Social Swamp's Social Thread 3 - And now, the end is near, and so I face the final curtain...

[[Obnoxshush/Dasshizer]]

The irony of it all?

Roy being a Gamestop Exclusive basically ensures that he's going to be the easiest-to-get Fire Emblem amiibo barring Marth's recent restock, and the easiest to get over all at launch.

Do you think he'll be added into Codename S.T.E.A.M. ?

 

[AreJay25]

So if Spyro or Crash were playable, what design do you think they'd use?

I'd like to say their classic designs would be the likeliest, but then I remember who owns them...

 

[Opossum]

Do you think he'll be added into Codename S.T.E.A.M. ?

I'd love for him to be since that game needs all the love it can get...


...but at the same time I doubt it since it doesn't have the sales to warrant it. :/

 

[Deleted member]

Crash was basically my childhood, so I'd love him...


...as long as it isn't the terrible Mind Over Mutant Crash, but seeing as we got classic Mega Man and Pac-Man, non-Boom Sonic, SF2 Ryu, and FF7 Cloud, I think he'd opt for the classic design.

Titans and Mind Over Mutant weren't released in Japan anyway, plus Crash's last game was a mobile kart racer that used his TwinSanity design.

 

[AreJay25]

Crash was basically my childhood, so I'd love him...


...as long as it isn't the terrible Mind Over Mutant Crash, but seeing as we got classic Mega Man and Pac-Man, non-Boom Sonic, SF2 Ryu, and FF7 Cloud, I think he'd opt for the classic design.

Eh, I'd say Ryu's design is more akin to SF4/5.

 

[DaybreakHorizon]

Now that the direct is over, you guys have 24 hours to submit questions for the upcoming SourceCast. The Source Gaming team and Ash Paulsen will try to answer as many questions as we can. Either PMing more, to quoting this message will ensure that we get the question.

With Cloud opening the floodgates to pretty much any character, what character would you like to see in Smash?

 

[AncientTobacco]

All I'm bloody asking for is what was said in public in Tamaki's own words, not Push's interpretation or anyone else's.

I'll try to answer.

Here is Tamaki's original video on the rumor.

Spoiler

According to the rumor...the character is currently expected to be announced over the next month or two.

And here's a post on Smashboards before the official amiibo reveal (emphasis added by me).

http://smashboards.com/threads/nint...ophe-feat-swamp.405399/page-904#post-20025308

Something to remember: the rumours claim that Shovel Knight being in Smash is something that will be revealed within the next month or two; not necessarily tonight. It looks like the amiibo for Shovel Knight could be revealed tonight, but not necessarily everything at once.

Another thing to add that I have learned today is that they claim it is one of the ballot-voted characters. I don't think I mentioned that in my video.

Some tweets following the amiibo reveal.

https://twitter.com/Doctor_Cupcakes/status/636935131740172289
https://twitter.com/Doctor_Cupcakes/status/636936625612787714

Update: one of the sources of the rumour still maintains that Shovel Knight DLC is coming to Smash.

Rumour source says that the image of the Shovel Knight amiibo (which I saw before that Twitter posted it FYI) is "not final".

And then there's this Sourcegaming article, which doesn't have a direct quote from Tamaki, but apparrently "The source is also confident that Shovel Knight is a full playable character, and not a costume or some other form of DLC."

Let me know if I missed anything.

 

[LIQUID12A]

So if Spyro or Crash were playable, what design do you think they'd use?

I'd like to say their classic designs would be the likeliest, but then I remember who owns them...

It's worth noting that Sakurai would have outright denied Pac-Man entry if he couldn't use the latter's Pac-Man World design.

So it's safe to say the classic designs would be used for Spyro and/or Crash.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

I wonder what would have happened if SEGA wanted to use the new design

 

[Z25]

Here's a game inspired by real life events.

Lately lots of folks here have been on an iconic video game character love-fest since Cloud's reveal, myself included. So imagine: some billionaire benefactors commission a team to build an all-star fighting game. Using their riches, licensing fees are a non-issue, and they hire some of the best in the business to work on the game for all major systems. All that's left is the roster. That's where you come in.

Rules for the game:

You are to create an all-star fighter roster full of iconic video game characters, but to keep it a challenge as opposed to a pure wishlist, there are some ground rules.

