Team Star Fox call in Krystal for Smash!

[TheRandomCities4]

Hey, everyone.

I made a short survey asking for opinions in regards to a new Star Fox game. I've been talking a lot about Star Fox on SmashBoards recently, and it's been building up to this. The survey is only 20 questions long, and I plan on spreading it a bit through SmashBoards and Reddit. Hoping to get as much participation as I can.

If you're interested, here's a link: Star Fox Survey

I'd post it in the Wolf Support thread, but I can't, since I'd be double-posting...

I took it just now.

You'll probably know which response is mine, because it has a small essay response for the last question. ;D
Old habits die hard, I suppose...

 

[AlphaSSB]

Done. I definitely wish I had a say in the direction of the series, because I firmly disagree with Miyamoto (and, considering how poorly Zero did, I'm not the only one). I see this franchise having the potential of becoming something akin to a space opera, and Miyamoto is not doing the series any favors in that regard.

EDIT: One of the biggest strengths I found in Assault was the story, worldbuilding and character development. Wolf went from just a douchey rival to an antihero who actually can find it within himself to help out Fox if the need arises. I found myself actually caring about Corneria getting invaded this time when the Aparoids forced you to fight General Pepper. I actually gave a damn about the dinosaurs from Adventures when they were threatened with extinction. Not to mention, the Aparoids came from a distant homeworld outside of the Lylat system, opening up the possibility for other solar systems to visit, other villains, intergalactic wars and so much more.

Thank-you for taking it.

I have mixed views with Miyamoto. On one hand, I feel that he's a big contributing factor to some of the problems Star Fox has right now. On the other, if Miyamoto retired, I don't know if we'll ever see Star Fox again. It'd be nice to see him taking a supportive position, but not a producer. Results currently show a near-even split between keeping him, not keeping him, and not caring either way.

I took it just now.

You'll probably know which response is mine, because it has a small essay response for the last question. ;D
Old habits die hard, I suppose...

Thank-you as well for taking it. I'll keep my eyes open. There's a lot of fluff with the 'Extra Thoughts' section because I unintentionally had it marked as required for the first 30-40 entries.

 

[Sage of Ice]

hnnn i wanna replay Assault but my Wii has trouble reading discs, especially Gamecube ones. poor thing's on its way out, i think...

AlphaSSB just out of curiosity, how many people have taken that survey by now? :O

 

[AlphaSSB]

hnnn i wanna replay Assault but my Wii has trouble reading discs, especially Gamecube ones. poor thing's on its way out, i think...

AlphaSSB just out of curiosity, how many people have taken that survey by now? :O

As of this post, 131.

Survey has been up for about 2 hours and 45 minutes.

 

[Deleted member]

Hey, everyone.

I made a short survey asking for opinions in regards to a new Star Fox game. I've been talking a lot about Star Fox on SmashBoards recently, and it's been building up to this. The survey is only 20 questions long, and I plan on spreading it a bit through SmashBoards and Reddit. Hoping to get as much participation as I can.

If you're interested, here's a link: Star Fox Survey

I'd post it in the Wolf Support thread, but I can't, since I'd be double-posting...

Its incredibly pleasing and encouraging to see that so many people have replied to your survey, I'm curious as to whether you plan to publish the results of this at some point or maybe send it to Nintendo as I'm really curious to see the general consensus people have in terms of the direction of the story/ gameplay/characters they'd like to see in a future title. I personally believe Assault would probably be the best game to take inspiration from due to it building upon and improving the excellent gameplay seen in Star Fox 64 whilst having an epic storyline which really made you care about the characters and what happened to them, and could even act as a potential prelude to a new title. I feel that so long as the series doesn't rely solely on SF64's foundations in the future like Zero did then it'll give the series a chance to grow and hopefully allow its popularity to be revitalised in time.

 

[IanTheGamer]

Done, I said a longer more story driven game with Transforming Arwings, Blue Marines, and on foot gameplay, there's a lot of unanswered questions in the series that need to be resolved (i.e What was Cerinia like? How did Fox and Falco meet?). Miyamoto should have as little involvement in the series as possible, if we have to have be involved in the project, put him in a role where he has little influence , Zero's failure can solely be placed on him

 

[verysleepywolf]

I've always liked the idea of Krystal with her staff. The prospect of a SF character with a fresh moveset is very enticing.

I don't think Krystal is important enough in her own franchise to warrant inclusion, Zero solidifying this. Wolf returning is already a question and Sakurai has expressed that he doesn't necessarily want to cut anybody because of fan disappointment, so no doubt priority would be placed on Wolf returning over making Krystal. And I just don't see Wolf and Krystal both happening because of the current slump this franchise is stuck in, and honestly Wolf alone doesn't seem very likely to me either for the same reason. I feel terrible for SF fans about Wolf already, but I sympathize even more for Krystal fans because she is such a great choice.

