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The Bell Tolls for Prince Sable as an Assist Trophy in SSB4! (Now with Footage of Sable!)

How much do you support Prince Sable?

  • 100%!

    Votes: 42 24.4%
  • Just a little!

    Votes: 42 24.4%
  • Who's Prince of Sable?

    Votes: 62 36.0%
  • Neutral..

    Votes: 26 15.1%

  • Total voters
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IronFish

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Well at least he's not just a mere trophy, and he got the assist status, and at least he got in the game at all!. You have my condolences.
 

AustarusIV

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I'm really curious to see how he'll act as an AT in-game.

...Oh yeah, and I'm sorry for your loss BluePikmin11.
 

VGM1

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Sorry for your loss, guys. If nothin' else, it's good that he's getting some kind of spotlight, right?

Hopefully Sable (and Takamru) are the Little Macs of this game and get promoted to playable next time around!
It'd be sick if Sable, Takamaru and Dillon all got promoted next game! (No matter how unlikely it seems anyways...)
 

JabbatheHutt

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My condolences. I am a Funeral Home contrasctor. Our embalming is top notch, and I can do the funeral at an affordable cost.

Keep rocking guys. Sorry for your loss
 

jaytalks

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I wrote this in the Graveyard, and its meant to express my deepest sorrow for all the supporters here:

For Whom the Bell Tolls?
The Frog Prince, the Prince Frog
For the Frog the Bell Tolls.
It does for all retros, staying in their roles,
Until a revival ends their slog.
 
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RhymesWithEmpty

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As a Takamaru supporter, I would like to extend my condolences - the bitter sting of loss is fast approaching us all D:

But hey, being an assist trophy is still a pretty big deal, certainly better than nothing at all! Definitely raises his visibility, too, so at least you all have that! Plus, you get a shiny new 3D model! :D
 
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smashkirby

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Hey guys......So I saw today's pic....BluePikmin11, let me just give you my deepest condolences right now, my friend. I'm so sorry about what happened to Prince Sable.:sadeyes: I have to admit, though, while I did support Prince Sable, I wasn't expecting him too much. But you have to agree, Prince Sable as an AT is a BIG improvement from in SSBB as a sticker. Who knows? Maybe he'll be playable in SSB5!;) Here's hoping to him being an awesome AT! Here's to you, Prince Sable, old buddy!
 

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Another deconfirm! Sorry guys, but at least he showed up! I get the feeling almost everyone will be represented in some way now :)
 

SmilingMad

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Doesn't it say that in the miiverse pic?
The miiverse picture (at least, the second one) described what he did, and was worded in a way to suggest that he is an AT. I'm pretty sure the tweet is a full deconfirmation of his playability.
 

Bingoshi

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Aw...man... I thought of BluePikmin11 as soon as I saw the pic of the day. Sorry, man... I know how it feels though, I really wanted Takamaru playable. It's cool to see the prince at all, but it's such a shame that a character that could have been so interesting didn't make it as playable. It seems Sakurai is disconfirming characters on Mondays. I fear that Lip is next.
 

Sailor Waddle Dee

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Sorry for your loss Sable Supporters, I share your pain (after losing Takamaru last week)
but take this as a small victory, the frog prince will now have far more visibility than before and could find new fans because of it, in fact, after seeing the pics of him as an AT I now am interested in playing his game :)
it's getting scary how fast characters are getting deconfirmed now, feels like anyone could be next D:
 

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TBH I didn't expect any representation, so I class this as a huge win for him.

Condolences to those who wanted him playable, I hope most of you feel the same way I do about this.
 

Speculator

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This is everything we could have realistically hoped for with the transformation mechanic gone. A single-form character is not the way to represent Prince of Sable and if that's the only option, then an assist trophy is the next best thing. And hey, it's a huge improvement for FtFtBT representation over Brawl's stupid sticker. A series so small and so obscure wouldn't normally get this kind of treatment so it's obvious Sakurai has some kind of affection for it. Here's hoping we get a cool arrangement of the main theme, too.
 
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I have no idea who this character is, but I'm sorry for his fans. :(

At least he's an assist right?
 

Sabrewulf238

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Sorry Prince Sable fans.

Honestly I didn't even expect an assist trophy but I clearly underestimated Prince Sable and his game.
 

Toastie

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Guys we shouldn't treat this as a funeral, this is a great success! He was pretty unlikely anyway, especially after transformation characters were deconfirmed, so to have him go from sticker to assist trophy is fantastic! Here's hoping he makes it into the next Smash as playable.
 

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Well first off, sorry that he's not playable and second off, congratulations on him getting a HD Appearance!
 

