Social Swamp's Social Thread 3 - And now, the end is near, and so I face the final curtain...

[wildvine47]

While I recognize that Steve? is 100% a modern day gaming icon and Minecraft is one of the biggest games of all time.

I really REALLY don't want Steve? and Minecraft in Smash for the simple factor of the horrendous graphics and artstyle Minecraft has that would not translate well at ALL in Smash. Steve would still be his 6-rectangle, four-animation self, and a potential Minecraft stage would look horrendous compared to all the other gorgeous stages in Smash thus far.

That's my one and only reason why I wouldn't want Minecraft content in Smash. Only one reason but it is a HELL of a reason that I can see no way to reconcile.

 

[ChikoLad]

But Minecraft looks nice.

 

[TaichiYaegashi]

While I recognize that Steve? is 100% a modern day gaming icon and Minecraft is one of the biggest games of all time.

I really REALLY don't want Steve? and Minecraft in Smash for the simple factor of the horrendous graphics and artstyle Minecraft has that would not translate well at ALL in Smash. Steve would still be his 6-rectangle, four-animation self, and a potential Minecraft stage would look horrendous compared to all the other gorgeous stages in Smash thus far.

That's my one and only reason why I wouldn't want Minecraft content in Smash. Only one reason but it is a HELL of a reason that I can see no way to reconcile.

God forbid if graphics held Steve back...
No offense but that's one of the worst reasons I've ever heard for why a character shouldn't be in Smash Brothers.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

Being sold to Microsoft isn't the end of the success story. It's just a part of it.

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The front page articles of Smashboards might just have hit their lowest point.

No, but an end to the INDIE part.

God forbid if graphics held Steve back...
No offense but that's one of the worst reasons I've ever heard for why a character shouldn't be in Smash Brothers.

Yeah, look at Game & Watch.

 

[wildvine47]

God forbid if graphics held Steve back...
No offense but that's one of the worst reasons I've ever heard for why a character shouldn't be in Smash Brothers.

I never said shouldn't or that it would be what stops him. It's just specifically why I wouldn't want him. Because I don't know about the rest of you, but I really wouldn't want to see this pile of 6 rectangles next to HD quality models like Cloud.

There's no way Steve would look like anything other than exactly what's above. And I personally don't want something like that anywhere near Smash.

Minecraft can look nice in giant quality builds in pictures taken from afar. But you get up close, or take a picture of just a regularly generated Minecraft biome and compare it Smash anything? Minecraft looks like hot garbage. I don't think it's too much of a stretch to say that Minecraft's strong point isn't graphics. By any stretch of the imagination.

 

[ChikoLad]

Shulk shouldn't have been in Smash since he looks horrible in Xenoblade.

 

[Strofirko]

I never said shouldn't or that it would be what stops him. It's just specifically why I wouldn't want him. Because I don't know about the rest of you, but I really wouldn't want to see this pile of 6 rectangles next to HD quality models like Cloud.

There's no way Steve would look like anything other than exactly what's above. And I personally don't want something like that anywhere near Smash.

Game and watch is in smash even with 6FPS and 2 dymensions .

Also Sakurai would update his graphics style if he was ever on smash.

 

[A Distant Demon]

Late as hell but Generations and Heroes are the only 2 sonic games I have liked.

Worst birthday present ever

To any RWBY fans, who do you want playable in Grimm Eclipse?
My choice is Coco Adel

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Her handbag is Heavy's minigun 100/10

Jaune, Jaune, and Jaune

 

[Deleted member]

Yeah, traps are too innocent to do that kind of stuff

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Yes, no trap would never ever do a single brutal thing. Nope, not one single one.

 

[wildvine47]

Shulk shouldn't have been in Smash since he looks horrible in Xenoblade.

Shulk isn't a pile of 6 blocks. Shulk has artwork that shows what they were aiming for despite the lack of quality in the actual game. Shulk's look can be improved for when he makes the jump to HD.

Steve?, if brought to Smash would undeniably be exactly what he looks like in Minecraft now. There's no way of updating his look like they did with Shulk without making him nigh-unrecognizable. And there's no way Mojang would allow it either.

 

[Mikegamer0608]

Shulk shouldn't have been in Smash since he looks horrible in Xenoblade.