 

[ArcaneKitsune]

Hey, everyone.

I made a short survey asking for opinions in regards to a new Star Fox game. I've been talking a lot about Star Fox on SmashBoards recently, and it's been building up to this. The survey is only 20 questions long, and I plan on spreading it a bit through SmashBoards and Reddit. Hoping to get as much participation as I can.

If you're interested, here's a link: Star Fox Survey

I'd post it in the Wolf Support thread, but I can't, since I'd be double-posting...

I completed your survey. Well done by the way. Taking the time to create this survey was a brilliant idea.

 

[MoonlitIllusion]

hnnn i wanna replay Assault but my Wii has trouble reading discs, especially Gamecube ones. poor thing's on its way out, i think...

AlphaSSB just out of curiosity, how many people have taken that survey by now? :O

Same here, I don't have my gamecube or wii anymore, let alone a copy of Assault and it goes for kinda high prices online (like £40-50) so I'm screwed haha.

 

[Gagnetar]

As of this post, 131.

Survey has been up for about 2 hours and 45 minutes.

I've taken the survey aswell, it's pretty well done with every noteworthy question people would have about SF in it.

Also great to see this thread can have good activity without me having to baby it, really helps prove that she has popularity to me. I haven't been posting much because I've been focused more on other IRL things and haven't felt i've been required, I've basically said and drained so many different things about Krystal that's there really almost nothing else I can say, but I'm still lurking about, hoping for some semi-realistic miracles for her inclusion.

Also Smokey sent me this https://gonintendo.com/stories/3079...e-details-on-switch-paid-online-service-in-ma

it's apparently early may aswell, maybe may 11th-13th? just a random guess but I'd love to see it drop some Virtual console announcement stuff, I mean they already dropped Smash on us ahead of E3 so I could see them doing that too. Just having something to get people to buy is pretty important for a characters chances I'd imagine.

 

[~Krystal~]

it's apparently early may aswell, maybe may 11th-13th? just a random guess but I'd love to see it drop some Virtual console announcement stuff, I mean they already dropped Smash on us ahead of E3 so I could see them doing that too. Just having something to get people to buy is pretty important for a characters chances I'd imagine.

Nintendo has already released HD revisions of Twilight Princess and Super Mario Galaxy for the NVIDIA Shield TV in China. The Shield and the Switch use the same chip, but there's differences in the overall hardware for both. This begs the question: is GameCube emulation possible on the Switch? A virtual console with a GameCube library would be a major announcement, and if that service does materialize, Assault becomes possible. Melee on the go becomes possible. You can see the commercial appeal. Nintendo wouldn't pass this up unless the Switch wasn't capable of running these games at consistent and smooth speeds. So many customers would be down for purchasing the digital downloads at a lower price point than the physical copies on the secondary market, so it would be a shame if Nintendo couldn't figure out a way to make it work. And the younger fans who don't have a GameCube sitting around? They're missing out! This hurts them too. Command was their only exposure to the modern Star Fox games thanks to the Wii U's eShop, and they haven't had a chance to play Adventures and Assault for themselves. Both are way better with controller in hand than watching them on a Youtube video.

 

[Deleted member]

Nintendo has already released HD revisions of Twilight Princess and Super Mario Galaxy for the NVIDIA Shield TV in China. The Shield and the Switch use the same chip, but there's differences in the overall hardware for both. This begs the question: is GameCube emulation possible on the Switch? A virtual console with a GameCube library would be a major announcement, and if that service does materialize, Assault becomes possible. Melee on the go becomes possible. You can see the commercial appeal. Nintendo wouldn't pass this up unless the Switch wasn't capable of running these games at consistent and smooth speeds. So many customers would be down for purchasing the digital downloads at a lower price point than the physical copies on the secondary market, so it would be a shame if Nintendo couldn't figure out a way to make it work. And the younger fans who don't have a GameCube sitting around? They're missing out! This hurts them too. Command was their only exposure to the modern Star Fox games thanks to the Wii U's eShop, and they haven't had a chance to play Adventures and Assault for themselves. Both are way better with controller in hand than watching them on a Youtube video.

You know if they did add GameCube games to the Switch I'd be curious to see whether they'd take the sales into consideration. It would be a great way to support franchises (beyond using social media) which haven't seen many recent releases and would maybe encourage Nintendo to look into whether it may be worth making another title for. Given how many years its been since something like F-Zero got a release, it'd allow many people who are fans of the series to show how much they enjoy it and wish to see it return.

