Social Swamp's Social Thread 3 - And now, the end is near, and so I face the final curtain...

[epicmartin7]

This should've been the actual Pokemon Sun and Moon trailer...

 

[Aetheri]

.@Pokemon has been around in Canada since 1998! Which Pokemon do you think is the most Canadian? #PokemonSunMoon pic.twitter.com/yfC0HHisF1

— Canada (@Canada) May 10, 2016

Wait, wut?

It's interesting a whole country's Twitter is getting in the Pokémon hype but... wut?

I think its fairly obvious that Bibarel is the most Canadian seeing as its a frikking Beaver, our national animal...

Don't us Canadians feel special with our tree gnawing dam building rodents while the Americans have a gawddam majestic bird of prey as their animal...(was almost a Turkey though )

 

[Coricus]

I was about to give my waitress a good tip. Then they mocked me to another waitress for not doing the math with a calculator.

...

Monetary Darwin Award, thy name is waitress.

Also don't they have better things to do than insulting their patrons?

I think its fairly obvious that Bibarel is the most Canadian seeing as its a frikking Beaver, our national animal...

Don't us Canadians feel special with our tree gnawing dam building rodents while the Americans have a gawddam majestic bird of prey as their animal...(was almost a Turkey though )

If it makes you feel any better, the eagle sound effect is a sham. They use Red-Tailed Hawks for that stuff.

Here, bask in the wheezing seagull noises.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Okay.

Caught up in Rowlet hype.

 

[Bananija]

If I had to speculate, I would say the bat thing is either ghost or dark (maybe both) because of it's skeletal part. Might as well had flying, dragon or psychic.

As for the lion, I think fire is pretty safe to say, maybe fairy or psychic too.

Btw my favorite starter is Rowlet and my favorite legendary is the moon one.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

I do think Rowlet is probably the best of the beginning 3 forms, it's just that I trust that Litten's final form is going to be better

And you spend the most levels with the final form

 

[Chrono.]

I wonder who's middle form will be the breakout like Braixen ended up being.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Fire/Electric would seem a decent typing for Solgaleo...I do keep getting an Arceus vibe...if Arceus were a badass sun lion that is...

I'm hoping for a Dark/Fairy typing for Lunaala though...seems fitting and those two typings seem the most associated with the moon...

My thoughts for the Water/Ice-type combo for the Moon version mascot basically references how outer space is frigid, and certain planets can contain water particles as well.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Lunaala reminded me of something but I couldn't remember what. Then it hit me

Mother ****ering motorcycle bats

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGlf-D0Gf6Q

Oh wow! There is digimon hack of pokemon fire red!

 

[AreJay25]

Rowlet's final evolution is gonna end up being the Delphox of this game.

Just watch.

 

[Aetheri]

Monetary Darwin Award, thy name is waitress.

Also don't they have better things to do than insulting their patrons?


If it makes you feel any better, the eagle sound effect is a sham. They use Red-Tailed Hawks for that stuff.

Here, bask in the wheezing seagull noises.

Yeah I knew that...do you know what sound beavers are known for?

Slapping their flattened tails on the water surface when dangers near...not quite so exquisite itself...

 

[Retroend]

Oh yeah the mascots!

After rewatching the trailer, both legends have a cosmic feel to them.

I'm thinking psychic/fire

and Dark/psychic

i think they would be fire/psychic and fairy/flying.

 

[Chrono.]

Lunaala reminded me of something but I couldn't remember what. Then it hit me

Mother ****ering motorcycle bats

Reminded me more of something straight outta NiGHTS.

 

[Deleted member]

I want us to get a "cute" final evo for one of the starters, Iike, when did we ever get one of those? Braixen was a step in the right direction but Delphox is... you know it...
Also, I wonder if Pokemon Amie is coming back
That EV training minigame can die but I wanna pet Popplio

 

[Aetheri]

My thoughts for the Water/Ice-type combo for the Moon version mascot basically references how outer space is frigid, and certain planets can contain water particles as well.

Yeah I get it...I would associate the moon with water moreso because of how it effects the ocean's tides rather than 'water in space'...

 

[Solfiner]

Gonna list some of my observations of the trailers:

Spoiler: Long post

So first of all, this is the map of the region:

Note that this building from the concept art is nowhere to be seen however, so there is clearly a lot more to Alola then we've seen.

All Pokémon have little idle animations now!

I love the models that they made in gen 6, but they were always way too motionless. Glad they are fixing that now though.


Another thing they are touching up are the battle animations!

Water gun now vs then.

I'm really happy about this one, because battle animations in gen 6 were really hit or miss for me personally.


Another thing they've added is the trainer behind your Pokémon! I've been wanting this feature since I was a kid, just to make the battles feel more involved.

Now THIS is how you do a big city in 3D Gamefreak, nice to see they didn't go with Lumiose 2.0.

