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The 2006-2008 Tier list

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Endless Nightmares

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G&W's only problem matchups are the three high-tier characters: Marth, Peach, and Sheik. In order from hardest to not as hard.
 

REDRAGON

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G&W's only problem matchups are the three high-tier characters: Marth, Peach, and Sheik. In order from hardest to not as hard.
And there are TONS of Marths and Sheik at tourney's......even Peach is pretty popular...
Down with G&W!!!!
 

mood4food77

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i think g&w gives mario trouble, but not doc

he's so glitchy with dthrows

roy also does better against a lot of the upper tier characters than g&w does
 

mood4food77

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about the same, roy's reach makes him better against sheik

he also does much better on marth than g&w does
 

Rx-

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I love the descriptiveness of the person typing that blog. It makes you feel like your watching the game.
 

mood4food77

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they both can **** each other

fox can still infinite marth i think (like that double wavedash thing)
 

StripesOrBars

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they both can **** each other

fox can still infinite marth i think (like that double wavedash thing)
There are 4 key factors in the Marth/Fox match up.

Grab game/Gimp kills/edgegaurding/Camping

If Fox gets a grab, he gets 1 to 3 uairs on Marth.

If Marth gets a grab it leads to death.

Marth 1 Fox 0

Fox kills at 0% Marth Kills Fox at 0%, but Fox is a definite kill with his shine.

Marth 1 Fox 1

The edgegaurding game has no need to be discussed.

Marth 2 Fox 1

Camping is where the match can either break even or Marth can take it home.

Yeah, Fox can run around and rack 80% in lasers damage. But when the time comes to end Marth's stock with an attack(upsmash or grab upthrow upair most likely), chances are that Marth will grab Fox and Fox will die.

Marth can also semi camp Fox to.

Marth and Fox is stage dependent, either Marth wins the match up or its even.
 

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Hey, remember that time where PC chris ***** m2k's marth via edge guarding at like, that REALLY big/recent tournament?

Fox >>>>> marth.

Even if you grant marth instant death from a grab, the match is still in fox's favor. I'm not entirely sure why you say that if fox approaches marth that he is almost guaranteed a grab. To say that Marth has an advantage on fox is just stupid really.

You're post is biased and inaccurate.
 

Brookman

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you say that as if m2k had been 4 stocking him, when all their sets have been close and come to split second decisions at the end of matches. Also, PC 3-0'd m2k in winners finals at FC with falco, so I guess falco > marth > fox.
 

Brookman

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No, I was just pointing out that Fox can edge guard marth just as easily as marth can edge guard fox, nice try at twisting my words though.
 

StripesOrBars

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No, I was just pointing out that Fox can edge guard marth just as easily as marth can edge guard fox, nice try at twisting my words though.
Eh, not really. Marth FSmash>Fox's Shine for edgeguarding n00b.

And Cort, Pc and Milftea got 5th at OC.

My gf destroryed milk with her marth and my gf doesnt L cancel.

Looks like PC is a one man team.
 

Brookman

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if you don't have any other points to make than I win at universes.

Mew2king has definitely brought marth to a new level of gayness
 

ZoSo

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Hey, remember when Cort played the best player from Florida in tournament and lost?

Yeah, me neither.
 

ZoSo

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Pound 2:

Details for Cort

Match results
Winners' bracket
Defeated Dot_Eater
Defeated XHayatoX
Defeated DaShizWiz
Lost to Jiano

Losers' bracket
Lost to TAJ278

Oops.
 

Brookman

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Brookman, you did say that "fox >>>>> marth", which does seem like you're saying fox has a large advantage...

Isn't it a slight advantage, if not even?
I was exagerating fox's advantage, I will admit that. Also, I do recall that time that cort played the best player from florida and didn't lose, but I am not sure what that has to do with anything. Though more than likely when he did play said person he lost.

Also, remember that time Chu beat m2k @ pound 2? I guess ICs > falco (</>sheik?)> marth > peach

Remember that time PC chris lost to i'vejihadit and some other random person in 2 v 1 @ pound 2?
 

Cort

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I'm so tired of seeing your posts.

I'll money match you for any amount if you ever get your poor ass out of Florida. But it seems you're too busy getting out placed by the amazing "Skrach", "Derf", "TheLaw", and "Otru" and placing horribly at your pathetic local FL tournaments. I've already defeated Shiz in tournament and KeepSpeedN in pools, and they're both some of the nicest guys I've ever met. It's such a shame FL gets such a horrible rep cause of inbred idiots like you that just like to cause unnecessary trouble.

If you ever get your head out of your ass and realize that you're horrible at this game and don't know **** about matchups, let me know. I'm done with you.

To stay on topic, none of the top 4 characters "****" each other. They can, but in general the matchup is fairly even. Certain matchups have already been discussed about a billion times before where obviously one character has an advantage, but it's not ever ****.
 

REDRAGON

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they both can **** each other

fox can still infinite marth i think (like that double wavedash thing)
Its a really close battle but but if one has the advantage its Marth
EDIT: Cort who were you yelling at???
55-45 marth advantage
 

StripesOrBars

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Lol @ Cort.

I never said I was good. I'm actually horrible.

And LOL @ Fl best being Shiz, that's Tommy Tip.

All I said was the obvious about the Fox/Marth matchup.

The Brook(***)man(who is also horrendous at this game) has to make stupid comments about all of my posts when I'm only trying to state what I know from watching top players vids.

So **** off East coast butt buddies.

Edit: And Cort got lucky VS Shiz.
 

Cort

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I 2 stocked Shiz on his counterpick where nothing gay happened.

The first game was pretty funny as you might have heard, but it was really just me accidentally moving closer to him than I should have in the first place. I unintentionally moved into his spike that happened to be a phantom, my spacing is just that amazing.

I never said Shiz was the best in FL. And didn't Tipman retire like 3 times now?

Also, Sheik ***** herself in dittos.
 

Brookman

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All I was saying is that what you know from watching top players is wrong, unless you are talking about the top players vs. one another, and not the character match ups, but since you said that marth > fox then you are talking about the match ups using the keen insight required to see m2k's marth beat pc's fox in several close sets. In other words, when m2k beats pc's fox while using marth does not make one character better than the other
 

mood4food77

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falco ***** fox at some points, just fox is completely ghey (shine spikes off the stage)

marth can **** fox, fox can **** marth

every character can put the **** on...just some can do it easier XD
 

StripesOrBars

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Marth beats Fox on some stages and it's even on others.

If you don't agree with me, don't bash my state.

And if you do bash my state, then LOL, because that's something that I'd do and I find it funny..

And Cort I was J/king about you beating shiz mistakenly.

Shiz=Black

No johns

edit: and ZoSo is very good at deepthroating peach players.

No johns ZoSo.
 

Brookman

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A few things:

I don't agree with you, but there is no point in discussing.

I never bashed your state.

Why aren't you banned again?
 
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