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Probably a Jin brawler for sure. King Brawler also makes sense. Other namco characters I could see getting costumes are Lloyd, KOS MOS, and Klonoa as an oddball choice.
Nightmare.
Valkyrie from Legend of Valkyrie as a Mii Swordfighter costume.
Someone from Tekken (Jin, Paul Phoenix, etc)
This still goes off of a lot of assumptions- we don't actually know what any character cost. Hell, given the marketing it puts forth for 'rival' companies, it may just be a portion of the sales.
You said it right there - Smash speculation is what fuels the interest of the game, moreso than the reveals and the game itself. That's the game they're playing. They could have shown the last two fighters last week, but they didn't. Not because of COVID, but because if they did that, they lose the publicity that Smash generates and given their rather weak showcase at E3, this tells me that they really are going to go right to the end of 2021 with this pass. And I will say that Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest are not cheap to license, moreso the former with how convoluted the music rights are if Cloud in both Smash Four and Ultimate's base game are anything to go by and Sakurai outright mentioned that the Heroes' voice actors were costly, but only the seiyuus. And even then, I imagine Sugiyama being pretty stingy with the music for DQ as well, but at least you only have to go through Sugiyama with that one vs. the handful of composers for Final Fantasy and that's for one game.
I have played Tekken, and that's why I made the comparison. Transcribing Tekken's gameplay to Smash is the same process as Street Fighter/Fatal Fury. They play differently, but the concept/foundation is more or less the same.
That isn't at all what I said- while I personally do love to speculate, and it does generate hype for the game, the big news for Smash, the reveals, is what makes headline news for Nintendo.
They could have just revealed them all in the beginning, too. That doesn't make it the smart decision.
These are still speculations towards cost. Smash is not exactly like other places where a character will be licensed- the other parties actually have a lot to gain.
Curious... what evidence do you cite?
Meaning... that they are 1v1 HP fights?
Speculation is the meat of Smash, so much so that it eclipses the actual reveals and even game itself. This was always the case since Brawl. You're right about the reveals, but the mystery box speculation is the meat of this game at least.
…Which also ties in with what I said. And I never said anything about revealing them all at the beginning, just that it was a possibility that they could have done a double reveal.
I don't know where your claim of 'anger' is coming from, but I'm simply being critical of what was shown along with speculating (That seems to be the new trigger word now) what's to come. Naturally people in the Crash thread are going to be disappointed that Crash wasn't shown and is unlikely to show up. I don't see anyone typing in all caps wishing death on Sakurai.
Not if they’re unable to navigate through the legal webbing. Square (Keyword, Enix is another beast) already has problems with some of the music in Final Fantasy, mainly any songs with a singer or vocals and I believe that the composers for each respective title own the rights to the music used in said titles.
I...just said it in that paragraph, source, the Steve showcase. And it's not a secret that Nintendo wants to push Fire Emblem, Corrin alone showed that and Sakurai had to reiterate twice that he's aware of FE's overrepresentation.
C'mon now. I literally said that the process for transcribing Kazuya is the same as Ryu/Ken/Terry IE lifting their gameplay straight from the source and implementing it in Smash.
Speculation is not what drives the game, the game sales are what drive the game. There are very few people compared to the entire Smash audience that spend time speculating.
What I initially quoted referred to asking you what you meant by "Once you realize the game that they're playing, it's hard to really invest in it when you fully expect to be disappointed." Though you didn't clarify then or now, I just stated that I was making the guess that you meant, reveal them all at once.
I just communicated what I took from your reading. I don't personally think one need go to the extreme of death threats when they are angry.
It can be a nightmare, but that doesn't at all equate to assumed costs.
We don't know, we havn't seen how he controls. The only thing we were once told is that Sakurai wanted to work a Tekken character like in their game- mapping out limbs to buttons. However he got that to blend with Smash clearly took a lot of work, or it would have been easy to do when he first found it impossible. We can wait and see how he actually gets played.
Dang it's only one off for working with plant too
I can't see Nintendo caring too much about patterns, but they may be interested in diversifying the pass with a nonhuman character. I just know that's not the only thing they're going to consider, so it's just another coin toss unfortunately.
Oh yeah, I forgot about the plant.
I know, which is why even I am not taking this pattern I have seen seriously.
I mean, it happened with Byleth...
No, I actually WANTED Byleth. I was just making a joke about how Nintendo ordered FP1.
This is the Smash fanbase we're talking about. They'll find a way...
Well nobody can really blame them for Byleth.. I mean.. How many FE does this game need? xD I'll be the 1st person to say I hate Byleth's design, origins, reveal trailer, you name it. He beat out my old most hated, Corrin, by a long shot. Personally not into any human looking characters.
This post reminds me of this:
Yeah, that is basically Murphy's law for everyone here.
To be fair, I absolutely do not consider Steve to be cartoony. Of our DLC, I consider the only cartoony characters to be Banjo and Piranha.
The only thing worse, for me, would be yet another FE character.
He may not be that cartoony, but I personally still find him to be different enough from the other humans and humanoids that appeared as DLC so far, and I personally find him cartoony enough to put him up there with Banjo-Kazooie and the Piranha Plant, if a step below those two.
I'm just not sure how a 16 pixel character of a human can be considered cartoony. By that standard, characters like Samus were cartoony in their original games.
Well, maybe cartoony is not the right word, but I did not mean it in the sense of what you may be thinking. I actually meant whatever word that describes their non-normal look and not being close to the humans in the DLC passes. Who else is that blocky in real life? It may not count the physics Steve has in (which are still kinda different, if not cartoony due to how Steve moves and jumps), but with what was just said, you should probably know what I mean.
Likely the very worst possible outcome for me too.
That is what I thought. I was wondering how Steve could not be cartoony.
No... I don't think all characters with any exaggerated features are classified as cartoony. Even in your own example, it isn't congruent. If Steve has "exaggerated proportions," then absolutely so do Min Min, Joker, and Terry, who all have exaggerated eyes.
