Tales of Symphonia Mafia | Game Over - Town Wins Yayuhzz

[X1-12]

should we keep chaco alive just to irritate him?

 

[Nix2100]

Eh...as much as I don't like it, rather get a lynch over a no lynch. Going for Zac, though only on the basis that the Swiss vs Chaco needs to be looked at a bit closely and I feel it would be better suited for our discussions tomorrow...and personally, between Swiss and Zac I would lean more towards Zac being scum.

Vote: UTDZac

 

[DtJ Hilt]

Yeah, if Chaco isn't planning on giving any kind of defense, there's little reason not to lynch him.

should we keep chaco alive just to irritate him?

rofl

Nix, thoughts on the Chaco wagon so far?

 

[X1-12]

Eh...as much as I don't like it, rather get a lynch over a no lynch. Going for Zac, though only on the basis that the Swiss vs Chaco needs to be looked at a bit closely and I feel it would be better suited for our discussions tomorrow...and personally, between Swiss and Zac I would lean more towards Zac being scum.

Vote: UTDZac

Swiss & Vult: on this reasoning would you go back to voting Zac? thus putting him at L-1

 

[UTDZac]

Between me and Swiss, I think I'm the only one who fully claimed, right?

In case you forgot: Regal Bryant (Vanilla Town)

Since I haven't voted yet and I'd much rather Swiss go down than me at this point, I think this is fair:

Vote: Swiss

 

[DtJ Hilt]

Also, I don't like your reasons for your vote. You want to more info on the Swiss vs Chaco situation so you're going to kill Zac?? Because you don't want a no lynch?? What has Zac done? Why not lynch Vult, or X1, or Sworddancer, or whoever? Because they're not as convenient? I voted Blue Yoshi earlier because of his bull **** reasons for jumping on band wagons, and you're doing little different.

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

Cause thats the only way you'll realize it obv.

Sword, nope. Im frustrated enough with this game.

Big ATE there. If your town, then you should be pushing for who you think is scum, using emotions as an excuse not to is scummy. At least try to make some points against Swiss or else I'm voting for you.

 

[#HBC | marshy]

Big ATE there. If your town, then you should be pushing for who you think is scum, using emotions as an excuse not to is scummy.

dont be a robot

 

[X1-12]

Also, I don't like your reasons for your vote. You want to more info on the Swiss vs Chaco situation so you're going to kill Zac?? Because you don't want a no lynch?? What has Zac done? Why not lynch Vult, or X1, or Sworddancer, or whoever? Because they're not as convenient? I voted Blue Yoshi earlier because of his bull **** reasons for jumping on band wagons, and you're doing little different.

lol? what is up with this? why is everyone playing so crazy tonight... He did actually say he leant more towards Zac being scum (which he had already said before)

UTDZac: Is your last post just saying, 'I'd rather him die than me die' which seems pretty ****. I think Hilts post (quoted above) applies more to you than it does to Nix

 

[#HBC | marshy]

what? nixs post makes no sense

if zacs scum hes preserving himself. if hes town hes refusing to take part of what he knows is a mislynch. deadline is tomorrow. i dont get how "id rather him die than me" is worth being noted?

 

[X1-12]

what? nixs post makes no sense

if zacs scum hes preserving himself. if hes town hes refusing to take part of what he knows is a mislynch. deadline is tomorrow. i dont get how "id rather him die than me" is worth being noted?

I'd like him to answer plz

 

[#HBC | marshy]

actually i guess i see what nix is saying...but i can see how hilt read it that way. super safe post tho

 

[DtJ Hilt]

No, saying "I'm leaning more towards Zac than Swiss" is not a legitimate reason to vote for someone at all. I'm not saying it came out of nowhere, I'm saying that his stance has no foundation.

 

[DtJ Hilt]

^At X1's first response

 

[Nix2100]

Its not a legitimate reason your absolutely right, but that is all I got, because like I said already, I don't get the scummy feel from either them really.

As for the Chaco thing, I see where people are going and I want to see more interaction between them =P Never know what might slip.

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

dont be a robot

Listen, even if he is a townie who is being emotional right now, then it would still be in his best interest to get over asap to comply.

