TaichiYaegashi
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Well, this turned into a fine mess, didn't it?...
That's why they call them unpopular opinions though.![Smash :smash: :smash:](/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/smash.gif)
That's why they call them unpopular opinions though.
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No offense Naoshi, like literally I'm not mad or upset or anything, but I could honestly feel where he was coming from.I would have let this go, except he claimed I was interrogating him over his choice, which was not the case AT ALL
If you consider the fact the thread made for this only,has gone kapuft.Well, this whole "unpopular opinions" thing didn't really go well as I originally thought.
Welp.
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Back to the drawing board.
I think that's what almost everyone is getting at. I don't think anyone, except very few, questioned Luigi's taste in characters.I feel at this point I should clarify something: I'm never against people wanting an addition character from any series. I just don't like when a character is automatically deemed more worthy when it comes from a series with only one character, and no other reasons. It mainly just stems from my hatred of the "reps" argument.![]()
I don't. I told him Poochy isn't a major character, that was not me telling him he's wrong for wanting Poochy.No offense Naoshi, like literally I'm not mad or upset or anything, but I could honestly feel where he was coming from.
Still a dog though. WFT point still stands. But if you were joking, sorry!Duck Hunt is a well-known dog though.
When he was revealed for Smash Bros. people remembered him and said
It's odd because mine is one of the least brash opinions we've had so farWell, this turned into a fine mess, didn't it?...
That's why they call them unpopular opinions though.![]()
Literally no one is saying he can't support Poochy.Guys, I have to say, he's aloud to support Poochy if he wants, please don't argue with his decisions please.
No I just think he felt upset at all, I'm sure that wasn't your intention or anything, but that's how I saw it. I'm positive you didn't intend anything, he just got upset is all. Anyways I think we've discussed this enough, I think it's wise we just move on.I think that's what almost everyone is getting at. I don't think anyone, except very few, questioned Luigi's taste in characters.
I don't. I told him Poochy isn't a major character, that was not me telling him he's wrong for wanting Poochy.
I agree, the word "rep" gets under my skin because I think characters should get in based on their own merits.I feel at this point I should clarify something: I'm never against people wanting an addition character from any series. I just don't like when a character is automatically deemed more worthy when it comes from a series with only one character, and no other reasons. It mainly just stems from my hatred of the "reps" argument.![]()
Not saying your want is wrong but that's not a very good comparison. Duck Hunt is a mixture of a Dog, Duck and a shooter. They replicate what they represent, which is the Nintendo Zapper. Wii Fit Trainer being a Yoga teacher automatically gives her a movesets as a Yoga fighter. A (going by awesomedude's words) "moving platform" is nothing like those two.Isn't Duck Hunt Dog at the end of the day, just a dog?
Isn't WFT at the end of the day, just a yoga trainer?
There's multiple people trying to refute my opinion and generally saying Poochy being in Smash is a terrible idea. I mean, yes, no one's said specifically I can't support Poochy, but people are still reacting very negatively to him and arguing with me about it.Literally no one is saying he can't support Poochy.
will seeing as.DHD isn't the only character and its the combination between the dog,the duck and the shooter working together.No he's not just a dog.Its more so a team.But what do i know rightIsn't Duck Hunt Dog at the end of the day, just a dog?
Isn't WFT at the end of the day, just a yoga trainer?
No we weren't. We were just saying he's not a major character (at least in my case). That was it.There's multiple people trying to refute my opinion and generally saying Poochy being in Smash is a terrible idea. I mean, yes, no one's said specifically I can't support Poochy, but people are still reacting very negatively to him and arguing with me about it.
Okay, but before Smash Duck Hunt Dog was literally just a dog and Duck Hunt Bird was just a bird.Not saying your want is wrong but that's not a very good comparison. Duck Hunt is a mixture of a Dog, Duck and a shooter. They replicate what they represent, which is the Nintendo Zapper. Wii Fit Trainer being a Yoga teacher automatically gives her a movesets as a Yoga fighter. A "moving platform" is nothing like those two.
Ughhh, forget it. You're missing the point.Okay, but before Smash Duck Hunt Dog was literally just a dog and Duck Hunt Bird was just a bird.
How about..
Captain Falcon was originally literally just a dude driving a car
Villager is just a dude who lives in a town. I guess this could give him a tool-based moveset though.
No, that's just you who was doing it. Others were reacting much differently.No we weren't. We were just saying he's not a major character (at least in my case). That was it.
Captain Falcon, Villager, Rosalina, even Yoshi himself..will seeing as.DHD isn't the only character and its the combination between the dog,the duck and the shooter working together.No he's not just a dog.Its more so a team.But what do i know right
When you MAKE CLAIMS OF FACT such as "Poochy is a major character" people WILL REFUTE THEM.There's multiple people trying to refute my opinion and generally saying Poochy being in Smash is a terrible idea. I mean, yes, no one's said specifically I can't support Poochy, but people are still reacting very negatively to him and arguing with me about it.
Only because of what's being perceived as you overblowing the importance of a character that is basically just a platform Yoshi can ride on that has a small personality.There's multiple people trying to refute my opinion and generally saying Poochy being in Smash is a terrible idea. I mean, yes, no one's said specifically I can't support Poochy, but people are still reacting very negatively to him and arguing with me about it.
I'm just going to say this right here and right now. You could really look at both sides of the same spectrum. You andNo we weren't. We were just saying he's not a major character (at least in my case). That was it.
What are you even talking about? I pretty much dropped the major vs minor argument a page ago. Up until now, he claimed I was interrogating him for wanting Poochy and that actually set me off.I'm just going to say this right here and right now. You could really look at both sides of the same spectrum. You andLuigi The President are really fighting over nothing. Just mere opinions. This argument will really lead nowhere. So you guys better think twice about what your arguing about and just remember it's just an opinion.
