Team Star Fox call in Krystal for Smash!

[SiddShidds]

Hey Guys! I'm fairly new to Smashboards. I just wanted to drop by the Krystal thread and say I would love to see this character appear in Smash 5! Good Luck!

 

[Ghirahilda]

Hey Guys! I'm fairly new to Smashboards. I just wanted to drop by the Krystal thread and say I would love to see this character appear in Smash 5! Good Luck!

Welcome darling! Also I loved your avatar!
I hope we get both Krystal and Ashley

 

[SiddShidds]

Welcome darling! Also I loved your avatar!
I hope we get both Krystal and Ashley

Finally someone who understands me!

 

[TheCynicalCdr]

That's so cool. I loved him in Cowboy Bebop.

Oh yeah I forgot to link the updated post. It's the same video but on Twitter.

 

[Gagnetar]

I've been continuing to eye Glidewell's twitter for signs of life, I dunno why but the support twitter can see when she does anything, but my regular twitter cannot despite both of them following her, she liked a post only 3 hours ago, though she continues not to respond to anything... I know she's a producer and has a life but I still just find it suspect that she suddenly vanishes around the smash announcement and continues to not respond to the variety of people tagging her in stuff when she ALWAYS responds to them, it's building on about 3 months, and she hasn't vanished for more than a month over the course of a year. I could totally end up looking ridiculous and she's just balls deep in something else, But I just fathom that she'd get back to people like she's always had, anyway I sent her something that I would imagine would illicit a response, I'll keep an eye out. She may be out of the VA scene, but she said she'd still take the role of Krystal if she was asked to do it. And after leaking in the past, one could imagine they could present a contract that prevents her from saying anything on social media, Though It'd be pretty abnormal if it prevented ANY kind of posts/responses even not about Krystal.

Also since people are for some reason talking about it again, the ballot does mention that it would be used for future titles, basically just means we can still realistically put our hopes in the ballot like we have been doing for a year now.

 

[Morbi]

I've been continuing to eye Glidewell's twitter for signs of life, I dunno why but the support twitter can see when she does anything, but my regular twitter cannot despite both of them following her, she liked a post only 3 hours ago, though she continues not to respond to anything... I know she's a producer and has a life but I still just find it suspect that she suddenly vanishes around the smash announcement and continues to not respond to the variety of people tagging her in stuff when she ALWAYS responds to them, it's building on about 3 months, and she hasn't vanished for more than a month over the course of a year. I could totally end up looking ridiculous and she's just balls deep in something else, But I just fathom that she'd get back to people like she's always had, anyway I sent her something that I would imagine would illicit a response, I'll keep an eye out. She may be out of the VA scene, but she said she'd still take the role of Krystal if she was asked to do it. And after leaking in the past, one could imagine they could present a contract that prevents her from saying anything on social media, Though It'd be pretty abnormal if it prevented ANY kind of posts/responses even not about Krystal.

Also since people are for some reason talking about it again, the ballot does mention that it would be used for future titles, basically just means we can still realistically put our hopes in the ballot like we have been doing for a year now.

I do not know much about her; however, some people do respond to NDAs differently. Just recently, the Arms creator more or less indicated he was under NDA, but then purposely started talking about how Arms was "too young" or something to that extent. So, you never know, some of them try and misdirect, others just do not care (Hades voice actor for Kingdom Hearts 3) and others try to ignore any discussion that might get them in trouble. Unfortunately, she appeared in Smash for Wii U, correct? Even if she was working on Smash, it might not be in the playable capacity that we hope for.

Either way, you never know, the Geno appeal hearkening back to Brawl might put Sakurai in a different mind-set where Krystal comes to mind. ESPECIALLY if she did well on the ballot. I have a feeling Takamaru might be likely for similar reasons. There are so few viable characters left, that naturally he is going to have to look backwards.

 

[IanTheGamer]

I do not know much about her; however, some people do respond to NDAs differently. Just recently, the Arms creator more or less indicated he was under NDA, but then purposely started talking about how Arms was "too young" or something to that extent. So, you never know, some of them try and misdirect, others just do not care (Hades voice actor for Kingdom Hearts 3) and others try to ignore any discussion that might get them in trouble. Unfortunately, she appeared in Smash for Wii U, correct? Even if she was working on Smash, it might not be in the playable capacity that we hope for.

Either way, you never know, the Geno appeal hearkening back to Brawl might put Sakurai in a different mind-set where Krystal comes to mind. ESPECIALLY if she did well on the ballot. I have a feeling Takamaru might be likely for similar reasons. There are so few viable characters left, that naturally he is going to have to look backwards.

Smash for Wii U used recycled sounds from Brawl

 

[~Krystal~]

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Since you asked...

 

[WingedSupernova]

So I believe Krystal was the only character I voted for in the ballot, though I can't be entirely sure. I know next to nothing about her other than the games she comes from and a very rough possible move set. That being said go Krystal!