 

[DtJ Hilt]

Thinking person A is scummier than person B does not mean that you think either of these two people to be scum. If you do, it's usually.. a good idea to make your reasoning known, give a comparison, point out scum tells, you know how it works. Saying "I'd rather player B be the lynch because I'd like to look more into player A and player C tomorrow" STILL gives no reasoning, does not tell us WHY he choose player B over player D, E, etc. The only reason I can see him voting for Zac is convenience. Not that I'm saying that it is for sure his only reason and that he doesn't have any, just that it's the only one visible because it's the only one he's telling us.

 

[DtJ Hilt]

Ninja'd by my point being proven.

 

[DtJ Hilt]

Who do you think is scummy then, Nix?

 

[#HBC | marshy]

Its not a legitimate reason your absolutely right, but that is all I got, because like I said already, I don't get the scummy feel from either them really.

As for the Chaco thing, I see where people are going and I want to see more interaction between them =P Never know what might slip.

who DO you find scummy then?

you should really make me a dvoter. just for today

 

[Swiss]

Swiss & Vult: on this reasoning would you go back to voting Zac? thus putting him at L-1

Only if we can't get Chibo lynched.

I'd lynch Zac for the exact reason he'd lynch me. We know it's statistically more pro to our faction, town OR scum benefit from it.



Chibo has gone on mad AtE and made a post saying he should be lynched or some such BS. He doesn't even care about the game.
Bad reasoning here but I'm unemployed (go go University degree) and mad active!

 

[Nix2100]

I'm having issues with Thinkaman, Tandora, and Rajam at the moment =P Was starting to think your scum as well Hilt but your posts since i asked about your appearance helped some.

@Swiss - do you mean Chaco and not Chibo?

 

[Swiss]

Ffs yes I do mean Chaco. Similar names and I just re-read the thread where he (Chibo) is in with me.

 

[X1-12]

it may be worth noting that Rajam was online 15 mins ago but did not post. I didn't get to see if he viewed this thread or not

 

[Nix2100]

Ah, I should probably be a bit MORE specific as to why those 3 bug me. Reasoning behind that is like I said before, I really feel like scum is sort of sitting back and watching for the most part, and those 3 in particular posted a good deal, then they all of a sudden dropped off as we got closer and closer to the deadline. I'm betting that at least one of those 3 is scum =P

 

[DtJ Hilt]

Taking a power nap soon, probably not going to be up until some random time tomorrow. So if by some grace of god I'm asleep past deadline (I shouldn't be), I'm comfortable where my vote is. But I should be on tomorrow sometime in the morning.

 

[#HBC | marshy]

Ah, I should probably be a bit MORE specific as to why those 3 bug me. Reasoning behind that is like I said before, I really feel like scum is sort of sitting back and watching for the most part, and those 3 in particular posted a good deal, then they all of a sudden dropped off as we got closer and closer to the deadline. I'm betting that at least one of those 3 is scum =P

do you think that anyone whos active is likelier to be protown?

i have NO idea why you think swiss is protown. neutral maybe. but not protown

swiss' reasoning for wanting chaco is indeed terrible. ate is a lame buzzword and chaco does that all the time. it also isnt hard to understand why player a would be frustrated that town wouldnt lynch player b after hes pushed him all daily

 

[X1-12]

frustrated a bit yeah, maybe

not like this though...

Yeah, this is why I don't play mafia anymore I remember now. Me dying is the best thing that can happen to this game.

I also think he would be determined to change thier minds, rather than just raging and giving up...

 

[#HBC | marshy]

[collapse=current votecount]Unfortunately, the Giant Tree of ever-flowing mana in fairy tales doesn’t exist in the real world. We live by chipping away at the limited amount of available mana.

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Swiss - 5: Chaco, Dr. Riddler, Marshy, Tandora, UTDZac
UTDZac - 4: X1-12, Thinkaman, Sworddancer, Nix2100
Tandora - 1: Rajam
Chaco - 3: Swiss, Hilt, Vult Redux

Not Voting:

Takes 7 / 13 to lynch!

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what the ****? switch

 

[Swiss]

12 hrs 'till deadline.

I'll be back in 7/8 hrs - sleep.

If Chaco wagon isn't beating Zac wagon when I wake - I'll swap back onto him, mainly out of self preservation, same reason he voted me.

