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The 949 Smash Thread: RIP PacWest
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SuperRad
Smash Master
combofest
change your avatar mo****a
change your avatar mo****a
yes. that avatar is a KFC original
SuperRad
Smash Master
well
kfc/kira had rights to that avatar
then kfc WHOOPED DAT TRICK
kfc/kira had rights to that avatar
then kfc WHOOPED DAT TRICK
Kira ain't no trick though. he's just a beezy. I didn't know he had that avatar...I guess we know who's an avatar stalker!
SuperRad
Smash Master
nah
I'm a Shmooguy stalker.
I'm a Shmooguy stalker.
I can't blame you. I've been trying to make my hair as good as his for years...
stabbedbyanipple
Smash Master
Wtf? You're telling me that you guys didn't bother to drive 5 minutes to JDM's house so we could have a bigger smashfest and instead just were lazy ****s and decided to stay at cams and keep the smashfest divided? That's dumb as ****!
Also, I'm really starting to hate doubles friendlies. I played them all of today and learned nothing. And I have legitimate reasons imo.
Reason A: In singles I'm learning how to pressure them into rolling and punishing them and also learning where they're gonna go and punishing that. I can't do that in double because there are 2 of them and also my partner that I have to worry about. The reason they roll or do something else may not be because of me, it could be my partner. Also, if I read it right and their partner gets in the way then I miss my opportunity to practice how I'll punish it.
Reason B: If you just team with someone out of the blue, you'll have no team chemistry and the whole scene will be chaotic. You won't know when to save them or whether they want to punish or you do. You're on two separate wavelengths and it leads to sloppy teamwork and lousy matches.
Reason C: One person will go their secondary or some random character and then EVERYONE switches to their secondaries because they're bored (most likely because they're feelin' some of that Reason A/B). So we end up with Luigi/Mario vs Ganon/Sheik or something. No one learns anything from that and it's basically just goofing off. That's fine but I really want to get better lately and learn. This is definitely not productive and doesn't help us get better (although I'm not sure how teams friendlies with random people help you get better anyway).
Reason D: Unless I'm teaming with someone good who can keep people in check or save me, I'll get hit off in the chaos that is doubles friendlies (by a stray missile or some ****), then edge guarded by the other person. When I'm Falco and can't recover very far, this is especially annoying and I end up going Fox most of the time. It also pisses me off that I have to watch out for something like that THE WHOLE MATCH. You're telling me I have to do all of the things I normally do while keeping in mind that a stray missile could come and hit me out of it even though I'm doing everything right?
I just want to team with a good Fox I can go Falco/Fox with or a good Falcon I can go Falcon/Fox with (because those are the only teams I enjoy in doubles). And I want to team with JUST that person. I want to improve our team chemistry and I want us to be able to know how each other works.
Maybe I'm just bitter because I got constantly hit by my partner and his missiles or because we ended up playing ridiculous characters and I learned nothing.
So yeah, if you're a Falcon main or a Fox main and are looking for a consistent partner to team and get better with, I'd be more than happy to team with you.
AntoPark
Smash Lord
Hey, we won quite a few times you know. :[
Well not against Fly, but that's Fly.
Remember that one combo that ended with the charge shot?
Team chemistry, man.
Don't hate on the missles. :[
Well not against Fly, but that's Fly.
Remember that one combo that ended with the charge shot?
Team chemistry, man.
Don't hate on the missles. :[
stabbedbyanipple
Smash Master
Winning doesn't matter if I'm not learning anything.
Team chemistry isn't just a couple lucky team combos.
Its warmups at the very least.
Having a consistent doubles partner is nice though.
Having a consistent doubles partner is nice though.
Matt-
You're totally right, you only get better in teams by playing teams. You will never improve in singles by playing doubles.
Also if you and your partner are both good, and good in teams, you'll automatically have "chemistry". But, as your post stated, you can still improve further than that.
You're totally right, you only get better in teams by playing teams. You will never improve in singles by playing doubles.
Also if you and your partner are both good, and good in teams, you'll automatically have "chemistry". But, as your post stated, you can still improve further than that.
SuperRad
Smash Master
If you are just starting out, playing doubles can be nice if you are completely outmatched because it can hide some of your flaws and your partner can compensate. Also, you can still build tech skill and get used to not paying attention to your own character.
