Social Swamp's Social Thread 3 - And now, the end is near, and so I face the final curtain...

[Swamp Sensei]

I honestly think Federation Force got canceled. And that irks me.

 

[Naoshi]

I blame this one on the bad rep of the Wii U.

That and I don't think W101 was the type of game to woo a huge audience in the first place. It would have certainly sold better if the Wii U did better however.

 

[powerprotoman]

so i dont want to jinx it but amazon has told me that my rosalina amiibo has shipped

also i have beatten chapter 10 in xenoblade chronicles X

 

[A Distant Demon]

I remember all the hype W101 had, people were pumped up for the game. They even had a Kamiya Direct for it and got people even more excited for it!!!





cue bad sales

;_;
Why do you have to bring W101 into this.
W101 is innocent

And deserves much better than the sales it got

I honestly think Federation Force got canceled. And that irks me.

I really doubt Nintendo would up and cancel a game like that after a few fans got pissy.

Especially one that was announced at E3!
AND was at the tournament before it (as Blast ball)

Dropping the game would be insane. . .and it would mean I dont get to play it which is impossible.

 

[Champ Gold]

I blame this one on the bad rep of the Wii U.

That and the awful demo

And those idiot reviewers

And coming out in a period where a lot of big games were releasing.

And that BS GameXplain review did ZERO favors


W101 got screwed all over and I think that it could have been big if they released it either a year earlier during launch or a year later when the Wii I had a roll with Tropical Freeze and MK8

 

[Deleted member]

I blame this one on the bad rep of the Wii U.

I blame it on the actual game itself. The hype for the game died down when the demo was released and everyone experienced how confusing the mechanics and gameplay are.

 

[Naoshi]

I don't think W101 would've had a high degree of success. It could've been successful as far as niche game goes, but I think that's about where it can do at max.

The game also isn't super accessible either. The mechanics aren't that easy to get the hang of compared to the more successful franchises, so I don't think reviewers were why the game sold the way it did.


The genre probably also plays into question? IDK, there are several factors.

 

[Coricus]

That and I don't think W101 was the type of game to woo a huge audience in the first place. It would have certainly sold better if the Wii U did better however.

It would have sold even better if they had went with the initial concept of a Nintendo crossover, considering "Smash in X genre" is a common wish of any number of people.

And Dragon King would have flopped if it had released as-is.

Never doubt the power of brand recognition.

 

[Champ Gold]

I don't think W101 would've had a high degree of success. It could've been successful as far as niche game goes, but I think that's about where it can do at max.

The game also isn't super accessible either. The mechanics aren't that easy to get the hang of, so I don't think reviewers were why the game sold the way it did.

All I wanted was a No More Heroes/MadWorld type of popularity where it caught on heavily and became a small hit with that niche audience.

 

[Naoshi]

It would have sold even better if they had went with the initial concept of a Nintendo crossover, considering "Smash in X genre" is a common wish of any number of people.

And Dragon King would have flopped if it had released as-is.

Never doubt the power of brand recognition.

Haha yeah, I really wonder how much more the game would've sold if they went with the initial plans.


In the end though, I'm glad they went with something original for diversity sake.

All I wanted was a No More Heroes/MadWorld type of popularity where it caught on heavily and became a small hit with that niche audience.

That reminds me. Is there any recent sale figures of W101 worldwide? Not counting vgchartz since that site is a bunch of lies.

 

[Chrono.]

Which one of Kamiya's games has sold the best?

BC as far as I know all his game tend to have terrible sales

 

[ChikoLad]

Oh hey we were just talking about this guy and he shows up on tumblr again.

And I will give you his post without the full context because it's funnier that way.

 

[Naoshi]

Which one of Kamiya's games has sold the best?

BC as far as I know all his game tend to have terrleble sales.

Devil May Cry perhaps? Or if we don't count his Capcom games, Bayonetta then.

