Social Swamp's Social Thread 3 - And now, the end is near, and so I face the final curtain...

[AreJay25]

How does something like Infinity even struggle?

Seems like the type of thing that would sell pretty well, especially with how popular amiibo's are.

 

[SegaNintendoUbisoft]

I did have some interest in Disney Infinity, though the toys-to-life thing sort of killed it for me. Despite that, I did always love how the figures looked, and since it's ending, I'm interested in getting Stitch.

 

[Opossum]

Apparently the last releases they're doing are the Burton Alice in Wonderland characters, and the Finding Nemo/Dory playset and characters.


This also means Peter Pan won't be coming out, and they're ending it before they get to make Goofy. Wow. I'm actually incredibly sad now. :/

 

[Erureido]

So I finally watched the newest Pokemon XY&Z episode featuring the rematch between Diantha and Ash.

You know the anime is doing something right by making the champion more memorable by making her care about the ongoing Kalos crisis, unlike in the games (the other improvement I've noticed between the anime and the games is that the Team Flare scientists are getting more spotlight, though they could use a little more of it, to the point I finally remember their names). Yes, it seemed like Diantha was aware about Team Flare, but we never saw her actually help you avert the crisis like Steven, Lance, Cynthia, and Alder did, and that made Diantha even more forgettable. The fact that she's going to do her best to stop Team Flare in the anime gives me hope that we'll see her again before the Kalos Pokemon League episodes begin.

Also, that fight between Greninja and Mega Gardevoir was gold. Ash almost defeating Diantha's ace Pokemon... I was speechless.

 

[Red & Green]

The only reason I got Disney Infinity 3.0 was for Inside Out, honestly. I was ADDICTED to that movie last summer. Couldn't separate me from it, it was such a good movie. Best Pixar movie IMO. But that's beside the point. Sad to see it go, anywho.

 

[AwesomeAussie27]

Shame about what happened with Infinity since it seemed like the perfect rival for Skylanders. At least there's Kingdom Hearts whenever the hell Square stops beating around the bush (not in that way you perverts).

 

[Substitution]

How does something like Infinity even struggle?

Seems like the type of thing that would sell pretty well, especially with how popular amiibo's are.

I'm assuming either loss of interest or a decline in popularity. And I wouldn't be surprised if it, Skylanders, and Amiibo being barraged all at once helped kill that market.

Whether the same will happen to the other two I have no idea.

 

[SuperMii3D]

I'm assuming either loss of interest or a decline in popularity. And I wouldn't be surprised if it, Skylanders, and Amiibo being barraged all at once helped kill that market.

Whether the same will happen to the other two I have no idea.

Nintendo can save the amiibo, but they need the amiibo to have bigger impacts on their games besides getting daily items or some small skins. Mini Mario and Friends amiibo is a good start, but they need to incorporate more of their amiibo big time.

 

[Solfiner]

I ****ing love the starters, this is the first time since gen 3 I'm having a difficult time picking one.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

How does something like Infinity even struggle?

Seems like the type of thing that would sell pretty well, especially with how popular amiibo's are.

I think it's vagueness in the marketing. I have little to no experience with TTL games but I knew what kind of game Skylanders was and why the TTL gimmick worked for it. Infinity, I couldn't tell you. In fact the PC version has no compatibility with the toys which raises more questions. As for the other two big ones, Lego Dimensions is a standard Lego game with a lot of licences crossing over and amiibo sells themselves on the potential for interactivity with multiple games.

Nintendo can save the amiibo, but they need the amiibo to have bigger impacts on their games besides getting daily items or some small skins. Mini Mario and Friends amiibo is a good start, but they need to incorporate more of their amiibo big time.

Let's hope they learn from the negative reception that AC: amiibo party got and don't just use amiibo to try and sell games by themselves. If it was a free game that you simply needed amiibo to play, it may have worked, as it is, it's a party game that's a chore to play.

 

[_Sheik]

#TeamMoon
#TeamRowlet

The fifth and six generations of Pokemon were a certain letdown in terms of creature design (with some rare exceptions, I admit). Now though, we have only six Pokemon and I love three of them (Rowlet, Magearna, Moonlegendary), like two of them (Litten, Sunlegendary), am not amused by the last one (Popplio), that's a 5/6 win rate for Sugimori so far

I can't wait to see more.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

While that Sun & Moons hype is happening...

When the heck are we going to get news on Ash-Greninja and the new Zygarde forms in the core games?

I think the Ash-Greninja is an anime exclusive form. As for Zygarde's other forms, they might have their chance to shine in the 7th generation.

