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Foxes are curious after all.
Definitely agree. Having a character be both an Assist Trophy and a playable character, even if they're not on stage at once, would be awkward and unnecessary when I'm sure it would be easier anyway for the developers to just get rid of the Assist Trophy.
Plus, Krystal already has hitboxes
Ok, so maybe using Ratholos as an example was a bad thought on my part. Lol
This is a very much welcomed breath of fresh air compared to her being an AT in SSB: Ultimate. However, it still stings that this will probably never happen in said SSB: Ultimate unless Sakurai “magically” decides to remove an AT and promote it to a Fighter.
Which considering the pool of potential viable fighters, popular ones, no less, has gotten a lot more shallow, is not as impossible as you may think,
well there's a perspective here that I'd like to throw in here, realistically most of these characters have no reason to be reconsidered during that cycle, anything that appears as a trophy will have some kind of following to be made playable, but strategically there picking out characters that have some notable purpose, they're either insanely, tip-top popular, or they can continue to make them money, Krystal was likely made to be only an assist because of the lack of a Star Fox game, especially since she hasn't show up in some time, So that the game coming out, combined with the general lack of good characters to choose from will help get her in.
Well spank my ass and call me sally, george and gerome all at once, I never expected her to get into SSF2, it's funny to have her all at once, a mugen fighter, an AT and in SSF2, truly remarkable, especially since SSF2 is the biggest fangame currently supported, hopefully it won't go un-noticed.
Congrats on having her in SSF2! I know it isn't Ultimate but it's pretty cool that she is playable in two fan games Crusade and SSF2.
If I had to guess, King K. Rool probably placed within the Top 5 or Top 3, with the only characters I can see definitely placing above him being Wolf and maybe Snake. I think it's inspiring. The idea of a character's community coming together so strongly as to possibly send reverberations through Nintendo. King K. Rool may be the face of the idea right now, but surely he wasn't the only one to do it. I think King K. Rool's appearance in Smash is the first of many, and I think the same can be said for Krystal.
Yeah, only three of Star Fox's five stages are returning.
I honestly don't care what outfit she wears, (except Command) I'll be happy with her in the game playable
Besides, doesn't Sakurai generally go for the character's first/earliest look whenever possible? It just so happens that Adventures was her first appearance.
fr, I hate that design tbh, the assault design is better in every way
I remember making a moveset for her that had an Adventures Stance with the staff and an Assault Stance with guns and what not. I think it's posted early on in this thread somewhere.
At least Miyu and Fay already come with standard issue uniforms. Krystal's case is mostly due to circumstance, since Dinosaur Planet wasn't supposed to be a SF game.Well Mario and Luigi debuted in their inverted overalls, Kirby started out as a white puffball and Wario debuted in his overalls yet his Ware outfit is the default.
In seriousness, besides preferring the Star Fox uniforms, it’s mostly just cause the furry stereotypes don’t go worse than usual.
that and we don’t get a higher rating then T
I have to say reading stuff like this really makes it feel like everyone here (and anyone supporting their most wanted character) is making a big difference that can really influence whether a character gets in by showing their support, whether by communicating with each other on forums or social media, or by posting their support or appreciation for a character through a message or piece of art, so thanks for sharing this thread post as it really is an encouraging and motivating read.
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You forgot to mention that Krystal has been recently confirmed as a playable character in Super Smash Flash 2 which is one of the most popular fan made Smash games. Even though it’s not Ultimate it still is something to be happy about. (As a side note here’s to hoping that Sakurai might have took notice of Krystal being added to Super Smash Flash 2. Unlikely yes, but who knows.)I have to say reading stuff like this really makes it feel like everyone here (and anyone supporting their most wanted character) is making a big difference that can really influence whether a character gets in by showing their support, whether by communicating with each other on forums or social media, or by posting their support or appreciation for a character through a message or piece of art, so thanks for sharing this thread post as it really is an encouraging and motivating read.
