Social Swamp's Social Thread 3 - And now, the end is near, and so I face the final curtain...

[Fenriraga]

Seems like a false alarm, the prices match up exactly with Collection #4.

Although, the fact that their systems only got this update now seems fishy...

Oddly enough, we have things like 3D Excitebike and Kirby's Dreamland on there too, both of which are years old... But the 12/5 release date certainly makes it interesting.

 

[PushDustIn]

PushDustIn Famitsu is out soon right? Let us know if we get any word on Cloud (it is every Wednesday right? I'm not familiar with the release schedule so sorry if I'm wrong lol)

Every other Thursday (12:00 am) Japan Time. I'll let you know when I get my hands on it!

 

[powerprotoman]

Seems like a false alarm, the prices match up exactly with Collection #4.

Although, the fact that their systems only got this update now seems fishy...

never mind the fact the thing was litteraly called smash wiiu col 4.....so ya

 

[A Distant Demon]

Seems like a false alarm, the prices match up exactly with Collection #4.

Although, the fact that their systems only got this update now seems fishy...

Good. Everything is right in the world and balanced is restored.

Except for PM. . .and Indivisible. And the actual important things going on in the world. OK maybe there is no balance here.

 

[Solfiner]

I am going to play Xenoblade X and Cloud in Smash (probably) during the same month, wtf happened to life

 

[Champ Gold]

never mind the fact the thing was litteraly called smash wiiu col 4.....so ya

Pretty much and for those who don't know which is which, it's pretty much this:

• Collection #1: & First Wave of Mii Fighters costumes
• Collection #2: +Suzaku Castle, Dreamland 64 and Second Wave of Mii Fighter costumes
• Collection #3: Hyrule Castle 64, Peach's Castle 64 and Third Wave of Mii Fighters costumes
• Collection #4: Super Mario Maker, Pirate Ship (Brawl) and Fourth Wave of Mii Fighters costumes

Seems like a false alarm, the prices match up exactly with Collection #4.

Although, the fact that their systems only got this update now seems fishy...

Also where the hell you be getting these Pac-Man avatars

 

[Neo Zero]

Every other Thursday (12:00 am) Japan Time. I'll let you know when I get my hands on it!

Oh so I thought Wednesday cuz it's Wednesday for us lol.

Btw I got my piece on the article, can you proof read it later though. Did most on my phone lol

 

[AreJay25]

Pretty much and for those who don't know which is which, it's pretty much this:

• Collection #1: & First Wave of Mii Fighters costumes
• Collection #2: +Suzaku Castle, Dreamland 64 and Second Wave of Mii Fighter costumes
• Collection #3: Hyrule Castle 64, Peach's Castle 64 and Third Wave of Mii Fighters costumes
• Collection #4: Super Mario Maker, Pirate Ship (Brawl) and Fourth Wave of Mii Fighters costumes

Also where the hell you be getting these Pac-Man avatars

I literally just looked up "Pac-Man Christmas" on Google Images and this was one of the first things to pop up. lol

I think it was promotional art for a Hallamark Christmas ornament, which I happen to have somewhere...

 

[CyberHyperPhoenix]

We got GameStop leaks now?

First it was Twitter now GameStop? **** it, where's my Facebook and YouTube leaks? And my eBay leaks?


Besides, even if it's true, I bet it's moreso leaning towards not new DLC but maybe the older stuff like Mewtwo and Royucus

I remember we had a certain Rayman leak not too long ago on youtube ;P

 

[Swamp Sensei]

The fact that we can't even download it any more makes it pretty clear its a cease and desist.

But...

Nintendo, why now? Smash 4 and Melee were much more popular than Project M. So you didn't have to worry about it. What gives?

This whole thing doesn't make sense.

 

[KenboCalrissian]

Are we allowed to talk about the leak now? Or is that still a no-no?

(Can we talk about "you know what" now? One of those characters I really like)

Is there like... a top secret for-real leaks group I don't know about, and this isn't it anymore?

The fact that we can't even download it any more makes it pretty clear its a cease and desist.

But...

Nintendo, why now? Smash 4 and Melee were much more popular than Project M. So you didn't have to worry about it. What gives?

This whole thing doesn't make sense.

I thought they (the PM team) had made it pretty clear in the past that a C&D was only likely if a character they've added themselves was going to trump a character Nintendo planned on releasing in Smash 4.

Then again, the timing coincides with the Wii U + Smash 4 + Splatoon bundle, so maybe Ninty pulled the plug thinking their holiday sales might be getting poached.

 

[A Distant Demon]

Warchamp must be in his own personal hell right now. . .dealing with at least 2 reddit pages and probably a bunch of people tagging him here for no good reason. And all of this is after . . . whatever went down.

I doubt you would read this but good luck man.

Is there like... a top secret for-real leaks group I don't know about, and this isn't it anymore?

You probably already heard about it but didn't know discussion was banned on it. I'll send a quick message in PM. I assume at least that isn't banned.

 

[CyberHyperPhoenix]

Is there like... a top secret for-real leaks group I don't know about, and this isn't it anymore?

