The 949 Smash Thread: RIP PacWest

[AntoPark]

Thanks, Kira!
Don't worry, I'll name a combo after you. :[

 

[kirbyraeg]

I need a rage combo, and it has to be something stupid that you'll want to kick yourself for falling into.

 

[chiZZLeSD]

that's what she said

i dont get it haha

 

[Kangix]

spencer, i like your sub-title. Fits you.

 

[ComboFest]

I need a rage combo, and it has to be something stupid that you'll want to kick yourself for falling into.

When you are kirby and someone actually dies because you sucked him up and jump off the edge...

 

[stabbedbyanipple]

I need a rage combo, and it has to be something stupid that you'll want to kick yourself for falling into.

Kirby's Ftilt -> tech chase -> rest

 

[GSUB]

Kirby's Ftilt -> tech chase -> rest

I had a good laugh from this.

Well earlier Adam and Oscar were saying how GSUB has a "noob mindset", because they thought he was trying to boast about his achievements and he was making more of his wins than they thought he should, but everybody I know has this mindset at one point or another, everyone from M2K to HugS to myself has had quite a few instances where we would normally be guilty of this mindset but people give us the benefit of the doubt so it goes unnoticed. Plus Cameron wasn't even doing that in the first place, they're just giving him a hard time.

Yeahhh... hahah,
it's not like I was saying, "HEY GAIZ! LOOK AT MY POOLS MATCHES!"

Dave asked about "rumors"
and rather than going through a couple of posts of what he meant by "rumors"
I thought it'd just be easier to say everything in one post.

also, yes, I hate the "last edited by ___" thing too, Dave.

 

[Deleted member]

Hugs can brag about his wins or his sick ganon since he is a legendary player who can keep up with a horrible character

but gsub...

--

in terms of getting better, it's all upon the person himself to get better but I feel that gooder people can help set the person on the right path.

For example, most players of the game only think about two ways of DI-ing, survival (up and barely left or right) or anti-DI (away) but they don't think about DI-ing so low that you can tech the ground instead of DI-ing up to your death.

 

[Adam M!]

idc what gsub does cuz it means he'll just stay crappy for longer

but thats not gonna sto pme from laughing at him / making fun of him about it

 

[DJMirror]

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=9969485#post9969485


Check it out

Credit goes to Julian Kao for finding this

 

[Incronaut]

Hugs can brag about his wins or his sick ganon since he is a legendary player who can keep up with a horrible character

but gsub...

--

in terms of getting better, it's all upon the person himself to get better but I feel that gooder people can help set the person on the right path.

For example, most players of the game only think about two ways of DI-ing, survival (up and barely left or right) or anti-DI (away) but they don't think about DI-ing so low that you can tech the ground instead of DI-ing up to your death.

i think this is totally true for me... less so for DI and more so for not being able to think outside of like two options for punishing or approaching haha

 

[chiZZLeSD]

to DI into the ground to tech,you just smash DI right?

 

[JDM]

People can come over now.

 

[The Greater Leon]

The Pocket Guide to Advanced DI and Advanced Teching

DI- just do it
SDI - it moves you a teeny bit. move the control stick during hit stop. you get 1 SDI per frame. consecutive SDI directions must be 90 degrees away from each other (top left, bottom left, top left, bottom left). you do not to return the stick to neutral in between SDI's.
ASDI- very similar to SDI. ASDI is one extra frame of SDI during the frame immediately after hitstop ends. if the control stick is pressed in any direction, you get an additional tiny movement. if the c-stick is pressed in any direction it will outprioritize the control stick. ASDI occurs with your trajectory

Double Stick DI (aka Double Stick Tech)
ASDI down. this will cause collision with the ground. only ASDI will cause collision.
[unsure if this helps] SDI down towards the ground. this will put you close to the ground. you cant collide via ASDI unless you are close enough
Di down and away. this will also help put you close to the ground
L or R 20 frames before you leave hitstop

Ledge Tech
UpB
SDI in
L or R 20 frames before you leave hitstop
-Ledge Teching may cancel hitstop, if you did the input correctly

additional input appreciated

 

[Kira-]

that's what she said

The Pocket Guide to Advanced DI and Advanced Teching

DI- just do it
SDI - it moves you a teeny bit. move the control stick during hit stop. you get 1 SDI per frame. consecutive SDI directions must be 90 degrees away from each other (top left, bottom left, top left, bottom left). you do not to return the stick to neutral in between SDI's.
ASDI- very similar to SDI. ASDI is one extra frame of SDI during the frame immediately after hitstop ends. if the control stick is pressed in any direction, you get an additional tiny movement. if the c-stick is pressed in any direction it will outprioritize the control stick. ASDI occurs with your trajectory

Double Stick DI (aka Double Stick Tech)
ASDI down. this will cause collision with the ground. only ASDI will cause collision.
[unsure if this helps] SDI down towards the ground. this will put you close to the ground. you cant collide via ASDI unless you are close enough
Di down and away. this will also help put you close to the ground
L or R 20 frames before you leave hitstop

Ledge Tech
UpB
SDI in
L or R 20 frames before you leave hitstop
-Ledge Teching may cancel hitstop, if you did the input correctly

additional input appreciated

How do you know so much

the 20 frames before you leave hitstop.. does this mean that this is the first frame that the move is done hitting you and you're in the air

that's actually very helpful, no wonder you have to press it so early

 

[Tee ay eye]

shield DI: smash DI when something collides with your shield (i have yet to test the existence of automatic shield DI)
quarter circle DI: rotating your stick in a quarter circle to input multiple smash DI inputs on the various frames of a hit

 

[Kangix]

I cannot make it because i do not has keys.
sigh.