I'm mostly over team friendlies though, for most of the same reasons as Matt. I don't play very much anymore, and I'd rather play in a way that will sharpen my skills. I still mostly suck at this game, and playing with three pretty good people in doubles just magnifies that.
I'm mostly over team friendlies though, for most of the same reasons as Matt. I don't play very much anymore, and I'd rather play in a way that will sharpen my skills. I still mostly suck at this game, and playing with three pretty good people in doubles just magnifies that.
Little England
Smash Master
Don't you hate it when you write a kinda long post, and then you refresh the page before you post it to see who else might have posted in the meantime, and then you see that the person before you made the same post you were about to make in fewer words.
I hate you Dave.
I hate you Dave.
man who cares if their pride gets hurt.if they dont wanna get butthurt then they should try harder to win haha.and if they do you know what to tell em so its all good
OkamiBW
Smash Champion
Stab-I suggest you pick up maybe three or four different doubles partners that you are willing to play with at most. People who you feel as though you know their style well enough to cover their holes and move well like an ice skating team. Don't play with anyone other than those people if it will frustrate you.
For example, the four people who I really like to team with are first and foremost, Signia. I know his style as well as my own. I know it well enough where I don't even have to look at his character. Instead of having to look out for those stray missiles, I can concentrate on the 2 opponents. In turns, he knows my style as well. Because of it, we can do stuff that we normally wouldn't be able to do in singles. For example, today, Ryan grabbed you (Stab) and then instead of just throwing you when I didn't hit you, he and I both knew "we" were going to grab release and "we" were going to get the gimp with Sheik's backthrow.
Second teammate I love teaming with is Shivknight. I know he loves platforms (for example), so I know to cover the ground options in particular. Teamwork reaps its benefits here because of this.
Third teammate, Axe, is also really cool to play with. We've developed some things that only we do (though Signia and I do too now). For example, when one of us is recovering, the other will grab the edge as if to edgehog the person and then double jump with an attack or roll up with timing to let the teammate back on or something so that the opponents can't have the opportunity to edgehog. Another example is when using our mains, Axe will occasionally thunder to combo, and I will short hop over with a nair to block almost any opening that Pikachu's lag will have. We know that if we're fighting floaties that we should hit one off and instead of edgeguarding (like you would in singles), you just run over and double team the other one.
Fourth is Rusty, which is pretty cool because he is an aggressive spacey player. So I can cover his mistakes and any options he can't cover, which makes for great teamwork.
AT ANY RATE...MY POINT IS:
Teaming with other people whose styles you don't know takes much of the enjoyment out of doubles. Teaming with someone who is really good may be fun for awhile, but it is, at least in my opinion, missing the entire point of doubles. You need to learn your partner's style and learn how to move with it. You don't HAVE to play doubles. Heck, if all people want to do is play doubles and you don't, then just don't come.
Note: If there's four people and one TV, it's a heck of a lot more efficient to make three people who want to play doubles happy, than it is to force two people to sit out for your own benefit. If you want to do that, then you'll have to fix the problem yourself by bringing another set up or hosting something at your house.
Second Note: The above note is not just to you, Stab. I can imagine you responding to that note saying, "I do bring another set up sometimes." Or "I do offer for people to come to my house." Do me a favor and don't respond to that note.
Third Note: If you want to respond to this, just don't take this post seriously. It's 1:15 AM and I'm probably just rambling on instead of going to sleep. Also, I bet Tai will somehow be a devil's advocate to me and point out something wrong in my post just to be a ****. No offense Tai, but you do it to me all the time. :/
Fourth Note: Stab, hope you felt like you got better today because you didn't "play doubles all of today". You spent about 45 minutes to an hour with Jeremy playing his Ice Climbers. Sorry to be a **** in this post. On a lighter note to you: I'll see if I can check on getting a venue at the middle school where I live.
For example, the four people who I really like to team with are first and foremost, Signia. I know his style as well as my own. I know it well enough where I don't even have to look at his character. Instead of having to look out for those stray missiles, I can concentrate on the 2 opponents. In turns, he knows my style as well. Because of it, we can do stuff that we normally wouldn't be able to do in singles. For example, today, Ryan grabbed you (Stab) and then instead of just throwing you when I didn't hit you, he and I both knew "we" were going to grab release and "we" were going to get the gimp with Sheik's backthrow.
Second teammate I love teaming with is Shivknight. I know he loves platforms (for example), so I know to cover the ground options in particular. Teamwork reaps its benefits here because of this.