I'd also be more than happy to double dip on the GameCube StarFox releases as well for the same reasons as they sadly seem to be forgotten titles compared to the earlier releases despite the quality they bring to the series. Having an episodic structure in Assault would be great for short bursts on the go (similarly to 64 3d) and Breath of the Wild showed that bigger adventure titles like SF Adventures can work even on handhelds too, so I feel both games would be great fits for the Switch whether played on the TV (imagine how great those titles would look with an HD upgrade) or on the go. I've considered doing it for Command to show any kind of support I can as it would be nice to own an extra copy anyway (and show some love for Command) though I worry it may fall on deaf ears as I dont know whether they track digital sales on their older consoles.

Come to think of it I wonder if any of the sales for virtual console titles have had any influence on bringing back older franchises. I think I remember hearing that the Sin and Punishment sequel that came out in 2010 was down to high consumer interest and sales from the original N64 title's re-release as part of the Hanabi Festival so if it worked then, then maybe it could work on the Switch as well.

 

[MetroLSD]

How high do you guys think Krystals odds of being in this game are?

 

[MoonlitIllusion]

How high do you guys think Krystals odds of being in this game are?

Not high, unless she somehow performed incredibly well on the ballot which I seriously doubt she did

 

[Guybrush20X6]

How high do you guys think Krystals odds of being in this game are?

Above average IMO but by no means a guarantee.

 

[Deleted member]

How high do you guys think Krystal's odds of being in this game are?

I'd say it could be somewhere around the 30-35% range. I wish I could say it was higher though several factors such as her recent lack of appearances, the performance of recent Star Fox titles, as well as Wolfs popularity and probable higher priority amongst Star Fox characters for appearing in Smash may hold back her chances. That said though, her potential for a completely unique fighting style, having a fairly sizeable online following, the amount of time since a new SF character was included and Sakurai's known interest in including her in the past (as well as the chance that she did quite well in the Smash ballot) could gain her some extra brownie points in terms of consideration for inclusion.

While I imagine there are a large amount of other characters who may seem like more likely candidates, she has been shown to have quite a supportive fan-base, and given the obscurity or surprise of some of the recent characters introduced into the series I feel that any Nintendo character (or feasible 3rd party character) has a chance at some point to make it in.

 

[AlphaSSB]

Krystal's chances? Not very likely.

Best think Krystal has going for her is how she did in the Ballot, which I'm sure she did decently well in. At that point maybe Sakurai will see her name and remember that he considered her once before due to fan demand, but just didn't go with her because Wolf was easier.

Seeing how Krystal was considered, I wonder how much Sakurai thought about how she'd work in Smash. We know he went with Wolf since he though that he'd be easier to make, but maybe he put a bit of thought into how each of them would play before coming to a decision. If so, maybe seeing Krystal's name will bring back some old ideas, if there were any.

 

[MetroLSD]

Sakurai's known interest in including her in the past

What? Source?

 

[AlphaSSB]

What? Source?

Here's an article from SourceGaming back from 2015, where Sakurai answered some questions in regards to Brawl sometime after it's release. First question asked was "Why did Wolf become a playable fighter, and not Krystal?"

 

[Sage of Ice]

Here's an article from SourceGaming back from 2015, where Sakurai answered some questions in regards to Brawl sometime after it's release. First question asked was "Why did Wolf become a playable fighter, and not Krystal?"

jesus, that last paragraph is a rough read. first he compares her to non-characters like waddle dee and dry bones, then he says we were only "lucky" enough to get wolf because he was easy to make. sure has a lot of love in his heart for star fox, doesn't he?

 

[ArcaneKitsune]

jesus, that last paragraph is a rough read. first he compares her to non-characters like waddle dee and dry bones, then he says we were only "lucky" enough to get wolf because he was easy to make. sure has a lot of love in his heart for star fox, doesn't he?

I don’t think Sakurai was trying to be rude in that reply, but rather honest. If you think about it the development team for Brawl wasn’t as nearly as big as the team he had for Smash Wii U/3DS. Also he was way more focused on the online play for Brawl during its development considering it was the most anticipated machanic during that era of Smash Bros.

 

[AlphaSSB]

jesus, that last paragraph is a rough read. first he compares her to non-characters like waddle dee and dry bones, then he says we were only "lucky" enough to get wolf because he was easy to make. sure has a lot of love in his heart for star fox, doesn't he?

That first part I wouldn't read too far into. The statement made towards Sakurai was "But we did get a lot of questions like, 'Why wasn’t Krystal a playable character?'" - I don't think Sakurai's response was comparing Krystal to Dry Bones. Rather, it's his way of addressing "Why wasn't X a playable character?". How asking questions in that vein, leads to a slippery slope. Start with legitimate characters, devolve into more questionable characters. Another way of phrasing it is "Answer one, answer them all."