 

[~Krystal~]

So I believe Krystal was the only character I voted for in the ballot, though I can't be entirely sure. I know next to nothing about her other than the games she comes from and a very rough possible move set. That being said go Krystal!

Voting for Krystal on the promise of her implementation as a Smash fighter is fine. It's what we're all interested in at the end of the day, even if the games she's in are kinda story-driven, especially when compared to Star Fox 1 and 64. This isn't to say her backstory can't be expanded on. It can, and as much as I liked Command, I thought it was a little too experimental to advance the characterization that Assault had built on from Adventures. For anyone who wants to know a little more about Krystal, here's who she is in a nutshell:

• A brave and compassionate girl who will risk her life to fight for friends or strangers in need.
• A tactical advisor. Fox McCloud's team holds the player's hand to some extent and Krystal is no exception. She points out the vulnerabilities in bosses. Before Assault, Peppy filled this role on the battlefield, since he was the pilot with the most experience. Suffice to say, Krystal is wise beyond her years.
• A level head who counterbalances Slippy's carelessness and Falco's fiery disposition.
• A telepath who has so far demonstrated the ability to sense emotions, read thought patterns and pick up disturbances in distant locations. Consider it a layer that exists to pad the immersive experience. I think Assault's story benefited the most from it, and of course, this ability was the driver that kicked the events of Adventures into motion. The telepathy is less pronounced in Command, but then that game was a guinea pig for a lot of different things.

Again, you can't depend on Command to provide a reliable canon since there are so many twists and turns that lead to different endings. All you can do is appreciate it for what does well, and if you find something about the story that you enjoy, all the better. Command is definitely the most story-driven game Krystal appears in. The problem is that her portrayal in it is highly controversial. In that game's defense, there are one or two endings that make sense and could effortlessly be woven into an Assault sequel (ending 5 comes to mind).

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

This isn't to say her backstory can't be expanded on. It can

Oh, it definitely can. Do you remember the lost tribe that once inhabited Venom? It was mentioned in the 1993 Power Comic as well as the 64 strategy guide. I think that Krystal's people (the Cerinians) totally fit the bill to be this tribe. It's said that the tribe left Venom to find a new home. However, they left things behind which allowed Andross to get his telekinesis. After being “defeated” in the Lylat Wars, it would only make sense for Andross to look for this tribe. They kinda gave him his powers once, so they can do it again, right? This time, however, he needs their powers to revive himself. Unfortunately, something goes wrong and Cerinia blows up. Luckily, Krystal survives and Andross realizes that he can still use her to revive himself -- on Sauria this time. He lures her there by assisting Scales, so that a distress call is sent. It's a crazy theory, I know, and it certainly needs some adjustments, but it would explain so many things we've seen in Adventures. I mean, how did Andross know that he can use Krystal, let alone that she was coming there? Everything was already in place, ready to be used. There's just too many coincidences. Even the game's manual hints that Krystal might find her answers on Sauria. Yeah, so that's how Krystal and her backstory could be used to flesh out multiple things at once. Technically, this would establish a believable connection between Venom, Cerinia and even Sauria/Krazoa to some degree. There are not too many other SF characters who could do that. Not to mention the tragedy of being the last survivor, which would surely cause people to sympathize with Krystal. Plus, it would strengthen the bond between her and Fox. They both experienced loss, possibly caused by the same man. They can relate to one another, in a sad way. Something like this can bring people closer. In short: Fleshing out Krystal could potentially benefit the entire series, to the point where actual worldbuilding and believable character development are achieved.

Edit: I totally forgot about Krystal's staff. Well, it could either be from Sauria and Krystal found it some time after her arrival, or it is indeed Cerinian. If the latter is actually the case, it's yet another strong indication toward a possible connection between Sauria and Cerinia. The staff worked perfectly on Sauria, after all.

Again, you can't depend on Command to provide a reliable canon since there are so many twists and turns that lead to different endings. All you can do is appreciate it for what does well, and if you find something about the story that you enjoy, all the better. Command is definitely the most story-driven game Krystal appears in. The problem is that her portrayal in it is highly controversial. In that game's defense, there are one or two endings that make sense and could effortlessly be woven into an Assault sequel (ending 5 comes to mind).

Yeah, Command only caused chaos and confusion among the fans. It's probably the reason why we haven't gotten a new story ever since, which definitely needs to happen on the Switch. They should just ignore Command and give us a worthy Assault sequel. If we actually end up getting a Command sequel, it should pick up from endings 1 or 5. I would even love to see a reimagining of Adventures as a direct follow up to Zero. This time, Krystal shouldn't get captured, though. Wouldn't it be cool to have Fox & Krystal actually working together in an open-world 2 player co-op? I know I said “No more reimaginings”, but Adventures is really the exception. To me, it's the only game that actually needs a reimagining, apart from Command (which would probably need a complete re-write ). Adventures' story has so much unused potential. A reimagining could unveil lots of things (like Cerinia) and answer quite a few questions, so that it would still be new and exciting. Gameplay-wise, they could add more Arwing parts -- during the boss battles, for instance. Instead of exploring Sauria only on-foot, they should also give you the option to explore the planet from above, being able to land your Arwing anywhere you want to.

