Social Swamp's Social Thread 3 - And now, the end is near, and so I face the final curtain...

[Z25]

Primal Volcanion what?

Just a theory I have. Volcanion is part of a event trio. It starts with Diancie who got it's own movie for XY first, which gave him a mega. We then had hoopa, who was next and became the second XY movie. Hoopa got it's own form change, this time in the form of an alternate form. So if we go by that logic, the 3rd movie will bring in Volcanion, who will get a new form. Mega and alternate forms are used already so the last form we could use, is a primal( or a new one, but I don't see that happening unless Z comes out or is announced first).

My theory is that in the 3rd movie, Some evil villain( team flare maybe) awaken volcanion and cause it to create a massive volcanic eruption. This disrupts an ecosystem, so Zygarde is awakened( as an attempt for the villain to capture it). and has to mega evolve to try and save the day. However something happens and volcanion goes into Primal form and the situation worsens.

I can see a primal for it as well because in the unused episodes for the tv station in ORAS. They talk about Brandon and his encounters with volcanion in some ancient jungle somewhere. With these things coming together, I find a Primal Volcanion for Z likely.

 

[Kenith]

if cloud is an early ballot character, it soft-confirms banjo and kazooie for me
i don't even particularly like them

Wow uh, yeah I agree. Lol.
I didn't expect anyone to agree with that.

 

[Soul.]

His legs are shown to be stretch out of proportion for both images here. I don't see why it's impossible to exaggerate this further to suit Classic Sonic.

Wait, really?

I thought with the difference in legs it would have shown the actual range of the move.

 

[Baskerville]

http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2015/...l-upgrades-between-trailers-comparison-shows/

To the people worried about KOF14

Slowly but surely its getting better.
But oh lord that first image, I legit had to watch the first teaser to check if that was actually real.

 

[Deleted member]

needs more pepper

It's just dumbfounding though

Who puts pepper in their fries Smash game? You only need salt
And fan tears have just the right amount of salt for them

Classic Sonic. Worse design, better games.

His newer look was predictable really. Most characters seem to lose weight as they age. If only it worked like that irl. x_x

Haha I wish :^)

Just a theory I have. Volcanion is part of a event trio. It starts with Diancie who got it's own movie for XY first, which gave him a mega. We then had hoopa, who was next and became the second XY movie. Hoopa got it's own form change, this time in the form of an alternate form. So if we go by that logic, the 3rd movie will bring in Volcanion, who will get a new form. Mega and alternate forms are used already so the last form we could use, is a primal( or a new one, but I don't see that happening unless Z comes out or is announced first).

My theory is that in the 3rd movie, Some evil villain( team flare maybe) awaken volcanion and cause it to create a massive volcanic eruption. This disrupts an ecosystem, so Zygarde is awakened( as an attempt for the villain to capture it). and has to mega evolve to try and save the day. However something happens and volcanion goes into Primal form and the situation worsens.

I can see a primal for it as well because in the unused episodes for the tv station in ORAS. They talk about Brandon and his encounters with volcanion in some ancient jungle somewhere. With these things coming together, I find a Primal Volcanion for Z likely.

This reminds me
I wish Pokemon events were done like in the past
Where you unlocked new areas to go and catch the Legendaries
Or unlocked other ingame events like HGSS's Celebi

 

[AncientTobacco]

By the way, @PushDustIn

Is there a translation for Sakurai's tweets following the "difficult request" comment? He made two responses to some guy that seem to be about Cloud: https://twitter.com/Sora_Sakurai/with_replies

 

[Kenith]

Well my opinion got buried. Let's try a different one.
I too think Banjo and Kazooie are very likely to be added to Smash 4 as DLC.

 

[SegaNintendoUbisoft]

I don't agree at all.
Sure, it might be the most recognizable...to people who followed Sonic past his games that are well-remembered.
Either way, both design is undeniably Sonic, so it would be fine either way.

What I really want is for SEGA to make something like this:

And then use THAT in Smash.

Hm...that is actually a good point.

I will say though, I love that design, reminds me a lot of SA1 Sonic.
I guess we'll just agree to disagree, I wouldn't be mad if Classic Sonic was used, but I think using the modern design was a good idea, it does represent the Sonic that became allies with Nintendo.

Sonic's modern design is also the one featured in all of the Olympic crossovers with Mario, which kinda symbolize the partnership between Nintendo and Sega.

Spoiler

I still can't get over how much I love that render of Mario and Sonic in the Rio Olympic Games, I wish it was used in something other than a party game.

