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The Back Up To ottos THread
- Thread starter MaNg0
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I.B
Smash Lord
Mango is a big nerd
MikeHaggarTHAKJB
Smash Master
=O
thanks dude
this *****
question: your fox always ***** it up with shine-nair pressure. you never get shieldgrabbed =/
how do you generally time your nair-shine-nair shieldpressure? i tend to get shieldgrabbed after the nair (or mess up my sh cuz i suck)
late nair or early or do you mix it up for mindgames?
also is nair better then dair for shieldpressure? (according to scotu's frame-data dair can always be shieldgrabbedbut it takes really really good timing from your opponent)
thanks dude
this *****
question: your fox always ***** it up with shine-nair pressure. you never get shieldgrabbed =/
how do you generally time your nair-shine-nair shieldpressure? i tend to get shieldgrabbed after the nair (or mess up my sh cuz i suck)
late nair or early or do you mix it up for mindgames?
also is nair better then dair for shieldpressure? (according to scotu's frame-data dair can always be shieldgrabbedbut it takes really really good timing from your opponent)
=D
wellllll with the nair what i do is
short jump and wait till ur about
in the middle of there shield and do the Nair
and then ull hit the floor then shine
the reason is because if u do ur nair from the top
That whole like half a second where ur falling from the top of there sheild
to the floor is where u get grabbed im pretty sure
if u do it from about the middle it makes it hard
and no matter how fast u are u can still get shieldgrabbed
from people who no timing
and drill is actually good sometimes what u do is
the "Lucky" as i call it u nair shine nair shine then dair
and do the dair at the beggining of ur jump so it pokes there
head cause there shield is down from the nair shine
then it hits drill shine grab or whatever u wanna do =D
and every once in a while i mix up the timing wiht my nair
wellllll with the nair what i do is
short jump and wait till ur about
in the middle of there shield and do the Nair
and then ull hit the floor then shine
the reason is because if u do ur nair from the top
That whole like half a second where ur falling from the top of there sheild
to the floor is where u get grabbed im pretty sure
if u do it from about the middle it makes it hard
and no matter how fast u are u can still get shieldgrabbed
from people who no timing
and drill is actually good sometimes what u do is
the "Lucky" as i call it u nair shine nair shine then dair
and do the dair at the beggining of ur jump so it pokes there
head cause there shield is down from the nair shine
then it hits drill shine grab or whatever u wanna do =D
and every once in a while i mix up the timing wiht my nair
Binx
Smash Master
Mango, I've been seeing a lot of shine to upsmash lately from people, is there a real advantage to trying it or is it just because it looks cool? seem to send them very horizontal but I don't know if its because of DI.
I.B
Smash Lord
It depends really. Most of the time it's not a good idea to approach with a shine because of its lack of range and just the fact that it's hard to place.
It probably sends them very horizontal because they tried to DI away from the shine, but the up-smash has enough range to cover that DI.
/isnotmango
It probably sends them very horizontal because they tried to DI away from the shine, but the up-smash has enough range to cover that DI.
/isnotmango
RaynEX
Colonel RTSD
why does Mango have a Fox thread?
Thats it I quit. <3
Thats it I quit. <3
there are like 4 of these for fox now.
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
Approaching with shine and shield --> shine is super sexual what are you talking about I.B.
You're just a dumb dumb poo poo face.
Pillaring for a while is massively overrated, everyone needs to jc shine grab more. Or if you're really afraid that they'll know when you're going for it, land behind people and then do it or land behind people and then wait for them to do stuff and punish because you're at a massive advantage from being behind someone and can really just react to them in that position.
You're just a dumb dumb poo poo face.
Pillaring for a while is massively overrated, everyone needs to jc shine grab more. Or if you're really afraid that they'll know when you're going for it, land behind people and then do it or land behind people and then wait for them to do stuff and punish because you're at a massive advantage from being behind someone and can really just react to them in that position.
Lovage
Smash Hero
mango how do i beat ur falcon? u keep reading me and combos ...gay
but at least i double shined u off the stage...fukken ****
but at least i double shined u off the stage...fukken ****
Binx
If u mean approach with shine?
the only character thats good against
i would say ic's
if u mean like shine to upsmash instead
of a grab I think its all preference
off an upsmash they can be caught up in the air
for a nair or something =D
raynex - lol <3
lovage u cant beat my falcon =P
If u mean approach with shine?
the only character thats good against
i would say ic's
if u mean like shine to upsmash instead
of a grab I think its all preference
off an upsmash they can be caught up in the air
for a nair or something =D
raynex - lol <3
lovage u cant beat my falcon =P
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
shine is pretty sick against falco because fox's shine is bigger than falco's and knocks him over into **** death tech chases. by which i mean grabs.
soap
Smash Hero
falco will ftilt u to the dome if u try that silly ****
the "LUcky" looks cool as ****
the "LUcky" looks cool as ****
MikeHaggarTHAKJB
Smash Master
@ mango thanks 
so you do the nair at the peak of your jump? or slightly after that? (while shieldpressuring)
also: when you approach with nair do you usually time it early in the jump or do you delay it then aswell to not get shieldgrabbed? (in case they shield)
as it is know I get shieldgrabbed about 70% of the time if my opponent spaces a shieldgrab correctly (i try to space it land behind them, but sometimes i phail).
