you slice it. You're not making sense at this point anyway. His ability cannot have come from the games if they came from the anime to begin with. Many of them were created to be integrated into the games(bar the usage of aura, which has no real use in the games, Smash aside), but that doesn't change what the debut was.

im not disputing that they appeared in the anime first but that doesnt negate the fact that he was made for the games, the people who make pokemon and come up with all the things they do are the people who work on the games not the people who write the anime

Im sorry. I was just tired.

"It's not for Agumon , thats Erdrick"
"It's not Agumon, thats for Joker now"

What you want me to do? Stop supporting him?

i want you to keep on keeping on and if people think he cant get in because something hed theoretically do is similar to another character theyre fooling themselves otherwise we wouldnt have seven echoes

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

im not disputing that they appeared in the anime first but that doesnt negate the fact that he was made for the games, the people who make pokemon and come up with all the things they do are the people who work on the games not the people who write the anime

It doesn't matter whatsoever that that is a thing. He was designed in Smash based upon off his anime portrayal, not his game portrayal. Your point doesn't remotely matter in that regard. He was chosen for Smash due to being a heavily promoted character, especially in the anime, a very important thing for Sakurai to look at. It's actually since 4 he looked less at the anime(to some degree, though it still draws heavy influence regardless in many ways). Incineroar has literally zero ties to the anime in any way, one of the few at best. Only Squirtle and Ivysaur can also say that, while the rest definitely have anime influence.

Your theory doesn't explain why he's still based upon his anime portrayal anyway. To be honest, it feels like you're finding excuses to dismiss the anime's influence instead of just accepting it plays a heavy role in the Pokemon characters' in Smash itself. I don't know why you keep doing so, but I've noticed some silly hatred of anime usage. Anime heavily gets used if it's an important piece of a franchise. Sakurai knows that. So he uses its as an influence for both moveset designs and choosing some characters. It's not an issue. And will continue to happen, as the anime is a major piece of Pokemon history and influence among the world.

 

[Graizen]

Digimon have a multiverse, and the games and anime don't aways happen in the same universe.
I don't know for the Tamagotchi side but, maybe they will just use "Digimon World 1" things for Smash, becouse that game is just like a Tamagotchi.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Digimon have a multiverse, and the games and anime don't aways happen in the same universe.
I don't know for the Tamagotchi side but, maybe they will just use "Digimon World 1" things for Smash, becouse that game is just like a Tamagotchi.

That could work. It's odd how the games and anime are only directly connected by one game(the one with Milleniumon), which makes the canon kind of weird, as the other games don't much matter to Ryo's game itself. One of the Wonderswan ones. Digimon canon is weird.

 

[Graizen]

That could work. It's odd how the games and anime are only directly connected by one game(the one with Milleniumon), which makes the canon kind of weird, as the other games don't much matter to Ryo's game itself. One of the Wonderswan ones. Digimon canon is weird.

The essence of Digimon is in transformation, and this applies even in games and in Animes and Manga, differences are always created!
Thanks to this we have several different universes with different worlds, but everything is canonical for the story.
Animes, Movies, Mangas, Games, everything can be considered canonical, because there is no "original story" from where this information was based.
So games can also be considered canonical because they have completely original stories most of the time.

 

[fogbadge]

It doesn't matter whatsoever that that is a thing. He was designed in Smash based upon off his anime portrayal, not his game portrayal. Your point doesn't remotely matter in that regard. He was chosen for Smash due to being a heavily promoted character, especially in the anime, a very important thing for Sakurai to look at. It's actually since 4 he looked less at the anime(to some degree, though it still draws heavy influence regardless in many ways). Incineroar has literally zero ties to the anime in any way, one of the few at best. Only Squirtle and Ivysaur can also say that, while the rest definitely have anime influence.