There are definitely several directions Nintendo could take the series in at this point. I still think something like Assault is the best option since it kinda combined certain gameplay elements, which seems like the proper approach. After all, we have a divided fanbase, and a game like Assault is probably a good compromise, so that both sides get at least something from the game. All they have to do is balance it properly and put more energy into the ground sections.

 

[Gagnetar]

the r/smashbros poll was completed, Waluigi actually did win.. the memes are real lol, Krystal made top 40 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1o-l2YWOx5yNDw6c-sl3_sZAsOoFgh-piXJa1iCyvQ48/edit#gid=0
that's not too bad all things considered, These polls always make wonder how high her popularity is with the more casual audience that the smash ballot probably reached, did she fare better? or worse? eitherway that's not her only layer to being included, being considered once before is a fairly potent advantage as he likes to revisit characters later if there's time, we can hope there is this time lol.

 

[IanTheGamer]

Of the top 40 characters, Goku is not gonna happen, Ridley is still probably not gonna happen, Knuckles is also not very likely, neither is Zero, as their franchises are already represented. Waluigi is irrelevant to his own franchise

 

[AlphaSSB]

Made a heartwarming little discovery, thought I'd share it here.

I made these with my grandmother when I was about 8 or 9. Four Arwings and three Wolfens, just like in Star Fox Assault. I feel so much nostalgia, right now, but it's bittersweet given Star Fox's uncertain future. Think I might hook up the Gamecube and start playing the best Star Fox game, for old time's sake.

 

[Gagnetar]

Well false alarm with her hiatus, Glidewell said she still hasn't been contacted about a voice acting role, That's not to say that she still can't be, or even that they didn't change what voice actor she'd be using. As it's not like they don't change the voice cast of SF around a lot. We've still got a ways till the game comes out so I'll keep my eyes peeled for her if she says anything else. Plus rather than risk her leaking information, why not contact a different voice actor? I mean this is coming from a man who hinted at not making a story mode because people leaked the cutscenes. Not to mention relys heavily on the character reveal trailers to build hype. So there's definitely still chances.

 

[ArcaneKitsune]

Well false alarm with her hiatus, Glidewell said she still hasn't been contacted about a voice acting role, That's not to say that she still can't be, or even that they didn't change what voice actor she'd be using. As it's not like they don't change the voice cast of SF around a lot. We've still got a ways till the game comes out so I'll keep my eyes peeled for her if she says anything else. Plus rather than risk her leaking information, why not contact a different voice actor? I mean this is coming from a man who hinted at not making a story mode because people leaked the cutscenes. Not to mention relys heavily on the character reveal trailers to build hype. So there's definitely still chances.

M
I’m going to take this new information with a grain of salt. It’s isn’t because I don’t believe her mind you. It’s more or less because of the lack of information we have right now that I have a hard time believing any new information about the new Smash Bros.. Nevertheless, she could be possibly hiding the fact that she may indeed have been already called in by Nintendo for voice acting, and with Nintendo keeping a tight lip on anything related to this new game besides the trailer. I wouldn’t be surprised if Nintendo wants to keep the content of this new game classified(unlike the last game’s development cycle)until they want the public to know about it. That’s just my opinion on things though. Lol

 

[Gagnetar]

M
I’m going to take this new information with a grain of salt. It’s isn’t because I don’t believe her mind you. It’s more or less because of the lack of information we have right now that I have a hard time believing any new information about the new Smash Bros.. Nevertheless, she could be possibly hiding the fact that she may indeed have been already called in by Nintendo for voice acting, and with Nintendo keeping a tight lip on anything related to this new game besides the trailer. I wouldn’t be surprised if Nintendo wants to keep the content of this new game classified(unlike the last game’s development cycle)until they want the public to know about it. That’s just my opinion on things though. Lol

I don't quite think she would be the kind of person to lie to my face, even under an NDA, that'd be a pretty big character shift for her. Most people would just not respond. But I'll show everyone her response so everyone can form their own opinion aswell, because realistically someone can announce they've been contacted because you can't be placed under a NDA from reading an email, she could totally tell us if she was contacted for a role, it's just that through deductive reasoning we could figure out who it was because for someone who's not active anymore, it would be to reprise a character role.