(I prolly get shieldgrabbed so much cuz i have the habit of timing my nair really early. I should stop that.
)
also: how do I fight marth with fox.
idk if you even use your fox vs marths (in tourny) tho but you ****, so w/e =D
so you do the nair at the peak of your jump? or slightly after that? (while shieldpressuring)
also: when you approach with nair do you usually time it early in the jump or do you delay it then aswell to not get shieldgrabbed? (in case they shield)
as it is know I get shieldgrabbed about 70% of the time if my opponent spaces a shieldgrab correctly (i try to space it land behind them, but sometimes i phail).
(I prolly get shieldgrabbed so much cuz i have the habit of timing my nair really early. I should stop that.
)also: how do I fight marth with fox.
idk if you even use your fox vs marths (in tourny) tho
but you ****, so w/e =Dyhea i've asked this in pretty much every fox thread there is... >.> i hate marth
Lovage
Smash Hero
mango teach me how to full jump nair right??
LumpyCPU...
Smash Hero
oh cool. mango has like 9 "ask me about..." threads now. LOL
it's too good!
and i will heart the lucky...
i will spread that joy...
edit: i almost post like mango...
it's too good!
and i will heart the lucky...
i will spread that joy...
edit: i almost post like mango...
when im shield pressure i think i wait like a
quarter second then do my nair =D
when u approach with nair u gotta kinda dash
dance in or else u will being doing the nair early =D
and try the pc chris and land behind them with ur nair
and they cant do ne thing ^_^
and marth is actually not bad
the way i play marth is i dont approach him
make him approach u he doesnt really have an ap-
roach but the hard thing is spacing his approach becau-
se his swords long
just kinda dash dance around and wait for him to land with
an aerial then grab
this match is all about grabs
grabs = victory
and try not 2 sheild pressure it doesnt work =( as good
quarter second then do my nair =D
when u approach with nair u gotta kinda dash
dance in or else u will being doing the nair early =D
and try the pc chris and land behind them with ur nair
and they cant do ne thing ^_^
and marth is actually not bad
the way i play marth is i dont approach him
make him approach u he doesnt really have an ap-
roach but the hard thing is spacing his approach becau-
se his swords long
just kinda dash dance around and wait for him to land with
an aerial then grab
this match is all about grabs
grabs = victory
and try not 2 sheild pressure it doesnt work =( as good
RaynEX
Colonel RTSD
oh mango.
magno. magno!
teach me yo ways.
magno. magno!
teach me yo ways.
soap
Smash Hero
who is the hero loto?
RaynEX
Colonel RTSD
I.B
Smash Lord
Translation: dash dance camp for grabs.
soap
Smash Hero
what do u do when marths dont do aerials and keep dash attacking u out of dash dance?
elvenarrow3000
Smash Master
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Um. Shieldgrab?
RaynEX
Colonel RTSD
usmash oos, block, shieldgrab, SH dair goes over dash attack sometimes...
uhh, this isn't that hard to counter.
when marths just dash dance camp u
u ... how bout some lasers ive come 2 a conslusion
when u laser people they come at u =D
and u can approach with dash attack
and yes i no it sounds noob
try it
and the hero loto
is neighborhoodp
u ... how bout some lasers ive come 2 a conslusion
when u laser people they come at u =D
and u can approach with dash attack
and yes i no it sounds noob
try it
and the hero loto
is neighborhoodp
RaynEX
Colonel RTSD
lol mango, the whole "laser them and they'll come to you", has been covered in detail in many Fox guides.
(Namely, CKit's guide)
Beating camping with camping works, but it isn't very cool. Playing Fox is all about being cool.
(Namely, CKit's guide)
Beating camping with camping works, but it isn't very cool. Playing Fox is all about being cool.
Mew2King
King of the Mews
Mango - my favorite thing to do vs Falco with Marth is just stand there, take the laser, then they come at me with Dair, and I just take the laser and dash away from them so the Dair doesn't hit me. Then dash toward them and grab (or pivot grab same ****/result). Easy way to get grabs. Take the laser then DD grab them. It's funny
NeighborhoodP
Smash Hero
omg M2K that is so ****ing brilliant
soap
Smash Hero
i remember reik talking about that 2 years ago
he said he just kept shooting lasers till u cut that **** out
he said he just kept shooting lasers till u cut that **** out
DanteFox
Smash Champion
hey mango, I've seen you do your shine > short hop > nair/bair/dair >shine > short hop... etc. tech both on opponents and just between stocks. Do you jump with the control stick when you do that, or do you just use the buttons?
soap
Smash Hero
y is the shiz
cykofox
Smash Ace
is uthrow usmash guaranteed at 0% in dittos? it pisses me off how reliant this is.
RaynEX
Colonel RTSD
lol..uthrow anything on fox/falco works with a ****load of characters.
why does it piss you off so much.
characters that can combo fox/falco out of an uthrow,
Mewtwo, Mario, Doc, Fox, Marth, Roy, DK, G&W, Pikachu, Pichu, Zelda uthrow->dash attack->fair. lol
with dthrow: Yoshi, Ganon, ICs
I'm missing characters in this list but im mad lazy right now.
cykofox
Smash Ace
hey rayn is that what you do at 0% or do you go for the chaingrab?
soap
Smash Hero
rayn goes for the waveshine to to shine usmash