Your theory doesn't explain why he's still based upon his anime portrayal anyway. To be honest, it feels like you're finding excuses to dismiss the anime's influence instead of just accepting it plays a heavy role in the Pokemon characters' in Smash itself. I don't know why you keep doing so, but I've noticed some silly hatred of anime usage. Anime heavily gets used if it's an important piece of a franchise. Sakurai knows that. So he uses its as an influence for both moveset designs and choosing some characters. It's not an issue. And will continue to happen, as the anime is a major piece of Pokemon history and influence among the world.

im not saying there zero anime influence im saying everything in the anime can be traced back to the games most of the stuff that was unique isnt in smash lucarios aura and moves can be traced to the anime and i turn the games his ability to speak comes from that one movie, him getting stronger the more damage he takes is not something shown in either i dont hate the anime i dont the deny that there are some traces of it in smash im pointing out that alot of the things you seem to think come from the anime are stuff that come from the games all pokemon are said to do things that they arent shown doing in the games but are shown doing in the anime

in just about every aspect of the pokemon franchise pokemon behave the same way they do based on the games if anything pokemon are all based on the way they were design by the people at game freak in the games in the anime in smash, game freak themselves have influence on how pokemon are presented

so yes the anime does have some elements in it but the games or more likely game freaks own rules are what the pokemon are based on

and actually i dont think sakurai ever said why he included lucario, greninja jigglypuff and incineroar sure but i cant find anything that told us why he included him

and in the long run what does it matter how pokemon are represented in smash, sakurai rarely treats two characters the same let alone two franchises the assumption that he would use anything from the anime is based on the fact that he said 3rd parties are gonna be video games but he may yet surprise us all if he does include digimon

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

The essence of Digimon is in transformation, and this applies even in games and in Animes and Manga, differences are always created!
Thanks to this we have several different universes with different worlds, but everything is canonical for the story.
Animes, Movies, Mangas, Games, everything can be considered canonical, because there is no "original story" from where this information was based.
So games can also be considered canonical because they have completely original stories most of the time.

I mean they're not connected. They can have unrelated canons. Like how the Sonic series has a separate game and comic canon.

im not saying there zero anime influence im saying everything in the anime can be traced back to the games most of the stuff that was unique isnt in smash lucarios aura and moves can be traced to the anime and i turn the games his ability to speak comes from that one movie, him getting stronger the more damage he takes is not something shown in either i dont hate the anime i dont the deny that there are some traces of it in smash im pointing out that alot of the things you seem to think come from the anime are stuff that come from the games all pokemon are said to do things that they arent shown doing in the games but are shown doing in the anime

in just about every aspect of the pokemon franchise pokemon behave the same way they do based on the games if anything pokemon are all based on the way they were design by the people at game freak in the games in the anime in smash, game freak themselves have influence on how pokemon are presented

so yes the anime does have some elements in it but the games or more likely game freaks own rules are what the pokemon are based on

and actually i dont think sakurai ever said why he included lucario, greninja jigglypuff and incineroar sure but i cant find anything that told us why he included him

and in the long run what does it matter how pokemon are represented in smash, sakurai rarely treats two characters the same let alone two franchises the assumption that he would use anything from the anime is based on the fact that he said 3rd parties are gonna be video games but he may yet surprise us all if he does include digimon

...You can't really trace most of the anime stuff to the games, no. -_- Not in the way you think it does.

Because they weren't based upon the games to begin with, but unique anime portrayals. That's the point. The anime does its own thing, and doesn't really emulate the games much at all beyond attack names(but not animations). They're just that separated. The anime Pokemon only loosely behave similar to the games, usually in personality. But most of the attacks have anime animations that eventually get transferred over to the games. They can't really be traced back to the games as is. They're just loose ideas of what it could have(as the games didn't have any real animations till Pokemon Stadium, which came out way later after the anime. And many of those animations aren't used in the anime either. One of many examples is what become of PIkachu's Final Smash. It works nothing like it does in the anime or games as it has no strict animation in the games, and is more like a running attack in the anime. It's one ability that definitely wasn't from the anime, unlike Ash-Greninja, Shadow Ball, and Aura Sphere's animations).

