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The Bell Tolls for Prince Sable as an Assist Trophy in SSB4! (Now with Footage of Sable!)

How much do you support Prince Sable?

  • 100%!

    Votes: 42 24.4%
  • Just a little!

    Votes: 42 24.4%
  • Who's Prince of Sable?

    Votes: 62 36.0%
  • Neutral..

    Votes: 26 15.1%

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I must say, even though I never really knew who Sable was, his AT looks awesome. I'm gonna hope for a Lil Mac treatment!
 

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HOLY MACRO! THAT IS SO AWESOME, THEY HAVE DONE HIM RIGHT!
There's so much dedication to it.
Yes, they really, did...

They even added the jingle I requested from the Overworld BGM (Prince's Adventure) as his signature jingle, I'm like too happy. Perfect Assist is perfect. Not a joke like Starfy...
 

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Got your back still!





He's AWESOME. He's gonna be really helpful to score KOs. Don't mess with this little prince.

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Cool! So he transform into BOTH of his forms before disappearing. Ithought it was one form each time you summonned him.

Btw, @ ~ Valkyrie ~ ~ Valkyrie ~ , any chance there's footage of other ATs? (if you know what I mean)

EDIT: OMG, that jingle! I wasn't watching with my headphones, but that just fits him!
 
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Cool! So he transform into BOTH of his forms before disappearing. Ithought it was one form each time you summonned him.

Btw, @ ~ Valkyrie ~ ~ Valkyrie ~ , any chance there's footage of other ATs? (if you know what I mean)

EDIT: OMG, that jingle! I wasn't watching with my headphones, but that just fits him!
This is the only one I remember seeing. I think I saw one with Hammer Bro in Magicant (He even was side to side with Flying Man. Damn, whoever thought we'd see a day where that would be possible)
 

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Lyn and Knuckle Joe had their own Japanese voices?
Yes? I have the files for those from Brawl too if ya wanna hear them. I think I downloaded them long times ago.

Lyn was more fitting young woman voice. Joe sounded like his anime-counterpart. Both really good.
 

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Yes? I have the files for those from Brawl too if ya wanna hear them. I think I downloaded them long times ago.

Lyn was more fitting young woman voice. Joe sounded like his anime-counterpart. Both really good.
Ah ok, I see, considering he is a Japan exclusive character, I think it's much better to keep the Japanese voice than giving him an English one.
 

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Ah ok, I see, considering he is a Japan exclusive character, I think it's much better to keep the Japanese voice than giving him an English one.
Hope for so, hahah- I sadly don't see that happening though. I guess they want the audience to understand what he says. Better just hope he gets a fitting voice for english speech.

EDIT: I think I should have mentioned that I made these gifs! Took a while to learn but I needed to capture this moment.
 
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I'm personally gonna smile every time I end up getting Sable Prince out of an assist trophy. Shame we probably won't get any music. Oh well.

It's been a fun ride.
 

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Interesting Prince Sable actually looks really cool as an assist trophy. He was deconfirmed shortly after I started visiting the boards so I never really had an interest in him, but you know what seeing that assist trophy does make me wish he was his own character as well. Damn it, twice now I've seen the supposed requested retro character's assist trophy only to THEN be excited for potential. I will say that much assist trophy is really the best we can ask for a lot of characters if they can't be in the game proper, glad you at least got something for all of your support for Prince Sable Bluepikmin!
 

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Toon Link's voice sounds more matured than Sable's.
Ness is 13 from what I heard.
Was an actual age given in any of TLink's games?
I heard that WW Link is 12.
I think Sable was older than that, since he was old enough to
get married.
It's just the chibi art-style that makes everybody look young.
 

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Here's a full soundtrack of the game if you guys want it.
And here's a question for you guys, should this be turned into a general For the Frog the Bell Tolls discussion thread, like how the the Lip thread basically turned into a Panel de Pon Thread?
 