 

[ArcaneKitsune]

I don't quite think she would be the kind of person to lie to my face, even under an NDA, that'd be a pretty big character shift for her. Most people would just not respond. But I'll show everyone her response so everyone can form their own opinion aswell, because realistically someone can announce they've been contacted because you can't be placed under a NDA from reading an email, she could totally tell us if she was contacted for a role, it's just that through deductive reasoning we could figure out who it was because for someone who's not active anymore, it would be to reprise a character role.

Never mind then....Glidewell’s response is more sincere and truthful then I thought it was. Lol
Anyway, did Krystal have any other voice actresses besides Glidewell? I can’t remember for the life of me if she did.

 

[~Krystal~]

Never mind then....Glidewell’s response is more sincere and truthful then I thought it was. Lol
Anyway, did Krystal have any other voice actresses besides Glidewell? I can’t remember for the life of me if she did.

There is Estelle Ellis, another talented voice actress. She voiced Krystal in Adventures.

 

[Deleted member]

I always felt bad for not voting for her in the ballot last time around. Whilst I was introduced to the series through 64, Adventures was the one that really got me into the series during the time between Command and Star Fox 64 3D's release and I was always interested in learning more about her backstory or seeing how her role would be expanded in future titles. After the long hiatus after Command I got really excited when Zero was announced though was very disappointed to find it would be a retelling of 64 (as much as I love that game, I really want to see how the timeline continues after Assault/Command) and that Krystal would continue to miss out on appearances within the series and Smash. I really feel that including her in the next Smash title could help introduce her to people unfamiliar with the character and series, add a unique fighter character to the Smash series and possibly lead to her making a much needed return to the series after such a long time being absent. I wanna make sure I can show my support in helping her make it into The Smash series as well as making a return to the Star Fox series in any way I can.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

Hypothetical:

Star Fox gets a new character in Smash Switch but it's Slippy with a moveset based on Star Fox Guard.

How would you react? (for argument's sake, Wolf doesn't return either)

 

[Deleted member]

Hypothetical:

Star Fox gets a new character in Smash Switch but it's Slippy with a moveset based on Star Fox Guard.

How would you react? (for argument's sake, Wolf doesn't return either)

Whilst its not the character I'd expect I think if they handled the move set correctly, he could be a very interesting character. While I'm not an expert on coming up with move sets something that could incorporate the cameras and different robots into his specials whether they be support or offensive ones (maybe like rosalina and luna where both slippy and a random robot could both be playable at the same time as one). Maybe his final smash could be something like the freeze cam or charge cam or calling down one of the bigger robot enemies. In an ideal world I'd love to see all the main Star Fox/Star Wolf characters make it into a game. Given the different unique styles of gameplay and the fact that each character have their own special abilities in the multiplayer modes and command I feel its a big shame that the series was relegated to 2 characters in the recent series rather than expanding in ways like the Mario or Fire Emblem series in terms of their representation.

 

[Sean Wheeler]

I would be glad if Krystal was the fourth Star Fox character.

 

[ArcaneKitsune]

Hypothetical:

Star Fox gets a new character in Smash Switch but it's Slippy with a moveset based on Star Fox Guard.

How would you react? (for argument's sake, Wolf doesn't return either)

First I’d laugh really hard at the fact that we got such a character for new StarFox character. Second I’d main the hell out of him just because I can. Finally with my new found mastery of the character I would go online with him and dominate.

 

[CBO0tz]

Tbh, ever since PM had an April Fool's joke video in 2014 where Slippy was shown off (which was actually a really well-made model),

I've wanted Slippy in Smash as the third good guy Fox rep for Smash - I imagine he'd be much more keepaway and special move-based than the other spacies since he developed most of the tech everyone uses.

But.. I can see Krystal joining in too, she's been considered for more Smash games than Slippy, and from the looks of it, she'd be taken a lot more seriously than him too.

 

[Gagnetar]

I'd probably make a sequence in SFM of him being gored to death if that meant Krystal didn't get in, I can't really think of a worse scenario in regards to smash. Quite fortunately his popularity is deeply low and guard came out well past the smash ballot, While it totally matches timing for Sakurai to have played it, He'd be doing a great disservice to SF fans, though that hasn't stopped him before lol. He already fractured the base by putting Wolf in so Krystal fans have had to contest with that, and contesting with the comic relief character would really be some radical doomsday scenario as that would mean that for sure Krystal would not get in if slippy became playable, It amuses me that people just think recency is all that matters for picks, how many times has sakurai broken whatever rules we've put in place for character selection? It's pretty amusing to see SF rosters with fox, falco, slippy and wolf, low popularity is definitely a factor for characters not being playable, being unknown in the west is why Takamaru isn't playable, and I think tingle aswell, people were mad when Wolf got in over Krystal, would you imagine the outcry when a character people don't even like gets in? I haven't even opened SF guard so I can't really attest to his kit potential as a result of it, though I don't really know if the moves really even translate to a fighting game, and being from a one-off spin-off game isn't really important to the legacy of nintendo or even SF.

