if you have all your costume and stage files it's really easy. if u need help, pm me and it shouldn't be an issue for me to walk u through it
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Official The 20XX Melee Training Hack Pack (v5.0.2 - 1/20/2023)
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Boamba
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Stage file Question: How do I change the texture of the stage on 20xx 4.05? On 20xx 4.05 the file system for some stages, Dreamland for example, has multiple files ("GrOp.0at" "GrOp.kat" "GrOp.rat"). Which file do I replace if I want a different texture. This is not a problem with vanilla or 20xx 3.02 iso.
this thread isn't for tournament edition; it's for achilles' 20xx hack pack v4.05.
however, i don't see an option to do that in 20xxte 2a
(from the website:
"PLAYBACK
When playing back a replay, you are given a variety of controls.
Start: Pause the replay. While paused, you can press Z to advance frame by frame.
L/R: Slow down or speed up the playback speed.
A: Toggle the visibility of collision bubbles/hitboxes.
Y: Toggle the visibility of an input display at the top of the screen.
X: Perform a normal game pause, allowing you to move the camera or quit the replay.
D-pad Down: Cancel playback and give control back to the players. Doing this will not affect the replay that is currently in game memory - it is not recorded.")
in the future though, go to a different thread
AmericanTrailMix
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4.05 gives me a black screen when launching using Dolphin. Tried both the xdelta and default methods. Any help?
Decipio-Carmen
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I've run into a problem in both 3.02 and 4.05 where when one person picks Link, sometimes one or both players gets stuck at some percent, and no matter how many times they get hit, they will stay at that percent. After this occurs, for any match that you begin afterwards, either one or both characters will not get higher than that percent.
For me, the matchup it occurs in is Link vs Peach and Link vs DK. I don't exactly know how to reproduce it, but it seems to involve Link. From what I can remember, it happened in:
Link vs Peach (don't remember which version)
Link vs DK (3.02)
Link vs DK (4.05)
Is this a known issue? It could also just be my system. Using Nintendont
For me, the matchup it occurs in is Link vs Peach and Link vs DK. I don't exactly know how to reproduce it, but it seems to involve Link. From what I can remember, it happened in:
Link vs Peach (don't remember which version)
Link vs DK (3.02)
Link vs DK (4.05)
Is this a known issue? It could also just be my system. Using Nintendont
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I actually have another question, what is the name Link's Zora Link costume in 20XX? I was thinking of replacing that one with this costume of dark link
Dark Link is available as a texture
Heres the download link http://www.mediafire.com/download/1kagoeghpm9go9j/PlLkBu.dat
Dark Link is available as a texture
Heres the download link http://www.mediafire.com/download/1kagoeghpm9go9j/PlLkBu.dat
UnclePunch
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As far as I know, no. You can post them to the melee texture hack and if Achilles likes it, he'll put it in.
http://smashboards.com/threads/official-melee-texture-hack-thread.361190
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Aw, guess I didn't make the cut then : (
GunBlaze
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I think he refers to what is the name of the state he should put the color in.
There's a question of my own. Does the 20xx 4.05 support the hitbox freeze, grab oos, the action programmer etc listed in the in-game toggles? If so, how do I activate them?
There's a question of my own. Does the 20xx 4.05 support the hitbox freeze, grab oos, the action programmer etc listed in the in-game toggles? If so, how do I activate them?
GunBlaze
Smash Lord
No, toggles are still out.
Achilles1515
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Not a feature at the moment.
There is no audition process. Are you talking about costumes or moveset hacks? I think I mentioned this to you before, but a lot of the alt costumes in the Hack Pack are outdated because I wrote the alt costume code back in Jan. 2015 and haven’t changed the costumes since that point. A lot of good ones have been made since then, like that one Sheik vertex hack you did. I also just haven’t gotten to fully updating the third hacked stage select screen, which would use your Great Bay hack. In the meantime, please post the Great Bay update to the Stage Hacking forum - I'm interested to see what you've done. DRGN is helping me update the costumes.
DRGN
Debug Menu --> General Codes --> Player Flags --> Subcolor : Black
I've never heard of this. Sounds like the X+D-Pad Up toggle to freeze the max percent, but I've never heard of it automatically turning on. Let me know if you find a way to reproduce it.