Also, everyone has a full body model finally! No more generic artwork for the Gym leaders and Elite 4/Champion.

I can also point out that these games look gorgeous. Best looking 3DS game? Best looking 3DS game.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camazotz
The Camazotz is the Mayan bat god of death which is supposed to symbolize death, night and sacrifice

 

[Pazzo.]

Gonna list some of my observations of the trailers:

Spoiler: Long post

So first of all, this is the map of the region:

Note that this building from the concept art is nowhere to be seen however, so there is clearly a lot more to Alola then we've seen.

All Pokémon have little idle animations now!

I love the models that they made in gen 6, but they were always way too motionless. Glad they are fixing that now though.


Another thing they are touching up are the battle animations!

Water gun now vs then.

I'm really happy about this one, because battle animations in gen 6 were really hit or miss for me personally.


Another thing they've added is the trainer behind your Pokémon! I've been wanting this feature since I was a kid, just to make the battles feel more involved.




Now THIS is how you do a big city in 3D Gamefreak, nice to see they didn't go with Lumiose 2.0.

Also, everyone has a full body model finally! No more generic artwork for the Gym leaders and Elite 4/Champion.

I can also point out that these games look gorgeous. Best looking 3DS game? Best looking 3DS game.

Your last observation reminds me of the comparisons between Super Mario Bros. and Kirby's Adventure for the NES.

While both for the same console, Kirby looks leagues better than Mario. That's because Kirby was released late in the console's lifecycle, so the programmers had more experience with it. I think the same is happening here.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Remember the guy who said that Barret was racist?

Well, we talked again.

We talked a bit about Persona for a bit.

He said I don't appreciate the subtleties of writing...

I'm not the best writer myself but **** off dude.

 

[Opossum]

That EV training minigame can die

Whoa whoa easy there, Satan.

That minigame's the only reason I can do competitive Pokemon now.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Your last observation reminds me of the comparisons between Super Mario Bros. and Kirby's Adventure for the NES.

While both for the same console, Kirby looks leagues better than Mario. That's because Kirby was released late in the console's lifecycle, so the programmers had more experience with it. I think the same is happening here.

You want to talk about good looking late console releases, Little Samson all the way

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Whoa whoa easy there, Satan.

That minigame's the only reason I can do competitive Pokemon now.

HORDE EV TRAINING IS BETTER! It gets the job done faster, isn't obnoxious for lefties, and Pokerus doubles it. Stupidly good

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

HORDE EV TRAINING IS BETTER! It gets the job done faster, isn't obnoxious for lefties, and Pokerus doubles it. Stupidly good

I find horde more annoying

1) You have to have a move that hits all opponents. Which I rarely have except surf

2) You run into a bunch of random other things as well

I rarely run into hordes anyway

 

[Opossum]

HORDE EV TRAINING IS BETTER! It gets the job done faster, isn't obnoxious for lefties, and Pokerus doubles it. Stupidly good

Didn't want to rely on that in case hordes don't return in future generations, haha. Plus I like the minigame aspect more than grinding.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I find horde more annoying

1) You have to have a move that hits all opponents. Which I rarely have except surf

2) You run into a bunch of random other things as well

I rarely run into hordes anyway

If you don't run Earthquake on a single pokemon, you have failed as a casual AND a competitive fan, not to mention there's a guide which shows how ridiculously easy it can be

Didn't want to rely on that in case hordes don't return in future generations, haha. Plus I like the minigame aspect more than grinding.

I'll grant you that, but I honestly recommend Horde training, it takes like 30 minutes and you've got potentially 6 pokemon maxed out, whereas Super Training takes an hour per pokemon. Like the music though

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

If you don't run Earthquake on a single pokemon, you have failed as a casual AND a competitive fan, not to mention there's a guide which shows how ridiculously easy it can be

I'll grant you that, but I honestly recommend Horde training, it takes like 30 minutes and you've got potentially 6 pokemon maxed out, whereas Super Training takes an hour per pokemon. Like the music though

I forgot about Earthquake. Although Earthquake is usually later in the game to find.

How often are you raising 6 pokemon that require the exact same stat boosted?

 

[DoodleDuck97]

Rowlet's final evolution is gonna end up being the Delphox of this game.

Just watch.

I hope not, I need something to team up with my already awesome Ground starters.

The two of which I had no idea where going to be Ground types when I bought the games.
Maybe it's why Ground is my favourite type of Pokémon, Flygon and Camerupt being two other ground types who have been on my team.
Mind you if Rowlet somehow becomes that "bad" (Hopes it's got a cool design atleast)
We always have the Tree Pokémon Grass/flying type.

Now I await Fan-art of Rowlet sitting on Tropius' Neck.

 

[Solfiner]

Your last observation reminds me of the comparisons between Super Mario Bros. and Kirby's Adventure for the NES.

While both for the same console, Kirby looks leagues better than Mario. That's because Kirby was released late in the console's lifecycle, so the programmers had more experience with it. I think the same is happening here.

