Social Swamp's Social Thread 3 - And now, the end is near, and so I face the final curtain...

[Pazzo.]

I legitimately want Sakurai to add slots just to mess with people.

Although it would leave a large hole in my heart because even though he has no chance, it coulda been the biggest boss of all. ;_;

You madman... Wishing that kind of a catastrophic event on us? Your sadism must know you bounds.



But seriously, we'd never hear the end of "leaks" is that happened.

 

[Tree Gelbman]

Is it Feb yet?

Can we have Bayonetta?

Just Bayonetta. Because what's a Corrin?!

 

[AreJay25]

I can see it now.

Sakurai is going to add a Wolf placeholder.

It will contain brand new voice clips, as well as a new victory theme. There's even a model.

Only the dataminers export the model and it's just Fox's gray alt.

 

[Dravidian]

Chris Chan was notorious for being incredibly unhinged. He wasn't even just a "Sonic fanbase" thing, he was his own thing entirely.



I didn't say people could see a character's full potential, but just the general idea of who's REALLY good and REALLY bad. Sheik's frame data (or lack thereof) is largely why she is so good and she had that in the demo. It's an obvious thing that anyone can see.

I wasn't talking about the demo, but even so that's only a really basic idea of the characters. A character looking good on paper doesnt give enough info. Yes, shiek has good frame data, but she's relatively hard to control precisely and her ko moves are hard to use due to timing and range. As a result it typically takes her a long time to ko an opponent, which gives them more time to mount a comeback (this isn't too bad considering her light weight status). And even though we may see a few good shieks, we seldom see her outright body someone at high level. There's a reason the shieks placing at the top of tournaments are typically the same people.

Shiek is a good character, but only in the right hands. The fact that it takes a ton of skill to actually use her at a high level is a form of weakness. That's not something that can be ignored because of frame data. It's sorta like nunchaku. Sure they can be powerful, but if you don't have the ability to use them right they're piece of ****.

It's the difference between a random Rosalina and Dabuzz's Rosalina. Frame data is important, but ehere's a lot more to take into account and most of those things can change.

 

[ChikoLad]

ffs

i thought we were done with this ****

https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/3zr27q/smash_bros_news_in_nintendo_direct_coming_on/


True. Although I distinctly remember some competitive players giving him some praise. ZeRo in particular thought he was pretty good (but then again it's ZeRo).

Well, that statement isn't untrue. Bowser actually is pretty good in this game. Not incredibly dominant but there are some players able to do fairly well with him.

One of the best Smash players in Ireland is a Bowser main, and I have actually played with him online and yeah, he's phenomenal, and makes me almost believe Bowser could be top tier material (not literally but seriously, his play can be so immaculate). He doesn't actually play in tournaments much though, mostly just plays friendlies with tournament players. He could definitely tak tournaments with his Bowser though (and actually did win the first Smash 3DS tournament at Eirtakon 2014).

It's the difference between a random Rosalina and Dabuzz's Rosalina. Frame data is important, but ehere's a lot more to take into account and most of those things can change.

Well Dabuz's Rosalina play is...debatable, but I won't bring that here.

In general though, Sheik isn't the hardest character to use since while her KO power is low, her speed and frame data allow her to chase opponents down and easily bop them off. Even at a novice level, she easily stands out as one of the best in the game.

 

[Z25]

ffs

i thought we were done with this ****

https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/3zr27q/smash_bros_news_in_nintendo_direct_coming_on/


True. Although I distinctly remember some competitive players giving him some praise. ZeRo in particular thought he was pretty good (but then again it's ZeRo).

Alright good! MY bingo has 3 things right off the bat! This is going to be good!

Spoiler

but this person barely tried... It's not happening. Surprised it took this long for wolf leaks though.

 

[ChikoLad]

While I don't think Wolf is incredibly likely at this point (or anyone for that matter), I'm gonna play devil's advocate and say that him popping up as a surprise based on the information we have is not impossible. Sakurai did say Bayonetta was the last new challenger...as in, new character that hasn't been in Smash before. That technically doesn't rule out veterans.

The Final Video Presentation did really feel final, but technically doesn't rule out a "one last surprise" kind of thing, especially if it was revealed in a non-video format. We already know there is one mystery trophy that is unannounced.