The only anime that actually traces properly back to the games is Pokemon Origins. That's literally it. The rest are their own thing entirely. And always will be. That's the choice the staff made, to advertise the Pokemon from the games, but not really what they're like in the games itself. They're significantly different, to the point of using impossible moves on average. Pokemon behave widely differently from the games in the anime to an extreme degree. It actually wasn't till far later than they somewhat resembles their game abilities more, which actually somewhat became a thing once RSE came out, where Abilities were a real thing. That's the first time the games more heavily influenced how the anime worked, instead of it being a completely separated advertisement for the Pokemon(and sometimes items) themselves only. To be honest, I'm questioning if you have heavily seen the anime? Or if you only saw the last few seasons, which was way more accurate to the game portrayals. Cause in reality, the first three seasons of the anime(Kanto, Orange Islands, Johto) were entirely unlike the games. The games actually first took anime notes into account with Pokemon Yellow, and the third versions are loosely akin to Yellow in the way they feel kind of like they're anime-inspired(by making it so you can get both box Legendaries, not unlike how Ash often meets both). The next major one was the Sevii Islands being based somewhat upon the Orange Islands, by not only having Lorelai live there(a strict thing from the anime only), but the ability to find non-Kanto Pokemon there(another factor originating from the anime). The anime was never about portraying the games accurately regardless. That wasn't its purpose. It's more merchandise-driven than anything else, including making it so you can know who the Pokemon are from the games(but not about portraying 'em similar to the games correctly. That's not an important part whatsoever).

 

[MAtgSy]

Wait, Amy didn't debut in Sonic CD?

Nope: https://sonic.fandom.com/wiki/Amy_(Shogakukan) Her origin has become so obscure I think Sega themselves have gotten about it by now.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Nope: https://sonic.fandom.com/wiki/Amy_(Shogakukan) Her origin has become so obscure I think Sega themselves have gotten about it by now.

Huh. Well then.

So we have hard proof that Sakurai doesn't really care much at all for non-playable characters. Now if only people would get this and stop pushing for an irrelevant point.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Look, nobody knows for sure it's Erdrick except possibly leakers who saw him in action.

Anybody saying Agumon is impossible to be Brave is being silly. There's just more evidence leading towards Erdrick than Agumon, nothing more.

Either way, don't worry about it. Don't even enter the conversation, honestly.

Yeah, that's the thing. People act like Erdrick is a lock when it could actually be a Gematsu situation. They treat leakers too much like soothsayers.

 

[MAtgSy]

Huh. Well then.

So we have hard proof that Sakurai doesn't really care much at all for non-playable characters. Now if only people would get this and stop pushing for an irrelevant point.

Not that hard, Sakurai could be just as unaware of her manga origins as the rest of us. But I think Digimon is in a similar boat here: the line between game character status & not-game character status is so blurry with digimon we're just splitting hairs.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Not that hard, Sakurai could be just as unaware of her manga origins as the rest of us. But I think Digimon is in a similar boat here: the line between game character status & not-game character status is so blurry with digimon we're just splitting hairs.

It's probably better to think he simply doesn't care unless it's for a playable character only. Unless the licensing is difficult, which it wouldn't be for any Digimon with a game appearance.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

It's probably better to think he simply doesn't care unless it's for a playable character only. Unless the licensing is difficult, which it wouldn't be for any Digimon with a game appearance.

It helps that in Japan, people have an easier general view of the franchise, whereas in the West, as far as fans are concerned, the games are second to the anime.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

It helps that in Japan, people have an easier general view of the franchise, whereas in the West, as far as fans are concerned, the games are second to the anime.

Can't entirely blame them, to be fair. Getting some Digimon is convoluted as hell and all.

 

[KMDP]

didnt she debut in the anime? i think shes out of the running

Hmmm...

Let me look that up.

Nope, the first appearance of Angewomon was in a game on the Sega Saturn in 1998. Her debut episode in the anime first aired in 1999.

 

[fogbadge]

I mean they're not connected. They can have unrelated canons. Like how the Sonic series has a separate game and comic canon.