 

[Red & Green]

I think it's vagueness in the marketing. I have little to no experience with TTL games but I knew what kind of game Skylanders was and why the TTL gimmick worked for it. Infinity, I couldn't tell you. In fact the PC version has no compatibility with the toys which raises more questions. As for the other two big ones, Lego Dimensions is a standard Lego game with a lot of licences crossing over and amiibo sells themselves on the potential for interactivity with multiple games.

Well, I think people just look at DI figures and go, "Oh, that's neat" but they really would rather only have the movies because let's keep it real, here, not many people both like Disney and video games at the same time. Plus, considering how they keep making games and you can't really use your playsets from the other games in the more recent ones kinda just gives it a lack of content. And there was no real purpose in DI. I mean, yeah, you can make your own stuff, and that's cool, but you don't get the same kind of simplicity you'd find in Mario Maker. Overall Disney Infinity is really complicated on Level Building, the limitations the game put you on pushed away potential buyers, and again, the figures are really best used for eye candy, honestly. I dunno, that could just be me.

 

[powerprotoman]

speaking of pokemon you know what id like to see in gens 8 and 9? no old pokemon...hear me out now

how this would work is that after you beat gen 10's story you get the national dex and after you go through the post game you get the newly implemented Global Dex

i know this wont happen but man it would be rad if it did

 

[SuperMii3D]

Let's hope they learn from the negative reception that AC: amiibo party got and don't just use amiibo to try and sell games by themselves. If it was a ree game that you simply needed amiibo to play, it may have worked, as it is, it's a party game that's a chore to play.

Edit your posts! You pulled a double post!

Anyways, the biggest problem with Amiibo Festival is that its main purpose was just to be an excuse to make Animal Crossing amiibo. There was no real intention to make a game for them, but since the developer (I forget their name) wanted the amiibo, they needed to make a game for it. So in this case, RIP game quality.

 

[Chrono.]

speaking of pokemon you know what id like to see in gens 8 and 9? no old pokemon...hear me out now

how this would work is that after you beat gen 10's story you get the national dex and after you go through the post game you get the newly implemented Global Dex

i know this wont happen but man it would be rad if it did

Man, Gen 7 isn't even really here yet.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

speaking of pokemon you know what id like to see in gens 8 and 9? no old pokemon...hear me out now

how this would work is that after you beat gen 10's story you get the national dex and after you go through the post game you get the newly implemented Global Dex

i know this wont happen but man it would be rad if it did

They did it gen 5

 

[powerprotoman]

Man, Gen 7 isn't even really here yet.

ya but ive already seen a meowth in the trailer for sun and moon therefor i have to jump to gen 8+

They did it gen 5

no i mean no old pokemon at all even in post game

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

I remember hearing Disney Infinity was struggling.
Guess it got to the point were they had to end it.

To be very fair, Disney Infinity is a money hog with the figurine requirements. Games that require you to buy figurines to play aren't exactly a good thing to be getting, because it can take one heck of a toll on your wallet.

At least with the amiibo, it's not like you "need" to use them in most games, as they simply just offer bonus contents, with some of the contents actually being unlockable by other methods; an example being Star Fox Zero, where the Fox and Falco amiibo are not necessarily needed to unlock the Retro Arwing and Black Arwing.

 

[Opossum]

To be very fair, Disney Infinity is a money hog with the figurine requirements. Games that require you to buy figurines to play aren't exactly a good thing to be getting, because it can take one heck of a toll on your wallet.

At least with the amiibo, it's not like you "need" to use them in most games, as they simply just offer bonus contents, with some of the contents actually being unlockable by other methods; an example being Star Fox Zero, where the Fox and Falco amiibo are not necessarily needed to unlock the Retro Arwing and Black Arwing.

In theory you didn't "need" more than one figure for most things. The core of the game was the toy box building, which you only really need one for. It's the only mandatory aspect.

I'll likely be doing a writeup at some point today regarding the news.

 

[DoodleDuck97]

Think of all the jobs that just went out with infinity.
That's depressing in itself.
And just as I was getting back into collecting it.

 

[_Sheik]

As for Zygarde's other forms, they might have their chance to shine in the 7th generation.

Just because X and Y didn't get a third complementary version doesn't mean Sun and Moon won't.

So I believe Eclipse or whatever will focus both on a third-party (think Rayquaza, Kyurem) 7th gen legendary Pokémon and Zygarde.

After all, it was stated in the Pokémon Direct of February...





It all comes together.

 

[Ura]

Does that include all Disney games (DAC and DMW) or just DI?

 

[AreJay25]

Does that include all Disney games (DAC and DMW) or just DI?

I think just DI.

Nintendo/Namco are publishing the other two so they should be fine.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Anyways, the biggest problem with Amiibo Festival is that its main purpose was just to be an excuse to make Animal Crossing amiibo. There was no real intention to make a game for them, but since the developer (I forget their name) wanted the amiibo, they needed to make a game for it. So in this case, RIP game quality.

