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Sydney Smash Thread - Comrades Of Xeno -
- Thread starter Jaz
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ComboTurtle
Smash Lord
ggxx mvc2 =]]]]]]]]
ComboTurtle
Smash Lord
yep probably not
Heaven Or Hell
Regarding what Turtle said (and yes holy crap I want to play MVC2!!!!!!), GGXX lets you spend half your super bar (equal to one super move) to instantly cancel all lag of an attack.. which means you can link together a long combo, and then cancel the massive lag and allow for sweet custom combos when you just decide to do that extra damage..
MVC2 just looks awesome. Death combos rock, and games are about power not balance! Infinite = :
@Ebar: GGs again. Tbh I don't think you can avoid tech-chasing if the tech-chaser performs it properly. You can try to mix up which direction tech though (and teching towards/away from the ledge/stage is a common mindgame mixup whenever you get hit near the ledge). The reality is though, if the tech-chaser executes OR guesses correctly, you get hit.. I have realized this and think it's awesome hehe. I really like that about Smash.. there are "unavoidable" combos, but the defender can *try* to get out of them and will succeed, unless the attacker does something additional.. it's a mad escalation of technique. Smash is unique in this fashion of allowing the defender to attempt a combo-escape, yet ultimately it cannot be stopped (if it is a combo).
Ah, but things you can avoid: Mindgaming out of a laggy (often kill) move, eg Marth's F-Smash I think you have to predict the tech-roll.. or be freakishly AWESOME at reading and reacting to the direction of their roll.. *muses*
I propose the "sydney smash scene" get into other fighters besides Smash.. it was great playing Guilty Gear at the tournament against CT, CS and Zaidou.
Street Fighter 2 Turbo Remix anyone?
MVC2.. GGXX or AC.. and this masterpiece:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lA9txda3FdM&eurl=http://kotaku.com/ thank you Kulla
Regarding what Turtle said (and yes holy crap I want to play MVC2!!!!!!), GGXX lets you spend half your super bar (equal to one super move) to instantly cancel all lag of an attack.. which means you can link together a long combo, and then cancel the massive lag and allow for sweet custom combos when you just decide to do that extra damage..
MVC2 just looks awesome. Death combos rock, and games are about power not balance! Infinite = :
@Ebar: GGs again. Tbh I don't think you can avoid tech-chasing if the tech-chaser performs it properly. You can try to mix up which direction tech though (and teching towards/away from the ledge/stage is a common mindgame mixup whenever you get hit near the ledge). The reality is though, if the tech-chaser executes OR guesses correctly, you get hit.. I have realized this and think it's awesome hehe. I really like that about Smash.. there are "unavoidable" combos, but the defender can *try* to get out of them and will succeed, unless the attacker does something additional.. it's a mad escalation of technique. Smash is unique in this fashion of allowing the defender to attempt a combo-escape, yet ultimately it cannot be stopped (if it is a combo).
Ah, but things you can avoid: Mindgaming out of a laggy (often kill) move, eg Marth's F-Smash I think you have to predict the tech-roll.. or be freakishly AWESOME at reading and reacting to the direction of their roll.. *muses*
I propose the "sydney smash scene" get into other fighters besides Smash.. it was great playing Guilty Gear at the tournament against CT, CS and Zaidou.
Street Fighter 2 Turbo Remix anyone?
MVC2.. GGXX or AC.. and this masterpiece:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lA9txda3FdM&eurl=http://kotaku.com/ thank you Kulla
Fighter Maker ****: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fw3xfBiY0Bs
Fighter Maker "C*nt Punch": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kK0sUTALhg
Imagine if that was a Falcon Punch instead...
Fighter Maker "C*nt Punch": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kK0sUTALhg
Imagine if that was a Falcon Punch instead...
Yes, other then Brawl.
Brawl is Brawl.. however a lot of people are saying they like Melee better. I don't think we as a community should restrict ourselves to just "Smash" games.. we should organize.. and play more games.. CHICKEN SALAD FOR PRESIDENT
Brawl is Brawl.. however a lot of people are saying they like Melee better. I don't think we as a community should restrict ourselves to just "Smash" games.. we should organize.. and play more games.. CHICKEN SALAD FOR PRESIDENT
Hey Kulla, I think I left my jacket at yours. Am I right or should I look for it elsewhere?
