Legend of Zelda SWF's Legend of Zelda

[Spire]

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The guidelines are simple: all of you will work together to come up with the best Legend of Zelda game concept in Smashboards' collective interest. I will not contribute such a huge amount this time around—if at all—because I felt I influenced the last one too much in my own favor. I will act merely as a supervisor and an organizer of ideas.

Get to work ladies and gents.

This is a spiritual successor to "SWF: Project Zelda".

 

[Tacel]

How about something that involves the origins of the Majora's Mask and the Fierce Deity Mask?

 

[Ganonsburg]

Or maybe something about the Hero of Men? Or maybe the Hero's Shade (if we say Hero's Shade = Hero of Time, we can go into the foundation of Ordon, his probable marriage with Malon, and what hand he had in assisting Hyrule)?

 

[Masky]

Hyrule is in chaos, and a hero rises up... but then the hero meets an unfortunate accident, and Tingle must venture in his place

edit:

idea #2: Tingle is banished from Termina to Hyrule after it is discovered he is selling counterfit maps. In the Lost Woods, the Happy Mask Salesman takes a short nap. Tingle stumbles upon an especially valuable and scary-looking mask and puts it on... Hylians begin to whisper to one another, "Doesn't the moon looks larger than usual these days?"

 

[Clownbot]

This was one of the many deconfirmed rumors from Zelda Informer about Skyward Sword (then simply "Zelda Wii") that I thought would be interesting to see:

"When entering a Dungeon, you will not notice you are in one. It will be a smooth gradation. There will be Dungeons with no Bosses and Bosses with no Dungeon."

I think this would be an interesting step to take with the Dungeons and Bosses here. Technically there have been "dungeons" in the past without bosses but I can't recall any bosses not being found in a dungeon; this might allow for more bosses which would be cool. I've always enjoyed the Zelda bosses (although they are kind of easy a lot of the time; we should tweak the dificulty a bit imo) so more would be welcome to me.

Y/N

(no details on the story from me, I can't think of anything at the moment. I find TAL and Ganonsburg's ideas both interesting. I'm pretty sure Masky was joking but that'd actually make a cool spinoff Tingle game xD)

 

[finalark]

Here's an idea, a Zelda in which that game's Link screws up so badly that someone who isn't Link has to take up the sword. And said character should be the exact opposite in terms of appearance and personality. And then every "traditional" item is kicked to the curb in favor of completely new and original items that are nothing like the usual assortment.

 

[Kingdom Come]

How about, we start from scratch.

We recreate Hyrule or Termina or better yet we create our own land. It's a new Link, new Zelda, new villain. We create new weapons. We give it a new story, not a OMG save the princess. But something more. That's my first proposal.

 

[Lore]

I just had an idea.

What if this 'future zelda' wasn't really in the future, but in the past?

As in, the world becomes destroyed/mainly destroyed and somehow magic comes into the mix. Maybe the Goddesses were actually scientists who created the triforce/the sacred realm as a way to seal away all that radiation? And as a result of this dimensional stuff, Magic came into the mix somehow.

It could be set right after the triforce is made, when people are being born with strange powers/characteristics. It could explain how Gorons, Zora, etc were made. Not only that, but the 'scientists' could have been changed into much more powerful forms by the Triforce's power. This would make them be actual 'goddesses.'

It could even have the first Link, Ganon, and Zelda in it. They could be some of the first to gain powers, or even the ability to 'sync' with one of the triforces. Guardians, if you will. Maybe Ganon was corrupted, and he tried to destroy everything. He may have nearly succeeded in destroying everything. Link and Zelda may have beaten him, but he may have used his power to throw his soul into a cycle of reincarnation, but the individual new Ganon's have no ememories of the past Ganon's, but the same base personality, facial features, etc. In order to combat this, Link and Zelda did the same thing.

Also, maybe they recreated the world after it was almost destroyed, which would get rid of all traces of high tech machinery.

Anyone like this idea? It's kinda rough, but I do.

Anyone remember this? :3

 

[libertyernie]

This was one of the many deconfirmed rumors from Zelda Informer about Skyward Sword (then simply "Zelda Wii") that I thought would be interesting to see:

"When entering a Dungeon, you will not notice you are in one. It will be a smooth gradation. There will be Dungeons with no Bosses and Bosses with no Dungeon."

