Social Swamp's Social Thread 3 - And now, the end is near, and so I face the final curtain...

[Cutie Gwen]

Next year we're getting movies with Harley, Joker, and Deadpool. Harley. Joker. And Deadpool.

Actually, when were Harley and Joker movies confirmed? My DC fanboy friend didn't tell me anything

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

I'm not really that concerned with DOAX3's release. I figured a 3rd one had already been released by this point anyway

I dunno what was up with me really, I just find this all kind of dumb

 

[Zynux]

Why are you guys complaining about DOA when just yesterday we were talking about how the fanservice in FE is bad(which I personally think is small enough to not get in the way of my enjoyment of the game)
DOA is 100% fanservice, the game was made with that in mind, and the volleyball spin off is EVEN WORSE
There is no game, only fanservice(please don't act like anyone would play it for the gameplay), and this was the only way to censor the game, by not releasing it in the west.(I mean, no one would buy it if there was no fanservice, so it's better this way)
Like, is it like some of you were planning on getting it? Because if so, there are enough websites in the internet that will serve the same purpose

I have actually seen similar arguments like this used against Smash to play down it's relevance as a fighting/party game.

Fan service isn't just limited to sex. Fan service is literally giving what the fans want and pandering to them, and it covers many bases and categories. Megaman was pure fanservice, for example.

If we weren't battling Mario with Pikachu, Kirby, Link and Samus, would we care about Smash? Unlikely.


It's ironic that you, on a forum for a franchise that got it's relevance because of it's excessive fanservice, is trying to use that angle to talk down other franchises for them pandering to fanservice, simply because it's not the fanservice that appeals to you.

 

[FalKoopa]

Happy Birthday, @Arcanir. Keep being the swell gentleman(ce) you've always been.

And @JamesDNaux, you probably won't be able to read this, but I'm praying everything gets better soon.

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I have actually seen similar arguments like this used against Smash to play down it's relevance as a fighting/party game.

Fan service isn't just limited to sex. Fan service is literally giving what the fans want and pandering to them, and it covers many bases and categories. Megaman was pure fanservice, for example.

If we weren't battling Mario with Pikachu, Kirby, Link and Samus, would we care about Smash? Unlikely.


It's ironic that you, on a forum for a franchise that got it's relevance because of it's excessive fanservice, is trying to use that angle to talk down other franchises for them pandering to fanservice, simply because it's not the fanservice that appeals to you.

Giving what the fans want is a different type of fanservice as compared to the sexual kind.
FE Fates has a lot of the sexual kind, and not much of the 'what fans want'

I probably shouldn't jump into an argument half-way though.

 

[CyberHyperPhoenix]

Actually, when were Harley and Joker movies confirmed? My DC fanboy friend didn't tell me anything

You mean Suicide Squad? It was earlier this year iirc, I think it was one of the Comic-cons

 

[Zynux]

It should also be noted: DOAX3 is coming with English Subtitles, so I have a feeling this was a coordinated move to slip under the radar of the western media. I'm sure those who want it will be able to obtain it very easily, even if importing isn't as convenient.

Giving what the fans want is a different type of fanservice as compared to the sexual kind.
FE Fates has a lot of the sexual kind, and not much of the 'what fans want'

I probably shouldn't jump into an argument half-way though.

Sure, fair point so let's put it this way.


In Smash, we expect fanservice: all these characters, items, trophies, etc. This type of pandering can be construed as "fanservice".

DOAX fans, I assume, expect also a certain level of fanservice: purchasable swimsuits, minigames, provocative scenarios for the DOA girls, etc.


Both franchises, while obviously operating under extremely different circumstances, are filled with fans who expect and demand a level of fan service are being delivered that. Just because DOA operates heavily under sex doesn't make it much different "fanservice" game then Smash, which also largely operates by being pure fanservice and pandering.


For Fire Emblem Fates, obviously the fanbase is very divided on the new features, with some loving it while others hating it so it's harder to call it "fan service" for everyone. That's not really the case with DOAX, it's not like the sexual fanservice was added into the game later to divide the fanbase (Smash has a divided fanbase but it's about game mechanics instead of the fanservice).

 

[Deleted member]

I honestly see Dead or Alive Volley Ball as the same as porn magazines, etc. Probably not exactly but in that general form of media that's intended only for the sole purpose of satisfying sexual desires.

DoA Volley Ball can be a little creepy I admit, but I actually don't think it's inherently bad at the same time. I feel it's not meant to be taken serious and as long as people aren't going too crazy with it (the fans of it), I don't see the issue of it existing. Either or not it does promote objectification of women is indeed another subject, I don't think it itself does, but perhaps a spread mindset about it might do so.

So once again, as long as fans of it don't take it serious I don't see any issue with it existing since porn and other things like it exist. It's not a serious game.

 

[Shroob]

Man, with every day we move closer to December, I get more and more excited. Smash DLC AND Christmas!