- The starting roster is only sixteen characters. DLC can come later if sales warrant it, but assume you're only getting those sixteen. Make 'em count.
- No company, due to the sixteen character limit, can get more than two characters. This is to maintain roster diversity.
- No single series can have more than one character, so adding both Mario and Luigi, or Sonic and Tails, won't be able to occur.
- While not a mandate, and more so a guideline, do try to make your roster a diverse as possible as far as gameplay, as well.
- Because it'll be on all major consoles, Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft must have a presence.

Under these regulations, who do you pick? Tried to make it as challenging as possible to encourage some thinking.

I'd go with:

1) Mario
2) Pikachu
3) Ryu
4) Snake
5) Cloud
6) Sonic
7)Mega Man
8) Pac Man
9)Crash
10) Spyro
11) Nathan Drake( if he counts, is he non sony?)
12) Banjo and Kazzoie
13) Skropion( probably spelled wrong)
14)Master Chief
15) Steve( he counts right?)
16)Heichachi( also probably spelled wrong lol)

I believe this list follows all the rules, if not do correct me.

Now onto news overnight:
Excited to see timmy, tommy, rover, and kappn amiibos. I might buy them all, but we will see.
Roy being Gamestop exclusive isn't to bad. The stock has seemed to be steady.( my GS has like 50 nooks and got around 20 3 packs and a few mewtwos xD) So I hope I can get Roy when he releases. I assume we will hear about this and Ryu's in December.
And it's day 3 and I still can't believe Cloud is in! I don't think I'll ever get over such a shocking announcement that no one ever saw coming/happening.

 

[[Obnoxshush/Dasshizer]]

I'd love for him to be since that game needs all the love it can get...


...but at the same time I doubt it since it doesn't have the sales to warrant it. :/

Has one actually got 1,000,000 medals yet?

 

[Shadowwolflink]

(Notice how Cloud doesnt have an English voice actor? Even though he has one for his game...)

I really think that's just because they didn't have English voice clips recorded for him yet. I think he'll most likely have an English voice when he's released.

 

[powerprotoman]

I really think that's just because they didn't have English voice clips recorded for him yet. I think he'll most likely have an English voice when he's released.

i agree with this i mean even the announcer didnt know he was in so theres a chance xander hasnt gotten to record yet too

 

[Kenith]

You know most of the 3rd parties in Smash use their classic design.
You know who doesn't, but should?

Sonic.

 

[powerprotoman]

You know most of the 3rd parties in Smash use their classic design.
You know who doesn't, but should?

Sonic.

brawl is why...simple as that if sonic wasnt in brawl he would have gotten the classic treatment

 

[Metal Shop X]

You know most of the 3rd parties in Smash use their classic design.
You know who doesn't, but should?

Sonic.

Uh....It this me or Sonic should not be like, behind the title name? I mean, why we see his full body?

 

[Kenith]

Uh....It this me or Sonic should not be like, behind the title name? I mean, why we see his full body?

Oh, um...well, that's weird.
No clue why that happened.

I stand by it!

 

[Opossum]

I'd go with:

1) Mario
2) Pikachu
3) Ryu
4) Snake
5) Cloud
6) Sonic
7)Mega Man
8) Pac Man
9)Crash
10) Spyro
11) Nathan Drake( if he counts, is he non sony?)
12) Banjo and Kazzoie
13) Skropion( probably spelled wrong)
14)Master Chief
15) Steve( he counts right?)
16)Heichachi( also probably spelled wrong lol)

I believe this list follows all the rules, if not do correct me.

Now onto news overnight:
Excited to see timmy, tommy, rover, and kappn amiibos. I might buy them all, but we will see.
Roy being Gamestop exclusive isn't to bad. The stock has seemed to be steady.( my GS has like 50 nooks and got around 20 3 packs and a few mewtwos xD) So I hope I can get Roy when he releases. I assume we will hear about this and Ryu's in December.
And it's day 3 and I still can't believe Cloud is in! I don't think I'll ever get over such a shocking announcement that no one ever saw coming/happening.

Drake's still with Sony, as Naughty Dog is owned by them. Only reason Crash isn't is because Naughty Dog sold him.


I realized I never made my own version (after which I realized I was 15/16 with @N3ON instead of 14).

Pac-Man
Mario
Link
Solid Snake
Ryu
Mega Man
Sonic the Hedgehog
Crash Bandicoot
Lara Croft
Cloud Strife
Gordon Freeman
Master Chief
Kratos
Nathan Drake
Ezio Auditore
Steve

I think that'd be a nice spread for the hypothetical game.

 

[Chrono.]