 

[Z25]

New year's resolution options:

#1: Get fit
#2: Be Wario pic.twitter.com/nXwLCQhzy5

— Nintendo of Europe (@NintendoEurope) January 5, 2016

Lol this is pretty good. I also like this one:

Should Bowser add “Attend anger management courses” to his list of resolutions? pic.twitter.com/l97qleZiiH

— Nintendo of America (@NintendoAmerica) January 5, 2016

The adopt the chain chomp reminds me of Mario RPG.

Also Game Theory confiirmed! Bowser adopts everyone!

 

[Swamp Sensei]

While I don't think Wolf is incredibly likely at this point (or anyone for that matter), I'm gonna play devil's advocate and say that him popping up as a surprise based on the information we have is not impossible. Sakurai did say Bayonetta was the last new challenger...as in, new character that hasn't been in Smash before. That technically doesn't rule out veterans.

The Final Video Presentation did really feel final, but technically doesn't rule out a "one last surprise" kind of thing, especially if it was revealed in a non-video format. We already know there is one mystery trophy that is unannounced.

...

@PushDustIn









On another note, I know these leaks are lol worthy and annoying but let's not rag on Wolf or his fans for this stuff.

 

[Pazzo.]

Ladies and Gentlemen, we've known what the fox really says.

Spoiler: Bad Melee Joke

..and he has a lot to say.

 

[Dravidian]

In general though, Sheik isn't the hardest character to use since while her KO power is low, her speed and frame data allow her to chase opponents down and easily bop them off.

Partially true. She's a monster when percentage is low, but at higher percentages it's harder to "bop them off". She has three reliable kill moves, but they're all situational and are not particulatly hard to avoid: if shiek is on the ground and you're above her --> upsmash; are you both in the air near the top of the stage --> up air; is the opponent off the stage and trying to recover --> bouncing fish. Her frame data is good, but her gameplan is pretty basic due to her kill moves being so situational.

Even at a novice level, she easily stands out as one of the best in the game.

I'm just gonna straight up disagree here. Technical character that relies on combos, but has difficulty KOing opponents and has situational ko moves =/= stands out at novice level. I may be wrong but I've yet to see evidence of that.

 

[Burruni]

So.
Now that I took care of Nintendo's "Big 4."
I'mma start on the other Smash 64 series.
Let's keep going with Day 6!

aka a textwall about a character we all know the matters around.

Spoiler

Metroid... has been and currently is a flaky series. While having mostly well-recieved games, the series goes for serious gaps of time without any titles. Since Other M's very heated release, all we have seen is the announcement for the spin-off of Federation Forces. This is a series of fairly high demand for a newcomer but it's not on the best footing, as scary as that is to day.

Ridley: The Elephant in the Room. Ridley, being one of the single most requested character for Brawl and Smash 4. Neglected. Why? Sakurai's reasoning in Brawl being that he didn't really work through the idea and that "it'd likely be impossible; but if it were to happen... he'd be a bit slow." This got affirmed after the release of Smash 4. Sakurai's interview basically stating that he felt that the intimidation that comes from Ridley fits far better in a Boss form than that of a fighter. But... let's seriously talk about Ridley's obstacle(s) and what changes would benefit if not be needed.

A lot of people dumb down Ridley's issue as being "Too Big." Let's.. look at this. In Metroid NES, Ridley was the same size as Samus... in a form that HARDLY resembles the character we know and looks more like a mutant Birdo. In later 2D games, Ridley is seen being about 2 to 3 times Samus's size... but most often very "crunched up," with his attacks namely being his flame breath and deadly tail instead of full ranged movement... partially due to limitations. The best we've seen Ridley move organically is when he's at his largest in ratio to Samus; the 3D titles. Prime 1, 3, and Other M.

Yes, Ridley is large and intimidation comes with that size. But it's his feral attacking and the raw amount of damage he could dedal that left a stronger impression on fighters. Mechanically there's a matter of, in terms of Smash, him having to be a pretty lightweight character with high speed (most likely being a heavilly-aerial focused fighter and a bit of a grappler as well) but also being around the size of titans like Bowser and DK. Just conceptually, this is a bit off... but feasible. What comes as the biggest issue of trying to impliment this kind of stance.... is Ridley's design.

