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Who would this even imply, Lloyd? Am not familiar with namco IP
True enough, I suppose we really need more information to project further with this angle, there's little telling what a new creative lead would give us.
Yeah it really doesn't. You never really know. I'd rather take the chance and fail then not do anything at all.
It's hard to say at this point. We don't know anything about the game other than they started production on said project 3 years ago like
Tortilla Noggin
brought to our attention earlier. I am sure they as developers do hold a sense of pride over assault as it is one of their games. My question is will they be in the running of making a new Star Fox game in the future with Platinum and Q-games?True... that is ultimately what it would come down to.
I would absolutely love to see what Namco could do, continuing on from Star Fox Assault, with modern design sensibilities. Whilst the on-foot sections (the game's only particularly finnicky point) haven't aged especially well, they were fine at the time, after all.
Yeah and like I said earlier... I've yet to be disappointed in a game that they as a company have put out... I am sure it would be great!
I enjoyed the concept of the ground segments, I just felt like they needed some better work put into them and perhaps not make them so tedious, Starfox needs to keep it's fast pace in my opinion. Quicker ground play with an over the shoulder cam or first person with some awesome ground weapons would have made it much cooler. Assault is one of my favorite games of all time and would really enjoy anything made on that inspiration, provided Krystal got proper treatment. Like the hunt and kill these objects aspect got worse as it goes on for those, it should be a single target. I just don't suspect they'd go back to the franchise, and that Q-games has active interest in the series, Plat did have interest though I don't know if they still have the meager sales figures of Zero. We'll see what's next, Hell Miyamoto is nintendo's "Creative Fellow" it'd be hilarious if he made character choices for smash.
I have no concerns at all, because Kimishima had already said before that that there are more unannounced Switch titles still to be revealed. Since this was said during Nintendo's recent financial briefing, I assume that this refers to the 2017 fiscal-year.
I could easily be mistaken, but my understanding was that Sakurai wouldn't have included Pac-Man if they had insisted on that design, not that they actually did suggest it.
Well I'd still be wary of changes regardless of who is at the reigns. Krystal has changed from every version. And no one to this day knows where her staff even went, which was one of my main draws to the character. A quick and agile staff wielding psychic, two of my favorite things in one character? yes plz! I don't really like the slow style that Palutena uses. I tried to get used to it but it never really did it for me.
I do remember him saying that. It's just with Mario Odyssey in the Fall I guess that would leave a Winter game and another game in the Summer possibly? I just don't know how much that they can really reveal with all these limited slots in the year left, so I will likely remain skeptical.
Please god no. Knowing him he'd cut half the female roster and the rest would only be playable if you rescue them in "damsel-in-distress mode"
Personally, I'm indifferent to Krystal being in Smash, but I think what you just said is a big part of the reason why she's unlikely to ever be in the game.
Wouldn't all they'd have to do then is remove the references to magic? Telepaths exist in other sci-fi media like Star Trek and such so that can be easily explained, and the staff can be changed to be more futuristic and less magical.
I think they'd just be better off ditching the staff entirely. Staffs are a primitive and ineffective weapon that make no sense in a sci-fi setting when people are bombarding you with lasers and nova bombs.
Ditching the staff kit eliminates her smash chances, people like her for her kit potential, having magic in a sci-fi universe means nothing as they are both fantasy with minor distinctions. Krystal was a Telepath in both command and assault so that's not going anywhere regardless of what we think. It's throughly possible the staff won't show up in the series and I could see not representing the game properly as a decent point. But you can argue that for smash 64 with Fox, there's no ground foot combat anywhere in the story, only on multiplayer with a bulky over the shoulder cannon, not a small blaster and the reflector isn't there. I could expand further with the fact that FE characters or Pokemon characters are turn-based combat and their appearence isn't representative either. Their kits are merely inspired by their abilities in their respective games.
That's not true at all. Sci-fi and fantasy are vastly different genres. The proof is in the name "sci-fi", or "SCIENCE fiction". It is a genre that is meant to extrapolate and expand upon what sort of things are theoretically possible with futuristic science. The whole basis of the genre is to think about what would happen with sufficiently advanced technology that is still based in reality. This is completely different from fantasy which is entirely make-believe.
You're not getting the point. The point is that all of that feasibly exists within Star Fox's universe because it is a sci-fi universe with all manner of futuristic weaponry. Personal shield generators, lasers, and jetpacks are all fair game because they're all technologically feasible, and do exist in the story of the games (check the expanded lore of the series). Magic is not something that exists in the series period, either from a gameplay or story standpoint, and was only included in Adventures because of a last-second decision to make the game Star Fox-related. Therefore Nintendo is unlikely to give Krystal a moveset based on magic, which otherwise doesn't exist in the Star Fox universe, because it would severely misrepresent the series. Star Fox is not Zelda.