*Is back in Perth*
Time to get to training! I need to learn to poon Metaknights.
*Is back in Perth*
Time to get to training! I need to learn to poon Metaknights.
It was a wooly jacket, with pockets on the front. I don't remember what colour it was (darkish, blue or green or black or something) because it was a recent present and I have only worn it once!
I should probably say -
It was great catching up with all you homies again. I really enjoyed the tournament, and thanks to everyone for housing me/gaming/hanging with me etc. You guys rock!
I should probably say -
It was great catching up with all you homies again. I really enjoyed the tournament, and thanks to everyone for housing me/gaming/hanging with me etc. You guys rock!
Jaz
Smash Ace
its not at mine bringer
thanks for coming ^_^
Jumbo chips next time
Edit:
@Xeno proposal:
its called the Sydney Smash Scene, we play smash...
its in the title man what more could you want.
thanks for coming ^_^
Jumbo chips next time
Edit:
@Xeno proposal:
its called the Sydney Smash Scene, we play smash...
its in the title man what more could you want.
* RESISTS VERY HARD TO MAKE A YOUR MOTHER JOKE*
@Dedu: For all We Know barbie's Horsie Adventures could be an undiscovered MASTERPIECE among the Likes of OoT.
And has ANYONE Mentioned Soul Calibur 3? Proof that having two AWESOME Concepts in the Same Game (Ninjas and Pirates) Makes, quite Frankly, a MIND NUMBINGLY ORGASMIC CONCEPT.
ComboTurtle
Smash Lord
S.D
Smash Master
lol..
I'm only stating the obvious =) Whether it's a good or bad thing though, is up to the individual.
I never realised it actually made that much noise until I watched the Brawl vids I uploaded.
And then I realised everytime I was playing a match near the Guilty Gear TV, all I could hear was the same voice saying the same thing over and over (maybe someone was spamming the same move?
)
perpetual ownage
Smash Journeyman
I completely agree with you there. OoT is indeed, the best game ever made and no game could ever be better than it.
@xeno....i agree with jaz. smash scene. i propose we...play smash. for me at least, every other fighter fails incredibly miserably in comparison. not one that i've played can hold a candle. they're all fun in their own right, but...melee just never gets old. at least not up to this point.
@dedu/ownage....pleh, it's been said. i've come to realise in my old age that, for me, nothing tops sonic 2 on mega drive.
ok....get ready for a rant praising melee.
Although…i'm actually tempted to say melee is the greatest game ever...the facts are that a)it's been around for ages/it's still played
b)it's brought people together all around the world...and i mean together, not just f@gs on wow who join guilds and think these e-nubs are their friends when really they're just selfish d!ckheads who care only about their own progression/gearing....S3 has introduced me to a lot of awesome people who i never would have met otherwise, and ours is a small scene in comparison to the larger cities...
c) it never gets old (for me, anyway)…each character has, what…like 15 different attacks or something, there are like 5 stages that we play on…and each game is fresh, is exciting, and goes in a different direction…
smash has provided me with some of the most awesome feelings of gaming prowess i've ever got...the only game-related thing that provide me with similar excitement was figuring out a fatality by myself in mortal kombat two at age...something. and possibly catching articuno.
those nights spent with close friends (one in particular) for years and years, either with alcohol or without, with other people or without, wherever we were...as a precursor to a good night, as something to do after a big night before going to sleep, as a way to kill time after school etc…practicing new moves, discovering and trialing new techniques....evolving gameplay patterns specifically to counter each other's gameplay...not even doing it on purpose, but just a natural progression....
for example, he played samus, i played falco. he shot missiles. i reflected, he got hit. so he started shooting them with no desire to hit me, merely to keep me there for a moment while he approached and hit me with something else...me realising this, and not reflecting...him realising that i'd stopped reflecting, so starting to occasionally shoot them with the intention of hitting and occasionally shooting them to keep me guessing...me realising this, and having to decide every single time whether to reflect or jump, or SHL to reflect to maybe stun him long enough for the missile to hit him, or at least to force him to retreat or shield, so i'd then follow up with a...........you get my point? it took us forever to notice this, and it was absolutely hilarious when we discovered it.