The Super Metroid Ridley that carries on to almost every other incarnation... is incredibly scrawny. Anorexic looking. The size helps hide some of the issue of this, in Metroid.

But in Smash, even if you just scale him...

The size in general is not that much of an issue. It's how his neck looks like two individual bones and he lacks the physique that fits the kind of power that would be "ideal" for that playstyle.

Of course, the biggest example of how it CAN work, and in part due to the modding effort of @BaganSmashBros, is using the Other M "Roidley," which... in spite of some of the outcry against it, has more considerable bulk to him. I'm not saying turn Ridley into Bowser. Just give him a body that could fit better as a fighter.

This should show the kind of difference I'm talking about. It's not even that major in bulking up; but it's enough to make a significant difference and one that retains an intimidating figure at a fighter's size a lot better.

If we see a Roidley-esque design "stick" with Metroid fans, or Sakurai no longer at the helm for Smash 5, Ridley is a damn likely choice but short of either I will remain a detractor because his issues haven't gone away.

While some people may argue Dark Samus, Rundas, Sylux, and even occasionally Mother Brain... let's be serious. Ridley is the only Metroid character that has all 3 of the biggest things for a character in a series without a revolving door of characters.

A) Request Power
B) Series Impact
C) Reocurring Roles

Dark Samus is dead and likely not returning. Rundas and Sylux are questionable on "series impact," and one is dead after his first game and the other is only teased to be in a future 2nd title. Mother Brain... lacks the request power and certainly would be more obscure on how to impliment as a fighter.

For Metroid; it's Ridley or Bust.
Ridley, however, has his body to get more in line for smash to be seen as likely, to me.

 

[ChikoLad]

Partially true. She's a monster when percentage is low, but at higher percentages it's harder to "bop them off". She has three reliable kill moves, but they're all situational and are not particulatly hard to avoid: if shiek is on the ground and you're above her --> upsmash; are you both in the air near the top of the stage --> up air; is the opponent off the stage and trying to recover --> bouncing fish. Her frame data is good, but her gameplan is pretty basic due to her kill moves being so situational.


I'm just gonna straight up disagree here. Technical character that relies on combos, but has difficulty KOing opponents and has situational ko moves =/= stands out at novice level. I may be wrong but I've yet to see evidence of that.

It's not really that hard to get them off at high percents since she has a ton of gimping options and is fast enough to chase launched opponents.

She stands out at a novice level because while she has some complexity to her combos and what not, there is barely any penalty for screwing up because of her frame data.

 

[Deleted member]

Oh hey, I actually learned something in school today. in jazz slang is a man who's sexually attractive, sounds great to me.

 

[Pazzo.]

So.
Now that I took care of Nintendo's "Big 4."
I'mma start on the other Smash 64 series.
Let's keep going with Day 6!

aka a textwall about a character we all know the matters around.

Spoiler

Metroid... has been and currently is a flaky series. While having mostly well-recieved games, the series goes for serious gaps of time without any titles. Since Other M's very heated release, all we have seen is the announcement for the spin-off of Federation Forces. This is a series of fairly high demand for a newcomer but it's not on the best footing, as scary as that is to day.

Ridley: The Elephant in the Room. Ridley, being one of the single most requested character for Brawl and Smash 4. Neglected. Why? Sakurai's reasoning in Brawl being that he didn't really work through the idea and that "it'd likely be impossible; but if it were to happen... he'd be a bit slow." This got affirmed after the release of Smash 4. Sakurai's interview basically stating that he felt that the intimidation that comes from Ridley fits far better in a Boss form than that of a fighter. But... let's seriously talk about Ridley's obstacle(s) and what changes would benefit if not be needed.

A lot of people dumb down Ridley's issue as being "Too Big." Let's.. look at this. In Metroid NES, Ridley was the same size as Samus... in a form that HARDLY resembles the character we know and looks more like a mutant Birdo. In later 2D games, Ridley is seen being about 2 to 3 times Samus's size... but most often very "crunched up," with his attacks namely being his flame breath and deadly tail instead of full ranged movement... partially due to limitations. The best we've seen Ridley move organically is when he's at his largest in ratio to Samus; the 3D titles. Prime 1, 3, and Other M.