...You can't really trace most of the anime stuff to the games, no. -_- Not in the way you think it does.

Because they weren't based upon the games to begin with, but unique anime portrayals. That's the point. The anime does its own thing, and doesn't really emulate the games much at all beyond attack names(but not animations). They're just that separated. The anime Pokemon only loosely behave similar to the games, usually in personality. But most of the attacks have anime animations that eventually get transferred over to the games. They can't really be traced back to the games as is. They're just loose ideas of what it could have(as the games didn't have any real animations till Pokemon Stadium, which came out way later after the anime. And many of those animations aren't used in the anime either. One of many examples is what become of PIkachu's Final Smash. It works nothing like it does in the anime or games as it has no strict animation in the games, and is more like a running attack in the anime. It's one ability that definitely wasn't from the anime, unlike Ash-Greninja, Shadow Ball, and Aura Sphere's animations).

The only anime that actually traces properly back to the games is Pokemon Origins. That's literally it. The rest are their own thing entirely. And always will be. That's the choice the staff made, to advertise the Pokemon from the games, but not really what they're like in the games itself. They're significantly different, to the point of using impossible moves on average. Pokemon behave widely differently from the games in the anime to an extreme degree. It actually wasn't till far later than they somewhat resembles their game abilities more, which actually somewhat became a thing once RSE came out, where Abilities were a real thing. That's the first time the games more heavily influenced how the anime worked, instead of it being a completely separated advertisement for the Pokemon(and sometimes items) themselves only. To be honest, I'm questioning if you have heavily seen the anime? Or if you only saw the last few seasons, which was way more accurate to the game portrayals. Cause in reality, the first three seasons of the anime(Kanto, Orange Islands, Johto) were entirely unlike the games. The games actually first took anime notes into account with Pokemon Yellow, and the third versions are loosely akin to Yellow in the way they feel kind of like they're anime-inspired(by making it so you can get both box Legendaries, not unlike how Ash often meets both). The next major one was the Sevii Islands being based somewhat upon the Orange Islands, by not only having Lorelai live there(a strict thing from the anime only), but the ability to find non-Kanto Pokemon there(another factor originating from the anime). The anime was never about portraying the games accurately regardless. That wasn't its purpose. It's more merchandise-driven than anything else, including making it so you can know who the Pokemon are from the games(but not about portraying 'em similar to the games correctly. That's not an important part whatsoever).

i am done, i tried to meet you half way and end this amicably but you didnt go for it, you are blowing everything i said out of proportion i never said the anime was carbon copy of the games i said that the behaviours and skills of pokemon come from the general concept of the pokemon themselves lucarios fighting style and aura are just general parts of the concept of the pokemon regardless of where the pokemon debuted and of course they dont take personality from the games pokemon dont have set personalities they have one of 25 natures so you cant really match how a pokemon behaves to the games cause thats not how it works, and even then how much personality to they get a chance to show in smash? i never said the anime didnt do their own thing im pointing out that alot of the stuff the pokemon do is from the general conecpt of the pokemon not specifically the anime, lucario being a warrior who uses aura, mewtwo are being a psychic savage, greninja being a ninja, inceneroar being a wrestler are all parts of the general concept of the pokemon which is the basis in the games the anime the mangas smash and everything

but hey youd much rather ignore those points and accuse me of having never watched the anime properly, but i have, and twist the things ive said around to be about things i wasnt referring too, and outright ignoring the points ive made so i am done having this pointless debate with you but you do you cinder but i am not wasting any more time with your increasingly snide attitude i would like to move on and talk about potential digimon spirits battles

 

[HenryWong122]

Hmmm...

Let me look that up.

Nope, the first appearance of Angewomon was in a game on the Sega Saturn in 1998. Her debut episode in the anime first aired in 1999.

I already said that.