Wait what's wrong with Shulk? I don't see anything wrong with him, BUT cloud tho.

 

[Deleted member]

Shulk shouldn't have been in Smash since he looks horrible in Xenoblade.

I'm still pissed at Robin
I mean, have you PLAYED Awakening?

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Yes, no trap would never ever do a single brutal thing. Nope, not one single one.

I'm curious now, what exactly has he done?

 

[ChikoLad]

Shulk isn't a pile of 6 blocks. Shulk has artwork that shows what they were aiming for despite the lack of quality in the actual game. Shulk's look can be improved for when he makes the jump to HD.

Steve?, if brought to Smash would undeniably be exactly what he looks like in Minecraft now. There's no way of updating his look like they did with Shulk without making him nigh-unrecognizable. And there's no way Mojang would allow it either.

I was poking fun.

I still see it as a silly reason to not want a character, but different strokes I guess.

But for what it's worth, they could potentially go with a Minecraft: Story Mode inspired design.

 

[Mikegamer0608]

Shulk isn't a pile of 6 blocks. Shulk has artwork that shows what they were aiming for despite the lack of quality in the actual game. Shulk's look can be improved for when he makes the jump to HD.

Steve?, if brought to Smash would undeniably be exactly what he looks like in Minecraft now. There's no way of updating his look like they did with Shulk without making him nigh-unrecognizable. And there's no way Mojang would allow it either.

Don't worry I think Steve can be updated.

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[Fenriraga]

I really don't understand why so many people think Minecraft is big news in terms of Nintendo x Microsoft. Minecraft was multiplatform long before Microsoft picked up Mojang. You can get Minecraft on PlayStation 3, PlayStation 4, PlayStation Vita, PC, iOS, and Andriod too.

The reason Minecraft isn't exclusive to Microsoft systems because they know that would be a huge financial mistake.

Plus this isn't the first time Minecraft officially graced on a Nintendo platform: Steve appears in the 3DS version of Retro City Rampage (the game is also on Wii but I don't know if Minecraft is in that version) plus Minecraft: Story Mode was confirmed for Wii U a couple months ago (but still waiting for release unlike the other platforms).

Yeah, pretty much that. Keeping Minecraft a Microsoft exclusive would be suicide for the series. Playstation edition exists for a reason.

It'll be fun to see the Nintendo skins and how they use the gamepad at least. I can only imagine how much people will scream if they keep the Banjo/RARE skins in the Wii U version. :V

 

[wildvine47]

Game and watch is in smash even with 6FPS and 2 dymensions .

Also Sakurai would update his graphics style if he was ever on smash.

Game and Watch in Smash is higher res than Steve even if he's 2D. Because he's so simple and because being blocks isn't the entire identity of Game and Watch, rounding him off and changing his looks to be more modern is fine because it still keeps him recognizable. There's two options with Steve. Either they keep him exactly as he is now in Minecraft and transplant him into Smash, or they "update" him and he looks like this.

Which pretty much entirely nullifies the point of both Steve and Minecraft, which has built it's entire legacy around being blocky. There's no way to do Steve without either losing what makes Minecraft what it is, or without putting in ****ty 6-block unchanged Minecraft Steve. Even a Story Mode-like design would stick out like a sore thumb amongst the rest of the cast, and not in a good way.

And I don't want either of these things anywhere near Smash.

 

[A Distant Demon]

Jeez looking at reactions a lot of people are really dissapointed.

So many people were expecting something major or smash related. Some people never learn.

 

[Fenriraga]

Are we seriously having this debate? Y'all are silly.

So I guess as some food for thought... what are you guys expecting to see as Skin packs? The obvious 2 are Zelda and Mario, but with things like the 360 version having a Mass Effect skin pack of all things, the sky is kind of the limit. Anyone got a series you'd like to see Minecrafted, even if you don't give a crap about Minecraft?

 

[DoodleDuck97]

So it was Minecraft all along eh?
Well. Not gonna lie here but I think a Nintenzone Minecraft World would be pretty fun to play in
Don't really see why people would moan all things considered we are still getting Cloud and even more Smash News.

 

[Deleted member]

I'm curious now, what exactly has he done?