Make sure cheat codes are disabled. If you ignored all your previous ISOs, downloaded the Root files in the OP and followed the README to generate your ISO....everything should work just fine.
As whims stated, this is the thread for the Hack Pack and not Tournament Edition. I can answer your question though, which is "There is not." A feature like that would cause desyncs if the game was recorded without a fixed camera. Once a character leaves the view of the camera, they start taking damage. If you used Fixed Camera when the game was recorded normally, character's damage would desync once knocked off the stage and then everything would likely be screwed up from that point forward.
http://smashboards.com/threads/the-...-update-3-17-16.351221/page-146#post-21051956
Damage is 32-bit floating point and not an int. 4-digit damage would be an insane hack - not something I'm willing to spend the time to try and make.Achilles1515 damage persent isn't int ?
Ganon's full charge UpshiftS-Smash is 32%. But if ganon attacked twice, damage will be 65%.
BTW, I want to see 4-digit number damage.
It's only Normal that has it, and there is not an easy way to make it apply universally yet. I'll try and add something like that in the future.
Thanks for all of the great work you've put in BTW! I finally updated after like two years haha
I'm looking back into it. There's just weird nuances that present interesting challenges when making a "good" code for this.
It wasn't always a frame perfect grab OoS because 3.02 is garbage.
The only AI type that follows the techchase options is "Normal". It's going to take a little bit of re-structuring code to add this and other things (like jump out of hitstun) to all AI types, but there should eventually be something to allow this.
I have a few questions:
Setting spotdodge to 100% after tech is the single best thing I've done for techchase practicing. It's seriously amazing, it's way better than the idea i posted here about having a sound or something play if you get a true combo techchase.
The new ai is awesome for practicing edgeguards and other things, but makes practicing pure reaction techchasing a lot harder.
The normal advice for this is to change the ai type to normalish, but that breaks the spotdodge function.
So is there an ai type that the spotdodge after tech will work with that I missed? I think I tried them all but might have missed some. If not could you add this functionality in? It would be huge for me and I've heard others say they want something similar on reddit. Especially the "stay" ai which is super useful for setting up these kinds of techchase practice routines.
Secondly, is there any way to find out about new 20xx developments? I find all this stuff super fascinating and would love to hear more about the features you're working on before they come out and the process behind making 20xx.
I imagine if the AI was set to Stay but could still use techchase options, it would be similar to setting shield propensity to 100 (so sitting in shield instead of Wait). Granted the CPU will still move around sometimes, but this can be usually be remedied with save states.
There is no way at the moment to know more about 20XX than what I post here. Compared to other people in this day and age, I live in a cave coding in the shadows and just throw my work into the light when it is "finished".
Well... don't I feel silly now
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Is there a way to get CPU's to recover and tech but not attack? I would like to use the latest 20XX for practice with edge guards on side-b's and stuff (with the recent additions) but for practicing purposes I don't want them to be hyper aggressive.
Basically, what's the best way to get a punching bag that will recover and tech?
Basically, what's the best way to get a punching bag that will recover and tech?
easyaspi314
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Been a while since I updated because I was rocking SD Remix. Just updated and found that we can use SDR characters!
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Balanced cast. Deal with it.
Balanced cast. Deal with it.
mythbust4000
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You can beat a level 9 fox by stalling on the ledge. Just letting you know https://youtu.be/-vx91Otjvfk (crappy mic)
easyaspi314
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At least it isn't vanilla Melee or PM. Those AIs were terrible.
The new AI isn't perfect, but no one is, within reason. Getting daired offstage by a CPU is both a "wow" and an "oh ****" at the same time.
And oh, Jigglypuff…rests…and never misses.
I just wish a few of the outstanding flaws were fixed:
- Kirby must never use Stone. Ever.
- Ness should learn to use PKT2 to recover. He should attempt to hold back and do it at an angle if he can. And more DJC bairs/dairs.
- Jiggs should do less ground, more air. More Wall of Pain.
- Pika and Pichu still doesn't know how to use Quick Attack. I want to see some stunts with that, because he still goes up then angled, not always to the ledge.
- CPUs should also defend their recovery, but make sure Ness and Yoshi don't waste their jump. And Kirby should usually fair on each jump.