Thing is Krystal is quite important to the history of the franchise, she's the reason the franchise likely got anymore games to begin with, she also has a kit that does translate nicely to a fighting game, and they could sell her on GC virtual console, because there's not one, but two SF titles on the gamecube with her on it, and there's certainly going to be a new SF in the future. Gamestop also said something that many titles are unannounced for nintendo, I have no idea why they would know that information, But let's look forward to E3 towards character trailers to see if she gets in. I'd say we're probably due for one in a couple weeks or so, Don't think it'd be her, I'm still voting on some kind of SF game announcement that leads into smash trailers for Wolf & Krystal, not being a one-off character, having a unique kit potential, being from a legacy tested franchise, being female, having long-term popularity, she's got perks, we'll have to see, I liked Morbi's analysis of him making throwbacks to brawl speculation, and sourcegaming was talking about locating an article where Sakurai admitted to having to cut several characters. I'd say there's a decent chance of that having come into consideration for Smash switch.

 

[Sean Wheeler]

If she doesn't get a Landmaster, then Falco and Wolf should change their Final Smashes. Falco should use an Arwing and Wolf should get a Wolfen. And Krystal could use Tricky.

 

[Morbi]

Hypothetical:

Star Fox gets a new character in Smash Switch but it's Slippy with a moveset based on Star Fox Guard.

How would you react? (for argument's sake, Wolf doesn't return either)

The only reason I would be livid is the fact that I do not want Star Fox Guard, I would want him to be the joke version of the space animals. I enjoy all Star Fox characters and therefore one getting in over Krystal would not devastate me despite the fact that Krystal is my most wanted.

 

[Deleted member]

But let's look forward to E3 towards character trailers to see if she gets in. I'd say we're probably due for one in a couple weeks or so, Don't think it'd be her, I'm still voting on some kind of SF game announcement that leads into smash trailers for Wolf & Krystal, not being a one-off character, having a unique kit potential, being from a legacy tested franchise, being female, having long-term popularity, she's got perks, we'll have to see, I liked Morbi's analysis of him making throwbacks to brawl speculation, and sourcegaming was talking about locating an article where Sakurai admitted to having to cut several characters. I'd say there's a decent chance of that having come into consideration for Smash switch.

For me if that were to happen at E3 it would be the perfect way to celebrate the series' 25th anniversary given the franchises general lack of attention from Nintendo for the last 10 years or so. The sales for Zero was a cause for concern for me in terms of whether the series would get another release anytime soon, but with the release of SF2 last year and Miyamotos pledge to be putting more energy into the series, I feel encouraged that the series has something big planned for the near future on the Switch. Having a new title which carries on from Assault/ Command and takes the gameplay in new directions possibly, as well as a reveal trailer for both Wolf and Krystal could be a great way to reignite interest in the franchise, and remains something I'm highly hopeful for come E3.

 

[Gagnetar]

For me if that were to happen at E3 it would be the perfect way to celebrate the series' 25th anniversary given the franchises general lack of attention from Nintendo for the last 10 years or so. The sales for Zero was a cause for concern for me in terms of whether the series would get another release anytime soon, but with the release of SF2 last year and Miyamotos pledge to be putting more energy into the series, I feel encouraged that the series has something big planned for the near future on the Switch. Having a new title which carries on from Assault/ Command and takes the gameplay in new directions possibly, as well as a reveal trailer for both Wolf and Krystal could be a great way to reignite interest in the franchise, and remains something I'm highly hopeful for come E3.