That would be just like Crusader of Centy / Soleil, the 1994 Sega game.

@Werekill: What if it were set during the Industrial Revolution? The LoZ series is no stranger to branched timelines.

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

I think the villan should be majora, who possesed gannondorf and used him as a front.

 

[Tacel]

Something really crazy would be for it to take place within the 7 years that OoT Link is in the Temple of Time, but this Link living in Termina. At some point this Link leaves Termina to go into Hyrule to stop COMPLETE chaos in Hyrule while OoT Link is gone, but having to go unseen by Ganondorf. This part of the story would be short. After that this Link goes back to Termina to fight the true evil that he must face (Fierce Deity, anyone?).

Here's an idea, a Zelda in which that game's Link screws up so badly that someone who isn't Link has to take up the sword. And said character should be the exact opposite in terms of appearance and personality. And then every "traditional" item is kicked to the curb in favor of completely new and original items that are nothing like the usual assortment.

Answer to blue - Tingle
Answer to green - Magic

Naw. I like this idea, though.


And I like Clownbot's idea, too.

 

[Masky]

The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Map

 

[Ganonsburg]

How about, we start from scratch.

We recreate Hyrule or Termina or better yet we create our own land. It's a new Link, new Zelda, new villain. We create new weapons. We give it a new story, not a OMG save the princess. But something more. That's my first proposal.

Ooooh, maybe something where we get to control Ganon for once? Or Zelda?

For the controlling Zelda one, I'm having two ideas. One is kind of taking TAL's idea, and we are Zelda during the seven years Link is gone, as she's hiding from Ganon, learning Sheikah magic, and maybe protecting her citizens. The game would start when OoT starts, and end when OoT ends, but the focus of the game would be during the seven years, and the part prior would be like the Lost Woods was to Link.

Second control-Zelda idea: There's a prophecy from someone (Sheikah, or maybe the stars, or maybe handed down in the Hyrule Royal family, etc) that a great evil is coming (not necessarily Ganon, but it could be), and that she needs to A) prepare the nation for it (hiding various keys to the Master Sword or or Temple of Time or whatever in dungeons, etc) B) prepare the nation for the arrival of the prophesied hero C) find the hero and D) teach and assist the hero.

As for controlling Ganon, I have a lot of ideas in my head. We could have elements of RTS games as Ganon raises his army for battle against Hyrule. Or elements of FPS games where there are a lot of huge battles to be fought, and key points to be captured. But if we were to go with the control-Ganon idea, I would like it to have some incredible army battles. Or even navy battles (if we decide to give Hyrule an ocean or something, similar to Termina).

EDIT: As for the bosses without dungeons (which I love the idea of), WW kind of had that with the Big Octos, PH had the idea with the monsters that protected the islands, and ST had the idea with the Rocktites, and I'm sure there are more, except those were rather easy to beat. I like the idea though, except we wouldn't just have random clones of one boss lying around the map randomly. They would be actual bosses, with the same kind of individuality that the others have (oxymoron, haha).

Also, seeing as bosses are so cool, I think in the main town there should be a fortune teller that gives you the option of letting her hypnotize you and have you remember some of your greatest fears/enemies/whatever we want to call it, and then you'd basically go into a boss battle mode. We could have the options as allowing you to choose which boss battles you want individually, or do a complete run. Maybe we could have it so that you unlock the battles by going on sidequests (obviously the sidequests would come after the boss has been beaten already in the dungeon or wherever), or we could just have it be unlocked immediately upon defeating the boss (kind of lame, because you have less replay value).

 

[libertyernie]

Here's an idea we probably won't use: What if you control an octorok? Yes, an octorok. Your quest would be to find out who you are and why you are sentient. Along the way, you become different monsters, and eventually people of all the different races. And at the end... you DON'T become Link. BAM. Surprised?

 

[Dragoon Fighter]

What if some huge threat was big enough to force link, zelda, and ganon to work together to save hyrule.

Edit: and all three were playible chareters.