Yes, Ridley is large and intimidation comes with that size. But it's his feral attacking and the raw amount of damage he could dedal that left a stronger impression on fighters. Mechanically there's a matter of, in terms of Smash, him having to be a pretty lightweight character with high speed (most likely being a heavilly-aerial focused fighter and a bit of a grappler as well) but also being around the size of titans like Bowser and DK. Just conceptually, this is a bit off... but feasible. What comes as the biggest issue of trying to impliment this kind of stance.... is Ridley's design.

The Super Metroid Ridley that carries on to almost every other incarnation... is incredibly scrawny. Anorexic looking. The size helps hide some of the issue of this, in Metroid.

But in Smash, even if you just scale him...

The size in general is not that much of an issue. It's how his neck looks like two individual bones and he lacks the physique that fits the kind of power that would be "ideal" for that playstyle.

Of course, the biggest example of how it CAN work, and in part due to the modding effort of @BaganSmashBros, is using the Other M "Roidley," which... in spite of some of the outcry against it, has more considerable bulk to him. I'm not saying turn Ridley into Bowser. Just give him a body that could fit better as a fighter.

This should show the kind of difference I'm talking about. It's not even that major in bulking up; but it's enough to make a significant difference and one that retains an intimidating figure at a fighter's size a lot better.

If we see a Roidley-esque design "stick" with Metroid fans, or Sakurai no longer at the helm for Smash 5, Ridley is a damn likely choice but short of either I will remain a detractor because his issues haven't gone away.

While some people may argue Dark Samus, Rundas, Sylux, and even occasionally Mother Brain... let's be serious. Ridley is the only Metroid character that has all 3 of the biggest things for a character in a series without a revolving door of characters.

A) Request Power
B) Series Impact
C) Reocurring Roles

Dark Samus is dead and likely not returning. Rundas and Sylux are questionable on "series impact," and one is dead after his first game and the other is only teased to be in a future 2nd title. Mother Brain... lacks the request power and certainly would be more obscure on how to impliment as a fighter.

For Metroid; it's Ridley or Bust.
Ridley, however, has his body to get more in line for smash to be seen as likely, to me.

The only problem I see in that large image is that Other M Ridley's hitbox would be massive... They'd have to give him constant armor.

He'd either be a walking punching bag, or too strong to be balanced. On the other hand, if they scaled Classic Ridley's head down about 10-15%, he'd be perfect, and around the size of Bowser.

I'd love to see him as a sort of anti-Little Mac. Slow on the ground, but strong in the air with long range attacks at a Peach-like hover.

 

[aldelaro5]

New year's resolution options:

#1: Get fit
#2: Be Wario pic.twitter.com/nXwLCQhzy5

— Nintendo of Europe (@NintendoEurope) January 5, 2016

Lol this is pretty good. I also like this one:

Should Bowser add “Attend anger management courses” to his list of resolutions? pic.twitter.com/l97qleZiiH

— Nintendo of America (@NintendoAmerica) January 5, 2016

The adopt the chain chomp reminds me of Mario RPG.

Also Game Theory confiirmed! Bowser adopts everyone!

He used to be better in spm

He even turns into a shell as stylish!

 

[ChikoLad]

The main problem with Ridley is that his anatomy at it's core is built for a large size. His wings look way too big especially, even if you make him Smash Bowser sized. They'd be constantly clipping through stuff.

 

[Burruni]

The only problem I see in that large image is that Other M Ridley's hitbox would be massive... They'd have to give him constant armor.

He'd either be a walking punching bag, or too strong to be balanced. On the other hand, if they scaled Classic Ridley's head down about 10-15%, he'd be perfect, and around the size of Bowser.

I'd love to see him as a sort of anti-Little Mac. Slow on the ground, but strong in the air with long range attacks at a Peach-like hover.

The size to scale is certainly a delicate issue.
My point in general with Super Ridley's design was not so much in the head size, but how.... twiggy his arms and neck in particular look; in comparison to Roidley.
He's a balancing act and one that'd certainly be a challenge to impliment.
The idea of having a more Roidley-esque design in "Ultra Metroid," is just a step that I think would.. be an aide in incentivising the task. Giving a relatively-easier body to work with.

 

[Chrono.]