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First Appearance: For the Frog the Bell Tolls on the Gameboy in 1992 (Japan only)

Prince Sable is the main protagonist of the game For the Frog the Bell Tolls, who is the prince of the Sabure Kingdom. As he travelled in his quest defeat the powerful King Delarin, he gains powers of transforming into a frog and a snake.





When he transforms into a frog, his jumping ability rises up to a high scale, but his strength becomes to an all-time low. When in Snake form, he damages opponents to their death and has increased speed, but his jumping ability falls off the charts into 1! And as you would expect for a human form, it's the balance between the two form. The transforming aspect can be make him interesting character to play as. If Sakurai were to pick a character from the Gameboy era, Prince Sable would be great choice!

Is he good enough to have a spot in the Smash Bros. Cast? Anyone who played it would remember its satirical and light-hearted moments the game had, exploring the land in a Zelda-esque fashion. In fact, there were some characters from the game that made appearances in the Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening and Wario Land 4.

For those people who are curious to try the game now, here is the link to it.
http://www.retrouprising.com/game-menu/game/11817/

More information about the game:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaeru_no_Tame_ni_Kane_wa_Naru

More about Prince Sable:

http://nintendo.wikia.com/wiki/Prince_of_Sablé

The actual website for the For the Frog The Bell Tolls Website:
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n02/dmg/okj/

Gameboy News For the Frog The Bell Tolls:

Also Fanstuff and ETC. :
An alt. costume for Marth disguised as Prince Sable.
http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=30639

Guid Map to Playing Kaeru No Tame Ni Wa Naru:
http://i-njoy.net/kkn_11.html

A fan mentioned Prince Richard for Smash, not too sure if Sakurai wanted to put it up there because it's good.
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n01/n64/software/nus_p_nalj/smash/PostReturn024.html

For the Frog the Bell Tolls Commercial:
http://nukenai.tumblr.com/post/51741666770/hey-lets-talk-about-the-ffbt-commercial

For the Frog the Bell Tolls in 9th Place in Japanese eShop sales as of 2012 overall.

For the Frog The Bell Tolls Special Gameboy News:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoHDq_CtkI8

Top 10 Frogs to be in Smash Bros. 4:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/top10/835.html

Old Brawl thread for Sable and Richard.
http://smashboards.com/threads/new-characters-sablé-and-richard-tag-team.74052/

Possible mention of Sable being preferred more by Sakurai than a tag-team:
http://smashboards.com/threads/puzz...t-theories-added.324269/page-12#post-16324621

Music Video:


Music of For the Frog The Bell Tolls:

Kaeru Chan Super Star Album:
http://sbfr.info/discography/sseb-0021/index.html



















Sabure Prince drawing by Hotfeet44


A Moveset by Speculator


My Moveset:
*This moveset is a combined aspect of using both forms for special and normal attacks*

Special Moves:

Neutral-B:
Dust!: Prince Sable swivels the ground to create dust that stuns opponent for a moment to give priority to do a quick attack. It only last as much as the time Mewtwo used Disable on an opponent.

Side-B:
Whip: Prince Sable turns into a Snake to whip out the opponents straightforward. However, this move does not damage the opponent, but rather make a good knockback far enough to escape from a situation.

Up-B:
Frog Jump: Prince Sable turns into a Frog to jump very high but in a straight vertical way (Just like Luigi’s Super Jump, only higher and a small delay occurs before using). This move does not make knockback, nor does damage anyone. It’s a risky move to use.

Down-B:
En Garde!: Much like Marth’s counter, only it’s a multihitting attack by jamming the special butting to attack more. This move can only be used when Sable is near the opponent(Not Jigglypuff correctly using Rest near, just a little far than that). Oddly enough, this does not create knockback, but it’s worth pummeling out lots of damage out of En Garde!


Smash Attacks:

Side-Smash: Prince Sable turns into Snake form to bite the opponent in great knockback. This attack also stuns the opponent for a short period of time (Referencing how Sable could turn enemies into blocks using Bite) before the knockback begins if you wanna pummel some more.

Up-Smash: Prince Sable turns into Snake form to jump and bite the opponent in the air.
It’s a straight-forward move but powerful in damage and knockback.

Down-Smash: Prince Sable Turns into Snake form to Whip around a circle of knockback. Although not as powerful as the smash attacks, it creates good all around hitbox around Sable for space.

Aerial Attacks:

Neutral-Air: Prince Sable turns into Frog form to scramble attack (much like Luigi’s dash attack) with good knockback at the end. This is good to annoy the opponent, as it fastest to use.