Third teammate, Axe, is also really cool to play with. We've developed some things that only we do (though Signia and I do too now). For example, when one of us is recovering, the other will grab the edge as if to edgehog the person and then double jump with an attack or roll up with timing to let the teammate back on or something so that the opponents can't have the opportunity to edgehog. Another example is when using our mains, Axe will occasionally thunder to combo, and I will short hop over with a nair to block almost any opening that Pikachu's lag will have. We know that if we're fighting floaties that we should hit one off and instead of edgeguarding (like you would in singles), you just run over and double team the other one.
Fourth is Rusty, which is pretty cool because he is an aggressive spacey player. So I can cover his mistakes and any options he can't cover, which makes for great teamwork.
AT ANY RATE...MY POINT IS:
Teaming with other people whose styles you don't know takes much of the enjoyment out of doubles. Teaming with someone who is really good may be fun for awhile, but it is, at least in my opinion, missing the entire point of doubles. You need to learn your partner's style and learn how to move with it. You don't HAVE to play doubles. Heck, if all people want to do is play doubles and you don't, then just don't come.
Note: If there's four people and one TV, it's a heck of a lot more efficient to make three people who want to play doubles happy, than it is to force two people to sit out for your own benefit. If you want to do that, then you'll have to fix the problem yourself by bringing another set up or hosting something at your house.
Second Note: The above note is not just to you, Stab. I can imagine you responding to that note saying, "I do bring another set up sometimes." Or "I do offer for people to come to my house." Do me a favor and don't respond to that note.
Third Note: If you want to respond to this, just don't take this post seriously. It's 1:15 AM and I'm probably just rambling on instead of going to sleep. Also, I bet Tai will somehow be a devil's advocate to me and point out something wrong in my post just to be a ****. No offense Tai, but you do it to me all the time. :/
Fourth Note: Stab, hope you felt like you got better today because you didn't "play doubles all of today". You spent about 45 minutes to an hour with Jeremy playing his Ice Climbers. Sorry to be a **** in this post. On a lighter note to you: I'll see if I can check on getting a venue at the middle school where I live.
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im probably one of the few that believe this but
i disagree with reason a because you can still pressure people into doing stuff, i think its way easier than in singles. you also learn to punish people not only because of your own actions but also your partners actions, which to me is way funner.
reason b: bad communication is frustrating but unless they suck major d!ck (probably since its irvine) you can resolve those spots where nobody knows who should punish by simply saying you or he/she should punish in those situations. From my experience people do not resolve this communication issue and simply whine about it whenever it happens
if they suck really bad say you will do all the work (unless you suck also.. then..) and they should sit back and support/catch rolls/come in to help when you are getting *****. I don't think thats the optimum way to play teams but it works (in most cases)
reason c: legit although unless ur busy in the summer u have a butt load of days to train. there's no real hurry to stop playing team friendlies with your homeys
reason d: getting ***** by what sounds like a noob samus partner stinks. i think though most of the time you can just tell him to stop shooting missiles unless he knows he can't hit you, you are far enough that you can react (maybe your reaction speed isn't good enough even if that situation shouldn't be happening) , or just ditch missiles altogether.
if you want a good teams partner, you have to prove that you are a great teams partner. teaming with people (bad people included) in my opinion make you more versatile so that when you aren't teaming with ur buddy who you team with every single tournament you can quickly adjust to their style. You learn to play different roles from offensive, defensive/support, etc. This in my opinion makes you an overall better teams player and more desirable by players of all types. once you learn how to play niche roles you'll do well with any decent partner as better people want to team with you and not think that they are carrying you. Needless to say your partner should also improve as well.
maybe not with a bad samus partner though
so in conclusion, even if its team friendlies with a buncha noobs, strive to improve instead of getting frustrated. learn to combo people in a teams match like dashizwiz while dodging your target's partner as they try to help them and combo them instead as they run up to you. it seems like you are not a teams hater so there is no reason not to improve in teams since it is half of melee.
doubles is hard and frustrating but if you persevere and try to get better each time you play with anybody you will most likely be rewarded with good results and fun
i disagree with reason a because you can still pressure people into doing stuff, i think its way easier than in singles. you also learn to punish people not only because of your own actions but also your partners actions, which to me is way funner.
