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that feeling that you've hit your limit as a player

Rubyiris

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Now that I'm finally somewhere where I'm not playing badly, I'm starting to notice that I'm just not as fast, or as smart as a lot of players. It started to make me wonder if I've just hit the end of my rope. I can still improve on my fundamentals as a player, improve efficiency, improve my spacing, and match ups, but it feels like that because I'm slower than the average Smasher, and that I'm not the sharpest knife, that I don't have the tools necessary to really become a notable player outside of my region. Even within my region, Im still obviously a cut below our notable players.

Anyone feel this way as well?

:phone:
 

t3h Icy

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Is this when you turn into a super villian and only Jesiah can save us?
 

SFA Smiley

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Although I play a less technical game, there have been points where I have felt like this, because I progress at an extremely slow rate. I've gotten better, yeah, but I'm still really inconsistent and losing to people I shouldn't at locals and there have been people in the scene for a shorter time than I have that outplace me on a regular basis. It's sorta annoying yeah but I just... keep playing.

Maybe 'm in the same boat as you and refuse to accept it, but I don't feel like I do. I watch TAS videos and it shows me where the skill ceiling can go and I am just reminded that I can always get better. I do feel though that there is a natural ability aspect that comes into play but i think anyone can get there we just have to work harder than people who are naturals
 

Sinji

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I felt the same way back in 2011 when everyone in my region quit smash, but then I went to Apex 2012 and got a lot of experience from top players and learned new match ups like the Ice climbers match up, (thanks Woobles for playing me for almost two hours, I appreciate it). I lost didn't even make it out of first round pools. I got *****. When I got back home, my friend told me about this venue where they play melee competitively and i went and it was my first time playing a good Ganondorf. But their are times when I feel like iv'e reached my peak level, like how i am the best in my region. I don't try to look at that aspect often and try to focus on trying new things with my main. Age is another aspect people look at that makes us wonder if we have reached our peak. We either have college or work and we don't have much time to practice like we used to. You may also feel a way when you knew how to wavedash for a long time but joined Smash world forums late (example, me learning how to wavedash in 2006 bbut joined 2010). I feel the same at times Rubyiris, but I try to focus on what I'm doing wrong and better myself because I know that I can do much better then what I'm doing right now.
 

Mahie

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I prefer the feeling when you break that limit.

Also no offense, because I don't know you, but I bet if you didn't create these threads (I've seen a few from you on the same topic), and practiced instead, you wouldn't feel the same.
 

MikeHaggarTHAKJB

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yhea. just take a break and relax for 2-3 weeks, and reenter the game with a more relaxed and less competitive attitude, and maybe play around more with other characters. suddenly you'll start doing **** you never knew you could, and you will naturally become more competitve.
 

Divinokage

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Rubyiris! Let's see you grit those teeeeeeth!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCESRDPZXRs
I fully agree with this punch, the more you think about your fails.. the more you will fail. All you gotta do is kick people's ***** and find all the keys necessary to do it. You can no longer worry about yourself at top level, you have a strong opponent in front of you, worry about him.
 

KrIsP!

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To quote hugs
"The negative aspects of a mentality probably give players the most amount of trouble in all stages of skill. The noobies reach mental points where they feel they will never be truly good"

Not that he'd be calling you a noob but just keep practicing, because there is no limit. And really, as long as you enjoy playing this game ther eshould be no reason to be sad.
 

Archangel

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I stopped playing from Feb. 11th to March 29th. After warming up I never felt or played better. I have still been watching videos(and creating some). Sometimes you can improve more by stepping away from the game for a little.
 

Rubyiris

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If making these threads didn't help, I wouldn't keep making them tor various different aspects of the game as I hit problems I'm not able to overcome on my own.

I took a two week break, it didn't really help at all. In fact I'm fairly certain I would have been better off playing those two weeks. Playing secondaries has been a way for me to relax and open my mind as early as 2006, and I still do to this day.

@the super villain comment: if I stop playing, I'll likely become a dedicated t.o.

One last thing: I practice a fair amount, at least an hour a day, usually broken up in two sessions, and I dmash with locals a few times a week. I make these threads Typically at night, or during downtime after a smash session with thoughts fresh in my mind. "Just practice" isn't the end all, and I've been playing since 05. I'm not a new player.

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Massive

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Maybe try not making these threads every time you have a bit of self doubt?

I mean, obviously these repeated attempts at compliment fishing and sympathy garnering continue to be ineffective. Nobody will likely tell you anything you haven't already heard in one of the other occasions you've posted basically the same thing.

I'm not trying to be mean, but I can't think of a way to finish this sentence without actually being mean, jerk.
 

Battlecow

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I guess practice smarter and not harder? Maybe go in on the whole lean thing. You've probably already thought of that, but, y'know, give it a serious whirl if you haven't yet.

Or maybe you have hit your limit as a player. I don't think that's impossible at all; not everyone can be great.

And yeah, I've often felt the same way (in 64, that is). I always break past it though.
 

Dr Peepee

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You need direction for improvement. Figure out what you can work on and work on it.
This is partly where critiques come in because that's when other people help give you direction. I'll critique your stuff soonish hopefully.

On another note, it's probably better for you to work this stuff out on your own when you think of it. Realistically, you will look and see yourself as less than other players if you choose to quit thinking about yourself as someone who is improving or trying to improve. It's better to discard those thoughts in favor of what you can do to make yourself a better player. You should only seriously worry if you've been actively trying to improve for months and haven't gotten very far, which hasn't been your case at all.
 

Armada

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Yeah like PP said direction can be really usefull. Something I have been notice for a long time now is that many people are doing the same things with for example falco (can be any char) as Mango/PP and Im not saying it is wrong. Takeing inspiration from 2 great players are not bad but I feel a lot of people learn some of those stuff but don't understand why it is good.

Don't know if you feel that's your case but it maight be something worth working on.
 

Rubyiris

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Maybe try not making these threads every time you have a bit of self doubt?

I mean, obviously these repeated attempts at compliment fishing and sympathy garnering continue to be ineffective. Nobody will likely tell you anything you haven't already heard in one of the other occasions you've posted basically the same thing.

I'm not trying to be mean, but I can't think of a way to finish this sentence without actually being mean, jerk.
I'm not fishing for complements broski. If that's what you think this is, just stop. You're mistaken.

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