Forward-Air: Prince Sable swings his sword in the air twice for good knockback. Much like Metaknight’s F-Air, only a little slower and better in knockback.

Back-Air: Prince Sable turns into Frog Mode to kick backwards for great knockback. Like Mario’s Back-air, only better in damage and knockback.

Up-Air: Prince Sable turns into Frog Mode to headbutt in the air for good knockback.

D-Air: Prince Sable turns into Frog Mode to kick downwards and (guarenteed) meteor smash. Although it does not do damage and it only can be used when below the opponent, when using D-air when the opponent is on the ground, it pounces the opponent to lie on the ground. This move has very-fast start-up to make up for it.


Standard Attacks:

Neutral Attack: Prince Sable attacks with his Golden Sword to combo into a finishing (Link-Melee-esque) multi-hit jab attack.

Side Attack: Prince Sable swings his sword upward to create knockback vertically. Pretty good move to use if you want be tricky.

Dash Attack: Prince Sable Stabs the opponent similar to one in the final battle. It has great straight forward knockback with great damage.

Down Attack: Prince Sable turns into Snake form to whip out the opponent with slightly good knockback and damage.

Up Attack: Prince Sable turns into Frog Form to spin attack in the (like Olimar’s up attack).

Grabs:
(Prince Sable turns into frog form to capture the opponent with the tongue)

Forward Throw: Prince Sable (In frog form) swings the opponent out in the air forward.

Back Throw: Prince Sable (In frog form) swings the opponent out in the air backwards.

Down Throw: Prince Sable (In frog form) spits out the opponent to the ground to lie the opponent down with good damage.

Up Throw: Prince Sable (In frog form) spits out the opponent in the air and turns into human form to swing his sword in the air for good knockback and damage.


Taunts:

Up Taunt: Prince Sable shows the bag of money (he possibly received back in the end of the game) and drops it (Saying,”Here’s your bet!” in Japanese). The money bag serves as a blocking Sandbag that resists only a few attacks for a short while.

Down Taunt: Prince Sable turns into Snake form and hisses at the opponent.

Side Taunt: Prince Sable turns into Frog form to capture a fly (from the game) with his tongue.


Victory Themes:


Victory 1: Prince Sable turns into frog form and flip bounces around.

Victory 2: Prince Sable plays with his sword and says,”You definitely need some courage” in Japanese.

Victory 3: Prince Sable turns into Snake form and slithers in circles.

Final Smash: Prince Sable creates balls of fire (platform ranged), that if the opponent is surrounded, will be attacked by Sable with the stabs from the final battle, with a powerful stab as the finishing move.


Music Options

The Prince's Adventure Orchestra:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CW8Q4ERR8AA

Sabure Prince Brawl Sticker:


Old Moveset and Music and Stage Options by Aether Ech0s

Kaeru no Tame Na Wa Naru Poster



Moveset Options

This is my personal moveset, although it could go several ways. Alternatively, instead of having separate forms, he could transform only to perform his special moves then return to human form.

-Stats-
(Human Form)
Size: Small
Weight and Knockback Resilience: Light
Jump height: Moderately High
Movement Speed: Moderately Fast
Fall Speed: Moderately Slow

(Frog Form)
Size: Small
Weight and Knockback Resilience: Very Light
Jump Height: High
Movement Speed: Slow
Fall Speed: Slow

(Snake Form)
Size: Smallest
Weight and Knockback Resilience: Light
Jump height: Lowest
Movement Speed: Fast
Fall Speed: Moderately Fast


Normal Moves
No point in going into detail over the normal moves because its all just generic sword slashes or punches anyway. Although the snake form would have to result to tailwhips and bites. Bare in mind that the Frog form has the lowest damage output, the Snake form has the highest and the Human form is a balance between the two.


Special Moves
B - En Garde! - The Prince engages a nearby opponent in battle. Both are surrounded by a puff of dust as the battle ensues out of sight. Both the Prince and the opponent take an amount of damage and the opponent is then knocked away. Pressing A or B repeatedly can lightly increase the damage done, although the opponent can do the same. This is the Prince's most valuable move but it is risky to overuse it as you also receive damage in the process. If you use this move while in Frog or Snake form the Prince will instantly transform back into Human form and use the move.

Side B - Leap Frog - The Prince transforms into his Frog form and hops forward several times, doing more damage and jumping higher with each hop. If the Prince lands on top of an opponent during this move he stomps hard, doing moderate damage while knocking them downwards. If used in the air, the Prince leaps forward once then goes into freefall. If you use this move while in Human or Snake form the Prince will instantly transform into Frog form and use the move.