And yeah, Wolf was a very lucky inclusion, believed to be the last character added in Brawl. I will say that I think his absence from Smash 4 left enough of a reaction for Wolf to make it in on Switch. Wouldn't be surprised if he missed the base roster again, only to be made the first DLC character as a 'safe pick' like how Mewtwo was.

 

[TheRandomCities4]

How high do you guys think Krystals odds of being in this game are?

I'd figure a 1-5% chance. Somewhere between "unusual" and "highly unusual", statistically speaking.

I wouldn't dare increase those chances unless something miraculous happens with Star Fox as a series and/or the Smash dev team happens to refer to the ballot--and that's only if Krystal actually performed well on it, which I heavily doubt.

 

[Deleted member]

jesus, that last paragraph is a rough read. first he compares her to non-characters like waddle dee and dry bones, then he says we were only "lucky" enough to get wolf because he was easy to make. sure has a lot of love in his heart for star fox, doesn't he?

To be honest I actually find it quite encouraging that he addresses her directly (though I suppose that's due to her being brought up directly in the question), showing that it is an idea he's considered in the past. Until reading that article I'd figured that she hadn't been considered much for the series due to being a more newly introduced character and therefore not as well known as many of the other lead characters at the time, which I thought meant she'd probably never be a top priority for consideration.

I suppose that as she was probably at the peak of her popularity during Brawls development having been in 3 titles over 4 years and receiving top billing in those games, this added some weight towards justifying her potential inclusion and would probably mean less now given how long its been since her last appearance. In my opinion however I always felt that Sakurai never really liked to cut characters he had considered and would always try and fit them in further down the line such as with Solid Snake if possible, and given how close she possibly came to being included (lack of time seemed to be the only thing holding back her inclusion),it doesn't seem to be out of the realm of possibly to me that she could squeeze in somehow as a potential surprise announcement later down the line.

 

[SEGAGameBoy]

I have to be honest. The only Star Fox game I have played is Star Fox 64 (N64). Add me to supporters, please.

 

[Gagnetar]

As we get closer to E3, rumors no doubt start to take surface. I've seen some false Star Fox rumors take hold but there's finally something that I'm interested in from Resetera

There's not many games it could really be, Star Fox is well known for experimentation, has a creator who wants to exert effort, one who was impressed with the Mario + Rabbids concept and is likely a game that really needs some mix-up to continue forward. Sounds like SF if you ask me. Nintendo hasn't forgotten the vixen, She's bound to show up, if this rumor pans out, her DLC chances would skyrocket if it was announced this E3, I remain cautiously optimistic as it could be completely wrong, or it could mystically not be SF and could be F-Zero or something, but It seems like a fitting idea, Miyamoto plays interestingly with Retro as they did well with his "baby" donkey kong, so maybe they have what it takes to fix his problem child?

 

[ryuu seika]

Captain Falcon side scrolling beat 'em up? The actual Diddy Kong Racing sequel everyone's been talking about?
Please let it be Diddy Kong Racing.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

As we get closer to E3, rumors no doubt start to take surface. I've seen some false Star Fox rumors take hold but there's finally something that I'm interested in from Resetera View attachment 143510 View attachment 143511

There's not many games it could really be, Star Fox is well known for experimentation, has a creator who wants to exert effort, one who was impressed with the Mario + Rabbids concept and is likely a game that really needs some mix-up to continue forward. Sounds like SF if you ask me. Nintendo hasn't forgotten the vixen, She's bound to show up, if this rumor pans out, her DLC chances would skyrocket if it was announced this E3, I remain cautiously optimistic as it could be completely wrong, or it could mystically not be SF and could be F-Zero or something, but It seems like a fitting idea, Miyamoto plays interestingly with Retro as they did well with his "baby" donkey kong, so maybe they have what it takes to fix his problem child?

Interesting.

If true it's a risky manoeuvre.
On the one hand going FPS worked great for Metroid, on the other hand going car builder went poorly for Banjo Kazooie

 

[Sage of Ice]

it says "old IP," does Star Fox really count? it's had a game in the last few years. unless that just means an IP that's been around a while, then it could be anything.

let the record show that my guess is Clu Clu Land Table Tennis

 

[SethTheMage]

Essentially what Sage of Ice said. The thing that gets me is the wording of "old" Nintendo IP. Does that just mean a longstanding franchise like SF, Zelda, and Mario, or does it mean one that hasn't done anything in a while? If it's the latter, then it likely wouldn't be SF, and rather something like F-Zero or Nazo no Murasame-Jou.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

it says "old IP," does Star Fox really count? it's had a game in the last few years. unless that just means an IP that's been around a while, then it could be anything.

let the record show that my guess is Clu Clu Land Table Tennis

At this point, Old IP is just about anything pre-Pokemon. Could be Captain Falcon getting an open world driving game, could be Takamaru CITY SIMULATOR for all we know.