Then what is the point?Ughhh, forget it. You're missing the point.
I then went on to state I think Poochy's a major character in my opinion. Did you not see me say that? If I ever said it as a fact, then I apologise; I meant it as an opinion.When you MAKE CLAIMS OF FACT such as "Poochy is a major character" people WILL REFUTE THEM.
What? How does this excuse 2 pages of people dragging down my own personal opinion?Only because of what's being perceived as you overblowing the importance of a character that is basically just a platform Yoshi can ride on that has a small personality.
Yeah it's like arguing whether the glass should be full or not. Honestly I say change the topic, I've already brought up something so let's discuss that shall we?I'm just going to say this right here and right now. You could really look at both sides of the same spectrum. You andLuigi The President are really fighting over nothing. Just mere opinions. This argument will really lead nowhere. So you guys better think twice about what your arguing about and just remember it's just an opinion.
I'm just saying it would be better to drop the argument entirely. Your not going to go anywhere with itWhat are you even talking about? I pretty much dropped the major vs minor argument a page ago. Up until now, he claimed I was interrogating him for wanting Poochy.
I've already dropped it. :|I'm just saying it would be better to drop the argument entirely. Your not going to go anywhere with it.
You should know that I'd like to apologise; I was and am rather stressed about this whole thing. I understand you weren't intending to interrogate me.What are you even talking about? I pretty much dropped the major vs minor argument a page ago. Up until now, he claimed I was interrogating him for wanting Poochy.
I'm sorry, but are you trying to say that he's a main character but not major enough? You just told me he's a main character but suddenly he's not?Love Poochie, and he is a main character, but he isn't that major of a main character. The thing with Duck Hunt Dog is he is the main character of his game, or at least the only character outside of you (which you don't see) in the game.
Let's take a look at Super Mario World. In Super Mario World, Yoshi plays a similar role as Poochie did, he helps you overcome certain obstacles or just helps. A pet if you will. If Yoshi never had his own games where he was a main character and he was just a mount, there would be not much to work with, really for Smash Bros. and he wouldn't have had a character.
Because Yoshi got his own games he became more fleshed out and a main character. You have to be a main character to get into Super Smash Bros., and Poochie isn't that. He's assist trophy level.
He could utilize the various mechanics of Yoshi, including eggs, fruit, and his own techniques. I have a moveset for him.I am not well versed with yoshi (first game only) but uhhh. . . What could ppochy do exactly and what is his role that makes him major?
he carries yoshi over spikes and lavaI am not well versed with yoshi (first game only) but uhhh. . . What could ppochy do exactly and what is his role that makes him major?
The most evident of this is Black Shadow from F-Zero. Not only do a lot want him playable just so he can have Ganon's moveset (Which I personally feel couldn't work due to the moveset being built around Ganon), it's also something Sakurai wouldn't do.Anotherthat most people have heard from me
There is far too much focus on reps in the fanbase. Options are made and lost from what series a character comes from, not their merits. Characters are invented to rep the unrepped even though they would never be mentioned if they were from another series. Viceversa for characters from "overrepped" series
Also mario and pokemon can probably never be overrepped.
Okay, I forgive you. That's all I needed to hear.You should know that I'd like to apologise; I was and am rather stressed about this whole thing. I understand you weren't intending to interrogate me.
Welcome to the club. I support Geno and ChromThere's multiple people trying to refute my opinion and generally saying Poochy being in Smash is a terrible idea. I mean, yes, no one's said specifically I can't support Poochy, but people are still reacting very negatively to him and arguing with me about it.
If I may, yes anyone could get a a moveset, but the point is that poochy wouldn't be first in line to get into smash if yoshi got a second rep. If yoshi were to get a second rep, it would go to kamek, or shy guy, or even baby bowser. Not that you can't want poochy or support him, the poinnt was he would just be unlikely. But we should just drop this completely.Then what is the point?
Here's my point: The Smash dev team can make a moveset for tons of characters you wouldn't think could ever get a moveset. Could they not do the same with Poochy?
I then went on to state I think Poochy's a major character in my opinion. Did you not see me say that? If I ever said it as a fact, then I apologise; I meant it as an opinion.
Speaking of opinion's, what has this entire, dragged-out, unnecessary, and angry argument been about? AN OPINION.
What? How does this excuse 2 pages of people dragging down my own personal opinion?
Oh... sorry about that. Have a cookie as an apology!I've already dropped it. :|
All of which have aspects in their source material to work with (or base them off of in Captain Falcon's case).Captain Falcon, Villager, Rosalina, even Yoshi himself..
You know, I'm also sorry if I came off as brash, all I was trying to do was help him, sorry if I did anything wrong.Okay, I forgive you. That's all I needed to hear.
Golden can we just move on?All of which have aspects in their source material to work with (or base them off of in Captain Falcon's case).
Poochy doesn't have this luxury.
You were better off with the Duck Hunt Dog comparison, but even then, the idea to borrow aspects from not only his source game, but the entire Zapper line was still there.
Very little to base Poochy off of that isn't just shoehorning random crap just to make him fit.
Instead of just thinking in terms of "he exists" and "so-and-so were like this but like that in Smash so why not him?", think in terms of "this is how he can work", "this would be his style", "this is what sets him apart", etc.
Actually put in the effort to sell people on the idea, don't just hide behind other characters and "just because" reasoning.
Shy Guy: Mario baddieIf I may, yes anyone could get a a moveset, but the point is that poochy wouldn't be first in line to get into smash if yoshi got a second rep. If yoshi were to get a second rep, it would go to kamek, or shy guy, or even baby bowser. Not that you can't want poochy or support him, the poinnt was he would just be unlikely. But we should just drop this completely.