Oh yeah, Chrono. , would you be able to tell me where you got those sweet renders in your avatar and sig? They look fantastic.



I honestly thought that tournament was really funny.

Bowser having his time in the Smash limelight was also cute. :3

Nibroc made them http://nibroc-rock.deviantart.com/

Though the one on my avatar is on his Twitter

 

[Starlight_Lily]

While I don't think Wolf is incredibly likely at this point (or anyone for that matter), I'm gonna play devil's advocate and say that him popping up as a surprise based on the information we have is not impossible. Sakurai did say Bayonetta was the last new challenger...as in, new character that hasn't been in Smash before. That technically doesn't rule out veterans.

The Final Video Presentation did really feel final, but technically doesn't rule out a "one last surprise" kind of thing, especially if it was revealed in a non-video format. We already know there is one mystery trophy that is unannounced.

Don't worry @PushDustIn I got this.

You can play Devil's advocate all you like man. But effectively Bayonetta and Corrin are the last characters. While yes its possible more characters may come, its also possible that Disney could decide Star Wars The Force Awakens is the only new Star Wars Film they're making, remember possible, does not mean plausible.

Also Push has already explained, it was a translation difference in Final Presentation, Sakurai actually straight up said Bayonetta is the last character to be added to Smash 4.

 

[Burruni]

Don't worry @PushDustIn I got this.

You can play Devil's advocate all you like man. But effectively Bayonetta and Corrin are the last characters. While yes its possible more characters may come, its also possible that Disney could decide Star Wars The Force Awakens is the only new Star ars Film they're making, remember possible, does not mean plausible.

Also Push has already explained, it was a translation difference in Final Presentation, Sakurai actually straight up said Bayonetta is the last character to be added to Smash 4.

Oh, you see.
He clearly meant that was the last character to add to Smash's history of great fighters for Smash 4.
Wolf is clearly an old character and has already been added in the form of a Trophy.

Edit: Seriously, until we data mine the hell out of the patch with BayoCorrin people will believe in Wolf.

 

[ChikoLad]

Don't worry @PushDustIn I got this.

You can play Devil's advocate all you like man. But effectively Bayonetta and Corrin are the last characters. While yes its possible more characters may come, its also possible that Disney could decide Star Wars The Force Awakens is the only new Star ars Film they're making, remember possible, does not mean plausible.

Also Push has already explained, it was a translation difference in Final Presentation, Sakurai actually straight up said Bayonetta is the last character to be added to Smash 4.

...That first paragraph literally doesn't say anything substantial against my point. "YOU CAN PLAY DEVIL'S ADVOCATE ALL YOU WANT BUT IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN BECAUSE I EFFECTIVELY SAY SO".

But if the part about him saying she was the last actual character is true, then yes, she probably is.

All I was saying from the get go was that I won't rule things out as impossible until the final update actually hits. Not that we're definitely getting something extra.

I still wonder what that mystery trophy could be though.

 

[LIQUID12A]

While some people may argue Dark Samus, Rundas, Sylux, and even occasionally Mother Brain... let's be serious. Ridley is the only Metroid character that has all 3 of the biggest things for a character in a series without a revolving door of characters.

A) Request Power
B) Series Impact
C) Reocurring Roles

For Metroid; it's Ridley or Bust.
Ridley, however, has his body to get more in line for smash to be seen as likely, to me.

Sorry, but I have to argue this.

Let's keep in mind that the next Smash, should it happen, is likely going to come in the next, what, 4-7 years. I heavily doubt that a full fledged installment will come to the NX unless it's a port of Smash Wii U. And in the time span of the next Smash, Sylux is likely to have, at the very least, A and C. It will never compare to Ridley in either three(especially B), I'll give you that, but having two out of three as is ain't bad.

Dark Samus and Rundas, given what we've seen with Sm4sh's inclusions(and Corrin), are highly unlikely. Both are canonically dead and have little to no chance of making future appearances. While this has the potential to not matter(Wesker says hi in Marvel), they aren't like Duck Hunt, R.O.B and G&W as retro characters(and I know you're about to make the Retro Studios pun); relevance matters.

Ridley's literal only chances to get into Smash are Sakurai changing his mind or a director with a different mindset taking on the next game. Time will tell for either of those.