 

[Sage of Ice]

Essentially what Sage of Ice said. The thing that gets me is the wording of "old" Nintendo IP. Does that just mean a longstanding franchise like SF, Zelda, and Mario, or does it mean one that hasn't done anything in a while? If it's the latter, then it likely wouldn't be SF, and rather something like F-Zero or Nazo no Murasame-Jou.

either way it doesn't immediately read as "Star Fox reinvented" to me. the actual mention of star fox by name in the bottom of the second screenshot has my interest, though.

 

[SethTheMage]

At this point, Old IP is just about anything pre-Pokemon. Could be Captain Falcon getting an open world driving game, could be Takamaru CITY SIMULATOR for all we know.

Takamaru City Simulator for GOTY

But, I'd be curious to see what genre they'd go for if these rumors are true and it turns out to be SF. We can rule out Action/Adventure because of Adventures. For me, it's a toss up between FPS, RTS, and RPG. Would be pretty interesting to see them expand the world and give the characters depth through an RPG setting.

 

[Gagnetar]

either way it doesn't immediately read as "Star Fox reinvented" to me. the actual mention of star fox by name in the bottom of the second screenshot has my interest, though.

From what I can tell, John Harker is listed because he knew the date of the January 11th Direct, what he actually says isn't particularly interesting
he doesn't seem to respond in detail but he might end up knowing things in second hand, Miyamoto has had external work on Star Fox before so it'd be easier to leak if anything was in development. Yea it could be any game, but there's alot of reasons it could be SF, a sudden retro-revival with a game style swap sounds pretty ambitious, To invest in dormant IP is to gamble on the game being interesting enough to suddenly grasp a completely new fanbase, yea you can do it and it could definitely work so I wouldn't rule it out. We'll see what happens this e3, and If we get a may direct because we've had one in may for like 4 years now. Anyhoo i'm pretty giddy about this and I'm interested to see if it goes anywhere.

 

[~Krystal~]

So a new game is on the horizon, huh? It might not be related to Emily's statement, but, there was this rumor on IGN that cropped up recently... It read like the ramblings of an optimistic guy with a healthy imagination. Didn't make a lot of sense given how hard Zero bombed and the complete radio silence since its release, but Emily's statement on reset is beginning to make me wonder if maybe there's some truth to it. You be the judge.

Spoiler

User: FluidlySolid

Retro are working on two games. Both will be shown at E3, one more than the other, though. However, there is a third project that is going on even further behind the scenes and I got no info on it other than that. Third project. Not two, but three.

The first game is called "Lylat System" and is a space/planet exploration set in the Star Fox franchise. Open world Star Fox game where you can free-roam around, you guessed it, the Lylat system.

Retro began real work on this game shortly after finishing DKCTF but at first, it wasn't a Star Fox game. Around 6 months before DKCT was wrapped up, their next game was being blueprinted and was supposed to be a realistic, seamless space-to-planet explorer. A totally new IP from Retro. But, Retro reached out to Nintendo about turning it into a Star Fox world, as they felt it suited the Star Fox franchise and characters better than what they were planning on doing initially, and Nintendo were impressed. Nintendo wants Star Fox to succeed and when Retro suggested the change in direction, they immediately liked it and it was green-lighted. So it became Lylat System. This is the one that will get the full reveal at E3 and the biggest Switch game of 2018.

Some hearsay points:

- Began in development early March 2014.
- Originally a Wii U game, was supposed to get a reveal trailer at E3 2016 and released summer 2017, but was held back, then moved over to Switch in late 2016 and delayed.
- This is not a first-person game.
- Playable at E3.
- You begin the game as Fox, but you can also play as Falco, Slippy and Peppy, plus others new to the world of Star Fox.
- Star Fox is not in the title of the game, as he is one of many playable characters, not the main focus. The real focal point here is the galaxy itself and what it holds... and what wants to rule it.
- Both Retro and Nintendo wanted to re-imagine the Star Fox franchise. So expect quite a difference and a big game. Not just change in resolution.
- You can choose to play through the game as any one character and get different cinematics, story telling, side quests and gear than other characters.
- Main story is in a nutshell the same for all characters, but point of view in cinematics and their importance in storytelling, and side-quests changes depending on who your current selected character is.
- Fox and co. get more powerful. They level up. More tools, weapons, gear, vehicles, clothing and armor. Stores and specialists scattered around the system.
- You can switch between characters at any time when docked to Great Fox, home base, outposts or space stations. The other characters follow you either on foot or in vehicles.
- Switching is real-time at these hub areas, so no long loading screens as the character specific content loading is cleverly hidden in these areas.
- You can give commands to your squad as a whole or select certain characters and give orders. If you are not playing as Fox, you might receive orders from him.
- Hubs are not far-between so you can change characters almost any time you see fit.
- Six or seven main planets, each has it's unique atmosphere, landscape, population, cities, towns, lore and danger.
- Explorable areas on these six main planets range from 15 square miles, up to around 60 square miles for the biggest one.
- There are smaller planets that players can explore too. These planets are much smaller in explorable areas, though the planets themselves are big, some parts are not reachable. Yet. Future DLC?
- There are not just planets to explore. Asteroid belts, abandoned space stations and space crafts, and more.
- Returning (controllable) vehicles: Arwing, Landmaster, Wolfen, Blue Marine
- New vehicles (not complete): Airbug (two-seater buggy with jet boosters to hover over land and water. Fast and agile, but low on weapons and vulnerable) - Dro-Naut (circular shaped spy-drone, remote controlled or manned (Foxed?), can dive into water for a short period of time but can't dive very deep. Called Doughnut amongst staff because of the name and shape) - Rotasplit (Heavy-artillery helicopter that can release its cockpit from low altitude, which turns it into a mining capsule to invade areas from beneath while the helicopter itself, in drone-mode, provides aerial support)
- amiibo support. Of course. There are ten new amiibos incoming based on Lylat System. What they bring to the game is unknown.
- Holiday 2018 release