smash is a game that keeps changing. perhaps not as revolutionary as oot, but rather evolutionary. oot is great. i'm not denying that. i've made it my business to complete it at least once a year since it was released, and have kept that up to this day. i've probably completed it more than 25 times in my lifetime which, although maybe not much in a universal standard, is HUGE for my standards. but it never changes. you can watch speed runs to get it done faster, you can collect more skulltulas...but that's it. it's the same game, over and over and over again.
smash is just nail biting enough without being over the top...the speed is **** near perfect, in my opinion. sure, a lot of the techniques are still difficult for me to do, but i mean, they're not out of my reach, just as they're not out of the reach of anyone here.
i've gone from being shown wavedashing by jaz about 5 years ago (maybe more, maybe less) and being shocked by that, to practising doing it for weeks, to finally getting it, and now to have it as stock standard (with some of my characters anyway [OK, OK, FINE! only with samus! what do you people want from me? i'm not that good!])
ive gone from thinking that zelgadis was cheating the first time i watched shined blind - at the time, i didnt know half of the stuff that he was doing i.e. ledgedrop - jump - wavedash - upsmash - to realising that, in fact, he's not that good.
i've picked up SWDs, waveshining, and, most recently, scar kneeing.....
...my point is, the game reveals itself to anyone who puts in the time. i've seen people pick it up and become serious contenders for me in a period of maybe 2 months.
it is a game that, unlike most, has been able to develop away from the technical side as well as together with it...
the thing about OoT, FFVII, all classic games really, is that when we think of them (and by we i mean everyone in S3, noone is old enough to escape this yet) we are enveloped by a sense of nostalgia. Fact is, we were young when we played them. They absolutely blew our minds, which at that time were a lot more impressionable (in most cases) than they are now. by the time melee came out, our minds had already made several quantum leaps in terms of console generation gaps. the change from 2d to 3d, the introduction of numerous genres, storylines, playing styles, etc. we were already weathered when melee came out. How could a simple game like smash compare to the biggest, most complicated game with the best storyline most of us had ever played?
yes, oot was the best game (in almost everyone's opinion) at the time it was released. but, as far as i'm concerned, a statement like that places far too much emphasis on the context of it's release. if, for example, majoras mask had been released with ocarina as a follow-up, do you think people would still consider ocarina the superior game? probably not. maybe, but i doubt it. majora's got a harsh rap for the sole reason that it was compared to ocarina.
What I’m saying is…when considering which is the better game, it’s kind of unfair to compare any game to the juggernaut (*****) that was oot.
(and sorry to involve brawl, but...)
...this is the reason i'm anti-brawl. of course it's young and of course it'll take time to develop. but the fact is, i have history with melee. as i know everyone here does. we've all made it our business to become "that guy", and seek out other "that guy"'s to challenge. and we've met some awesome people on the way.
but we're old now. i'm in university. some of us work full time. i don't have the time to sit at home practicing new techniques, or stay up all night playing games. i wish i did but i don't. i'm sure for the people who are a few years younger than us, who were too young to get seriously into melee, brawl will be a masterpiece in the way melee was for us. i won't be able to play brawl in the same way, with the same conviction, as i played melee.
aside from that i just think it's a better game, plain and simple.
….better than brawl. I totally understand people considering oot a better game than melee. I do too, at the moment. But maybe not for long.
...grats to everyone who read that.
@all....preorder brawl from revo. seriously. it's $80 as far as i know....EB it's $99.95
@dedu/ownage....pleh, it's been said. i've come to realise in my old age that, for me, nothing tops sonic 2 on mega drive.
ok....get ready for a rant praising melee.
Although…i'm actually tempted to say melee is the greatest game ever...the facts are that a)it's been around for ages/it's still played
b)it's brought people together all around the world...and i mean together, not just f@gs on wow who join guilds and think these e-nubs are their friends when really they're just selfish d!ckheads who care only about their own progression/gearing....S3 has introduced me to a lot of awesome people who i never would have met otherwise, and ours is a small scene in comparison to the larger cities...
c) it never gets old (for me, anyway)…each character has, what…like 15 different attacks or something, there are like 5 stages that we play on…and each game is fresh, is exciting, and goes in a different direction…
smash has provided me with some of the most awesome feelings of gaming prowess i've ever got...the only game-related thing that provide me with similar excitement was figuring out a fatality by myself in mortal kombat two at age...something. and possibly catching articuno.