So you're left with the next most feasible, logical and relevant character, Sylux, who as I already explained has potential for inclusion as time passes. If it had gotten in as Sm4sh DLC(or even a costume) it would have been extremely lucky given that it's relevance is still very low even with a promised revival. As time passes it'll be recognized, demanded and have more appearances under it's belt to justify adding it to Smash in a base roster. It's not the black and white of "Ridley or bust" as you claim.

 

[Pazzo.]

The size to scale is certainly a delicate issue.
My point in general with Super Ridley's design was not so much in the head size, but how.... twiggy his arms and neck in particular look; in comparison to Roidley.
He's a balancing act and one that'd certainly be a challenge to impliment.
The idea of having a more Roidley-esque design in "Ultra Metroid," is just a step that I think would.. be an aide in incentivising the task. Giving a relatively-easier body to work with.

Perhaps an amalgam of the two would help Ridley's chances of inclusion.

Anything that doesn't make him look like a cross between a zombified chicken carcass and Yian Garuga.

 

[Burruni]

Sorry, but I have to argue this.

Let's keep in mind that the next Smash, should it happen, is likely going to come in the next, what, 4-7 years. I heavily doubt that a full fledged installment will come to the NX unless it's a port of Smash Wii U. And in the time span of the next Smash, Sylux is likely to have, at the very least, A and C. It will never compare to Ridley in either three(especially B), I'll give you that, but having two out of three as is ain't bad.

Dark Samus and Rundas, given what we've seen with Sm4sh's inclusions(and Corrin), are highly unlikely. Both are canonically dead and have little to no chance of making future appearances. While this has the potential to not matter(Wesker says hi in Marvel), they aren't like Duck Hunt, R.O.B and G&W as retro characters(and I know you're about to make the Retro Studios pun); relevance matters.

Ridley's literal only chances to get into Smash are Sakurai changing his mind or a director with a different mindset taking on the next game. Time will tell for either of those.

So you're left with the next most feasible, logical and relevant character, Sylux, who as I already explained has potential for inclusion as time passes. If it had gotten in as Sm4sh DLC(or even a costume) it would have been extremely lucky given that it's relevance is still very low even with a promised revival. As time passes it'll be recognized, demanded and have more appearances under it's belt to justify adding it to Smash in a base roster. It's not the black and white of "Ridley or bust" as you claim.

A) The entire basis of these things are off of what we have to date. (edit: The only time I've talked about future matters is K. Rool because his demand is something that's been ongoing from Brawl to Smash 4 in such massive levels I felt it would've been dishonest to neglect mention).

B) It's a general issue with Metroid characters that almost all cases for them begin with "Since we can't/won't get Ridley..."
The fact that he towers over every other character of the series to this level, I can't see someone else getting in for the sake of Metroid's expansion.

C) Say Sylux IS in a Prime 4. That gives him an appearance in 2 Metroid games and one cameo. I very much argue that those do not stack up to major series occurrence. Especially since those two appearances would be spaced over ten years apart. He'd be banking on Prime 4 being a massive game shortly before the roster is chosen to get in like .... except, unlike Fire Emblem or Pokemon, Metroid isn't a series with that kind of Revolving Door cast.

D) A general adjustment to Ridley's physique, I feel, could very well be incentive to even Sakurai if it is one that STICKS.

Sylux's the second most likely Metroid Candidate after Ridley. That I aggree. But I feel like his position isn't significant enough at this point. If in a hypothetical situation he's a rival to Samus in Prime 4 and a "side-kick" through a change of heart in a Prime 5 before Smash 5 happens, he'd damn well rival Ridley. But we don't know what is going to come.

 

[Autumn ♫]

Metroid newcomer for Smash 5, and nobody talks about this guy? I guess nobody remembers him.

Spoiler

 

[A Distant Demon]

Metroid newcomer for Smash 5, and nobody talks about this guy? I guess nobody remembers him.

Spoiler

People try their hardest to FORGET anything involved with that . . .

 

[Chrono.]

Adam is a recurring character technically

#Adam4Smash5 /s

 

[ChikoLad]

Obviously "Federation Force Dude" is most likely for the next Smash as a new Metroid rep.

Complete with a Blast Ball Final Smash.