 

[Pimpfish]

it should be called the "legend of zildo" to avoid copy write infringment

 

[Ganonsburg]

Eh, I personally don't think Ganon should team up with Link and Zelda. He's generally the bad guy who forces everyone else to team up anyway, what's the fun in replacing him with another? Anyway, Ganon is evil to the core, so how could we one-up him with another? However, we could find another villain for Link and Zelda to team up with, that isn't so evil (although to be frank, most of the villains in Zelda games are very serious, unlike other franchises like Mario).

See, I could see them teaming up with villains such as Zant, who are more misguided and jealous than they are evil (although before we found out about Ganon, Zant certainly seemed to be pure evil). However, most of the big bads are straight up evil (or insane enough to disqualify them from being good). Ganon, Vaati, Malludus, Bellum, Majora's Mask, are what I can think of.

That's just my personal opinion though.

 

[Dragoon Fighter]

Eh, I personally don't think Ganon should team up with Link and Zelda. He's generally the bad guy who forces everyone else to team up anyway, what's the fun in replacing him with another? Anyway, Ganon is evil to the core, so how could we one-up him with another? However, we could find another villain for Link and Zelda to team up with, that isn't so evil (although to be frank, most of the villains in Zelda games are very serious, unlike other franchises like Mario).

See, I could see them teaming up with villains such as Zant, who are more misguided and jealous than they are evil (although before we found out about Ganon, Zant certainly seemed to be pure evil). However, most of the big bads are straight up evil (or insane enough to disqualify them from being good). Ganon, Vaati, Malludus, Bellum, Majora's Mask, are what I can think of.

That's just my personal opinion though.

Well... I do agree with you ganon IS evil to the core, however he wants to rule hyrule right so if he had bad guy compation in other words another bad guy wanting to rule hyrule he might have a problem with that I could imagen him teaming up with said bad guy but what if said bad guy did not whant is help and was powerful enough to take out ganon. What would you do in ganon shoes. Get help is what I would do, and who would be an enemy of ganons enemy (or at least this one in petecular). Link, savor of hyrule. So I could see ganon working together with link just to take out this one guy and get himself closer to ruleing hyrule. Of course eventualy after that threat is gone ganon will try to take over hyrule and link will stop him but with this set-up at least for part of the game ganon will be a playible chariter.

 

[Ganonsburg]

Well... I do agree with you ganon IS evil to the core, however he wants to rule hyrule right so if he had bad guy compation in other words another bad guy wanting to rule hyrule he might have a problem with that I could imagen him teaming up with said bad guy but what if said bad guy did not whant is help and was powerful enough to take out ganon. What would you do in ganon shoes. Get help is what I would do, and who would be an enemy of ganons enemy (or at least this one in petecular). Link, savor of hyrule. So I could see ganon working together with link just to take out this one guy and get himself closer to ruleing hyrule. Of course eventualy after that threat is gone ganon will try to take over hyrule and link will stop him but with this set-up at least for part of the game ganon will be a playible chariter.

Maybe. It all feels really cliche to me though, and any way I try to think of it to make it sound good just makes it sound worse. I think someone else's input is needed on this.

 

[Lore]

What if some huge threat was big enough to force link, zelda, and ganon to work together to save hyrule.

Edit: and all three were playible chareters.

We could easily do this with what I posted earlier.

I just had an idea.

What if this 'future zelda' wasn't really in the future, but in the past?

As in, the world becomes destroyed/mainly destroyed and somehow magic comes into the mix. Maybe the Goddesses were actually scientists who created the triforce/the sacred realm as a way to seal away all that radiation? And as a result of this dimensional stuff, Magic came into the mix somehow.

It could be set right after the triforce is made, when people are being born with strange powers/characteristics. It could explain how Gorons, Zora, etc were made. Not only that, but the 'scientists' could have been changed into much more powerful forms by the Triforce's power. This would make them be actual 'goddesses.'

It could even have the first Link, Ganon, and Zelda in it. They could be some of the first to gain powers, or even the ability to 'sync' with one of the triforces. Guardians, if you will. Maybe Ganon was corrupted, and he tried to destroy everything. He may have nearly succeeded in destroying everything. Link and Zelda may have beaten him, but he may have used his power to throw his soul into a cycle of reincarnation, but the individual new Ganon's have no memories of the past Ganon's, but the same base personality, facial features, etc. In order to combat this, Link and Zelda did the same thing.

Also, maybe they recreated the world after it was almost destroyed, which would get rid of all traces of high tech machinery.