He's Ash Crimson's ancestor. He's a leader of a group called those from the past. His whole goal is to undo humanities existence. He's even killed one of his underlings(Who's a final boss in one of the previous games) by violently absorbing(Basically leaving him as a fleshy skeleton.) him for some extra power.

Oh, he also has control over time. His name's Saiki, he's really fab~.

 

[Luigi The President]

I really like Minecraft but I'm dissapointed the big announcement was this. Didn't expect anything Smash related, but I dunno what I did expect.

 

[Khoru]

Are we seriously having this debate? Y'all are silly.

So I guess as some food for thought... what are you guys expecting to see as Skin packs? The obvious 2 are Zelda and Mario, but with things like the 360 version having a Mass Effect skin pack of all things, the sky is kind of the limit. Anyone got a series you'd like to see Minecrafted, even if you don't give a crap about Minecraft?

i think the wii u version is getting the ME skins too actually
and... skyrim

 

[Schnee117]

Are we seriously even having this debate? Y'all are silly.

So I guess as some food for thought... what are you guys expecting to see as Skin packs? The obvious 2 are Zelda and Mario, but with things like the 360 version having a Mass Effect skin pack of all things, the sky is kind of the limit. Anyone got a hope, even if they don't give a crap about Minecraft?

You mean the Wii U version having the Mass Effect pack right? Not much of a surprise considering all other console versions have it.

Anyway it needs a Xenoblade pack.

 

[Mikegamer0608]

Jeez looking at reactions a lot of people are really dissapointed.

So many people were expecting something major or smash related. Some people never learn.

I'm taking a wild guess that people are disappointed because it took this long for Minecraft to come to a Nintendo platform when just about everyone owns it on a different console or PC by now.

 

[Pazzo.]

Minecraft may not be "new", but the utter amount of things you can do with it is fantastic.

Want to build Ganondorf's Castle? Go right ahead. Want to play the Squid Sister's theme? Why not? Want to build an actual working computer? You get the point.

I probably won't spend a lot of time in the Wii U version, but my brothers would be all over it. I'll probably get them it and Super Mario Maker for Christmas.

 

[Con0rrrr]

Minecraft Amiibo support makes a lot of sense.

Amiibo = Skin for your character.

Steve used to be a joke as a Smash character but honestly if anyone represents Indie Games, even if he's owned my MS now, it is Minecraft Steve.

 

[Fenriraga]

I really like Minecraft but I'm dissapointed the big announcement was this. Didn't expect anything Smash related, but I dunno what I did expect.

What you should expect is not anything at all. I've lost count of how many times Nintendo has teased something 'big' and ended up letting everyone down. I mean they've done it twice this WEEK. Then again, with something as big as Smash/Zelda U always hanging over their heads, it can't be helped.

 

[Deleted member]

I don't know what the current consensus is about FF7 Remake, but is anyone else disappointed FF7 Remake isn't turn-based? I'm disappointed myself as I loved FF7's combat system and the pressure it puts on you and the strategy involved.

 

[Luigi The President]

What you should expect is not anything at all. I've lost count of how many times Nintendo has teased something 'big' and ended up letting everyone down. I mean they've done it twice this WEEK. Then again, with something as big as Smash/Zelda U always hanging over their heads, it can't be helped.

You and I are not the same, so I'll expect what I'm expecting, thank you very much.

Minecraft Amiibo support makes a lot of sense.

Amiibo = Skin for your character.

Steve used to be a joke as a Smash character but honestly if anyone represents Indie Games, even if he's owned my MS now, it is Minecraft Steve.

You know, that's a great point; I mean, he's a flagship indie by now, and now he's got Nintendo relevance.

 

[Das Koopa]

It's impossible for me to care about console Minecraft when

A: It controls like garbage without a keyboard.
B: There's no mods to play around with.
C: It's extremely limited on a console in general.

I've run a small Minecraft server for 3 years this January and I can't see a reason to downgrade to a console version :/

 

[True Blue Warrior]

Jeez looking at reactions a lot of people are really dissapointed.

So many people were expecting something major or smash related. Some people never learn.

What else can you expect from people?