 

[#HBC | marshy]

how much access will you have up til deadline nix?

 

[Nix2100]

3 more hours till I sleep, then hmm, hour or two after i wake up.

 

[Chaco]

Marshy is the only player here who is not falling into the wishy washy bull****. And that is a ****ing fact. The rest of you learn to stop waiting on ONE player to do your work for you, all this town has ****ing done besides a few people is exactly this:

"Swiss is scummy but so is zac, well chaco is now too. what should I do? Chaco tell me why swiss is scummy, someone else tell me why zac is scummy, im gonna sit here with my thumb up my *** and piss away scum because im playing to safely for myself to even attack anyone."

I will give this to Swiss, he'll at least bite back. The rest of you, jesus, you just sit there and stare.

X1, have you ever played a game with me? I ALWAYS get frustrated when I think people are playing stupidly which makes me get quite angry and rage post. When I rage post people get all like "AtE!", then I just want to rage harder. Pro-Meta tip, I have never raged as scum and never will because I get to manipulate town which is EXTRAORDINARILY easy with a town like this. I'd practically have to do nothing and let you piss away scum.

Rage post ever, here's the tl;dr:

I'm not scumhunting for you anymore, Ive handed him to you on a nice silver platter.
If you say AtE, I'm liable to bite your head off.
And this town needs to stop being wishy washy pieces of bull**** drifting down a stream in the wind.

This is my last post of the day, I will NOT respond to anything else. Im going to stop reading and reread over night if I make it until then. If I dont I can cancel the prescription for blood pressure medication. If Swiss doesn't die and Zac does...there will be a ****storm D2.

 

[Tandora]

Ah, I should probably be a bit MORE specific as to why those 3 bug me. Reasoning behind that is like I said before, I really feel like scum is sort of sitting back and watching for the most part, and those 3 in particular posted a good deal, then they all of a sudden dropped off as we got closer and closer to the deadline. I'm betting that at least one of those 3 is scum =P

I mentioned well in advance a couple of times I would be V/LA near deadline. Been in the car all day going to a convention. Manged to grab internet for a few minutes.

I really don't like last minute wagons, but I have seen where they work. I don't think I'll be able to be back on before the deadline, so whatever I vote now will be my vote until the end of the day.

I just cannot vote for Chaco. I have pushed too hard for Swiss who is promoting Chaco's lynch. I know Chaco's reaction is bad, but I see it more as frustrated townie than scum. I would be mad too if a last minute lynch hit me as scum.

I am going to have to stay on Swiss. I don't know if this is the right play, but it's what I am comfortable with.

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

Relax, Chaco, I asked you about Swiss so to see what you would say. My threat to vote for you was also part of this. I actually already have an opinion on why Swiss scummy.

Anyways, I don't believe scum would do what Chaco just did. He didn't have to get angry like that, there still are a lot of other bandwagons, and scum would of probably not blown up like Chaco just did, since they don't want to upset the town. On top of that, if he did actually comply with what I asked him to, then that could of been interpertaed as scum trying to please own as much as town truly trying to be helpful.


I am worried about his buddying of Marshy he did, as well as the WIFOMish part about "I always rage as town!" but I can't tell rather or not this was intential or just done out of his massive amounts of testosterone (I kid! I kid! . . .


please don't bite my head off . . .)

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

Oh, forgot part of the post. . .

(continued from previouse post) So, yeah, I'm not in support of a Chaco lynch right now.

I'm going to go on and put Swiss at L_1 in 10 minutes.

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

unvote vote Swiss

 

[Nix2100]

Swords - You've had Zac voted for awhile now, Why change your vote?

 

[Rajam]

First:
unvote

My apologies for not being more active. Now, some posts I have a word on:

Done. Question for you: If they choose to lynch me, what are you goals for Day 2 (assuming you don't get NKed)?



Not much scumhunting at all. I've drawn a lot of attention to myself Today, which should give town plenty of posts to review and help find a few scum guys. Sorry I can't be more helpful by analyzing other's posts as much as I'd like. =(



If I were town, why would scum hammer me as soon as they could? Wouldn't that put a lot of suspicion on that player that he/she was scum? If I were scum, then another scum could hammer me (knowing i was a buddy) just to get me to flip scum and reduce suspicion on him/her. Either way, I don't think it's ever a good idea to hammer without the final word from the rest of town giving the OK.