 

[HenryWong122]

All of Agumon's Partners: Mook Hackers, Taichi "Tai" Kamiya/Ryo Akiyama, Tsurugi Tatsuno, Shuu/Kizuna, Taiga, Editor-in-chief Iyoku, Nokia Shiramine, Takuto, Fire Powers, Takuma Momozuka and Protagonist (Encounters).
All of Agumon (06)'s Partners: Marcus Damon, Tsurugi Tatsuno, Protagonist (World DS) and Koh when you play as him in Dawn.

 

[Prince Koopa Jr]

All of Agumon's Partners: Mook Hackers, Taichi "Tai" Kamiya/Ryo Akiyama, Tsurugi Tatsuno, Shuu/Kizuna, Taiga, Editor-in-chief Iyoku, Nokia Shiramine, Takuto, Fire Powers, Takuma Momozuka and Protagonist (Encounters).
All of Agumon (06)'s Partners: Marcus Damon, Tsurugi Tatsuno, Protagonist (World DS) and Koh when you play as him in Dawn.
Nice bealzemon pfp

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Prince Koopa Jr I think you forgot where to end your quote. XD

Anyway, there's a lot of neat choices then. Shouldn't be hard to give him a game-related Tamer if they find that route the best way to do it.

 

[Graizen]

Prince Koopa Jr I think you forgot where to end your quote. XD

Anyway, there's a lot of neat choices then. Shouldn't be hard to give him a game-related Tamer if they find that route the best way to do it.

Hey Chinder , did you see the Chrono Trigger post from Sakurai?
You think this means something?

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Hey Chinder , did you see the Chrono Trigger post from Sakurai?
You think this means something?

I did not. Lay it on me~

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Nokia Shiramine

Yes, please! If Survive's protag is too recent, she'd be one of the best other possible options for a Tamer. Also, Suzuhito Yasuda artwork would provide a bit more variety among the animesque characters.

 

[fogbadge]

so what kind of spirit battles so you think wed get? im picturing patamon on kirby, palmon on ivysaur, gatomon on a smaller incineroar, gomamon would make the most sense on squirtle i think, gabumon, i dunno, duck hunt duo? biyomon err falco? tentomon hmm i guess since he and pikachu both use electricity so i guess thatd be closest

 

[Graizen]

I did not. Lay it on me~

This post: https://twitter.com/Sora_Sakurai/status/1120236025823973376

This is a Stage based on Chrono Trigger.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

This post: https://twitter.com/Sora_Sakurai/status/1120236025823973376

This is a Stage based on Chrono Trigger.

I'm not sure what to think about this. I don't even know what's a genuine hint or not in this speculation cycle anymore.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

This post: https://twitter.com/Sora_Sakurai/status/1120236025823973376

This is a Stage based on Chrono Trigger.

Probably just means he likes the game and nothing more. I wouldn't put much thought into it beyond that.

I retrweet or just tweet a lot of stuff I like. Even stuff that has no relation to the games I'm working on.

 

[Prince Koopa Jr]

Probably just means he likes the game and nothing more. I wouldn't put much thought into it beyond that.

I retrweet or just tweet a lot of stuff I like. Even stuff that has no relation to the games I'm working on.

Good stage

 

[Prince Koopa Jr]

I'm not sure what to think about this. I don't even know what's a genuine hint or not in this speculation cycle anymore.

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True, its hard to know whats true and whats not

 

[Graizen]

Probably just means he likes the game and nothing more. I wouldn't put much thought into it beyond that.

I retrweet or just tweet a lot of stuff I like. Even stuff that has no relation to the games I'm working on.

Yeah , but you are not Sakurai the developer of Super Smash Bros Ultimate
A Game that already have Cloud and everyone is speculating about

I believe Sakurai knows about this

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Yeah , but you are not Sakurai the developer of Super Smash Bros Ultimate
A Game that already have Cloud and everyone is speculating about

I believe Sakurai knows about this

Well, of course he knows about the game. That's proven with the tweet. I doubt it means anything beyond that. I mean, it's not "who knows" like with the supposed Golden Sun-related tweet(which probably wasn't GS-related, anyway).