those nights spent with close friends (one in particular) for years and years, either with alcohol or without, with other people or without, wherever we were...as a precursor to a good night, as something to do after a big night before going to sleep, as a way to kill time after school etc…practicing new moves, discovering and trialing new techniques....evolving gameplay patterns specifically to counter each other's gameplay...not even doing it on purpose, but just a natural progression....
for example, he played samus, i played falco. he shot missiles. i reflected, he got hit. so he started shooting them with no desire to hit me, merely to keep me there for a moment while he approached and hit me with something else...me realising this, and not reflecting...him realising that i'd stopped reflecting, so starting to occasionally shoot them with the intention of hitting and occasionally shooting them to keep me guessing...me realising this, and having to decide every single time whether to reflect or jump, or SHL to reflect to maybe stun him long enough for the missile to hit him, or at least to force him to retreat or shield, so i'd then follow up with a...........you get my point? it took us forever to notice this, and it was absolutely hilarious when we discovered it.
smash is a game that keeps changing. perhaps not as revolutionary as oot, but rather evolutionary. oot is great. i'm not denying that. i've made it my business to complete it at least once a year since it was released, and have kept that up to this day. i've probably completed it more than 25 times in my lifetime which, although maybe not much in a universal standard, is HUGE for my standards. but it never changes. you can watch speed runs to get it done faster, you can collect more skulltulas...but that's it. it's the same game, over and over and over again.
smash is just nail biting enough without being over the top...the speed is **** near perfect, in my opinion. sure, a lot of the techniques are still difficult for me to do, but i mean, they're not out of my reach, just as they're not out of the reach of anyone here.
i've gone from being shown wavedashing by jaz about 5 years ago (maybe more, maybe less) and being shocked by that, to practising doing it for weeks, to finally getting it, and now to have it as stock standard (with some of my characters anyway [OK, OK, FINE! only with samus! what do you people want from me? i'm not that good!])
ive gone from thinking that zelgadis was cheating the first time i watched shined blind - at the time, i didnt know half of the stuff that he was doing i.e. ledgedrop - jump - wavedash - upsmash - to realising that, in fact, he's not that good.
i've picked up SWDs, waveshining, and, most recently, scar kneeing.....
...my point is, the game reveals itself to anyone who puts in the time. i've seen people pick it up and become serious contenders for me in a period of maybe 2 months.
it is a game that, unlike most, has been able to develop away from the technical side as well as together with it...
the thing about OoT, FFVII, all classic games really, is that when we think of them (and by we i mean everyone in S3, noone is old enough to escape this yet) we are enveloped by a sense of nostalgia. Fact is, we were young when we played them. They absolutely blew our minds, which at that time were a lot more impressionable (in most cases) than they are now. by the time melee came out, our minds had already made several quantum leaps in terms of console generation gaps. the change from 2d to 3d, the introduction of numerous genres, storylines, playing styles, etc. we were already weathered when melee came out. How could a simple game like smash compare to the biggest, most complicated game with the best storyline most of us had ever played?
yes, oot was the best game (in almost everyone's opinion) at the time it was released. but, as far as i'm concerned, a statement like that places far too much emphasis on the context of it's release. if, for example, majoras mask had been released with ocarina as a follow-up, do you think people would still consider ocarina the superior game? probably not. maybe, but i doubt it. majora's got a harsh rap for the sole reason that it was compared to ocarina.
What I’m saying is…when considering which is the better game, it’s kind of unfair to compare any game to the juggernaut (*****) that was oot.
(and sorry to involve brawl, but...)
...this is the reason i'm anti-brawl. of course it's young and of course it'll take time to develop. but the fact is, i have history with melee. as i know everyone here does. we've all made it our business to become "that guy", and seek out other "that guy"'s to challenge. and we've met some awesome people on the way.
but we're old now. i'm in university. some of us work full time. i don't have the time to sit at home practicing new techniques, or stay up all night playing games. i wish i did but i don't. i'm sure for the people who are a few years younger than us, who were too young to get seriously into melee, brawl will be a masterpiece in the way melee was for us. i won't be able to play brawl in the same way, with the same conviction, as i played melee.
aside from that i just think it's a better game, plain and simple.