Anyone like this idea? It's kinda rough, but I do.

It could be similar to Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep, where you control 3 different characters who have 3 different storylines. Each one has a unique story, and each one also affects the others (character a can destroy town 1, b can help rebuild, etc etc).

Ganon's story can be about him gaining power and being corrupted by something, Zelda's story can be about her suspecting Ganon of treachery, and Link can be set after Ganon is turned evil.

By the way, I absolutely hate huge blocks of text. Try to use paragraphs and basic grammar, please.

 

[Dragoon Fighter]

Maybe. It all feels really cliche to me though, and any way I try to think of it to make it sound good just makes it sound worse. I think someone else's input is needed on this.

Well... yes I can see were you are coming from but think about it. with this set up you can have multi-player and ulike four swords each one is different, instead of link link link and link, it is link, zelda, ganon, and tingle. yes, I agree with you I would also like someone elses input.

Edit: did not see werekill's post

 

[Masky]

with this set up you can have multi-player and ulike four swords each one is different, instead of link link link and link, it is link, zelda, ganon, and tingle.

that would be beyond ridiculous

 

[Lore]

Well... yes I can see were you are coming from but think about it. with this set up you can have multi-player and ulike four swords each one is different, instead of link link link and link, it is link, zelda, ganon, and tingle. yes, I agree with you I would also like someone elses input.

Edit: did not see werekill's post

Link, Zelda, Ganon, and Tingle? That sounds like a bad idea, and it would be too hard to explain that in an entertaining, non-cheesy plot.

I've got another idea, I'll explain more later. It'll basically be what I said earlier, but without the post-future elements.

 

[Dragoon Fighter]

Is it the tingle that is making people Mad?
he just popped into head.
I just could not think of an other fourth character at the time.

 

[Clownbot]

I'm not a huge fan of the whole Ganon-Link-Zelda teamup thing. I guess it's the majority's decision, though.

Also had an idea for a main antagonist (or just a major one with there still being a greater threat). Might post it later, I'm still thinking about it a little to see if there's anything I want to add or remove. For now I'll say this, because it relates to my idea: What would you guys think about Dark Link's origin being explored?

 

[Lore]

Is it the tingle that is making people Mad?
he just popped into head.
I just could not think of an other fourth character at the time.

It was just the team up in general. It just seemed a bit cheesy to me, and if we made a game like that, then the plot would be utterly ridiculous.

I'm not a huge fan of the whole Ganon-Link-Zelda teamup thing. I guess it's the majority's decision, though.

Also had an idea for a main antagonist (or just a major one with there still being a greater threat). Might post it later, I'm still thinking about it a little to see if there's anything I want to add or remove. For now I'll say this, because it relates to my idea: What would you guys think about Dark Link's origin being explored?

Dark Link shouldn't really have an "origin." He's just a manifestation of evil that was created by Ganon, right?

I would love to make a game that explored the true origins of the world, like I've said earlier. I'll work on it tomorrow.

 

[Dragoon Fighter]

http://www.zeldawiki.org/Dark_Link
His orgins are really a matter of debate.

 

[Clownbot]

Was it ever confirmed that Ganon created him?

EDIT: Sort of ninja'd

 

[Sgt. Baker]

What happens if all the various LoZ adventures/timelines got distorted and entangled within each other because of some sort of "magic hax"? lol think of it as a very broad Greatest Hits haha

Overview:
The various Links (OoT Link, WW Link, ALttP Link, OoA/S Link, TP Link etc. and so on) all confused but with different strentghs and weaknesses meet up. They are quickly thrown into their greatest quest to uncover the mystery of the distorted timelines and to save their (and everyone's) lives absolute destruction of existance because these worlds shouldn't be interacting- it's against the pre-fated destiny of each world.


.....eh?

 

[Lore]

Was it ever confirmed that Ganon created him?

EDIT: Sort of ninja'd

No, but it's implied.

@Baker: No.

 

[Clownbot]

How so?

(I'm not trying to whine/press my idea or anything, sorry if it seems that way )

 

[Tacel]

Ooo, Dark Link. I would love for him to be in this.

So, does anybody like the idea of going back and forth from Hyrule to Termina?