I wonder what would have happened if SEGA wanted to use the new design

Japan SEGA couldn't care less about Boom.

 

[Deleted member]

My only concern if Spyro is included (aside from Skylanders being current, but as LIQUID12A stated, Sakurai can easily reject that design just as he did with Pac-Man's Ghostly Adventures look) is that most of his games haven't been released in Japan, so his moveset potential may be limited in Sakurai's point of view. Certain games such as Spyro: Shadow Legacy and The Legend of Spyro trilogy feature melee attacks and magic powers that could potentially be used in a Smash moveset...if those games were released in Japan.

 

[Oasis Dealer]

I like seeing the love for Crash. Even if he's a pipe dream, having Crash join Smash 4 would make this game have all my childhood characters in one single game. Combine that with how popular Crash used to be, and I think he would be a good fit.

With Cloud's inclusion, its raised my hope for the marsupial, but considering he's been in a hiatus state, I'm not sure how he would even be considered. Nintendo working with Activision on amiibo/Skylanders has given me SLIGHT hope that they could get Crash revived, but idk.

 

[aldelaro5]

Ok, one of the lp got to part 3 which showed some new stuff about paper jam, if you want to watch the video i will be telling stuff here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZYtHdrmhMc&index=3&list=PLCsyxsclg_0FvwG9PJ-Bkf5KNo2imlulh

The lper did not streamed it so I migth jsut have to turn on yt notification because he played it offscreen.

with that in mind there wasn't much so here we go:

There's some little cs after the bowser we saw at E3 that we didn;t see before. Both bowser jr were talking near them actually.

I can confirm that the superstar saga remix appears on duo battle before you get paper mario which btw, no lper has gotten so far.

New mechanic, you no longer get to choose a bonus stat boost after you level up.

the grass map we saw at E3 dramatically chnaged since.

You jsut beat goomba and paper goomba so far.

That's it, hope part4 will release today, it seems to be 3 per day and hopefully we will see paper mario soon

 

[Chrono.]

It sounds like this game went through hell.

 

[Godzillathewonderdog]

I think Crash is the best option for a brand new 3rd party character at this point. I wonder if Sakurai Magic would work on Activision... Probably not.

 

[Soul.]

You know most of the 3rd parties in Smash use their classic design.
You know who doesn't, but should?

Sonic.

Ehhhh

Think the modern design is a better fit imo. Would the classic design even work with his current moves anyway?

 

[Schnee117]

I think Crash is the best option for a brand new 3rd party character at this point. I wonder if Sakurai Magic would work on Activision... Probably not.

The only magic that'll work on them is of the variety that gives them a **** ton of money.

 

[Chrono.]

Ehhhh

Think the modern design is a better fit imo. Would the classic design even work with his current moves anyway?

They probably could, Sonic doesn't do much other than punch, kick and spin.

But a lot of his moves are also lifted from Sonic the Fighters, a game from his classic era.

That being said, yeah I prefer them using the modern design too.

 

[Z25]

I think Crash is the best option for a brand new 3rd party character at this point. I wonder if Sakurai Magic would work on Activision... Probably not.

It worked for Cloud who they wouldn't let into a playstation fighting game, same with Crash, pretty sure Sakurai has the magic to do the same with them, even if it is Activision.

Drake's still with Sony, as Naughty Dog is owned by them. Only reason Crash isn't is because Naughty Dog sold him.


I realized I never made my own version (after which I realized I was 15/16 with @N3ON instead of 14).

Pac-Man
Mario
Link
Solid Snake
Ryu
Mega Man
Sonic the Hedgehog
Crash Bandicoot
Lara Croft
Cloud Strife
Gordon Freeman
Master Chief
Kratos
Nathan Drake
Ezio Auditore
Steve

I think that'd be a nice spread for the hypothetical game.

Ah, then I'd add in Ezio over nathan Drake.

 

[Deleted member]

Spoiler

First off its spelt already, not alreadh
And 2nd, what we get up into the privacy of our own homes, is our own business, the fact that your trying to bring real life yuri shipping into this, shows that the trap teams traps aren't working all that well
So again I reiterate Yuri is the Purest form of love

Spoiler

That was a typo, I blame small touchscreen buttons
Hey, privacy is cool and all but I'm not the one here stalking girl couples
Again, trash is not pure

Ehhhh

Think the modern design is a better fit imo. Would the classic design even work with his current moves anyway?