:V

 

[Fenriraga]

Nibroc made them http://nibroc-rock.deviantart.com/

Though the one on my avatar is on his Twitter

We need that model rigged over Generations and Lost World Sonic, that's brilliant.

 

[Z25]

Obviously "Federation Force Dude" is most likely for the next Smash as a new Metroid rep.

Complete with a Blast Ball Final Smash.

:V

I kind of want this for the Salt. It be pretty funny.

Sakurai:

" In this installment I was finally going to add Ridley. But then we realized he hadn't been around recently, and we looked at the last metroid title, which was federation force. We decided that since this title was fresher, more people would recognize the federation force solider more then Ridley. And thus he was added to the game! "

 

[Chrono.]

A Federation Force soldier could probably work.

If they can incorporate the ball to its moveset somehow.

It could even be the Toon Link to Samus' Link

 

[ChikoLad]

I mentioned him as a joke (since I know how salty people are about the game and how elitist people get around here), but I actually wouldn't mind it happening.

I don't play much Metroid yet so really I don't care what Metroid character they decide to add if they ever add another.

 

[Burruni]

A Federation Force soldier could probably work.

If they can incorporate the ball to its moveset somehow.

It could even be the Toon Link to Samus' Link

You think just because you CAN do something, means that you SHOULD do it?

In all seriousness... there are just certain lines that should be drawn and the biggest backlash that Nintendo's gotten for an announcement that I could think of probably should be referenced more than needed.

 

[A Distant Demon]

People joke about Adam and FF soldier. . but there are genuinely people who want them playable. For some people it's just to spite Ridley fans but everyone else. . .

as for Anthony

Spoiler: Giant image

 

[Chrono.]

You think just because you CAN do something, means that you SHOULD do it?

In all seriousness... there are just certain lines that should be drawn and the biggest backlash that Nintendo's gotten for an announcement that I could think of probably should be referenced more than needed.

Well, for all we know, Federation Force could end up being a sleeper hit

 

[Burruni]

Well, for all we know, Federation Force could end up being a sleeper hit

How well did that work for codename S.T.E.A.M. and Amiibo Festival?

 

[Arcanir]

Ultimately, Metroid does depends on what the franchise does in the next few years as it's a bit of guesswork for any of the candidates considering the franchise's current state. Sylux depends on the idea behind Federation Force being expanded over the course of the next few years, as that one of his (and other hunters if it grows enough) best chance of making himself a mainstay in the franchise. If he gets that, then I have no doubt he'd be strong second to Ridley, if not outright picked for the game. Ridley, as mentioned before, just needs a design that Sakurai agrees with, and it all really hinges on that as I highly doubt he won't make continued appearances in the franchise. If he gets that, then I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he's one of the first newcomers we hear about for the next installment.

Then again, maybe Federation Force soldier becomes the surprise hit of the franchise and they get elevated to second banana status and become playable ahead of both of them.

Adam is a recurring character technically

#Adam4Smash5 /s

He's not authorized.

 

[Oasis Dealer]

Metroid newcomer for Smash 5, and nobody talks about this guy? I guess nobody remembers him.

Spoiler

I'll always remember him and won't stop wanting him in Smash...

If it's going to be a Metroid character getting in, it would have to be Sylux (Unless Sakurai isn't at the helm, then Ridley might have a chance). Considering how he's already been decided to appear in a hypothetical Metroid Prime 4, I'd expect him to keep making appearances. By Smash 5, Sylux just night have the support he needs.

Speaking of Metroid Prime, while I have no problems with the music selection in Smash 4...

Why wasn't this song added for PyroSphere.

 

[A Distant Demon]

I'll always remember him and won't stop wanting him in Smash...

If it's going to be a Metroid character getting in, it would have to be Sylux (Unless Sakurai isn't at the helm, then Ridley might have a chance). Considering how he's already been decided to appear in a hypothetical Metroid Prime 4, I'd expect him to keep making appearances. By Smash 5, Sylux just night have the support he needs.

Speaking of Metroid Prime, while I have no problems with the music selection in Smash 4...

Why wasn't this song added for PyroSphere.

Because Rundas is ice based

Cant have ice in a fire stage

*grumble grumble* Phendrana Drifts would be an awesome stage *grumble grumble*