There was a PM leak with a green haired female swordsman and nipples the enchilada and iirc, we couldn't talk about it here or something like that.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

Although I didn't personally care about Project M, I do still find that it's a shame the project has to cease development and that the latest version can no longer be downloaded.

Whatever the team does in the future however, I might be interested in that. Even if I didn't play Project M, I can't deny that they came a long and good way with it. They've got a good future ahead of them.

 

[Fenriraga]

The fact that we can't even download it any more makes it pretty clear its a cease and desist.

But...

Nintendo, why now? Smash 4 and Melee were much more popular than Project M. So you didn't have to worry about it. What gives?

This whole thing doesn't make sense.

Even then, Smash 4 is more than a year old now and Nintendo has been more than involved in a majority of Smash Tourneys since then. To say they just didn't notice it until now literally can't be possible, even with places like VGBC ceasing streams for it.

 

[Champ Gold]

The fact that we can't even download it any more makes it pretty clear its a cease and desist.

But...

Nintendo, why now? Smash 4 and Melee were much more popular than Project M. So you didn't have to worry about it. What gives?

This whole thing doesn't make sense.

And the thing is Nintendo could have C&D it (if it was) way before then a long while ago but ignored or even had a few representatives say they find it decent.

So to me it seems like something legal or straight up wanting to start fresh and we need a real explanation for it.

This just all seems fishy

 

[Substitution]

The fact that we can't even download it any more makes it pretty clear its a cease and desist.

But...

Nintendo, why now? Smash 4 and Melee were much more popular than Project M. So you didn't have to worry about it. What gives?

This whole thing doesn't make sense.

I wouldn't put too much thought into it. If they say it's not a cease and desist, then I'd say we go with that until something comes up. At this point it's mere speculation.

As a video game about lawyers once told me: Evidence is everything.

 

[AreJay25]

IIRC, didn't someone (I think Prog) say that Nintendo was fine with PM's existence, as long as they didn't have to acknowledge it?

If it is a C&D, that would have some interesting implications.

 

[Con0rrrr]

Damn... PM.

I don't care what anyone says. That game is a beautiful, beautiful thing.

Melee, in my opinion, is a perfect game in terms of mechanics. These fans took a love for the game, and expanded upon it without any pay. Only because they love this community.

It's sad that it's come to an abrupt end. I don't know why it had to happen so suddenly. Definitely seems like Nintendo jumped in, but why at this time? My hope is that Sakurai finally realized people's love for the Melee physics and is releasing Melee HD (literally the one game I want more than anything in the world). But that's obviously a pipe dream.

Whatever it is. Good luck to the team on their future endeavors.

Wavedash games. You already began to expand upon perfection. Let's see just how far they can go <3

 

[CyberHyperPhoenix]

IIRC, didn't someone (I think Prog) say that Nintendo was fine with PM's existence, as long as they didn't have to acknowledge it?

If it is a C&D, that would have some interesting implications.

Maybe Nintendo could pull a Capcom and have the PMDT pick up the mantle of making Smash 4 DLC with new DLC modes, costumes, features and more

 

[Roaring Salsa]

I'm totally sure that in less than an hour Indivisible will reach the $1,500,000. That's what always happens in the last 5 days of a popular Kickstarter/Indiegogo

Now I'm curious to see the stretch goals and how far they manage to get

 

[Champ Gold]

The only way I see this happening and this might be a possibility is that the only way PM could have been C&D if they were making a character that was gonna be a Smash 4 newcomer since they said they weren't doing any Smash newcomers.

And considering Lyn is probably still an AT by this point and I don't see Knuckles happening no matter how much I want it, it has to be the other rumored characters like Sami or Isaac

It's a stupid theory but it has some sense to it

 

[AreJay25]

Maybe Nintendo could pull a Capcom and have the PMDT pick up the mantle of making Smash 4 DLC with new DLC modes, costumes, features and more

That would be amazing.

Which is why it won't happen.

 

[Fenriraga]

The only way I see this happening and this might be a possibility is that the only way PM could have been C&D if they were making a character that was gonna be a Smash 4 newcomer since they said they weren't doing any Smash newcomers.

And considering Lyn is probably still an AT by this point and I don't see Knuckles happening no matter how much I want it, it has to be the other rumored characters like Sami or Isaac

It's a stupid theory but it has some sense to it

If that were the case they would have simply dropped the character entirely, or removed Roy and Mewtwo since both of them are in Smash 4 now.

 

[Substitution]

Once again, unless something comes up or something does point to a C&D, I don't see a reason to call shenanigans nor point fingers at Nintendo. It's all hypothetical at this point.

 

[CyberHyperPhoenix]

The only way I see this happening and this might be a possibility is that the only way PM could have been C&D if they were making a character that was gonna be a Smash 4 newcomer since they said they weren't doing any Smash newcomers.

And considering Lyn is probably still an AT by this point and I don't see Knuckles happening no matter how much I want it, it has to be the other rumored characters like Sami or Isaac

It's a stupid theory but it has some sense to it

It would makes sense if it they were told not to make one character, but the whole project?

Overkill much?