 

[Cutie Gwen]

You mean Suicide Squad? It was earlier this year iirc, I think it was one of the Comic-cons

So THAT'S why I didn't know! Damn

 

[IceBreakerXY]

If were having a cival war which side are you on #Swamp or #NoSwamp?

In all seriousness civil war was the one movie I was really looking foward to next war.So I'm all hyped

 

[Deleted member]

That feeling when you're not as much a Marvel fan as those in this thread and you stare at this thread's hype like :

 

[Swamp Sensei]

If were having a cival war which side are you on #Swamp or #NoSwamp?

#Swamp all the way.

 

[Deleted member]

If were having a cival war which side are you on #Swamp or #NoSwamp?

In all seriousness civil war was the one movie I was really looking foward to next war.So I'm all hyped

The thread title doesn't have Swamp on it!
It's a conspiracy!

It should also be noted: DOAX3 is coming with English Subtitles, so I have a feeling this was a coordinated move to slip under the radar of the western media. I'm sure those who want it will be able to obtain it very easily, even if importing isn't as convenient.


Sure, fair point so let's put it this way.


In Smash, we expect fanservice: all these characters, items, trophies, etc. This type of pandering can be construed as "fanservice".

DOAX fans, I assume, expect also a certain level of fanservice: purchasable swimsuits, minigames, provocative scenarios for the DOA girls, etc.


Both franchises, while obviously operating under extremely different circumstances, are filled with fans who expect and demand a level of fan service are being delivered that. Just because DOA operates heavily under sex doesn't make it much different "fanservice" game then Smash, which also largely operates by being pure fanservice and pandering.


For Fire Emblem Fates, obviously the fanbase is very divided on the new features, with some loving it while others hating it so it's harder to call it "fan service" for everyone. That's not really the case with DOAX, it's not like the sexual fanservice was added into the game later to divide the fanbase (Smash has a divided fanbase but it's about game mechanics instead of the fanservice).

"Adding what the fans want" fanservice and "sexual appeal" fanservice are two very differemt situations
Yes, both are pandering to the fanbase but one adds something to the game, while the other is just sexual pandering
Like, what does the game benefit from having the extreme level of fanservice DOA has?

 

[FalKoopa]

That feeling when you're not as much a Marvel fan as those in this thread and you stare at this thread's hype like :

I know. I'm not as much into superhero movies as the other people here.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

There is no current active boycott or outrage against DOAX, so that is not the issue here.


What they are alluding to is that there is now a "culture of fear" when it comes to what mediums can and can't do with creative works in the west prior to in the past, and they said it isn't worth it. If you follow the politics and controversies of the gaming spheres, academic/college campuses, comedy, books, etc then this becomes pretty clear that some things have changed when it comes to adult/"sensitive" content (for better or for worse is up to you). This is also alluded in other mediums, like with South Park tackling into "Political Correctness" and more movements rising up against it. It's starting to become a topic not only in gaming but in other areas as well, and with these controversies becoming more common the developers are saying that they want no participation in that discussion and subsequently pulled out.

Whether you believe that or not is obviously up to you personally, but do note that there wasn't a boycott or outrage prior in particular, but that simpler terms the market may have changed and is much likelier to trigger controversies instead of before. On the flipside, it should also be noted that handheld DOAX (Paradise I think?) was received pretty poorly in comparison to the rest of the series.

This isn't the first time they have talked about this either or a random occurrence: during an interview with Team Ninja on the venturebeat they talked about this exact same issue, during the times of the DOA5 constumes and their own thoughts on "gender representation" and that they are closely paying attention to it. So if it's seen as just an excuse then it was an excuse a year in the making, and wasn't just cooked up on the spot. Don't forget, Tecmo Koei was put on the spotlight for Cia (never understood this controversy) despite there being no real issue and the cast of characters being "diverse" and was put on the spotlight for DOA5 optional downloadable costumes.


Complete speculation, but I feel that in this day and age, considering some of the controversies in the past on other media forms for their "content" I can totally see DOAX3 being up to bat this time around for the old blogger outrage machine had it been released from the usual suspects. Obviously we won't be able to see if that's the case now, since you will have to import it if you want it.

Speaking of, the same rage bloggers are now furious at Play Asia for tweeting they'll have the English version for import. How dare a business carry on as normal. It's kind of hilarious.

 

[Deleted member]

Might be best if we remove images from quotes so we don't exceed our 5 images per page limit.

 

[Zane13pyro]

If were having a cival war which side are you on #Swamp or #NoSwamp?

In all seriousness civil war was the one movie I was really looking foward to next war.So I'm all hyped

which side is iron man on XD

 

[CyberHyperPhoenix]

which side is iron man on XD

I think he would be on #swamp

 

[Zane13pyro]

I think he would be on #swamp

I know XD I was trying to be funny well he would be for a lot dlc (thanks)

 

[Cutie Gwen]

It's time for:FOOD WITH ANNA! YAAAAAY!
Kaki fruit are quite sweet, the taste is similar to that of a melon, and who doesn't like melons?
Pomegranates are 50/50, the seeds are crunchy but not too tasty, it's also a hassle to prepare this. The inedible fruit is very hard, but the seeds remind me of cherries and grapes, I'm certain there's wine of this now. Very nice and pretty, would recommend the juices
Skyr yogurt with raspberries and cranberries. Deary me, what a treat! No fat, but high natural sugars and protein. I'll get this more often

 

[MasterofMonster]

Why did none of you guys tell me this existed..? As a collector, I will have to get my hands on this, and I just know it will be a huge pain in the buttocks.