 

[Z25]

Well my opinion got buried. Let's try a different one.
I too think Banjo and Kazooie are very likely to be added to Smash 4 as DLC.

I think that they could definitely happen after Cloud. I don't know if they will though, because Cloud shattered my expectations xD. I do think it means that Banjo is definitely more likely, and it helps that Microsoft is ok with it. I wouldn't say they are confirmed though.

 

[Luigi The President]

In no specific order
Old men yelling at Cloud... multiple times
Salt
Somehow Shovel Knight
Traps or Yuri discussion
Being angry over videogame rumors
#prayforparis
Master Chief in Smash
Pokemon "it's ****ing nothing" future news
Gamexplain doing an analysis of 9 minutes of a 10 second trailer
And more salt

Traps or Yuri. Willing to bet we heard one "we're better then tumblr doe" in there.
Lol, Pokemon news about nothing happening? Reminds me of Etika, kinda.
We always get Shovel Knight in not surprised
Salt. I felt it.
Master Chief..I should write something up about that.
And classic Gamexplain.

Thanks ZK!

You missed one hell of an announcement, hope you haven't gotten it spoiled for you already.

...I was gone for a day, not for the Direct.

 

[CyberHyperPhoenix]

By the way, @PushDustIn

Is there a translation for Sakurai's tweets following the "difficult request" comment? He made two responses to some guy that seem to be about Cloud: https://twitter.com/Sora_Sakurai/with_replies

The only thing I got from the first one was how he struggled with the range of his sword and is a fast character.

 

[Deleted member]

@PushDustIn

Spoiler

1. You weren't the only person to PM me. I got multiple PMs within a span of a few minutes asking for extra information. My post was to prevent even more PMs from incoming, and to remind people about #3.

You could have at least said directly TO MY FACE you wouldn't be able to provide me the information I asked for. I wouldn't have liked it since I wasn't asking for anything actually confidential (which I'll get to in a moment), but I wouldn't have felt as if I was being wronged on a personal level.

2. Calm down. It's a rumor about a character in a video game. I'm not trying to play games with you or anything else.

I'm not one to appreciate being ignored after asking a simple question and then being indirectly being told I'm not going to get an answer in public.

Yeah, it's not "a rumor about a character in a video game". Now do you actually understand what it is I'm angry about?

3. I can't sell out people's sources. You need to realize there's a line that I can't cross with reporting. It would ruin my credibility and any other chances I could have to build professional relations with other sources. I discuss that kind of stuff here. With sensitive information like this, people's jobs are endangered, if not their livelihood. People need to respect that and take it serious.

Because asking for someone's own words that were stated in public for clarification purposes is asking you to "sell out people's sources".
Am I asking for information I'm not supposed to be in the know about? No.
I'm asking for something that is "supposed" to be public knowledge that I can't trust the public to give me a 100% accurate reading of.
And clearly, I can't trust you to give me a 100% accurate reading either at this point.

Is literally everything from the source that I could report on and was posted months ago. I made that post for you guys. That's everything that was not speculation. That's the information you need to be paying attention to. I dont know how I can make it any clearer.

Which literally tells me nothing other than "yeah, Tamaki says Shovel Knight is rumored to be DLC and his source is trustworthy". It tells me nothing about what he has publically said in regards to the expected reveal date. It tells me nothing about what he has said in regards to Shovel Knight "being the next character released". It tells me nothing about the amiibo other than Nintendo Life finding out about it on their own.
It tells me nothing.


But whatever. I don't care anymore now that I've typed this out and worked on some schoolwork simultaneously. If I'm not going to get clarification, I'm just going to have to stick with potentially Chinese whispered information that I have heard and just go with my gut that Cloud most likely killed Shovel Knight.

Last I'm going to say on the thread about this.

 

[aldelaro5]

Traps or Yuri. Willing to bet we heard one "we're better then tumblr doe" in there.
Lol, Pokemon news about nothing happening? Reminds me of Etika, kinda.
We always get Shovel Knight in not surprised
Salt. I felt it.
Master Chief..I should write something up about that.
And classic Gamexplain.

Thanks ZK!

...I was gone for a day, not for the Direct.

Well, i basically get a lot of paper jam info because there's 2 german lp up on yt and I know for a fact that we will get more in the coming days

 

[Deleted member]

The only thing I got from the first one was how he struggled with the range of his sword and is a fast character.

So....Cloud being "difficult" had to do with gameplay, not his relation to Square Enix?

Well I'll be damned....Cloud might be pre-ballot after all.