Second game is a year away, at least, maybe holiday 2019 - Donkey Kong Country: Wooden Fury. Won't get nearly as much Direct time or floor space as Lylat System. Not playable. Work started in early 2017.

Bonus: Shin'en Multimedia are working on F-Zero. Story mode, arcade and online.

Grains of salt. It's easy to lead people on with home cooked E3 rumors. I would advise not investing yourself emotionally until this one correctly predicts a few items on its list.

How high do you guys think Krystals odds of being in this game are?

Right now, my estimate is somewhere between 5-10%. The 10% is on the assumption she did notably well on the ballot. Like, Top 20. Top 30 is still a decent finish depending on how many spots on the list are populated by third parties or cartoon characters (ex: Goku, Spongebob, Lincoln Loud). This score will be increased if it turns out that the last Cerinian is on her way to a new Star Fox game this year. The extent of that increase is dependent on how meaningful her role is. If she returns as a member of team Star Fox, she's getting a very generous bump: 70-100%. If it's Katt Monroe or Bill Grey level involvement, then 30% is as high as I'll go. If there's no Star Fox game announced this year, her score remains where it is.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

So a new game is on the horizon, huh? It might not be related to Emily's statement, but, there was this rumor on IGN that cropped up recently... It read like the ramblings of an optimistic guy with a healthy imagination. Didn't make a lot of sense given how hard Zero bombed and the complete radio silence since its release, but Emily's statement on reset is beginning to make me wonder if maybe there's some truth to it. You be the judge.

Spoiler

User: FluidlySolid

Retro are working on two games. Both will be shown at E3, one more than the other, though. However, there is a third project that is going on even further behind the scenes and I got no info on it other than that. Third project. Not two, but three.

The first game is called "Lylat System" and is a space/planet exploration set in the Star Fox franchise. Open world Star Fox game where you can free-roam around, you guessed it, the Lylat system.

Retro began real work on this game shortly after finishing DKCTF but at first, it wasn't a Star Fox game. Around 6 months before DKCT was wrapped up, their next game was being blueprinted and was supposed to be a realistic, seamless space-to-planet explorer. A totally new IP from Retro. But, Retro reached out to Nintendo about turning it into a Star Fox world, as they felt it suited the Star Fox franchise and characters better than what they were planning on doing initially, and Nintendo were impressed. Nintendo wants Star Fox to succeed and when Retro suggested the change in direction, they immediately liked it and it was green-lighted. So it became Lylat System. This is the one that will get the full reveal at E3 and the biggest Switch game of 2018.

Some hearsay points:

- Began in development early March 2014.
- Originally a Wii U game, was supposed to get a reveal trailer at E3 2016 and released summer 2017, but was held back, then moved over to Switch in late 2016 and delayed.
- This is not a first-person game.
- Playable at E3.
- You begin the game as Fox, but you can also play as Falco, Slippy and Peppy, plus others new to the world of Star Fox.
- Star Fox is not in the title of the game, as he is one of many playable characters, not the main focus. The real focal point here is the galaxy itself and what it holds... and what wants to rule it.
- Both Retro and Nintendo wanted to re-imagine the Star Fox franchise. So expect quite a difference and a big game. Not just change in resolution.
- You can choose to play through the game as any one character and get different cinematics, story telling, side quests and gear than other characters.
- Main story is in a nutshell the same for all characters, but point of view in cinematics and their importance in storytelling, and side-quests changes depending on who your current selected character is.
- Fox and co. get more powerful. They level up. More tools, weapons, gear, vehicles, clothing and armor. Stores and specialists scattered around the system.
- You can switch between characters at any time when docked to Great Fox, home base, outposts or space stations. The other characters follow you either on foot or in vehicles.
- Switching is real-time at these hub areas, so no long loading screens as the character specific content loading is cleverly hidden in these areas.
- You can give commands to your squad as a whole or select certain characters and give orders. If you are not playing as Fox, you might receive orders from him.
- Hubs are not far-between so you can change characters almost any time you see fit.
- Six or seven main planets, each has it's unique atmosphere, landscape, population, cities, towns, lore and danger.
- Explorable areas on these six main planets range from 15 square miles, up to around 60 square miles for the biggest one.
- There are smaller planets that players can explore too. These planets are much smaller in explorable areas, though the planets themselves are big, some parts are not reachable. Yet. Future DLC?
- There are not just planets to explore. Asteroid belts, abandoned space stations and space crafts, and more.
- Returning (controllable) vehicles: Arwing, Landmaster, Wolfen, Blue Marine
- New vehicles (not complete): Airbug (two-seater buggy with jet boosters to hover over land and water. Fast and agile, but low on weapons and vulnerable) - Dro-Naut (circular shaped spy-drone, remote controlled or manned (Foxed?), can dive into water for a short period of time but can't dive very deep. Called Doughnut amongst staff because of the name and shape) - Rotasplit (Heavy-artillery helicopter that can release its cockpit from low altitude, which turns it into a mining capsule to invade areas from beneath while the helicopter itself, in drone-mode, provides aerial support)
- amiibo support. Of course. There are ten new amiibos incoming based on Lylat System. What they bring to the game is unknown.
- Holiday 2018 release

Second game is a year away, at least, maybe holiday 2019 - Donkey Kong Country: Wooden Fury. Won't get nearly as much Direct time or floor space as Lylat System. Not playable. Work started in early 2017.

Bonus: Shin'en Multimedia are working on F-Zero. Story mode, arcade and online.

Grains of salt. It's easy to lead people on with home cooked E3 rumors. I would advise not investing yourself emotionally until this one correctly predicts a few items on its list.

Right now, my estimate is somewhere between 5-10%. The 10% is on the assumption she did notably well on the ballot. Like, Top 20. Top 30 is still a decent finish depending on how many spots on the list are populated by third parties or cartoon characters (ex: Goku, Spongebob, Lincoln Loud). This score will be increased if it turns out that the last Cerinian is on her way to a new Star Fox game this year. The extent of that increase is dependent on how meaningful her role is. If she returns as a member of team Star Fox, she's getting a very generous bump: 70-100%. If it's Katt Monroe or Bill Grey level involvement, then 30% is as high as I'll go. If there's no Star Fox game announced this year, her score remains where it is.

No Fox's Sky?

 

[Gagnetar]

So a new game is on the horizon, huh? It might not be related to Emily's statement, but, there was this rumor on IGN that cropped up recently... It read like the ramblings of an optimistic guy with a healthy imagination. Didn't make a lot of sense given how hard Zero bombed and the complete radio silence since its release, but Emily's statement on reset is beginning to make me wonder if maybe there's some truth to it. You be the judge.

Spoiler

User: FluidlySolid

Retro are working on two games. Both will be shown at E3, one more than the other, though. However, there is a third project that is going on even further behind the scenes and I got no info on it other than that. Third project. Not two, but three.

The first game is called "Lylat System" and is a space/planet exploration set in the Star Fox franchise. Open world Star Fox game where you can free-roam around, you guessed it, the Lylat system.

Retro began real work on this game shortly after finishing DKCTF but at first, it wasn't a Star Fox game. Around 6 months before DKCT was wrapped up, their next game was being blueprinted and was supposed to be a realistic, seamless space-to-planet explorer. A totally new IP from Retro. But, Retro reached out to Nintendo about turning it into a Star Fox world, as they felt it suited the Star Fox franchise and characters better than what they were planning on doing initially, and Nintendo were impressed. Nintendo wants Star Fox to succeed and when Retro suggested the change in direction, they immediately liked it and it was green-lighted. So it became Lylat System. This is the one that will get the full reveal at E3 and the biggest Switch game of 2018.