 

[Con0rrrr]

The more I think about it. I really really hope this PM does mean something for those fans of Melee.

Nintendo's slowly been supporting the community these past two years.

Guys. If it's Melee HD. Holy ****.

Hype Hat that overthinks things and is an optimist - [On]

What if Melee HD is being announced in the presentation. Or even crazier, a game engine changer for Smash 4. That wouldn't make any logical sense but holy **** if Sakurai did that I would never question the mans decisions again.

The PM C&D timing just really pokes me. Especially right before this Presentation.

 

[CyberHyperPhoenix]

If that were the case they would have simply dropped the character entirely, or removed Roy and Mewtwo since both of them are in Smash 4 now.

But they are not newcomers.

The more I think about it. I really really hope this PM does mean something for those fans of Melee.

Nintendo's slowly been supporting the community these past two years.

Guys. If it's Melee HD. Holy ****.

Hype Hat that overthinks things and is an optimist - [On]

What if Melee HD is being announced in the presentation. Or even crazier, a game engine changer for Smash 4. That wouldn't make any logical sense but holy **** if Sakurai did that I would never question the mans decisions again.

The PM C&D timing just really pokes me. Especially right before this Presentation.

Melee HD being developed/ co-developed by Wavedash games?

Certainly worth the C&D :^)

 

[Solfiner]

They removed the download cuz they were all hired by Sakurai to balance Smash 4 OBVIOUSLY.

 

[A Distant Demon]

The more I think about it. I really really hope this PM does mean something for those fans of Melee.

Nintendo's slowly been supporting the community these past two years.

Guys. If it's Melee HD. Holy ****.

Hype Hat that overthinks things and is an optimist - [On]

What if Melee HD is being announced in the presentation. Or even crazier, a game engine changer for Smash 4. That wouldn't make any logical sense but holy **** if Sakurai did that I would never question the mans decisions again.

The PM C&D timing just really pokes me. Especially right before this Presentation.

We aren't getting melee HD. The audience it caters to isn't exactly profitable and there is no way Sakurai would go that far. Take your hat off like a gentleman.

Even if this is unbridled speculation Melee HD never made any sense after Brawl was released.

I'm totally sure that in less than an hour Indivisible will reach the $1,500,000. That's what always happens in the last 5 days of a popular Kickstarter/Indiegogo

Now I'm curious to see the stretch goals and how far they manage to get

We pretty much already have confirmation of Online Co-op and expanded voice acting as stretch goals. . .so that is nice.

 

[CyberHyperPhoenix]

They removed the download cuz they were all hired by Sakurai to balance Smash 4 OBVIOUSLY.

>Balance Smash 4.
>Even though not all members do that.

Wait a minute...
Balance the game with... more music selections?
Balance the game with... more stages and costumes?

Count me in

For real that would be amazing. Imagine getting full versions of the remixes in the Xenoblade Chronicles X medley as their own songs?!?!?!?

 

[Con0rrrr]

I'll dream what I want to dream.

In a perfect world, Nintendo is really tapping into itms audience and showing a respect and love for them by tasking Wavedash games with Melee HD.

A man can dream.

Today I learned a dream can be perfection.

Melee HD would end wars

 

[Deleted member]

I don't play Project M, but it is unfortunate to know development has ceased. It was good for what it was, and it had a great run. If they are saying the termination of the mod wasn't a result of a cease and desist notice by Nintendo, then we can't really have a say on the matter.

Let's see what exciting project the team will bring next.

 

[Das Koopa]

I think there's a potential chance that maybe legal action wasn't involved, but rather that the team decided to close up shop; Twitch seems to have soft-banned it and the most popular channels hosting Smash out there have washed their hands of it to go to Nintendo. It's basically increasingly become an "underground" thing due to the legal gray area it presents.

...As a result, maybe the dev team decided to put their efforts into a platformer fighter that's basically Smash but lawyer-friendly?

Or maybe it's a mixture of things.

 

[Senselessbreak]

So I learned this is actually the result of a C&D. Sad to know this is what ended the project.

 

[AreJay25]

It's worth noting that they listed a lawyer as someone you can contact. A lawyer.

I don't know what that's all about, but he's literally the only one in the post.

 

[Deleted member]

I'll dream what I want to dream.

In a perfect world, Nintendo is really tapping into itms audience and showing a respect and love for them by tasking Wavedash games with Melee HD.

A man can dream.

Today I learned a dream can be perfection.

Melee HD would end wars

I've been wondering what improvements would a hypothetical Melee HD bring to the table for a while now. Such a game would be the only reason I'd actually buy a GameCube adapter for my Wii U.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

So I learned this is actually the result of a C&D. Sad to know this is what ended the project.

How do you know?

 

[Senselessbreak]

How do you know?

Just asked one of the members of the PM team.

 

[Z25]

Just asked one of the members of the PM team.

We just had one come in here and say that wasn't the case in the disco room though.

Seems like a false alarm, the prices match up exactly with Collection #4.

Although, the fact that their systems only got this update now seems fishy...

If it means anything, my guess is Sakurai will tell us that all collections of smash DLC will be able for purchase in actual stores through special receipts. Which could be neat.