 

[Deleted member]

Traps or Yuri. Willing to bet we heard one "we're better then tumblr doe" in there.
Lol, Pokemon news about nothing happening? Reminds me of Etika, kinda.
We always get Shovel Knight in not surprised
Salt. I felt it.
Master Chief..I should write something up about that.
And classic Gamexplain.

Thanks ZK!

...I was gone for a day, not for the Direct.

Oh yeah, we also had some "Tumblr" arguments
Which ended up with an user being thread post blocked
But the trap vs. Yuri discussion has been rather civil
Pokemon news is going to be next month, though it's likely just movie news

 

[Godzillathewonderdog]

Traps or Yuri. Willing to bet we heard one "we're better then tumblr doe" in there.
Lol, Pokemon news about nothing happening? Reminds me of Etika, kinda.
We always get Shovel Knight in not surprised
Salt. I felt it.
Master Chief..I should write something up about that.
And classic Gamexplain.

Thanks ZK!

...I was gone for a day, not for the Direct.

People are still hyped about the announcements. Is it that surprising?

 

[Kenith]

So....Cloud being "difficult" had to do with gameplay, not his relation to Square Enix?

Well I'll be damned....Cloud might be pre-ballot after all.

No, because it's not the "difficult" part that implicates the ballot, it's the "request" part.
Otherwise I wouldn't think he was alluding to the ballot requests.

if he said something like, "This was a difficult character to add" without mentioning requests, yeah I'd lean more towards being pre-ballot.

 

[Chrono.]

Few things that help BK (Banjo&Kazooie, not Burger King, there's no helping that).

• Have been highly requested for years
• Microsoft are willing to play nice (Phil Spencer's tweet, as well as Minecraft U likely being a thing)
• Was considered for Melee, if he was on Sakurai's mind once, he could very well be again

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Daddy I want one

 

[N3ON]

Like I want Banjo in Smash so much if I actually start expecting him and he doesn't happen my heart is going to break.

BK is my favourite non-Smash game of all time and Banjo has been my most wanted character literally since Smash 64. One could say he's the Ridley to my Chrono.

The only thing that's kept me sane since Spencer's tweet (well, since a few minutes after Spencer's tweet once I got dragged back down to earth) is reminding myself of how much of a longshot it is.

 

[Kenith]

Like I want Banjo in Smash so much if I actually start expecting him and he doesn't happen my heart is going to break.

BK is my favourite non-Smash game of all time and Banjo has been my most wanted character literally since Smash 64. One could say he's the Ridley to my Chrono.

The only thing that's kept me sane since Spencer's tweet (well, since a few minutes after Spencer's tweet once I got dragged back down to earth) is reminding myself of how much of a longshot it is.

Okay...would BANJO make up for Isaac then?
...
I should clarify.
The reason that I'm asking this is because it really bums me out how Isaac is probably not ever getting included.

This applies to all of the characters that have been supported since Brawl...King K. Rool, Dixie Kong, Isaac, Midna, Banjo & Kazooie, and even to a degree, Krystal and Geno.

I feel like this group of characters are all Nintendo All-Stars but despite that most of them don't have good representation.

However it especially hurts for Isaac because he's one of the ones where it seemed like he was very likely at first and then was immediately buried every subsequent update.

 

[Chrono.]

This is such a tease (mock-up by @gameonion )

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Daddy I want one

holy **** those are snakes on his wings

Looks like a decent arcade game

 

[Kenith]

This is such a tease (mock-up by @gameonion )

With every character inclusion Smash looks closer and closer to a fangame.
AND I LOVE IT.

(PS, send me high-res plz?)

 

[Luigi The President]

People are still hyped about the announcements. Is it that surprising?

It's surprising we got 50 pages yeah

Well, i basically get a lot of paper jam info because there's 2 german lp up on yt and I know for a fact that we will get more in the coming days

Great! What info did you get?

Oh yeah, we also had some "Tumblr" arguments
Which ended up with an user being thread post blocked
But the trap vs. Yuri discussion has been rather civil
Pokemon news is going to be next month, though it's likely just movie news

Hopefully the discussion ends...

 

[Fenriraga]

There was a problem fetching the tweet

Cloud's English VA hasn't even been asked to do it yet.

I'm thinking we aren't getting English acting for him in Smash...

 

[IntelliHeath1]

Last I'm going to say on the thread about this.

From what I understand, that you are offended that Push didn't replied to your private message because he made the post on the thread regard with PMs. Maybe you should take a time to think about it that he might ignore other people's messages as well so he decided to make it easy for him by announcing it on the thread so no one would bugging him about the sources or rumors itself.