I prefer the Modern Design too
Though maybe that's because the one I grew up with

 

[ChickenWing13]

Cloud for Smash Wii U!?

Great! Can't wait for Sora and Roxas

 

[MasterofMonster]

I'm sorry, have not been able to keep up with this Forum because of how slow it is, so, I will have to ask... what's going on? Pushy has some new info? Or..? Am I getting it wrong?

And Golden, don't be so angry. You'll get a tummy ache. D:

 

[Z25]

Oh and I forgot to mention the pokemon news. It has a decent chance of being the movie, but I really hope it isn't and that it's Z's announcement. If it isn't, then I am calling it that Z will be announced at E3.

 

[Arcanir]

On the note of Spyro, how popular is he in Japan? I know that a good number of his games have missed the region (such as the Legend subseries) and even Skylanders took a while to get over there, but does he and his games do well over there?

1. He'd balance Cloud perfectly. I actually mentioned this at the end of the first SourceCast episode (so if it's true, I deserve all the fame and glory) that a Japanese rep coupled with SK would make sense. Cloud and SK are opposite ends of the spectrum in almost every aspect. In a way, they balance each other. Releasing them together would ensure someone has something to be happy about...well almost everyone.
(Notice how Cloud doesnt have an English voice actor? Even though he has one for his game...)

I honestly can't agree with this.

Firstly, the only way they're on "opposite ends of the spectrum" is if you only look at the ballot, which is dubious at best since as you said before, online poll data may not show the whole picture. Even if that was the case, Cloud is much larger in the one region he's not as popular in and is extremely popular overall while Shovel Knight is completely unknown in the region he's not popular in and isn't as notable to the region he is popular in. It's not a good balance if the "Japanese rep" is hugely well known while the "Western rep" is much less well known, it's basically like saying the Beatles are balanced out by your local band.

Also, I wouldn't use the lack of an English VA as an indicator for Cloud's status as we don't know the situation at all with him. NoA could've easily skipped out on getting him for their own reasons and it's not the first time they've done that either considering Mewtwo lacked an English VA for both Melee and Smash 4.

 

[Soul.]

Z shouldn't be announced at E3 next year.
I'm betting its announcement around January to March at the earliest.

 

[Chrono.]

Z shouldn't be announced at E3 next year.
I'm betting its announcement around January to March at the earliest.

Yeah this

Pokemon games usually get announced early on in the year.

Not to mention, Pokemon has never been a main thing at E3.

 

[Z25]

Z shouldn't be announced at E3 next year.
I'm betting its announcement around January to March at the earliest.

Yeah this

Pokemon games usually get announced early on in the year.

Not to mention, Pokemon has never been a main thing at E3.

It shouldn't but if they are going big for Z( such as new pokemon, expanded story and more) then I could see a pushed back announcement. Even @Serebii says that it's probably movie news in corocoro as they get announced around this time and we know that Zygarde is the focus of the next movie. He says it could still be Z but he doesn't think so.

 

[AreJay25]

On the note of Spyro, how popular is he in Japan? I know that a good number of his games have missed the region (such as the Legend subseries) and even Skylanders took a while to get over there, but does he and his games do well over there?

Spyro pretty much always took a backseat to Crash in Japan. He was nowhere near as successful there as he was in NA and Europe (all of the original trilogy sold at least a million copies separately in those regions).

 

[Deleted member]

On the note of Spyro, how popular is he in Japan? I know that a good number of his games have missed the region (such as the Legend subseries) and even Skylanders took a while to get over there, but does he and his games do well over there?

I don't know the exact numbers (sure, there's VGChartz, but that's not always accurate), but some drastic changes were made to the first two games, resulting in them being critically panned and selling poorly.

 

[A Distant Demon]

I vastly prefer modern sonic to classic \_(ツ)_/¯

Crash and spyro would be awesome. Spyro 2 was my first game ever (still one of my favorites ) and CTR was my 2nd. So i would loooove to see them. Crash is probably the one i would pick. I prefer spyro but crash fits more and is/was a huge icon. Just. . .not the modern designs. Both of them suck

 

[Kenith]

Ehhhh

Think the modern design is a better fit imo. Would the classic design even work with his current moves anyway?

Why wouldn't it? Those moves were made with classic Sonic in mind.
They're taken from classic Sonic games and Sonic the Fighters.

I get what you mean though, but I really prefer old school Sonic...

Maybe it's because of what modern Sonic is associated with...and the fact he doesn't talk...