I'll be honest over the past few years since the announcement of SF Zero (aside from the months leading up to E3) and especially right after the E3 direct I didn't feel there was much going for Krystal and that she may sadly be put aside by Nintendo for good, but I feel that's really changed since seeing the support she still receives online despite not being playable this time around, thanking Nintendo and Sakurai for her inclusion and stating their continued desire to one day have her as a playable fighter. That in addition to the release of Starlink where she may still make some kind of appearance, and the potential for the SF GP game to still be be true which would likely both include her and bring her back into the series long term, still gives me hope that every little bit of support people provide for her does make a difference and just makes a comeback appearance just that little bit more likely. I hope people still feel encouraged to show their support as I feel it really does act as a motivator for other people to do the same and could one day even lead to the desired outcome becoming a reality (this year especially seems to be the best year for her in terms of recognition in years which makes me very happy
I figure that the Star Fox 2 gals would be likelier to get the DLC treatment. The best thing to do for her is advertise her positively during post-Ultimate periods, and be more civilized than the crazier Waluigi fans.
Have those gals been talked about much?
Not too much, but ProfessorFandango himself briefly humoured the likelihood of their inclusion.
seeing as Sakurai claims they don't pre-plan DLC, I'd say this has a chance and honestly something I'd say is higher than some might expect. As I've chanted a near infinite amount of times it feels, we just need a game to come out with her in it, Which I still feel is going to happen soon enough for DLC.
Sorry to burst your bubble, Miyu and Fay stand statistically no chance of being in Smash, They're not profitable for nintendo, they aren't popular, Your best bet is if Grand Prix pans out, they become playable off a whim by someone in Retro and to enjoy them there.
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that I would show you guys the finished product. It was done by Blackbear972, the same guy who's working on the SF Adventures comic that's already been shared here.
Didn't forever take like 13 years or something? That's a lot more than the supposed 4 years that retro would have been working on for GP, It sounds kinda ridiculous to me that someone as talented as Retro would need 4 years to work on a starfox game, maybe they were working on some other title, it bombed and they retooled into GP, I know that a handful of games died in the creation of Metroid Prime so maybe it's something like that.
The starfox series has been declining in sales since 64, yet they kept making games, I would have shelved it after Assault if I were nintendo, but they went to make command, 64 3D, and Zero. I think Miyamoto will keep churning it out, especially with his post-zero statement. It makes sense honestly, He gave Retro donkey kong, and that turned out quite well, even though it was miyamoto's "baby" and was concerned about how it would turn out, so Starfox is in dire need of assistance, so he pops it over to Retro, he's impressed aswell with the Mario+Rabbids concept of a genre swap so they do something like that for SF, I'd have to agree, it's do or die for the franchise, even with Miyamoto's senior influence. Personally I'd be satisfied with her being in GP with atleast decent character handling and her getting in smash on a playable level in Ultimate, I suspect the game will sell fairly well, but who knows if it'll be enough to really continue, only time will tell.
Retro has this habit of cramming in as many polygons as possible when making their games (their DKC ones are typically more detailed than the Prime trilogy for that reason, if you can believe that), so they're quiet until new projects are ready to release. If they're making a new DKC on top of Star Fox, we'll be lucky if it won't take 8 years.
Yeah completely forgot about that title, thanks for the reminder. I have to admit now that she's been included I'm very interested in trying it out for myself as I wasn't aware of the first game very much until recently. As you say for the time being its something to keep people happy about and could potentially show how she may play if she makes a playable appearance in the future. It may be a long shot in convincing Sakurai to include her by itself alone, but every bit of support goes a long way (especially one which pays tribute to the series we're supporting her inclusion for) , and in the long term it should hopefully keep people motivated to continue supporting her as well as maybe get more people interested in her character. As always you can never really tell what the future holds, but it never hurts to have a bit of optimism and show even just a little bit of support
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