Oh hey we were just talking about this guy and he shows up on tumblr again.

And I will give you his post without the full context because it's funnier that way.

His rants make my day lol

 

[Kenith]

Which one of Kamiya's games has sold the best?

BC as far as I know all his game tend to have terrleble sales.

Resident Evil 2.
Despite Shinji Mikami being considered "the Resident Evil guy" Hideki Kamiya directed Resident Evil 2.
It sold extremely well, BTW.

 

[Naoshi]

Oh I forgot Kamiya made RE2. Yeah, that one then.

 

[Deleted member]

I like TW101 the way it is
Making it a crossover instead would make everyone compare it to Smash and complain that X character(who is in Smash) isn't playable
It would also mean none of its amazing characters would exist
And that sexy soundtrack too

 

[Champ Gold]

It would have sold even better if they had went with the initial concept of a Nintendo crossover, considering "Smash in X genre" is a common wish of any number of people.

And Dragon King would have flopped if it had released as-is.

Never doubt the power of brand recognition.

Yeah but that takes away the originality that the game had.


Why fans caught on to it was the Super Sentai/Power Rangers feel to it and that Platinum feel to that makes it special. Just making it an Nintendo crossover would do better but wouldn't have stand out.

Same with Splatoon and others.

People give Nintendo **** for no new IPs, but would prefer if more games had those old IPs.

That great and nice but I like a new setting and gameplay please.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

Oh hey we were just talking about this guy and he shows up on tumblr again.

And I will give you his post without the full context because it's funnier that way.

Last time I can recall anyone talking about this guy he was already old news.

I really wish he would stay that way. But eh, at least this comment of his managed to get me to laugh. Almost everything else he does just makes me cringe.

 

[SegaNintendoUbisoft]

It would have been interesting to see Wonderful 101 as a new Nintendo crossover, the image of Mario, Link, Pikachu, etc. combining and turning into a giant hand or sword is amazing.

Still, I'm glad that the Wonderful 101 was a new IP, even if the sales suffered because of it.

Give me Wonderful 102 for the NX and I'll be a happy man.

 

[Chrono.]

Resident Evil 2.
Despite Shinji Mikami being considered "the Resident Evil guy" Hideki Kamiya directed Resident Evil 2.
It sold extremely well, BTW.

That was his first game too, right?

 

[Burruni]

Bored so I'mma do a thing.
Evolution of Smash.

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[Kenith]

Oh I forgot Kamiya made RE2. Yeah, that one then.

I didn't know until very recently.
He made so many great games...he is my new hero now.

 

[Coricus]

Oh hey we were just talking about this guy and he shows up on tumblr again.

And I will give you his post without the full context because it's funnier that way.

I'm guessing the full context is that he's that guy who thinks "hentai" means "long" and uses it as a descriptive term for Modern Sonic's quills that even the Sonic "fanbase" saw as extreme enough to mock?

 

[Roaring Salsa]

Ahh poor Code Name STEAM and TW101... both didn't deserve to bomb so hard...

Other than STEAM's gameplay being made for a really niche audience, I do feel the game was extremely overshadowed in part due to Splatoon also being revealed during that time. Splatoon even got ice creams and amusement parks to promote them. Of course, IS should have known better to release a game where everyone complained about the long enemy turns (I know there's a patch, but it should have been included from the start) and that a 2 month gap between the American and European/Japanese release dates would severely affect sales

Despite all that, I really enjoyed the game and hope plans for a sequel haven't been completely abandoned

 

[Champ Gold]

I didn't know until very recently.
He made so many great games...he is my new hero now.

My first introduction to him was Viewtiful Joe (despite having RE2 as a little babby) and it only went up from there.

Bayonetta
DMC1
His love for classic arcade games
And now W101


There's a reason why I'm hyped for this game

That delay killed me

 

[Naoshi]

I'm guessing the full context is that he's that guy who thinks "hentai" means "long" and uses it as a descriptive term for Modern Sonic's quills that even the Sonic "fanbase" saw as extreme enough to mock?