reason b: bad communication is frustrating but unless they suck major d!ck (probably since its irvine) you can resolve those spots where nobody knows who should punish by simply saying you or he/she should punish in those situations. From my experience people do not resolve this communication issue and simply whine about it whenever it happens
if they suck really bad say you will do all the work (unless you suck also.. then..) and they should sit back and support/catch rolls/come in to help when you are getting *****. I don't think thats the optimum way to play teams but it works (in most cases)
reason c: legit although unless ur busy in the summer u have a butt load of days to train. there's no real hurry to stop playing team friendlies with your homeys
reason d: getting ***** by what sounds like a noob samus partner stinks. i think though most of the time you can just tell him to stop shooting missiles unless he knows he can't hit you, you are far enough that you can react (maybe your reaction speed isn't good enough even if that situation shouldn't be happening) , or just ditch missiles altogether.
if you want a good teams partner, you have to prove that you are a great teams partner. teaming with people (bad people included) in my opinion make you more versatile so that when you aren't teaming with ur buddy who you team with every single tournament you can quickly adjust to their style. You learn to play different roles from offensive, defensive/support, etc. This in my opinion makes you an overall better teams player and more desirable by players of all types. once you learn how to play niche roles you'll do well with any decent partner as better people want to team with you and not think that they are carrying you. Needless to say your partner should also improve as well.
maybe not with a bad samus partner though
so in conclusion, even if its team friendlies with a buncha noobs, strive to improve instead of getting frustrated. learn to combo people in a teams match like dashizwiz while dodging your target's partner as they try to help them and combo them instead as they run up to you. it seems like you are not a teams hater so there is no reason not to improve in teams since it is half of melee.
doubles is hard and frustrating but if you persevere and try to get better each time you play with anybody you will most likely be rewarded with good results and fun
SuperRad
Smash Master
ComboFest
Smash Lord
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Adam M!
Smash Lord
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doubles is all about simplifying. when your teammate is hit, support. when you hit your opponent 2v1 at every opportunity. always keep team first, which means play safe and dont get hit, preserve stocks, etc. fundamentals are extremely important.
anything rewarding is hard =)
anything rewarding is hard =)
I can't tell if you're *****ing or something, I'm just going to assume that you're mad about doubles and you're showing your anger here so here's what I did with him today since you have no idea what happen today:
I picked him up at Rei's place around 10:30am because Rei is leaving to Palmdale in the morning and MacD has work around 8ish.
He lost his controller last night and he's sick as well. He told me he didn't feel like playing since he's sick/demotivated to play since he lost his controller.
I took him to go eat In N Out for breakfast. After that we went to Costa Mesa Mall because he wanted to check it out (The guy is from NY, let him check things out)
He ask me if we can go to Newport Beach which I didn't mind. I ended up taking him to Newport and Huntington Beach. After that I took him back to Cameron's house around 2 plus he told me that he's going to Dunk's place after MacD gets out of work. MacD gets out from work around 2pm, I dropped him off around 2pm at Cameron's house. Yes I did told him about JDM's smashfest during breakfast. I'm not so sure about MacD told him about it but I think it's a safe bet that he did mention it to him.
So no matter if it's at JDM's house or Cameron's house he's still going to Dunk's house after MacD gets out from work.
Stab, the next time you call people lazy****s, I suggest that you look around and see what's going on before you called them lazy****s because I find that very insulting when you don't do **** to earn your own $$$ or you don't even know why he didn't go and play smash at JDM.
I didn't feel like playing nor did JesiahTEG as well. If you're mad that you didn't get to play him and stuff, That's fine he's staying in Cali for a few more weeks so you'll get your chance sooner or later. If you miss it then oh well that's fine because Axe, Tai, Shroomed and Alan are coming to So Cal around this upcoming weekend or the weekend after AnimeExpo. Plus KFC just moved in today at Riverside since he's attending school there and I'm going to smash with him, Little England, Adam at the 909 area on Monday. I think I might take JesiahTEG with me if he's coming back to Irvine tomorrow. So ask your Mother or Father if you can go to 909 then ask Adam if you can come over to smash with us. As for me? I didn't even get to play him and I was hanging out with him. I'm pretty sure Connor, Zhu, Nick, Rei and other people want to play him but he's not leaving til July 3rd I believe? So be lucky that this month alot of people are coming to So Cal instead you wasting your gas and effort to drive around toward those players. No one is keeping the smashfest divided at all, you're just jumping the gun here.
stabbedbyanipple
Smash Master
Rob: Ya, i definitely learned from playing Fly for a bit
S2J: Legit post. i'll try and keep that stuff in mind
Jason: You probably could have phrased your originial post better since it made it seem like you guys were hanging out at cams house and not coming over for no reason but my bad for jumping on you guys like that.