 

[Sgt. Baker]

I could see Dark Link just being like a puppet/general-type? for the main big bad. Like being manifested and acting on the evil's behalf.

 

[Dragoon Fighter]

Ooo, Dark Link. I would love for him to be in this.

So, does anybody like the idea of going back and forth from Hyrule to Termina?

I would like a revisit to termina but what for why would link (not the hero of time link) need to go there mabey pick up a few thing sure but what need would there be.

by the way if you can make an excuse to go back think how awsome that would be.
termina's tech does seem higher than hyrules so mabey in 200 years or so termina would have developed firearms that can take the place of the bow or be it's back up?

 

[Tacel]

I'd rather skydive off of Skyloft than see firearms in a Zelda game, but that's just me.

 

[Dragoon Fighter]

Ohhh Sky diving is also fun! great idea AceLucario

Edit: complements to you first a termina revisit and then sky diving you are good at this idea creation stuff. (also I am not being sarcastic this post is 100% serious)

 

[Ganonsburg]

We could easily do this with what I posted earlier.



It could be similar to Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep, where you control 3 different characters who have 3 different storylines. Each one has a unique story, and each one also affects the others (character a can destroy town 1, b can help rebuild, etc etc).

Ganon's story can be about him gaining power and being corrupted by something, Zelda's story can be about her suspecting Ganon of treachery, and Link can be set after Ganon is turned evil.

By the way, I absolutely hate huge blocks of text. Try to use paragraphs and basic grammar, please.

I've never played KH, but what you describe there I could live with (and it sounds pretty cool). I do like the idea of controlling Ganon and Zelda instead of/in addition to Link, but as I said before I don't like the idea of them teaming up. It's just too cliche (and as you said, Werekill, cheesy).


If we're returning to Termina, I'd say a good reason would be that the connection between the two worlds has grown, so the Hyrule and Termina interact more on a daily basis now, mostly in a trade sort of relationship. But now, due to the differences in beliefs, Termina or Hyrule attacks the other (Termina may attack Hyrule because Termina dislikes/hates the gods, or Hyrule attacks to bring Termina back to the gods). It's Link's job now to either destroy the bonds that link them, or to bring peace about somehow (which would be stated in game, and we could have it so that the player actively chooses which one).

I think a game like that would be cool, because rather than having Link going on to fight one specific person who's hellbent on controlling the world, he's preventing two whole nations from completely crippling themselves. The game would be about the people that you interact with, even moreso than MM was. You would be saving these people from themselves, rather than some faceless enemy (faceless to the people, I mean).

Of course, there would be a final boss, maybe some third party who's been manipulating everything thus far (I'd prefer not, it's cliche), or something. But the game would be about the people you're saving, not the enemy you're defeating, making Link a much more interesting hero.

And, because of the social interactions in the game, it would definitely be a great game to place in Termina, because Termina as we know it so far is one of the most human places in the Zelda universe.

 

[Dragoon Fighter]

Just for chuckles and giggles I am going to say that we should do a zelda game with mario, or vice versa.

 

[Ganonsburg]

Just for chuckles and giggles I am going to say that we should do a zelda game with mario, or vice versa.

http://www.zeldawiki.org/Talon
http://www.zeldawiki.org/Ingo
http://www.zeldawiki.org/Cheep-Cheep
http://www.zeldawiki.org/Goomba
http://www.zeldawiki.org/Piranha_Plant
http://www.zeldawiki.org/Pokey
http://www.zeldawiki.org/Thwimp
http://www.zeldawiki.org/Thwomp

Done.

 

[Tacel]

Just for chuckles and giggles I am going to say that we should do a zelda game with mario, or vice versa.

Lol, well Link's Awakening sort of did that. They had Mario enemies in it. We could do that, too. It would be interesting.

As for Ganonsburg's idea, I really like it, but I'm not sure if we can work dungeons into it, but I sort of have a solution that probably a lot wouldn't like.

Okay, so Hyrule attacks Termina because they don't believe in the gods and they refuse to. Hyrule thinks that the gods would be greatful for their actions. Link has to go to the Sacred Realm to confront the gods and tell them whats up. Link has to find the three keys that will teleport him to the Sacred Realm. While there, he has to go through a series of dungeons to reach the gods. When he does...

and that's all I have.

EDIT: Ninjaaaaa'd!