Nothing personal but it surly sound like you are buttwounded by him not sharing anything more than what he already said in the public. I think what he did is right because he is trying to keep it strictly professional with the sources by not risking their jobs.

I know you are hot-headed sometime but just don't try to start **** because it don't went your way. Just stop and take a breath. There are no needs to be upset about video games rumors, etc.

 

[Chrono.]

With every character inclusion Smash looks closer and closer to a fangame.
AND I LOVE IT.

(PS, send me high-res plz?)

There you go.

 

[Poots]

This is such a tease (mock-up by @gameonion )

I REALLY hope they clean up the CSS once all of the DLC characters have been revealed/released. Seeing Link, Meta knight, the clones and most of the DLC characters being isolated from the rest of their series is bugging me.

 

[Soul.]

Cloud on 3DS. Mock up. Lol.

I wonder how exactly are they going to do this. Shrink the icons?

edit: source
https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/3stewo/how_will_the_3ds_css_look_like_after_the_cloud/

 

[Space Stranger]

There was a problem fetching the tweet

Cloud's English VA hasn't even been asked to do it yet.

I'm thinking we aren't getting English acting for him in Smash...

To be fair, it is still a bit early since we don't know when the December direct will premiere. Depending on the date, Cloud's VA could be called either tomorrow, the end of November, etc.

Like Ryu, they're going to use his English voice.

 

[Deleted member]

Hopefully the discussion ends...

Stop kinkshaming me

Daddy I want one

WHERE IS THIS FROM?

 

[Kenith]

There you go.

That was fast. Thanks!
Now to add all my most wanted characters to it.

 

[Arcanir]

Daddy I want one

While I'll admit that I still don't like the design that much, that attack does look cool.

Stop kinkshaming me

WHERE IS THIS FROM?

Pokémon Tretta, it's an arcade game in Japan. Zygarde was added for its Ultimate Z update.

 

[Z25]

Stop kinkshaming me

WHERE IS THIS FROM?

Pokemon Tretta Z, the Japanese exclusive arcade game.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Stop kinkshaming me

WHERE IS THIS FROM?

My hopes and dreams for Pokken

 

[Deleted member]

While I'll admit that I still don't like the design that much, that attack does look cool.



Pokémon Tretta, it's an arcade game in Japan. Zygarde was added for its Ultimate Z update.

Pokemon Tretta Z, the Japanese exclusive arcade game.

Mfw we get Perfect Zygarde in an Arcade game before a main series game

My hopes and dreams for Pokken

Is that supposed to be a typo on purpose?

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Mfw we get Perfect Zygarde in an Arcade game before a main series game

Is that supposed to be a typo on purpose?

Dunno lol, I found the image like that

 

[Luigi The President]

Also, I'm sure we've gone over it, but how could you get the licensing for cloud in like 4 months? A character, stage, costumes, and trophies?

@PushDustIn

Spoiler

You could have at least said directly TO MY FACE you wouldn't be able to provide me the information I asked for. I wouldn't have liked it since I wasn't asking for anything actually confidential (which I'll get to in a moment), but I wouldn't have felt as if I was being wronged on a personal level.



Yeah, it's not "a rumor about a character in a video game". Now do you actually understand what it is I'm angry about?



Because asking for someone's own words that were stated in public for clarification purposes is asking you to "sell out people's sources".
Am I asking for information I'm not supposed to be in the know about? No.
I'm asking for something that is "supposed" to be public knowledge that I can't trust the public to give me a 100% accurate reading of.
And clearly, I can't trust you to give me a 100% accurate reading either at this point.



Which literally tells me nothing other than "yeah, Tamaki says Shovel Knight is rumored to be DLC and his source is trustworthy". It tells me nothing about what he has publically said in regards to the expected reveal date. It tells me nothing about what he has said in regards to Shovel Knight "being the next character released". It tells me nothing about the amiibo other than Nintendo Life finding out about it on their own.
It tells me nothing.


But whatever. I don't care anymore now that I've typed this out and worked on some schoolwork simultaneously. If I'm not going to get clarification, I'm just going to have to stick with potentially Chinese whispered information that I have heard and just go with my gut that Cloud most likely killed Shovel Knight.

Last I'm going to say on the thread about this.

I agree with you, Shovel Knight's dead, but you are dead pissed about this and it's really unnecessary. I realize you have a short temper but this is just uncalled for.

Like, this is kinda childish, dude, did you expect a VIP treatment or something? Sure seems like it. You act like the dude just broke a 5 year promise.

 

[AreJay25]

So Pokemon Z got confirmed after all

Just not in the way we expected

Lol