Some hearsay points:

- Began in development early March 2014.
- Originally a Wii U game, was supposed to get a reveal trailer at E3 2016 and released summer 2017, but was held back, then moved over to Switch in late 2016 and delayed.
- This is not a first-person game.
- Playable at E3.
- You begin the game as Fox, but you can also play as Falco, Slippy and Peppy, plus others new to the world of Star Fox.
- Star Fox is not in the title of the game, as he is one of many playable characters, not the main focus. The real focal point here is the galaxy itself and what it holds... and what wants to rule it.
- Both Retro and Nintendo wanted to re-imagine the Star Fox franchise. So expect quite a difference and a big game. Not just change in resolution.
- You can choose to play through the game as any one character and get different cinematics, story telling, side quests and gear than other characters.
- Main story is in a nutshell the same for all characters, but point of view in cinematics and their importance in storytelling, and side-quests changes depending on who your current selected character is.
- Fox and co. get more powerful. They level up. More tools, weapons, gear, vehicles, clothing and armor. Stores and specialists scattered around the system.
- You can switch between characters at any time when docked to Great Fox, home base, outposts or space stations. The other characters follow you either on foot or in vehicles.
- Switching is real-time at these hub areas, so no long loading screens as the character specific content loading is cleverly hidden in these areas.
- You can give commands to your squad as a whole or select certain characters and give orders. If you are not playing as Fox, you might receive orders from him.
- Hubs are not far-between so you can change characters almost any time you see fit.
- Six or seven main planets, each has it's unique atmosphere, landscape, population, cities, towns, lore and danger.
- Explorable areas on these six main planets range from 15 square miles, up to around 60 square miles for the biggest one.
- There are smaller planets that players can explore too. These planets are much smaller in explorable areas, though the planets themselves are big, some parts are not reachable. Yet. Future DLC?
- There are not just planets to explore. Asteroid belts, abandoned space stations and space crafts, and more.
- Returning (controllable) vehicles: Arwing, Landmaster, Wolfen, Blue Marine
- New vehicles (not complete): Airbug (two-seater buggy with jet boosters to hover over land and water. Fast and agile, but low on weapons and vulnerable) - Dro-Naut (circular shaped spy-drone, remote controlled or manned (Foxed?), can dive into water for a short period of time but can't dive very deep. Called Doughnut amongst staff because of the name and shape) - Rotasplit (Heavy-artillery helicopter that can release its cockpit from low altitude, which turns it into a mining capsule to invade areas from beneath while the helicopter itself, in drone-mode, provides aerial support)
- amiibo support. Of course. There are ten new amiibos incoming based on Lylat System. What they bring to the game is unknown.
- Holiday 2018 release

Second game is a year away, at least, maybe holiday 2019 - Donkey Kong Country: Wooden Fury. Won't get nearly as much Direct time or floor space as Lylat System. Not playable. Work started in early 2017.

Bonus: Shin'en Multimedia are working on F-Zero. Story mode, arcade and online.

Grains of salt. It's easy to lead people on with home cooked E3 rumors. I would advise not investing yourself emotionally until this one correctly predicts a few items on its list.

Right now, my estimate is somewhere between 5-10%. The 10% is on the assumption she did notably well on the ballot. Like, Top 20. Top 30 is still a decent finish depending on how many spots on the list are populated by third parties or cartoon characters (ex: Goku, Spongebob, Lincoln Loud). This score will be increased if it turns out that the last Cerinian is on her way to a new Star Fox game this year. The extent of that increase is dependent on how meaningful her role is. If she returns as a member of team Star Fox, she's getting a very generous bump: 70-100%. If it's Katt Monroe or Bill Grey level involvement, then 30% is as high as I'll go. If there's no Star Fox game announced this year, her score remains where it is.

I came across this earlier, it's way too full of ****, there's barely even ten characters to make amiibo for, This is likely based on the reddit thread I made about the open-world Star Fox game concept, the story with Retro seems viable but it's unlikely that these details about said game are accurate. Starfox has ambitious potential but "biggest game of e3 2018" it's already chosen, Smash would blow out anything SF could cook up with ease, even If it was as interesting as BoTW it doesn't have the same pull, also why would they not call it Star Fox? it would confuse people if it didn't have it in the name. Also this E3 will focus on Smash, it's already been announced in that capacity, I imagine an announcement for an SF game is possible but not something so focused about, a game similiar to this is possible, but It's hard to say how it'll go. Also he says the Wolfen is pilotable but doesn't mention Wolf being playable? or Krystal for that matter. this one is obviously fake as to why I didn't mention it myself. Still if it does happen I imagine a segway into smash trailers is possible, we'll certainly find out soon enough. Also I still rate her chance in general as 30%

 

[MoonlitIllusion]

Please...no more developer switches, Just keep the series with Platinum for now please and thank you.

 

[SDFox]

I second this notion

 

[SethTheMage]

My grain of salt could take up the size of the entire plate with this one. According to this, Retro is working on a DK game, another unannounced game, and a game this big at the same time? I mean, the timeframe might work if they started development right after Tropical Freeze (~4 1/2 years), but I don't think this is legit; the scope sounds too unrealistic to me, and I don't think Nintendo would take a risk of this magnitude with Star Fox, especially considering how poorly Zero fared.