Now he uses it to describe literally any female gaming character. He calls Splatoon a hentai game because some weirdos drew lewd art of the female inklings.

 

[Kenith]

My first introduction to him was Viewtiful Joe (despite having RE2 as a little babby) and it only went up from there.

Bayonetta
DMC1
His love for classic arcade games
And now W101


There's a reason why I'm hyped for this game

That delay killed me

You're forgetting someone.

I know Clover (Platinum) made it but I didn't know that Kamiya was the director.
Especially because the Wii version DOESN'T HAVE THE CREDITS FOR SOME REASON.

 

[Burruni]

I didn't know until very recently.
He made so many great games...he is my new hero now.

I have bad news for you.

 

[Chrono.]

Bored so I'mma do a thing.
Evolution of Smash.

Spoiler

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Warped Digivolved to

 

[Champ Gold]

You're forgetting someone.

I know Clover (Platinum) made it but I didn't know that Kamiya was the director.
Especially because the Wii version DOESN'T HAVE THE CREDITS FOR SOME REASON.

I need to try Okami but me and Zelda like games don't go together as much but I would love to try to see if it changes me outlook


I mean Persona 4 changed my opinion on SMT series as a whole

 

[Kenith]

I have bad news for you.

Lol.
How unfortunate he is so grumpy on Twitter.
I bet meeting him would be the prime example of your hero being a **** to you.

Or maybe it's just Twitter. Idk. Twitter sucks.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Do you think Wonderful 101 and/or Codename STEAM could get sequels one day?

 

[Burruni]

Lol.
How unfortunate he is so grumpy on Twitter.
I bet meeting him would be the prime example of your hero being a **** to you.

Or maybe it's just Twitter. Idk. Twitter sucks.

See.
Kamiya doesn't have patience.
Especially on twitter.
Great designer, not the best man.

Edit:

Do you think Wonderful 101 and/or Codename STEAM could get sequels one day?

W102, certainly.
There's still sizable demand for it; not as much as Bayo3 but certainly possible.
STEAM is unlikely.... just... no fanbase of note.

 

[Chrono.]

Kamiya's a cool guy he's just tired of ****s over at Twitter asking him the dumbest of questions.

 

[Coricus]

I have bad news for you.

"To Sakurai

and all Smash idiots,

I LOVE YOU."

 

[KingofPhantoms]

Now he uses it to describe literally any female gaming character. He calls Splatoon a hentai game because some weirdos drew lewd art of the female inklings.

So basically, his logic is "some fans do it so the entire game is hentai-themed".....?

 

[A Distant Demon]

Do you think Wonderful 101 and/or Codename STEAM could get sequels one day?

I have no idea about STEAM. Based on the sales I doubt it. But it got amiibo functionality so maybe they think it has a chance

(Strike Team Eliminating All Moles when?)

W101. . is probably dead. Forever. It might be a Kamiya cult classic like the rest but I cant see a reason for Nintendo to give it the greenlight again.

Not like Red did well enough in the ballot for it to matter. . .

 

[Naoshi]

Do you think Wonderful 101 and/or Codename STEAM could get sequels one day?

W101 I can see having a slight chance at the very least. It did gained a cult following. STEAM is... kind of just there I think? It has a following too, but nothing too sizable I think.

So basically, his logic is "some fans do it so the entire game is hentai-themed".....?

Yep. He really thinks every single female Nintendo character (unless they exist in the 80s/90s!!!) are designed for smut for some reason.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Kamiya best developer

 

[Swamp Sensei]

See.
Kamiya doesn't have patience.
Especially on twitter.
Great designer, not the best man.

Edit:
W102, certainly.
There's still sizable demand for it; not as much as Bayo3 but certainly possible.
STEAM is unlikely.... just... no fanbase of note.

How is Silvia annoying?