S2J: Legit post. i'll try and keep that stuff in mind
Jason: You probably could have phrased your originial post better since it made it seem like you guys were hanging out at cams house and not coming over for no reason but my bad for jumping on you guys like that.
AntoPark
Smash Lord
I guess I'll try to type up a wall of text explaining the doubles friendlies from my(samus') point of view. So Matt and I were playing friendlies on his hacked wii; then Signia/Okami came and we played doubles. I don't really enjoy playing doubles against Signia/Okami when they're a team because even when I teamed with Paul we were outclassed. Paul and I know each others' styles pretty well too, so as a team we're not too bad and I still occasionally hit him with my missles. I solemnly play doubles in a serious event so I don't have the knowledge of when to use missles or not. In singles my missles aren't always meant to hit my opponent(not that they're meant to hit Matt by any means). I usually just fire them to force my opponent to move or jump or whatever. I think I can safely say that Matt generally got hit with my missles when he was getting 2v1'd. I don't think that really matters but I think that just means I was getting hit away too much, so I'll try to get better as an individually just for Matt(and myself). I was thinking about just not using missles altogether, but that disrupted my regular playstyle and it felt awkward to play. I don't even really like doubles all that much anyway, I guess the only time I liked it was when I was playing doubles friendlies in San Diego with Gsub. But anyway, after we were winning some, Ryan/Okami started talking about changing the way they play or something so I'm pretty sure I said something about changing the way I play too; then Matt just told me to play the way I was playing. Regardless of all that though, I feel like I still am learning a lot and getting better at the same time(while having fun which is what smash is about). I'm learning a lot because doubles friendlies teaches you to try to work with another person's style and also try to figure out the other team's style as well, right? That's just what I think, at least. I'm getting better because I try harder to win because I don't want to disappoint my teammate. The missles are just a habit so I'll apologize for them in advanced, ahaha. Well that's that.
daaaaaaamn who is this intelligent individual and what did they do to our beloved Jkun?
I get hella pissed off when someone who doesn't do **** and work for their own money calling someone who's working their *** hard off an lazy****s.
It's ****ing pure ignorance.
ok I'm done. I'll stop kicking him from here. Sorry Stab, didn't mean to get off like that
lets do thisSo yeah, if you're a Falcon main or a Fox main and are looking for a consistent partner to team and get better with, I'd be more than happy to team with you.
say that **** to his face jason haha.its easy to "get off" online
<3 everyone
Lovage
Smash Hero
LOL jkun *****
thoughts about teams:
if two people have good game knowledge and DECENT team sense they will be a good team together no matter what. team chemistry is overrated, being a good player is a billion times more important. if you want to be a good teams player just be a good player first, everything after that will follow naturally. obviously the "get better" advice doesn't help if you're getting frustrated in teams
stuff i tell people in teams:
don't team combo.
team combos are either for fuking noobs or super duper duper pros. you have to have AMAZING teams sense to know when to correctly team combo without messing up your stage positioning or timing. the #1 noobazz thing noobs do in teams is get a grab at like 5% and then hold it, expecting their partner to do some sick combo. when in reality when they ran over to usmash they totally gave up the good position they had on the other opponent for like 15% on the first guy that probably got crouch canceled anyway. DUMB. don't team combo unless you're super duper pro like me.
don't save your partner, protect the edge.
people try too hard to do super super sick weak reverse uair saves with doc, that's dumb. 95% of the time people go out for insane saves they end up dying cuz they ran off the stage like a dumbazz. when your partner gets knocked off the stage, have faith in him that he will recover the best he can, and just clear the path for him. this can be done a buncha ways. simply BEING near the edge can scare away any edge-guarders, you'd be surprised how well this works (watch our vids.) it's super easy to stop edge-guarders unless they're amazingly sick like mango. while your partner is recovering just throw out like one bair and then shield. the person edge-guarding him will probably be shielding like a **** or trying to hit you, your partner lives, mission comprete.
if u actually want to get better in teams, find a partner.