Oh yeah definitely. The year long break really benefited Sun/Moon.

 

[Ivander]

I want us to get a "cute" final evo for one of the starters, Iike, when did we ever get one of those? Braixen was a step in the right direction but Delphox is... you know it...
Also, I wonder if Pokemon Amie is coming back
That EV training minigame can die but I wanna pet Popplio

Meganium?
Also, I don't see a problem with Delphox. It's just more that people were expecting Delphox to be more like Braixen, rather than go full mage. Also, the long coat looks unnatural compared to Greninja's and Chesnaught's add-on outfits.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I forgot about Earthquake. Although Earthquake is usually later in the game to find.

How often are you raising 6 pokemon that require the exact same stat boosted?

That's why competitive stuff should always be done post game
Very rarely, but I recommend looking at a bunch of Pokemon you want to use competitively. It's highly plausible you'd get at least 3 that have the same recommended EV training, so it's good to get it sorted out

 

[Burruni]

Man.
Grand problem of "standard" JRPGs.
If someone ain't a party member or craft your vessels, they're either only gonna be relevant while doing the quests in a town.
Or they're a villain.

 

[Z25]

i think they would be fire/psychic and fairy/flying.

I could see these as well. there are a lot of potential typings for these mons.

Gonna list some of my observations of the trailers:

Spoiler: Long post

So first of all, this is the map of the region:

Note that this building from the concept art is nowhere to be seen however, so there is clearly a lot more to Alola then we've seen.

All Pokémon have little idle animations now!

I love the models that they made in gen 6, but they were always way too motionless. Glad they are fixing that now though.


Another thing they are touching up are the battle animations!

Water gun now vs then.

I'm really happy about this one, because battle animations in gen 6 were really hit or miss for me personally.


Another thing they've added is the trainer behind your Pokémon! I've been wanting this feature since I was a kid, just to make the battles feel more involved.




Now THIS is how you do a big city in 3D Gamefreak, nice to see they didn't go with Lumiose 2.0.

Also, everyone has a full body model finally! No more generic artwork for the Gym leaders and Elite 4/Champion.

I can also point out that these games look gorgeous. Best looking 3DS game? Best looking 3DS game.

Your last observation reminds me of the comparisons between Super Mario Bros. and Kirby's Adventure for the NES.

While both for the same console, Kirby looks leagues better than Mario. That's because Kirby was released late in the console's lifecycle, so the programmers had more experience with it. I think the same is happening here.

These are great observations! The concept art alone confirms multiple islands as none of the structures in it are seen on this island.

Whoa whoa easy there, Satan.

That minigame's the only reason I can do competitive Pokemon now.

Literally this! I would only raise competitive gen 6 pokemon if the removed the minigame.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Well, with the minigame you can EV train your starter at the very beginning of the game. Even if he doesn't have the best IV's he'll have a clear advantage

And have a way of resetting their EV's if you want to change it

 

[IceBreakerXY]

Litten is the best starter.It looks so cute and bad ass money on fire/Dark.But guys disney infinity is dead with no gravity falls or kim possible set

 

[Z25]

Litten is the best starter.It looks so cute and bad *** money on fire/Dark.But guys disney infinity is dead with no gravity falls or kim possible set

The fact that both of these will never come to fruition saddens me. I don't own or play DI, but those were two classics that I thought would be great to see as figures. Especially since it would be merchandise for both, which do not really have any.

KI stopped airing years ago, so it made sense, but this would have been a great leap forward in Gravity Falls products.

Shame that they won't happen now

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

It would have been cool to get Power Ranger's figures if DI was years ago

 

[Ura]

http://www.nintendo-insider.com/2016/05/nintendo-schedule-e3-2016-business-presentation/

Funny how this completely fell off the radar for most people. Nintendo is going to have a business presentation for investors which goes through titles all the way through Holiday 2016 meaning there's going to be no mention of the NX. I think this is where they're going to reveal the rest of the 3DS lineup that was leaked back in February and go over any other titles this year that we don't know about. Methinks this is where we'll first hear about Codename N-Stars.

 

[Z25]

http://www.nintendo-insider.com/2016/05/nintendo-schedule-e3-2016-business-presentation/

Funny how this completely fell off the radar for most people. Nintendo is going to have a business presentation for investors which goes through titles all the way through Holiday 2016 meaning there's going to be no mention of the NX. I think this is where they're going to reveal the rest of the 3DS lineup that was leaked back in February and go over any other titles this year that we don't know about. Methinks this is where we'll first hear about Codename N-Stars.

Interesting... I definitely think that, this is where N Stars will appear as well.


Now a side note:

In sun and moon the rival shown is not the main one.

He has the starter weak to yours. Which means there is another rival who takes the other one that's strong against yours. I think they come into play later though as there seems to be no sign of them.

 

[Tree Gelbman]

Litten....