A minor distinction, the science in science fiction is all untested science and are often based on fringe scientific ideas, fantasy but regardless, Starfox Adventures IS a starfox game, so that games "magic" is a part of the universe. Ignoring it serves to inject a curious bias into your argument. Magic itself is simply unexplained acts, giving them a scientific basis is plenty to move it to the "science" fiction realm. Psychics are basically science mages.
Ditch the staff? but it's so cool.
No, see, you're the one demonstrating bias. "Magic" is by definition something so extraordinary or abnormal that it suggests powers which violate the laws of nature and science. It's literally the opposite of science, and doesn't really have a place in a sci-fi series like Star Fox. Theoretical/"untested" science is still based in science, which makes it different from fantasy which has no basis on ANYTHING but imagination. Since Star Fox is supposed to be a pure sci-fi series it makes no sense for Nintendo to include a character that would blur that image and make it difficultt to market.
Alright, sure. But I think it'd be better if she had some Assault weaponry. The over-the-shoulder blaster could be a nice weapon.
I created a kit that includes her assault weapons with her Staff, they can work in tandem, it just should be Staff-focused. Without her staff she's a weak choice as a fighter and you can mark my words that she would not be a fighter. Okay so I googled magic and it looks like the definition changed from the last time I searched. Adventures happening is still plenty to suggest magic can exist in the series and further still you can simply turn it into sci-fi by explaining it, it takes no real effort. Her staff kit is the only reason she gained momentum outside of her fanbase. There's no telling even how the next game will play even, Starfox is an unpredictable franchise as it's history has shown. If her staff is excluded it will backfire, So it's Staff or bust.
Metroid's Chozo are telepathic and metroid is all Sci-fi too
Oh she could definitely have some Assault weaponry mixed in too to make it not just a pure staff moveset. Grenades as aerial projectiles, Gatling Gun and over-the-shoulder Blaster as smash attacks, they got plenty to work with.
this is a pretty great middle ground argument I support this. While i basically love staves because of her the core focus is on her kit simply being new and different, There's quite a lot they can do with Krystal and there's two companies interested in Starfox potentially, that is If plat is still interested after the poor sales.
Palutena isn't a staff fighter, she's a mage with a magic rod. The weapon is technically the same but the ethos behind its implementation is utterly different.
Still sucks that she got in as the magic staff wielder, it's hardly even in a dent in her uniqueness though, Krystal would likely have competitive viability, because she'll have good range and high speed, her combo ability could be pretty high aswell as the Staff had a small combo system in Adventures among the general abilities of her being a fast fighter. Palutena is clunky and apparently even Sakurai had a ahrd time using her as he described in about character balancing. Which I personally found weird, if he didn't understand how to play the character who's kit he likely made then isn't it bad? Dunno what all happened there.
Hold on what? why does this exist? i guess the Palutena taking krystal's spot thing ended up with art.
Most of the stuff in adventures was magic, and infact the manual actually expliclity calls it "Krystal's Magical Staff" http://www.gamesdatabase.org/Media/...l/formated/Star_Fox_Adventures_-_Nintendo.pdf Though it received an upgrade developed by Slippy which means that it can handle custom upgrades, IE the sharpclaw disguise
I blame @jahkzheng
Ahhh hahahah. I've seen that before... that's a classic!
People think Palutena is a staff user like Krystal? Have they actually played Smash 4? She uses her staff as an actual weapon for like 3 attacks. It's mostly used as a conduit for her Goddess of Light powers.
That's for sure lol How many different swords do we have now? We've got
lol I was about to say something about the swords as well, But you even know all their names. My hats off to you, sir!
Let's us know when you get those new videos, it's pretty funny there's actually more discussion in the general thread about Krystal than they're is in the Krystal thread right now, seems others are still interested in our fair blue vixen.
It's ok man. I hope you're having fun in Florida! We will keep doing what we can to keep her going strong! And yeah definitely let us know when you get those videos to post at. We got your back!
That's funny I was actually reading that today. It's refreshing to see how many people are actually interested in the possibility of seeing Krystal in smash.
Oh yeah I'm familiar with that patch! It sits by my statue of Fox. For Krystal maybe it would have her spiral in gold and a blue border? Or blue with a white spiral. Or you can put her staff on it. A Krystal patch is a good idea.