It'd certainly be a great way to get the series back into gear, If miyamoto does something a bit more ingenious than a simple tech demo and filling the games with half-assed mechanics, Thing is the games could totally sell if they actually just put some real effort and passion into it, People can really see how low-effort or rushed something is so there's little use in just pawning it off and just hoping for the best, Another point would be you'd want a character people haven't seen yet to advertise for a franchise, Wolf may appeal to veterans but people have already seen him and know who he is, I've seen artists who love to draw Krystal but have never played her games, the issue before would not being able to market the character, but with not one but TWO games for the potential gamecube VC titles to advertise for and the potential of a serious starfox title, these people would be able to play games with her in it, these are definitely all IFs since we don't know if they'll actually give us gamecube VC and it's possible miyamoto could dish out another rather incompetent game, but that really doesn't seem like the way it's gonna go, Nintendo is real into that pandering content right now, I think being virtually the only real first-party female request will also go a long way, her staff kit may not be very representational of Star Fox, but it's a stretch for any character who doesn't do alot of ground-based combat anyway. I mean the other SF characters don't have reflectors, or that dash mechanic, or their UP+B, etc, but adventures actually has the staff combat, it's pretty irritating though because she never gets to actually use it, so I hope that won't hinder things too much, they're really aren't too many female character picks, one of the loudest ones on the net atleast is Daisy, who'd either be a clone or represent the mario-spinoffs which I think the items and the Waluigi assist trophy do fine, Midna who I personally like aswell but her importance is limited to being in one game, it was enough to get her an assist trophy but not a fighter, she's possible considering the HD remake but i wouldn't bet on it. She'd be old news, Krystal would be considered old news but that's not exactly as a bad as it would be for others considering it's long-time support for smash, and that she has potential going into the future as a recurring character in the games canon, It'd be truly foolish for them not to put her into a new SF game. Oh and I guess Pyra who would be connected to Rex, I see them happening anyway, but that's not exactly a fully seperate fighter so it only counts for so much, Aswell as Dixie Kong, her claim for kit potential was the tag-team mechanic which sadly missed it's chance, I could still see her making it in as a semi-clone and market her for the tropical freeze port, depending on if they knew that and if they wanted another character to throw in with some popularity after they put in K Rool, DK could easily deserve 4 reps, Sakurai likes to create a marketing slogan for their characters to I guess clearly explain what their role is as fighter and to determine their kit. Wonder what one would look like for Krystal? these are the ones he gave examples
Metaknight: Pointed Sword Dancer
Ike: Burly Swordsman
Snake: Heavy Weapons Specialist
Zero Suit Samus: Flexible Martial Artist
So one for Krystal would have to be a role, Palutena sorta takes the magic staff gimmick so it would have to be clearly different something like Speedy Bojutsu Master, anyone have some good ones?

 

[IanTheGamer]

It'd certainly be a great way to get the series back into gear, If miyamoto does something a bit more ingenious than a simple tech demo and filling the games with half-***** mechanics, Thing is the games could totally sell if they actually just put some real effort and passion into it, People can really see how low-effort or rushed something is so there's little use in just pawning it off and just hoping for the best, Another point would be you'd want a character people haven't seen yet to advertise for a franchise, Wolf may appeal to veterans but people have already seen him and know who he is, I've seen artists who love to draw Krystal but have never played her games, the issue before would not being able to market the character, but with not one but TWO games for the potential gamecube VC titles to advertise for and the potential of a serious starfox title, these people would be able to play games with her in it, these are definitely all IFs since we don't know if they'll actually give us gamecube VC and it's possible miyamoto could dish out another rather incompetent game, but that really doesn't seem like the way it's gonna go, Nintendo is real into that pandering content right now, I think being virtually the only real first-party female request will also go a long way, her staff kit may not be very representational of Star Fox, but it's a stretch for any character who doesn't do alot of ground-based combat anyway. I mean the other SF characters don't have reflectors, or that dash mechanic, or their UP+B, etc, but adventures actually has the staff combat, it's pretty irritating though because she never gets to actually use it, so I hope that won't hinder things too much, they're really aren't too many female character picks, one of the loudest ones on the net atleast is Daisy, who'd either be a clone or represent the mario-spinoffs which I think the items and the Waluigi assist trophy do fine, Midna who I personally like aswell but her importance is limited to being in one game, it was enough to get her an assist trophy but not a fighter, she's possible considering the HD remake but i wouldn't bet on it. She'd be old news, Krystal would be considered old news but that's not exactly as a bad as it would be for others considering it's long-time support for smash, and that she has potential going into the future as a recurring character in the games canon, It'd be truly foolish for them not to put her into a new SF game. Oh and I guess Pyra who would be connected to Rex, I see them happening anyway, but that's not exactly a fully seperate fighter so it only counts for so much, Aswell as Dixie Kong, her claim for kit potential was the tag-team mechanic which sadly missed it's chance, I could still see her making it in as a semi-clone and market her for the tropical freeze port, depending on if they knew that and if they wanted another character to throw in with some popularity after they put in K Rool, DK could easily deserve 4 reps, Sakurai likes to create a marketing slogan for their characters to I guess clearly explain what their role is as fighter and to determine their kit. Wonder what one would look like for Krystal? these are the ones he gave examples
Metaknight: Pointed Sword Dancer
Ike: Burly Swordsman
Snake: Heavy Weapons Specialist
Zero Suit Samus: Flexible Martial Artist
So one for Krystal would have to be a role, Palutena sorta takes the magic staff gimmick so it would have to be clearly different something like Speedy Bojutsu Master, anyone have some good ones?

Star Fox's Telepathic Staff user?

 

[SethTheMage]

I can see Krystal differentiating from Palutena in her normals. Palutena only directly uses her staff for 5 moves; she uses kicks, wings, her powers, and her shield for everything else. Krystal could be a mid-range combo fighter on the ground, using attacks inspired from Fox's staff combos in Adventures. Maybe her jab, ftilt, dtilt, utilt and possibly fsmash could all utilize different multiple hit combo strings, similar to Bayonetta's jab and ftilt combo.