The amusing part of the story is that pretty much all of the amiibo that were made for Animal Crossing: amiibo Festival are also usable in Super Mario Maker. That could save you some trouble with the 100 Mario Challenge, but other than that, the Animal Crossing amiibo are very impractical to even be purchasing if you don't own amiibo Festival.

 

[Coricus]

Wait. . .what?

Disney Infinity shut down?

I'm kind of surprised, it seemed like those toys were literally everywhere, with their sections dwarfing Amiibo sections and stores that didn't even have Amiibo stocking them to the brim.

Then again, maybe that's part of the issue. They could have had the opposite problem of Amiibo and decided to overstock their shelves instead of understocking them and getting stuck with a shipping strike.



Still kind of odd, though. You always hear about how half the industry is on the verge of shutting down, but when somebody does go it ends up being a company no one even talks about being in trouble.

 

[AlphaSSB]

I never cared for Infinity, so the cancellation of it doesn't really bother me as much as it kinda surprises me. It will be pretty wierd going into a store like GameStop or Best Buy and not seeing the walls lines with characters.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

I never cared for Infinity, so the cancellation of it doesn't really bother me as much as it kinda surprises me. It will be pretty wierd going into a store like GameStop or Best Buy and not seeing the walls lines with characters.

Much like you, I never did bother with Skylanders and Disney Infinity. Sure I own a few amiibo, but it's not like their usage is mandatory for most games.

 

[Substitution]

Now that I think about it, was there anything else you could use Disney figures for apart from Disney Infinity?
That could've helped with the decline. Putting all your eggs in one basket and such.

 

[Opossum]

Think of all the jobs that just went out with infinity.
That's depressing in itself.
And just as I was getting back into collecting it.

300.


The closing of Avalanche Software cost 300 people to lose their jobs. Among them? John Vignocchi and Allison Petrek, DI's two biggest people bridging the gap to fans. JV loved the job more than life itself, and Allison has a baby on the way. Now they're both jobless, alongside 298 others. It's terrible.

 

[Z25]

I'm not really sure how I feel about the pokemon being simpler.

I could potentially see the pokemon turning out less interesting

I think that simple designs can still work. I’d wait to see how each mon is designed before commenting on it. Simple could probably be pulled off but we need to wait and see how it’s done in full before viewing what it is and means.


And sad to hear about DI. Sorry to the fans of it. It’s shame that all the figure both out and unreleased that go with it.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

Spoiler: Bravely Second Spoiler

@Zebei Given the stinger at the end of Bravely Second with Ringabel confirming to his superior that he has located the Sword of the Brave and the fact that the bestiary entry for a bonus boss (Jabberwork) talks about how Yulyana has gone to a different world, with otherwise little mention, could we see Ringabel and Sage Yulyana be major characters in a hypothetical Bravely Third, with the former being a playable character in said hypothetical game?

 

[Chrono.]

EA just said in their earnings call a new Star Wars Battlefront is coming out next year.

They're gonna turn this into a yearly franchise, are they?

 

[Substitution]

EA just said in their earnings call a new Star Wars Battlefront is coming out next year.

They're gonna turn this into a yearly franchise, are they?

It's the motto of EA:
Milk it until it's dry, and still continue to milk it.

 

[Con0rrrr]

I made this ****ty video if anyone cares and wants some humor

 

[Retroend]

oh man so much hype today! i'm so getting sun version! but the starters. i can't fully decide. i'm leaning towards team rowlet, but if litten becomes a fire tiger with a cool design, then i'll pick him up instead.

 

[ChikoLad]

Disney Infinity just died.

Disney cancels struggling Infinity video game line. Takes $147 million charge. End of Disney as video game publisher.

— Ben Fritz (@benfritz) May 10, 2016

Wow. I'm shocked. Guess I can kiss 4.0 debuting a Kingdom Hearts playset goodbye.

I kinda wanna snoop around the local stores to see if I can find some characters I like, but I have to spend my money on more important things right now.

Still, real shame. I wanted to get into them in the future, but I don't think there's a point now. Though I guess they will put some starter packs on sale.

 

[Ura]

Don't really care about Disney all that much but I guess it must be a bummer for people that were in to that series.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Only one I want is stitch.

I might have also wanted goofy...

 

[AwesomeAussie27]

It's the motto of EA:
Milk it until it's dry, and still continue to milk it.

Just like Activision with Call of Duty and look where they are now. Infinite Warfare is the Federation Force of Call of Duty, making fans aware that they truly jumped the shark.

I guess Black Ops 3 will truly be the last game from them I'll ever play.