teaming with a different bro every weekend is fun, but you learn how to be good in teams a billion times faster if you have the consistency of a regular partner. just pick someone who is around your level who plays a good character and go from there. idk why you don't just team with gsub or something every tourny you guys would prolly be rapin all the noobies by now and getting fourth (nvm gsubs a dooche)
thoughts about teams:
if two people have good game knowledge and DECENT team sense they will be a good team together no matter what. team chemistry is overrated, being a good player is a billion times more important. if you want to be a good teams player just be a good player first, everything after that will follow naturally. obviously the "get better" advice doesn't help if you're getting frustrated in teams
stuff i tell people in teams:
don't team combo.
team combos are either for fuking noobs or super duper duper pros. you have to have AMAZING teams sense to know when to correctly team combo without messing up your stage positioning or timing. the #1 noobazz thing noobs do in teams is get a grab at like 5% and then hold it, expecting their partner to do some sick combo. when in reality when they ran over to usmash they totally gave up the good position they had on the other opponent for like 15% on the first guy that probably got crouch canceled anyway. DUMB. don't team combo unless you're super duper pro like me.
don't save your partner, protect the edge.
people try too hard to do super super sick weak reverse uair saves with doc, that's dumb. 95% of the time people go out for insane saves they end up dying cuz they ran off the stage like a dumbazz. when your partner gets knocked off the stage, have faith in him that he will recover the best he can, and just clear the path for him. this can be done a buncha ways. simply BEING near the edge can scare away any edge-guarders, you'd be surprised how well this works (watch our vids.) it's super easy to stop edge-guarders unless they're amazingly sick like mango. while your partner is recovering just throw out like one bair and then shield. the person edge-guarding him will probably be shielding like a **** or trying to hit you, your partner lives, mission comprete.
if u actually want to get better in teams, find a partner.
teaming with a different bro every weekend is fun, but you learn how to be good in teams a billion times faster if you have the consistency of a regular partner. just pick someone who is around your level who plays a good character and go from there. idk why you don't just team with gsub or something every tourny you guys would prolly be rapin all the noobies by now and getting fourth (nvm gsubs a dooche)
ok .
SuperRad
Smash Master
i cant tell if this is a halfhearted attempt at 'defending' stab or what
but this was dumb as ****
OkamiBW
Smash Champion
Yeah, Charles. You're dumb for posting on smashboards. Stop posting and come play Melee.
Pu-ri-a-zu? (Say it quickly.)
ok well on saying "say it to his face" ..its more a question of character.its easy to post **** online about someone when youre miles away from them.i see it all the time on twitter,fb,the boards,whatever but when youre standing right next to them will you talk the same ****?i bet like 80% of these people wont.thats why i try to avoid posting bad stuff about people on the boards or whatever unless they know me and will know its a joke.i mean if you were brought up thinking its ok to be a coward and talk **** on the low or got like 20 friends behind you and NOT say **** when youre in person or by yourself then whatever just skip this post over but if you were brought up with any level of character at all you'd know theres some validity to what im saying right now or the phrase "say it to his/my face"
ps:
i still <3 everyone lol,and i dont mean to put anyone on blast,so im sorry if i am/did
@rob yeah im down..just need money to go up to irvine.i get paid this friday though lol
ps:
i still <3 everyone lol,and i dont mean to put anyone on blast,so im sorry if i am/did
@rob yeah im down..just need money to go up to irvine.i get paid this friday though lol
SuperRad
Smash Master
Stab called Jason out first, Jason was well within his place to respond on the boards.
I doubt they'll say **** in person, because by the next time they see each other I doubt either will care enough to bring it up (and anyways Stab definitely wont, and Jason is too much of a people pleaser to want to bring that drama up I'm guessing.) The boards are actually a good way to diffuse tension between people in the community. People can air their grievances without having to worry about being interrupted or whatever, and the other party can take their time to think about what is being said before responding. I'm not saying it's the best way, the right way or the way I would personally do it, but it's a legit route of handling business sometimes.
I doubt they'll say **** in person, because by the next time they see each other I doubt either will care enough to bring it up (and anyways Stab definitely wont, and Jason is too much of a people pleaser to want to bring that drama up I'm guessing.) The boards are actually a good way to diffuse tension between people in the community. People can air their grievances without having to worry about being interrupted or whatever, and the other party can take their time to think about what is being said before responding. I'm not saying it's the best way, the right way or the way I would personally do it, but it's a legit route of handling business sometimes.