- Triple R's Kirby (watch him, he is amazing)
- HBox's Ness
- M2K/Mango's Pichu
- Axe's Pika
- Green Ranger's DK
- DJ Nintendo's Bowser
- aMSa's Yoshi
- Armada's YL
- Shroomed's (and others') Doc
- M2K's Mewtwo (or pretty much any character he plays)
Also, if there is any way to change the debug menu font textures, I will be happy to provide PNGs.
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She has missed me a few timesAt least it isn't vanilla Melee or PM. Those AIs were terrible.
And oh, Jigglypuff…rests…and never misses.
Jiggs should do less ground, more air.
Her ground mobility is great! why change it 8)
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samaphant123
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I keep getting the 20xx iso but shows up as a disk image file? Did I do something wrong?
no, that's its file type. it'll open in dolphin emulator or load on a homebrew wii via sd or usb
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samaphant123
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Am I still able to load it through a memcard? I've tried at least 4 times and I get nothing.
easyaspi314
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BTW, what is your opinion of the SDR characters? I don't know if I like Ness or not. I can sorta play him in 64, but I am a Kirby main in all games except vanilla Melee and 3DS (he is a little hard to control IMO).
Sam'sAwakening
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Hey, I have a quick question. I am trying to get 4.05, but my computer is relatively old and when I drag my ISO to the .bat, it doesn't work because (it says this) the xdelta is not compatible with my computer (Windows Vista, 32 bit). Can anybody help me? It would be greatly appreciated!
AlexIsStarving
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use GCR
qKazoo
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Is that the only thing you need to put noon the SD or do you need other files in there?
qKazoo
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I'm in the exact same scenario, let me know if you figure it out.I used the guide in the OP to hack my wii with 20XX 3.02 from an sd card, and I'd like to update it with the new version. What should I change? I tried to just change the game.iso in the games folder, and it returned "fatal error: apploader size is zero." I tried putting a disc in the drive, but all it did was make the error show up a bit later. The ISO is also showing with (FST) instead of (ISO) when I select which game to load. Is there any way I can fix this, and if I can, how do I do so? Thank you so much
Doq
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Wait for PN4.0. Or find a 32-bit version of xdelta3 (PN3 has one... but I'm not entirely sure if I released it?)
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that's 20xx tournament edition. www.20xx.me (see my responses to the next issue; it's related to your issue as well)
put a folder on the root of the usb/sd and name it "games". open that folder and put another folder inside called whatever u want. put the .iso in that folder and name it "game"
u will need to homebrew your wii first if loading through nintendont.
both of u can pm me no prob if u need to be walked thru doing that. i had a lot of trouble getting it set up at first, and i've done it a lot, so i can probably get it to work for u guys
i can't play ness in any game except vanilla melee. the buffed ness hits too hard for me to combo. also, since his dair is his main combo setup, and the auto cancel works like peach's float cancel, that produces a very specific playstyle that sdr ness doesn't have since his dair comes out almost immediately. basically, all the sdr low tiers ruin the playstyle that ppl have developed, so no one wants to play them. i think it's a good concept, but the changes were too drastic and make most not want to play it.
yeah, simna took 13th at evo 2007 (corneria was legal lmao). he's killed me on netplay a ridiculous amount of times, has been playing since the game came out and competitively since 2003, and has a deep, deep grasp of what ness can do.
mofo is a legend of a ness. watch this set: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbq...n7QS1SqkkfsCA&index=78&ab_channel=WyntonSmith pay attention to 5:46 and 7:15. it's my favorite set ever, probably
vrud i haven't seen much of, but he's the second best i think? he's really good and i need to look into him more
LeifEriksson
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No, it shouldn't work as far as I'm aware. Of course, you can pick up a 3rd party wireless adapter that converts the GC controller to a classic controller.
Vegerot
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I second this query. Does anybody know of a mod that does this in 20xx?
Quillion, the post you linked to doesn't even work in 20xx 4.05.
In 20xx 3.02, nothing happens.
In 20xx 4.05, the game crashes. I wanted to be punished more for missing an L-Cancel, but making my game crash is too much.
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Doq
Smash Lord
Yes it does, but only on Nintendont i.e. it's not going to work like actual ports.