And what's this about me not being allowed to respond to your accusations? You said that I wasn't as inactive as you originally thought and my activity wasn't suspicious to you... but then you said "I don't care." You don't care about any of the positive information you found about me? Were you merely looking for the "nail in the coffin" and disregarded anything that wasn't that? I really haven't liked your play against me most of Today.



But both me and swiss have 5 votes each? You and me are the only ones not voting atm... I'm confused.



Just noticed this response as I refreshed before posting.

Wow you are really quick to jump on me. Does the rest of town think it's a bit much for X to stalk me like that? I mean seriously, how can you expect me to respond to all the questions I get between visits in such a short amount of time. It just so happened I visited and posted in the sonic mafia first before coming to this one.

At any rate, I joined the Sonic game because 1) Xiivi invited me to it 2) My back is feeling much better and as a result 3) I'm able to spend more time on the computer now (mostly doing work stuff).

X, you've been applying a ridiculous amount of pressure to me, as well as doing quite a bit of investigative work yourself. Why are you so determined that I'm scum? What's your main reasoning?

At the beginning of this Day I was pretty convinced that you were just a rookie townie, but as the day advances and still no scumhunt from you, I'm really starting to wonder if you are using the "rookie" card and if you are or not scum. The sentence in color seems to me like AtE despite you openly recognize no scumhunt. You have said that now you can post more, so, who is your pick? you have a valid john on the doctor issue, but now that you've stated you're feeling better, you should present your scummy picks before the deadline...

Guys, I'm pretty sure Zac is town. After rereading I'm pretty **** positive, that's not to say that I could be terribly wrong however, I feel this is a case of a new player. He exhibited what I'll call a tell from my beginning meta, and it lines up as town in my book. I don't see scum using it, and I think he's good to go for now. If he continuously gets scummier we can lynch him, however, Zac is NOT the play today.

Read him for yourself, and make your own decision.

Care to explain in more detail? What have you found on Zac that makes him so clean to you? I've checked and the only thing I see is no scum-hunting from Zac + the vote without a good reason against Swiss + minor contradicitions on his claim (although most probably it was some wording mistake or some dumb lecture mistake but it's not that sure)

Oooooh

When I said "I don't like this" it's cuz he's close to being lynched and I'm the only replacement. What he did was a major town tell, so I do NOT like the situation we're in.


Maybe I should specify WHAT I don't like - I tend to take certain things for granted when I post.

Regardless of Swiss alliance, he is right in the sense that there are only two scum picks for toDay (I guess something started on Chaco which I'll check more now). If both Swiss and Zac are town, what are we doing next? I also don't like the people who have said "if Zac/Swiss is town then we lynch/ask for a possible vigilante to kill the other"... imo if one of them flips town, it hardly tell us something about the other. Those who have said that if one of them flips town we kill the other, must tell us why is that so.

Have I been on Zac really any this day Swiss? It is not because of you, trust me, I dont gauge my scumhunting off of anyone. I spearhead who I think is scum, which is you.

Also, I dont remember you calling Zac town. I mighta skipped over it, but Ill go look as it's probably a tactic to make you look town since you're pointing it out in this regard. You want it publicized cause he's near a lynch and you want people to think you're town. After attacking Zac this makes you look even worse truly.

You're going to be the lynch. If not, I will seriously facepalm.

If you are town, I think you're falling into severe tunneling in here. Even if Swiss is scum there should be at least other 2~3 more scum. If Swiss is scum, who do you think are his scummy buddies?

I refuse to beleive Zac is a noob townie on the basis that he's been called out as scum for avoiding answering questions but he's still doing it, a bad townie would not have made that mistake twice




What, The, ****


and earlier swiss was overreacting... LOL




for the record:

Zac is on 3
Chaco is on 3
Swiss is on 4

This represents my thoughts on Zac at the moment. Although I'd still say Zac is town, I wouldn't put my hands on fire for that, and he needs to improve and scumhunt.

should we keep chaco alive just to irritate him?

I don't like this statement. Is probably nothing more than a joke, but anyways what did you intend to acomplish with this post X1-12?

 

[#HBC | marshy]

deadlines early tomorrow rajam. plan on voting?