Jason would've said all the things he posted imo just not as lengthy.
I would tell stab that's he's dumb in person and he would call me an *******. We would argue our point then we would forget and forgive and move on. Stab knows what's up if we argue like this on the boards. He said that he's sorry for calling out like that, then I would say I'm sorry for *****ing at him for it. End of story.
Does anyone knows that Silent Wolf is in LA? He's at the Great Dunk's house as well. =P Does anyone wanna tag along? I'm leaving in 30 minutes to 1 hour because I wanna grab some lunch with old friend then I'm heading off! My number is 408 507 2931
Does anyone knows that Silent Wolf is in LA? He's at the Great Dunk's house as well. =P Does anyone wanna tag along? I'm leaving in 30 minutes to 1 hour because I wanna grab some lunch with old friend then I'm heading off! My number is 408 507 2931
Everything Lovage and Johnny is very true.
Also if you're a noob and you're teaming with a really good player, DON'T try to be a hero and "live up" to whatever preconceived expectation you have given yourself. A good teams player in this sense would be someone who knows how to get carried. This means NOT punishing when your partner is there, NOT going for the edgeguards, NOT trying to do team combos.
Basically what you want to do is stall one opponent for long enough so that your good partner can **** the other one, and to allow your awesome teammate to not get edgeguarded and live as long as possible so he can continue ******. Other than that, stay out of his way and don't die.
Jason actually does something pretty good in this situation, for example say I'm teaming with Jason and we're playing against Cameron and Kyle. They're obviously the better team, and Jason has to have the patience and discipline to allow himself to get carried and not jump into the fight. So what he does is, if he gets a grab, he'll continue to hit them and allow them to break out (or sometimes throw them up after a lot of hits, regardless of the characters' weight). This incapacitates them for as long as possible, which allows Jason to stay alive longer, and allows me to try and kill the other guy one-on-one, whereas if Jason tried to combo them right away, they would probably get out and kill him a lot faster.
Throwing them away from me is also a good idea, since he can give up a tech chase by covering only the tech towards me and letting them to the other side of the stage. Then he can put up a wall of fairs / nairs / jabs / ftilts whatever so that they have to take the longest route possible if they want to get back to double-teaming me (which is what they want to be doing). And if you are in a position to combo, cut it short and get the guaranteed big hit to get them away, rather than trying to death-combo them and failing and letting them fight quicker.
Of course the better player will still have to kill everyone and save you when you inevitably get *****, but this method is much better than getting in his way and dying fast. It's very frustrating to have a good opening ruined by your own partner. Also DON'T THROW PROJECTILES cause everybody sucks at it when they're bad
Also if you're a noob and you're teaming with a really good player, DON'T try to be a hero and "live up" to whatever preconceived expectation you have given yourself. A good teams player in this sense would be someone who knows how to get carried. This means NOT punishing when your partner is there, NOT going for the edgeguards, NOT trying to do team combos.
Basically what you want to do is stall one opponent for long enough so that your good partner can **** the other one, and to allow your awesome teammate to not get edgeguarded and live as long as possible so he can continue ******. Other than that, stay out of his way and don't die.
Jason actually does something pretty good in this situation, for example say I'm teaming with Jason and we're playing against Cameron and Kyle. They're obviously the better team, and Jason has to have the patience and discipline to allow himself to get carried and not jump into the fight. So what he does is, if he gets a grab, he'll continue to hit them and allow them to break out (or sometimes throw them up after a lot of hits, regardless of the characters' weight). This incapacitates them for as long as possible, which allows Jason to stay alive longer, and allows me to try and kill the other guy one-on-one, whereas if Jason tried to combo them right away, they would probably get out and kill him a lot faster.
Throwing them away from me is also a good idea, since he can give up a tech chase by covering only the tech towards me and letting them to the other side of the stage. Then he can put up a wall of fairs / nairs / jabs / ftilts whatever so that they have to take the longest route possible if they want to get back to double-teaming me (which is what they want to be doing). And if you are in a position to combo, cut it short and get the guaranteed big hit to get them away, rather than trying to death-combo them and failing and letting them fight quicker.
Of course the better player will still have to kill everyone and save you when you inevitably get *****, but this method is much better than getting in his way and dying fast. It's very frustrating to have a good opening ruined by your own partner. Also DON'T THROW PROJECTILES cause everybody sucks at it when they're bad
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great post imo