I don't know what the current consensus is about FF7 Remake, but is anyone else disappointed FF7 Remake isn't turn-based? I'm disappointed myself as I loved FF7's combat system and the pressure it puts on you and the strategy involved.

Not really, consideirng it's understandable why the remake wouldn't be turn-based.

 

[Fenriraga]

You and I are not the same, so I'll expect what I'm expecting, thank you very much.


You know, that's a great point; I mean, he's a flagship indie by now, and now he's got Nintendo relevance.

Er... I'm not attacking you dude, just pointing that out based on the pattern of how Nintendo handles these things. If you're glass half full that's fine by me. Not telling you how to live yer life brother.

You mean the Wii U version having the Mass Effect pack right? Not much of a surprise considering all other console versions have it.

Anyway it needs a Xenoblade pack.

i think the wii u version is getting the ME skins too actually
and... skyrim

Oh, news to me. Alrighty then. There ARE console exclusive packs though, right? Never touched a console version of the game, sans REALLY early 360 Minecraft.

Also, all of the yes to a Xenoblade skin.

I don't know what the current consensus is about FF7 Remake, but is anyone else disappointed FF7 Remake isn't turn-based? I'm disappointed myself as I loved FF7's combat system and the pressure it puts on you and the strategy involved.

Like it or not, pure turnbased Combat is archaic and outdated, at least by AAA title standards. It's just how it is in today's world, and how from a gameplay perspective games like Kingdom Hearts and TWEWY are held in higher regards than some more recent FF games.

 

[Schnee117]

Er... I'm not attacking you dude, just pointing that out based on the pattern of how Nintendo handles these things. If you're glass half full that's fine by me. Not telling you how to live yer life brother.




Oh, news to me. Alrighty then. There ARE console exclusive packs though, right? Never touched a console version of the game, sans REALLY early 360 Minecraft.

Also, all of the yes to a Xenoblade skin.

The Xbox version has a Halo mash up pack.

Playstation has LittleBigPlanet.

 

[ChikoLad]

I don't know what the current consensus is about FF7 Remake, but is anyone else disappointed FF7 Remake isn't turn-based? I'm disappointed myself as I loved FF7's combat system and the pressure it puts on you and the strategy involved.

The pressure aspect is only amplified by it being completely real time.

 

[ミスティック Speed]

Soo...the big news was Minecraft...? ._.

 

[Deleted member]

Not really, consideirng it's understandable why the remake wouldn't be turn-based.

I honestly don't understand, personally. Why wouldn't it have turn based?

 

[Deleted member]

He's Ash Crimson's ancestor. He's a leader of a group called those from the past. His whole goal is to undo humanities existence. He's even killed one of his underlings(Who's a final boss in one of the previous games) by violently absorbing(Basically leaving him as a fleshy skeleton.) him for some extra power.

Oh, he also has control over time. His name's Saiki, he's really fab~.

I thought that was Ash himself lol
TvTropes describes him as big jerk and I like it

 

[Luigi The President]

Er... I'm not attacking you dude, just pointing that out based on the pattern of how Nintendo handles these things. If you're glass half full that's fine by me. Not telling you how to live yer life brother.




Oh, news to me. Alrighty then. There ARE console exclusive packs though, right? Never touched a console version of the game, sans REALLY early 360 Minecraft.

Also, all of the yes to a Xenoblade skin.


Like it or not, pure turnbased Combat is archaic and outdated, at least by AAA title standards. It's just how it is in today's world, and how from a gameplay perspective games like Kingdom Hearts and TWEWY are held in higher regards than some more recent FF games.

Alright, misunderstood you then. My bab.

It's impossible for me to care about console Minecraft when

A: It controls like garbage without a keyboard.
B: There's no mods to play around with.
C: It's extremely limited on a console in general.

I've run a small Minecraft server for 3 years this January and I can't see a reason to downgrade to a console version :/

Can you even host big servers on console Minecraft?

 

[KenboCalrissian]

a potential Minecraft stage would look horrendous compared to all the other gorgeous stages in Smash thus far.

On the contrary...

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It would still look a lot nicer than this.

 

[Schnee117]

Can you even host big servers on console Minecraft?

Only 8 players on console.
4 if you're on Vita.