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Here's a full soundtrack of the game if you guys want it.
And here's a question for you guys, should this be turned into a general For the Frog the Bell Tolls discussion thread, like how the the Lip thread basically turned into a Panel de Pon Thread?
Any thread should be saved for future gens! We could use showing this game more to people-
 

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Here's a full soundtrack of the game if you guys want it.
And here's a question for you guys, should this be turned into a general For the Frog the Bell Tolls discussion thread, like how the the Lip thread basically turned into a Panel de Pon Thread?
Go for it, more people need to know about this gem after all. With the English ROM for the game being around, there's much more to talk about.
 

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I think this should be kept here. The thread will be closed, but it will be archived anyway.
The future generations should see that the prince had a support thread for Smash 4.
But this is just my opinion. :V
 

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So the general consensus here is yes right?
I'll go do the new OP later, I'll keep this big OP here incase the first post gets deleted.

Prince of Sable confirmed as an AT for SSB4! Thank you for posting this pic of the day right after your birthday Sakurai, it means so much to me!







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First Appearance: For the Frog the Bell Tolls on the Gameboy in 1992 (Japan only)

Prince Sable is the main protagonist of the game For the Frog the Bell Tolls, who is the prince of the Sabure Kingdom. As he travelled in his quest defeat the powerful King Delarin, he gains powers of transforming into a frog and a snake.





When he transforms into a frog, his jumping ability rises up to a high scale, but his strength becomes to an all-time low. When in Snake form, he damages opponents to their death and has increased speed, but his jumping ability falls off the charts into 1! And as you would expect for a human form, it's the balance between the two form. The transforming aspect can be make him interesting character to play as. If Sakurai were to pick a character from the Gameboy era, Prince Sable would be great choice!

Is he good enough to have a spot in the Smash Bros. Cast? Anyone who played it would remember its satirical and light-hearted moments the game had, exploring the land in a Zelda-esque fashion. In fact, there were some characters from the game that made appearances in the Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening and Wario Land 4.

For those people who are curious to try the game now, here is the link to it.
http://www.retrouprising.com/game-menu/game/11817/

More information about the game:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaeru_no_Tame_ni_Kane_wa_Naru

More about Prince Sable:

http://nintendo.wikia.com/wiki/Prince_of_Sablé

The actual website for the For the Frog The Bell Tolls Website:
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n02/dmg/okj/

Gameboy News For the Frog The Bell Tolls:

Also Fanstuff and ETC. :
An alt. costume for Marth disguised as Prince Sable.
http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=30639

Guid Map to Playing Kaeru No Tame Ni Wa Naru:
http://i-njoy.net/kkn_11.html

A fan mentioned Prince Richard for Smash, not too sure if Sakurai wanted to put it up there because it's good.
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n01/n64/software/nus_p_nalj/smash/PostReturn024.html

For the Frog the Bell Tolls Commercial:
http://nukenai.tumblr.com/post/51741666770/hey-lets-talk-about-the-ffbt-commercial

For the Frog the Bell Tolls in 9th Place in Japanese eShop sales as of 2012 overall.

For the Frog The Bell Tolls Special Gameboy News:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoHDq_CtkI8

Top 10 Frogs to be in Smash Bros. 4:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/top10/835.html

Old Brawl thread for Sable and Richard.
http://smashboards.com/threads/new-characters-sablé-and-richard-tag-team.74052/

Possible mention of Sable being preferred more by Sakurai than a tag-team:
http://smashboards.com/threads/puzz...t-theories-added.324269/page-12#post-16324621

Music Video:


Music of For the Frog The Bell Tolls:

Kaeru Chan Super Star Album:
http://sbfr.info/discography/sseb-0021/index.html





















Sabure Prince drawing by Hotfeet44


A Moveset by Speculator


My Moveset:
*This moveset is a combined aspect of using both forms for special and normal attacks*

Special Moves:

Neutral-B:
Dust!: Prince Sable swivels the ground to create dust that stuns opponent for a moment to give priority to do a quick attack. It only last as much as the time Mewtwo used Disable on an opponent.

Side-B:
Whip: Prince Sable turns into a Snake to whip out the opponents straightforward. However, this move does not damage the opponent, but rather make a good knockback far enough to escape from a situation.