….better than brawl. I totally understand people considering oot a better game than melee. I do too, at the moment. But maybe not for long.
...grats to everyone who read that.
@all....preorder brawl from revo. seriously. it's $80 as far as i know....EB it's $99.95
Jaz
Smash Ace
Fonti 4 stocked the thread ._.
I agree with the the majora's point, i like to think it was a better game then OoT but it didn't have as many temples, and all the sages got replaced by weird *** giants ._.
but the temples that were in it! omfg weren't they sweet! and the masks!!!
OoT was the best of its time true, but I'll always like Majora's better, can't help it.
It was the only enemy besides Ganon that got taken seriously... whotf is that zant dude?
And yeah all the older S3 guys... we're busier now, some of us find time for there busy lives and smash and kudos to them. the introduction of brawl, has actually added some keen melee players to the scene as well.
I guess if the people that like melee keep playing it, it can't really die out.
I agree with the the majora's point, i like to think it was a better game then OoT but it didn't have as many temples, and all the sages got replaced by weird *** giants ._.
but the temples that were in it! omfg weren't they sweet! and the masks!!!
OoT was the best of its time true, but I'll always like Majora's better, can't help it.
It was the only enemy besides Ganon that got taken seriously... whotf is that zant dude?
And yeah all the older S3 guys... we're busier now, some of us find time for there busy lives and smash and kudos to them. the introduction of brawl, has actually added some keen melee players to the scene as well.
I guess if the people that like melee keep playing it, it can't really die out.
@Fonti, agreement.
Personally I find Guilty Gear almost as complex as Melee, though much more enjoyable to play at a visceral level (very overt themes, art style where Melee lacks a lot of that). I would also say Metal Gear Online (1) was a better game then Melee, IMHO, but Melee is definitely "at the top, a game might tie it or be a bit better but nothing will dominate it". (Melee / MGO / UT2k4 / Tremulous / GGXX series / Forsaken are the six games I consider to be at that point.. withholding comments on campaign games.)
Other fighting games still fascinate me. Even "simpler" ones like Street Fighter 3 (haven't played it). Which is why I proposed we play other games -- I'm not expecting a scene wide shift, merely looking to see if anyone else would be interested in trying other games.
And I'd love to add to that list of 6.
The.. Melee vs Brawl.... if players are playing "both", but saying Melee is FAR better then Brawl (And not new but different like UT2k4 vs Melee, completely different game set) -- why play Brawl? I am concerned players actively playing both of them will get burned out on Brawl, and then be "burned out on Smash", including Melee, because they played Brawl...
Well, just my 3 cents.
Personally I find Guilty Gear almost as complex as Melee, though much more enjoyable to play at a visceral level (very overt themes, art style where Melee lacks a lot of that). I would also say Metal Gear Online (1) was a better game then Melee, IMHO, but Melee is definitely "at the top, a game might tie it or be a bit better but nothing will dominate it". (Melee / MGO / UT2k4 / Tremulous / GGXX series / Forsaken are the six games I consider to be at that point.. withholding comments on campaign games.)
Other fighting games still fascinate me. Even "simpler" ones like Street Fighter 3 (haven't played it). Which is why I proposed we play other games -- I'm not expecting a scene wide shift, merely looking to see if anyone else would be interested in trying other games.
And I'd love to add to that list of 6.
The.. Melee vs Brawl.... if players are playing "both", but saying Melee is FAR better then Brawl (And not new but different like UT2k4 vs Melee, completely different game set) -- why play Brawl? I am concerned players actively playing both of them will get burned out on Brawl, and then be "burned out on Smash", including Melee, because they played Brawl...
Well, just my 3 cents.
Melbourne Smash has been working alongside GGXX and SF3TS for a year and a half now, and the crossover between players is incredibly low. SF/GG specialists cannot get a stong foothold on playing compeititve Smash, and vice versa. 
It makes the overall vibe of the community more spiffy though, and we all wub each other at the very least and acknowledge each other's games in the competitive realm. The same cannot be said everywhere else
It makes the overall vibe of the community more spiffy though, and we all wub each other at the very least and acknowledge each other's games in the competitive realm. The same cannot be said everywhere else
S.D
Smash Master
I combed over Fonti's spiel with my eye of truth and found there was no falsification.
Jaz
Smash Ace
when did kulla rant?