 

[Deleted member]

It'd certainly be a great way to get the series back into gear, If miyamoto does something a bit more ingenious than a simple tech demo and filling the games with half-***** mechanics, Thing is the games could totally sell if they actually just put some real effort and passion into it, People can really see how low-effort or rushed something is so there's little use in just pawning it off and just hoping for the best, Another point would be you'd want a character people haven't seen yet to advertise for a franchise, Wolf may appeal to veterans but people have already seen him and know who he is, I've seen artists who love to draw Krystal but have never played her games, the issue before would not being able to market the character, but with not one but TWO games for the potential gamecube VC titles to advertise for and the potential of a serious starfox title, these people would be able to play games with her in it, these are definitely all IFs since we don't know if they'll actually give us gamecube VC and it's possible miyamoto could dish out another rather incompetent game, but that really doesn't seem like the way it's gonna go, Nintendo is real into that pandering content right now, I think being virtually the only real first-party female request will also go a long way, her staff kit may not be very representational of Star Fox, but it's a stretch for any character who doesn't do alot of ground-based combat anyway. I mean the other SF characters don't have reflectors, or that dash mechanic, or their UP+B, etc, but adventures actually has the staff combat, it's pretty irritating though because she never gets to actually use it, so I hope that won't hinder things too much, they're really aren't too many female character picks, one of the loudest ones on the net atleast is Daisy, who'd either be a clone or represent the mario-spinoffs which I think the items and the Waluigi assist trophy do fine, Midna who I personally like aswell but her importance is limited to being in one game, it was enough to get her an assist trophy but not a fighter, she's possible considering the HD remake but i wouldn't bet on it. She'd be old news, Krystal would be considered old news but that's not exactly as a bad as it would be for others considering it's long-time support for smash, and that she has potential going into the future as a recurring character in the games canon, It'd be truly foolish for them not to put her into a new SF game. Oh and I guess Pyra who would be connected to Rex, I see them happening anyway, but that's not exactly a fully seperate fighter so it only counts for so much, Aswell as Dixie Kong, her claim for kit potential was the tag-team mechanic which sadly missed it's chance, I could still see her making it in as a semi-clone and market her for the tropical freeze port, depending on if they knew that and if they wanted another character to throw in with some popularity after they put in K Rool, DK could easily deserve 4 reps, Sakurai likes to create a marketing slogan for their characters to I guess clearly explain what their role is as fighter and to determine their kit. Wonder what one would look like for Krystal? these are the ones he gave examples
Metaknight: Pointed Sword Dancer
Ike: Burly Swordsman
Snake: Heavy Weapons Specialist
Zero Suit Samus: Flexible Martial Artist
So one for Krystal would have to be a role, Palutena sorta takes the magic staff gimmick so it would have to be clearly different something like Speedy Bojutsu Master, anyone have some good ones?

I imagine things would go differently for a release on the switch. I honestly think that the Wii U was a great console though I did feel at times a few of their franchises seemed to play it safe, mainly the Mario releases and even SF Zero though I did enjoy that game despite the controls and similarities with 64. With the switch however Nintendo have appeared very keen on avoiding some of the problems they had with the Wii U, mainly a significant increase of 3rd party support as well making their longer running franchises feel fresh and innovative like in Odyssey or Breath of the Wild (though that could be considered a Wii U title I suppose). Given how the franchise has shown it can innovate and push the franchise in different directions whilst still creating a fantastic game I like to believe that Nintendo haven't forgotten that and can show that they still care deeply about the franchise especially with many people still supporting the series and hoping for a switch announcement soon.

Whenever I feel discouraged I look at what Pits appearance in Brawl did for the Kid Icarus franchise and how it introduced people to the franchise, whereupon a new title was released due to popular demand and like to believe a similar action for Star Fox would do the same though to what extent I'm not quite sure. Re-releasing the GameCube titles, potentially on whatever form the virtual console might take would be another great idea as unlike most of the other titles in the series, they're not as easily available with Assault especially being quite pricey and hard to come by. This means its possible alot of people who are interested in the series may not have had the opportunity to appreciate Krystal's character arc (or many of the other characters introduced in that era) throughout the series, or experience the more epic and character focused stories (myself included until recently) which I felt was taking the series in the right direction by adding a welcome amount of further character development to an already likeable cast of characters and adding adversaries which were threatening, expanded the series lore further and (for better or worse ) added an interesting level of character conflict between both friends and enemies. It would be interesting should these titles be re-released to see whether Nintendo monitored the sales of these as a way of gauging series interest as well as potentially the direction to take the franchise in, in terms of story and gameplay.