Up-B:
Frog Jump: Prince Sable turns into a Frog to jump very high but in a straight vertical way (Just like Luigi’s Super Jump, only higher and a small delay occurs before using). This move does not make knockback, nor does damage anyone. It’s a risky move to use.

Down-B:
En Garde!: Much like Marth’s counter, only it’s a multihitting attack by jamming the special butting to attack more. This move can only be used when Sable is near the opponent(Not Jigglypuff correctly using Rest near, just a little far than that). Oddly enough, this does not create knockback, but it’s worth pummeling out lots of damage out of En Garde!


Smash Attacks:

Side-Smash: Prince Sable turns into Snake form to bite the opponent in great knockback. This attack also stuns the opponent for a short period of time (Referencing how Sable could turn enemies into blocks using Bite) before the knockback begins if you wanna pummel some more.

Up-Smash: Prince Sable turns into Snake form to jump and bite the opponent in the air.
It’s a straight-forward move but powerful in damage and knockback.

Down-Smash: Prince Sable Turns into Snake form to Whip around a circle of knockback. Although not as powerful as the smash attacks, it creates good all around hitbox around Sable for space.

Aerial Attacks:

Neutral-Air: Prince Sable turns into Frog form to scramble attack (much like Luigi’s dash attack) with good knockback at the end. This is good to annoy the opponent, as it fastest to use.

Forward-Air: Prince Sable swings his sword in the air twice for good knockback. Much like Metaknight’s F-Air, only a little slower and better in knockback.

Back-Air: Prince Sable turns into Frog Mode to kick backwards for great knockback. Like Mario’s Back-air, only better in damage and knockback.

Up-Air: Prince Sable turns into Frog Mode to headbutt in the air for good knockback.

D-Air: Prince Sable turns into Frog Mode to kick downwards and (guarenteed) meteor smash. Although it does not do damage and it only can be used when below the opponent, when using D-air when the opponent is on the ground, it pounces the opponent to lie on the ground. This move has very-fast start-up to make up for it.


Standard Attacks:

Neutral Attack: Prince Sable attacks with his Golden Sword to combo into a finishing (Link-Melee-esque) multi-hit jab attack.

Side Attack: Prince Sable swings his sword upward to create knockback vertically. Pretty good move to use if you want be tricky.

Dash Attack: Prince Sable Stabs the opponent similar to one in the final battle. It has great straight forward knockback with great damage.

Down Attack: Prince Sable turns into Snake form to whip out the opponent with slightly good knockback and damage.

Up Attack: Prince Sable turns into Frog Form to spin attack in the (like Olimar’s up attack).

Grabs:
(Prince Sable turns into frog form to capture the opponent with the tongue)

Forward Throw: Prince Sable (In frog form) swings the opponent out in the air forward.

Back Throw: Prince Sable (In frog form) swings the opponent out in the air backwards.

Down Throw: Prince Sable (In frog form) spits out the opponent to the ground to lie the opponent down with good damage.

Up Throw: Prince Sable (In frog form) spits out the opponent in the air and turns into human form to swing his sword in the air for good knockback and damage.


Taunts:

Up Taunt: Prince Sable shows the bag of money (he possibly received back in the end of the game) and drops it (Saying,”Here’s your bet!” in Japanese). The money bag serves as a blocking Sandbag that resists only a few attacks for a short while.

Down Taunt: Prince Sable turns into Snake form and hisses at the opponent.

Side Taunt: Prince Sable turns into Frog form to capture a fly (from the game) with his tongue.


Victory Themes:


Victory 1: Prince Sable turns into frog form and flip bounces around.

Victory 2: Prince Sable plays with his sword and says,”You definitely need some courage” in Japanese.

Victory 3: Prince Sable turns into Snake form and slithers in circles.

Final Smash: Prince Sable creates balls of fire (platform ranged), that if the opponent is surrounded, will be attacked by Sable with the stabs from the final battle, with a powerful stab as the finishing move.


Music Options

The Prince's Adventure Orchestra:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CW8Q4ERR8AA

Sabure Prince Brawl Sticker:


Old Moveset and Music and Stage Options by Aether Ech0s

Kaeru no Tame Na Wa Naru Poster



Moveset Options

This is my personal moveset, although it could go several ways. Alternatively, instead of having separate forms, he could transform only to perform his special moves then return to human form.