... how hard is this usually to get a hold of? Anyone know? D:

 

[IceBreakerXY]

I think he would be on #swamp

But #noswamp has spiderman

 

[LIQUID12A]

Picking two characters out, Sylux and Snake.

Just saw what @JamesDNaux is going through. Hope he's safe.

Got a snapshot of Black Panther:
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So good tho~

I need this movie already.

 

[Kenith]

Why did none of you guys tell me this existed..? As a collector, I will have to get my hands on this, and I just know it will be a huge pain in the buttocks.

... how hard is this usually to get a hold of? Anyone know? D:

I used to own this. A sibling broke and lost both the sword and shield.

 

[Neo Zero]

Well I just played pinball on a coke vending machine

I can officially say that was probably the highlight of my week. Technology is awesome lol

 

[PushDustIn]

I hope @JamesDNaux stays warm and safe It's rough, and I really hope he comes back safely.

Speaking of Zelda stuff...I own a sword/ shield necklace collection...the only issue is..it's a Chinese knockoff.

It says Twilight Princess on the box...but the back has the OoT render. On the swords and shields themselves it says "Skyward Sword". I'll take pictures and upload them to my Twitter.

Well I just played pinball on a coke vending machine

I can officially say that was probably the highlight of my week. Technology is awesome lol

The future of gaming is on vending machines. Screw dedicated consoles.

 

[LIQUID12A]

Well I just played pinball on a coke vending machine

I can officially say that was probably the highlight of my week. Technology is awesome lol

Sounds more fun than a Konami pachinko machine.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Hey @JamesDNaux , we might've debated a lot back in the day, but I hope things go well for you.

 

[Kenith]

Honestly, as stupid as the reason for not getting DOAX3 in the US is, I don't mind not getting that game.

• Any player character in Demon's Souls

There are legends of the fabled not-hideous Demon's Souls character.
However...

Spoiler

I think it's a hoax.

 

[KenboCalrissian]

I get any two characters?

Shovel Knight and Inklings. *drops mic* Say somefin.

For serious though, these past few months have been a ride for me. They've always been my two biggest wants after Mewtwo, and seeing both of them go through the leaks ringer simultaneously... it filled me with determination.

 

[Wario Bros.]

So last night I dreamed that Sam Manson from Danny Phantom was the next DLC character, required a lot of skill to use her, and had 213 color swaps/alt costumes.

What the flying hell is wrong with me???

 

[Kenith]

I get any two characters?

Shovel Knight and Inklings. *drops mic* Say somefin.

For serious though, these past few months have been a ride for me. They've always been my two biggest wants after Mewtwo, and seeing both of them go through the leaks ringer simultaneously... it filled me with determination.

If my and PushDustIn 's predictions are correct, you will be a very happy camper.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

So last night I dreamed that Sam Manson from Danny Phantom was the next DLC character, required a lot of skill to use her, and had 213 color swaps/alt costumes.

What the flying hell is wrong with me???

You ate too much cheese last night and you didn't praise Brodai Yusuke

 

[ChikoLad]

Speaking of Zelda stuff...I own a sword/ shield necklace collection...the only issue is..it's a Chinese knockoff.

I recently bought a Kingdom Hearts necklace/jewellery set that I have been told is a Chinese bootleg, which I guess makes sense looking at the box art.

But I don't care either way though because all of the contents are still of extremely good quality, and I don't think there is an official equivalent.

 

[FalKoopa]

So last night I dreamed that Sam Manson from Danny Phantom was the next DLC character, required a lot of skill to use her, and had 213 color swaps/alt costumes.

What the flying hell is wrong with me???

The Doc's pills are showing their effect.

 

[Neo Zero]

Hey @JamesDNaux , we might've debated a lot back in the day, but I hope things go well for you.

Just quoting here cuz it's the latest. I keep seeing people mention him like something happened. I was curious what was going on is all ^^;

 

[ChikoLad]

Just quoting here cuz it's the latest. I keep seeing people mention him like something happened. I was curious what was going on is all ^^;

He recently lost access to the internet and will apparently be homeless soon.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

The Doc's pills are showing their effect.

Don't let Dr. Mario touch you or give you medication, he doesn't have a degree

Just quoting here cuz it's the latest. I keep seeing people mention him like something happened. I was curious what was going on is all ^^;

He's apparently going to lose his house

 

[Neo Zero]

Oh jeez that's no good. He got anyone he can stay with?

 

[Guybrush20X6]

If you needed any more proof of Kotaku being worthless

Spoiler: Kinda big image