For her moveset I'd be curious to see if they brought back custom moves as I feel that could potentially make her one of the more diverse fighters in the series and allow all her appearances to be taken into consideration beyond Adventures. It would potentially allow for all her staff abilities and combos to be included as well as possibly adding in a few moves taken from Assault which would fall more in line with how the other characters have been represented in the series whilst still remaining different like making use of the minigun or the protective shields used in the multiplayer. As for her slogan I can imagine it would be similar to IantheGamers suggestion of being something which highlights both her telepathic abilities as well as her skills in the use of the staff, and should there be a reveal trailer made for her I imagine these 2 characteristics of hers would be the main focus of it. Based on the initial reveal trailer it really does seem that the new title will be trying out some new things and while I may be feeling overly optimistic I believe the overall roster for the game will be a good representation of what people want to see in the game, whether it be a certain character or franchise that is introduced or added to the series. And while it may sound a bit biased I'm remaining hopeful and optimistic that the franchise will be well represented this time around whether it be through the main game or DLC or even a future SF title.

 

[IanTheGamer]

You all know I think the best thing Sakurai can do if Krystal and Wolf make it in Smash this time, is a double reveal trailer

 

[Sean Wheeler]

You all know I think the best thing Sakurai can do if Krystal and Wolf make it in Smash this time, is a double reveal trailer

Kinda like what happened with Charizard and Greninja? And Robin and Lucina? Yeah that could work. I have an idea for a double reveal trailer for Waluigi and Daisy playing Tennis to get into Smash. Daisy wins, but Waluigi rejects the second-place prize of an Assist Trophy and makes a sneak attack on Daisy on a Smash stage. The trailer then showcase gameplay clips of Waluigi and Daisy's special moves.

As for Krystal and Wolf, the trailer could start with Fox and Falco fighting Samus and Captain Falcon. And then, a Wolfen appears and fires on the fighters, blowing away Cap and Samus. He keeps firing on Fox and Falco who dodges his lasers until Wolf jumps out of the ship to fight them personally. Wolf then knocks out Falco leaving Fox to call for backup. Then Krystal comes out of an Arwing to save Fox and use a Smash attack on Wolf. Then the trailer would showcase gameplay of Krystal with a few clips of Wolf.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

Palutena's staff is a sceptre, whereas Krystal's is an extendable bo-staff. Krystal's moveset would be a lot more physical than Palutena's as they
use it in completely different ways.

(typed this in yesterday and forgot to hit post)

 

[MoonlitIllusion]

So it's been nearly 2 years since Zero came out, do you guys think we'll be getting a sequel? Maybe even at E3? And Hashimoto saying he wants Krystal in a potential sequel gives me hope. Who knows but a sequel actually controlled by Platinum would be dope.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

So it's been nearly 2 years since Zero came out, do you guys think we'll be getting a sequel? Maybe even at E3? And Hashimoto saying he wants Krystal in a potential sequel gives me hope. Who knows but a sequel actually controlled by Platinum would be dope.

Even just Zero without the herculean task of justifying the WiiU's gimmicks would be a great game.

If they went back to the post Assault times, even better

 

[MoonlitIllusion]

Even just Zero without the herculean task of justifying the WiiU's gimmicks would be a great game.

If they went back to the post Assault times, even better

I feel like the motion control garbage is too heavy to just take it out in a port, a sequel is probably a better bet.

I miss the old universe but it'd be weird as hell to go back now, might as well just keep going with this one and make it not bad. Just retell the stories of adventures and assault like they did 64 in Zero tbh. We already know Sauria exists in the Zero universe so they could.

 

[Gagnetar]

Even just Zero without the herculean task of justifying the WiiU's gimmicks would be a great game.

If they went back to the post Assault times, even better

no it wouldn't, the game itself IS the gimmick, it's existence was justified to nintendo by the awful control gimmick, without it it's just the same uninspired star fox game we've seen 3 times before it, guess that's just an opinion though

I feel like the motion control garbage is too heavy to just take it out in a port, a sequel is probably a better bet.

I miss the old universe but it'd be weird as hell to go back now, might as well just keep going with this one and make it not bad. Just retell the stories of adventures and assault like they did 64 in Zero tbh. We already know Sauria exists in the Zero universe so they could.

Yea the game doesn't really exist without the controls, I've seen people ask for a zero port against better judgment, but it's not only not something they'd do, I just can't really fathom who would actually want it. Though why would it be weird to return to it? and why instead just make even more remakes? If the series really only merits remakes it really should have never been a series to begin with, I think that a full on new game is what it really needs, one not marred by terrible gimmicks or horrible executive decisions. Anyhoo yea I think we'll see something at e3, Smash could carry e3 on it's own but why not another announcement? 2 years is enough to make a new game, certainly for SF, they'll probably have something together by then even if they didn't just go right into it, which they may have pretty quickly. Just gotta hope miyamoto agrees with putting Krystal in Smash, he thought she was worth converting DP into adventures for, can't imagine why he'd say no.