-Stats-
(Human Form)
Size: Small
Weight and Knockback Resilience: Light
Jump height: Moderately High
Movement Speed: Moderately Fast
Fall Speed: Moderately Slow

(Frog Form)
Size: Small
Weight and Knockback Resilience: Very Light
Jump Height: High
Movement Speed: Slow
Fall Speed: Slow

(Snake Form)
Size: Smallest
Weight and Knockback Resilience: Light
Jump height: Lowest
Movement Speed: Fast
Fall Speed: Moderately Fast


Normal Moves
No point in going into detail over the normal moves because its all just generic sword slashes or punches anyway. Although the snake form would have to result to tailwhips and bites. Bare in mind that the Frog form has the lowest damage output, the Snake form has the highest and the Human form is a balance between the two.


Special Moves
B - En Garde! - The Prince engages a nearby opponent in battle. Both are surrounded by a puff of dust as the battle ensues out of sight. Both the Prince and the opponent take an amount of damage and the opponent is then knocked away. Pressing A or B repeatedly can lightly increase the damage done, although the opponent can do the same. This is the Prince's most valuable move but it is risky to overuse it as you also receive damage in the process. If you use this move while in Frog or Snake form the Prince will instantly transform back into Human form and use the move.

Side B - Leap Frog - The Prince transforms into his Frog form and hops forward several times, doing more damage and jumping higher with each hop. If the Prince lands on top of an opponent during this move he stomps hard, doing moderate damage while knocking them downwards. If used in the air, the Prince leaps forward once then goes into freefall. If you use this move while in Human or Snake form the Prince will instantly transform into Frog form and use the move.

Down B - Snake Bite - The Prince transforms into his Snake form and bites with poisontipped fangs. Any opponent hit gains a poisoned status and takes damage over time for a few seconds. If you use this move while in Frog or Human form the Prince will instantly transform into Snake form and use the move.

Up B - High Jump/Warp Door - The Prince squats, then leaps upwards. Jump height and damage done to opponent is based on which form the Prince is in. If used in the air, the Prince places the Warp Door and goes inside. A moment later it appears a distance away and he exits. If used near a platform it automatically appears on the edge of the ledge and he exits. The Prince goes into freefall state after using this move.

Final Smash - The Spring Bell tolls - The Prince pulls out a small bell and rings it. Suddenly, hundreds of frogs leap onto the stage and bounce around in a frenzy, hitting all opponents.





Stage Options

Spoiler: Eclair Palace


Music Options
The Prince's Adventure (Overworld Theme):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJJLdMwJlKc&feature=related
Theme of King Delarin (Final Boss Theme):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlIZZhaVdMo
Other than those two, For the Frog the Bell Tolls has has several other background themes that would do well with a modern remix or orchestration.


Fake Dojo Pictures:



What people think of Prince Sable's chances:
http://challengerapproaching.tumblr.com/post/54839452032/for-what-the-bell-tolls


Alt. Colors by Venus of the Desert Bloom:


Prince Sable Roster Icons:


Prince Sable's Froakian Army (Supporters):
1. BluePikmin11
2. Young Horsetail
3. AetherEch0s
4. R.O.B.
5. Holder of the Heel
6. Zzuxon
7. MasterMushroom
8. SmashChu
9. sheik93
10. Frostwraith
11. Speculator
12. xpnc
13. FalKoopa
14. APC99
15. grizby2
16. SuperBrawler
17. ThatWasPeachy
18. Keybladeguy
19. Cpt.
20. SchAlternate
21. Lolo Lolo
22. MasteRMerF
23. S1LV3RH00D
24. CardiganBoy
25. Thelastreplicant
26. GM_3826
 

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Hey! I thought I was on the support list for Prince Sable! I know he's de-confirmed and everything, but still!:sadeyes:
 

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What. A. Cutie. And he's devastatingly good too. I also keep hearing little anvil noises when he's kicking someone's ass. They really kept him full of charm, right to the sounds.
 
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