 

[The Greater Leon]

How do you know so much

the 20 frames before you leave hitstop.. does this mean that this is the first frame that the move is done hitting you and you're in the air

that's actually very helpful, no wonder you have to press it so early

yes.

the tech occurs on the first frame you leave hit stop (also the same frame ASDI occurs.)

im not 100% sure how double stick works, but i know ~everything about ledge teching.

but if you miss your sweetspot and are hit by a move with more than 20 frames of hit stop, it would be impossible to tech. but teching itself cancels hit stop. so yeah. just SDI in and L or R 20 frames before you SDI.

not trying to call you out tai, but just to clarify for the others:

quarter circle DI is not a true game mechanic. its just rolling the stick to try and take advantage of multiple SDI's

 

[ahchoomattchu]

Can someone clarify what hit stop is?

 

[chiZZLeSD]

Man everyone posting here is so knowledgeable haha.i would be completely lost without you guys

 

[Lovage]

by "hit stop" he means hitlag



theres hitlag and hitstun

hitlag is the freeze frames after you get hit with a move. moves like samus' charge shot and falcon's knee have high hitlag cuz you are frozen in the air for like 20 frames before you get sent flying

hitstun is the time after getting sent flying before you can do an action like jumping or nairing

KNOWLEDGE IS POWER KIDDOS

 

[ComboFest]

Why have the boards been going on and off lately?

 

[JDM]

 

[ComboFest]

Lol Drillman.

 

[-Rei-]

they switched servers

 

[ComboFest]

they switched servers

That is a good thing?

 

[-Rei-]

it's suppose to make crashboards faster

i think they're still trying to stabilize it

i wish they update the vbulletin one day

i been asking for months lol


oh and that's crashman lol

 

[The Greater Leon]

by "hit stop" he means hitlag



theres hitlag and hitstun

hitlag is the freeze frames after you get hit with a move. moves like samus' charge shot and falcon's knee have high hitlag cuz you are frozen in the air for like 20 frames before you get sent flying

hitstun is the time after getting sent flying before you can do an action like jumping or nairing

KNOWLEDGE IS POWER KIDDOS

man *** dese words

 

[Tee ay eye]

it's suppose to make crashboards faster

i think they're still trying to stabilize it

i wish they update the vbulletin one day

i been asking for months lol


oh and that's crashman lol

in the trash can like yesterday's tomatoes

 

[DJMirror]

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=9979114#post9979114



back and better than before

 

[Incronaut]

hey rei, i just got a PS2 and I want to mod it... ive been looking up methods and stuff but i was wondering what you did / what you recommend to do for it. thanks.

I was thinking of getting swap magic, and a harddrive (+network adapter) and burning HDLoader haha

 

[-Rei-]

i use swapmagic

i know someone that uses the harddrive + hdloader

i want to eventually use the memory card soft mod

i can tell you more when i get back from class

 

[stabbedbyanipple]

I'm on spring break this week

Anyone want to smash?

 

[ComboFest]

I want to but you live too far away.

Also can anyone tell me how to shield drop?

Edit: looks like the boards are finally stable.

 

[Incronaut]

i use swapmagic

i know someone that uses the harddrive + hdloader

i want to eventually use the memory card soft mod

i can tell you more when i get back from class

memory card soft mod? isnt that like swap magic installed onto your memory card or something? how the heck do you install something like that?? O_o"

isnt it annoying to have to burn every game you want to play though?

 

[MacD]

ok so hopefully people will see this

anyone need a ride to SD on sat? i know kira already has people and stuff but looks like right now i have to go alone... so yea

 

[AntoPark]

Do we get rides to and back? :D
Gas money and stuff, right?

 

[stabbedbyanipple]

You won't have to pay Gas Money because he's only taking you to SD

You're gonna have to walk back.

 

[AntoPark]

Yeah, that's what I thought too.
MacD<3. :D
(I'm probably going to go)

 

[-Rei-]

memory card soft mod? isnt that like swap magic installed onto your memory card or something? how the heck do you install something like that?? O_o"

isnt it annoying to have to burn every game you want to play though?

yeah it's called free mcboot

there are many methods to do it too

it works as if its an hdloader but also works as a normal memory card

you just have to remember to backup any of your ps2 data before installing it