Down B - Snake Bite - The Prince transforms into his Snake form and bites with poisontipped fangs. Any opponent hit gains a poisoned status and takes damage over time for a few seconds. If you use this move while in Frog or Human form the Prince will instantly transform into Snake form and use the move.

Up B - High Jump/Warp Door - The Prince squats, then leaps upwards. Jump height and damage done to opponent is based on which form the Prince is in. If used in the air, the Prince places the Warp Door and goes inside. A moment later it appears a distance away and he exits. If used near a platform it automatically appears on the edge of the ledge and he exits. The Prince goes into freefall state after using this move.

Final Smash - The Spring Bell tolls - The Prince pulls out a small bell and rings it. Suddenly, hundreds of frogs leap onto the stage and bounce around in a frenzy, hitting all opponents.





Stage Options

Spoiler: Eclair Palace


Music Options
The Prince's Adventure (Overworld Theme):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJJLdMwJlKc&feature=related
Theme of King Delarin (Final Boss Theme):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlIZZhaVdMo
Other than those two, For the Frog the Bell Tolls has has several other background themes that would do well with a modern remix or orchestration.


Fake Dojo Pictures:



What people think of Prince Sable's chances:
http://challengerapproaching.tumblr.com/post/54839452032/for-what-the-bell-tolls


Alt. Colors by Venus of the Desert Bloom:


Prince Sable Roster Icons:


Prince Sable's Froakian Army (Supporters):
1. BluePikmin11
2. Young Horsetail
3. AetherEch0s
4. R.O.B.
5. Holder of the Heel
6. Zzuxon
7. MasterMushroom
8. SmashChu
9. sheik93
10. Frostwraith
11. Speculator
12. xpnc
13. FalKoopa
14. APC99
15. grizby2
16. SuperBrawler
17. ThatWasPeachy
18. Keybladeguy
19. Cpt.
20. SchAlternate
21. Lolo Lolo
22. MasteRMerF
23. S1LV3RH00D
24. CardiganBoy
25. Thelastreplicant
26. GM_3826
I'm truly sorry :(
 

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Don't get me wrong, the prince was my 2nd most wanted character, but today's PotD made me really excited for a lot of reasons!
1) After some years of no cameo appearances at all (he didn't even appear in Captain Rainbow!), the Prince of Sablé is back.
2) Sakurai didn't chose Prince Richard over him. That would be weird and kinda stupid, but it could happen.
3) We are getting good translations this time. His sticker was called "Sabure Prince" in Brawl.
After what happenned with Takamaru, I don't think the prince was disconfirmed as a playable character. He was confirmed as an Assist Trophy, and got a 3D model for the first time.
With Smash, he surely will get a lot of new fans. I mean, look at him. He's most adorable AT yet. Now Takamaru have a cool character to make him company.

Also, it's kinda funny how people are acting as if @ BluePikmin11 BluePikmin11 himself was disconfirmed. It shows how much he supported the little fighter.

No, it only implies he is. And with some people misinterpreting him as playable that is why he tweeted he is only an Assist Trophy.
Silly Sakurai, you forgot to say "FYI".
 

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I think the majority of us upon seeing this instantly felt for Blue.

But hey; I didn't actually expect him to even get an Assist, and it sounds pretty cool. If Takamaru's one aids him, maybe Sable's will get a proper international VC release?
 

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Whilst it is a shame to see that Price Sable is not playable, at least he is referenced in the game.

Don't get me wrong, the prince was my 2nd most wanted character, but today's PotD made me really excited for a lot of reasons!
1) After some years of no cameo appearances at all (he didn't even appear in Captain Rainbow!), the Prince of Sablé is back.
2) Sakurai didn't chose Prince Richard over him. That would be weird and kinda stupid, but it could happen.
3) We are getting good translations this time. His sticker was called "Sabure Prince" in Brawl.
After what happenned with Takamaru, I don't think the prince was disconfirmed as a playable character. He was confirmed as an Assist Trophy, and got a 3D model for the first time.
With Smash, he surely will get a lot of new fans. I mean, look at him. He's most adorable AT yet. Now Takamaru have a cool character to make him company.
I pretty much agree with this, especially the bolded.
 

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Congrats on the assist trophy! It's a huge step up from the sticker in Brawl.
 

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I wasn't a supporter, but I'm happy to see Sakurai representing this character in the game, I didn't except it!
It's such an obscure japan-only game... Finally Sakurai started to give some consideration to the minor series? Anyway it's not playable, but it's still a success for such an obscure character like this.
 

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I'm happy he at least went from sticker to assist trophy and trophy. Plus, thats a nice 3d model he has too.
(Also, what stage is that PotD on?)
 
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