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Social Swamp's Social Thread 3 - And now, the end is near, and so I face the final curtain...

Should we add a poll to the thread?


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Which one could arguably be worse?
64 is good.
Gamecube and GBA were godly.
And I thought the 3DS title was ok.
Exactly. Power Tennis and the Game Boy ones were indeed Mario Tennis at its best. Open was definitely OK while Ultra Smash was just a forced rushed game released for the holidays with just a Mega Mushroom as the main gimmick.

Maybe it's nostalgia getting to me, but I sure didn't find any enjoyably out of that game at all. Still better than Amiibo Festival.
 

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I apologize, I went really overboard on that, especially before I deleted the especially dumb half. :urg:


I'm just tired of the circle of people expecting things they can't be promised, having the rug taken out from under them because they got their hopes up too high, and then doing a 180 and expecting the worst before proceeding to expect too much out of something else.

It feels like there's a lot of anger and sadness from Nintendo fans lately and I'd rather avoid it coming from a Ridley-type misunderstanding.

I don't like seeing people feel upset, it makes me sad. And when I get too sad to handle it too often, my default response is to start getting angry. I need to start calming down and trying to be nicer, but at the same time I don't want to just pull back while everyone dooms and glooms until having any kind of silver lining to a situation is the exception rather than the rule, and I'm worried that everything surrounding the NX is going to keep spiraling into those kinds of situations.
As a Nintendo, I think I'm kinda used to disappointment at this point...

I want to be excited to see what they could possibly announce, hope to hell they show off a new game that'll hype me up (like for a New Metroid), or perhaps be introduced to something that I'll maybe want to try out in the future (much like Xenoblade X did)...

Or throw something at me that'll completely catch me by surprise that will send my hype levels over 9000!:4cloud:
(Or something that'll make me salty AF:4corrin:)

of course I'd rather as little of the latter but I'm sure you get my point...you never know what will happen during one of these presentations...
 

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Exactly. Power Tennis and the Game Boy ones were indeed Mario Tennis at its best. Open was definitely OK while Ultra Smash was just a forced rushed game released for the holidays with just a Mega Mushroom as the main gimmick.

Maybe it's nostalgia getting to me, but I sure didn't find any enjoyably out of that game at all. Still better than Amiibo Festival.
The question was why did you say "ONE OF" the worst
 

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Lol, we all went from praising inafune to losing respect

But, at the same time.

Shantae still isn't released...
 

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The question was why did you say "ONE OF" the worst
Fine, I found both Open and Ultra Smash boring. It's just that there haven't been anything that truly made a Mario Tennis game fun lately or they lack sustainable content. That's why I've been pretty jaded and critical of non-Mario Kart spinoffs lately. Overall, the Wii U was a emotional roller coaster ride of some good games and several disappointing spinoffs. Nothing needs to be said about what's wrong with Mario Party games today.
 

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Most of the villains in MCU were pretty dull, average or bad in most cases.

Aside from Loki and Red Skull, most of the villains aren't as good or interesting enough for people to give a damn.


It's why people are begging Fox give the rights of Dr. Doom and Magneto since they are the most popular Marvel villains

It helps as well since they have Spider-Man in the MCU so we'll have access to Norman Osborn/Green Goblin, Doc Ock and Venom
Except the tv show and Netflix villains. :p
Even if Kilgrave and Grant Ward are dead now. They got some of the most compelling villain arcs, and hey. Kingpin's still probably the MCU's best villain, and he's still alive and kicking.
I know, I'm only disappointed because I went in expecting him to :ohwell:

Also, is Chris Evans filming for only one part of IW (part 1)? If he is, I fully expect him to die in that one :p
IIRC, he's filming both parts. :p
 

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Spiderman fought Doctor Doom quite a bit

Maybe they should bring him in as a spiderman villain if a Fantastic 4 movie isn't going to work
 

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I should probably balance my attitude out better in the future if I can remember to, today I think I acted far too abrasive. . .

That said, since we're still on the topic of losing faith in Inafune, I'd like to bring back up a little tidbit about my past and present opinions, not because I'm salty but because I partially find it hilarious and partially feel proud of myself for it:

I distrusted Inafune before it was cool.

More specifically, I was mostly neutral about his saying he was leaving evil, oppressive Capcom to make better games than they ever could before I had any idea what those games would be. Mildly skeptical perhaps, but nothing really major either way.

Then there was the Nintendo Direct with Bugs Versus Tanks! in it.

That killed it.

He declared he would make better games than Capcom would let him, and then he made such an obvious piece of shovelware that any goodwill I could have had for him was gone. From that day onwards, I had little to no faith in Inafune. And it reaaallly doesn't help anything that the main marketing for the game was just plastering his name all over the advertising. If the biggest thing a game has going for it is who worked on it, it makes it even more glaringly obvious that it sucks.

And what does Inafune think to do when that predictably doesn't go well? Oh, he just goes and makes an exact copy of his old series with the serial numbers filed off! Same characters with same roles, same gameplay, new names and designs! Anyone else does that, it's a shoddy knockoff. Old creator does that? True successor! And because everyone was in full Henny Penny mode at the time, they went for it, because Inafune is the savior that will rescue us from the evil, evil Capcom that will never make a Mega Man game again!

Of course, no one could ever believe an opinion like mine at the time, that Mega Man wasn't dead and that Inafune was actually kind of terrible on his own and was just cashing in on paranoia.

Then the delays started. And kept going. And kept going.

Suddenly, I wasn't the only one who though Inafune was full of it anymore.

And you know what?

GOOD!

I hate being in the minority all the time, but I also hate conforming to fit everyone else's standards. Let things shift in favor of my opinion! Sure people were fine with the idea of his making a knock off of his own game and were paranoid about Mega Man being dead even to the point that Beck was considered the successor to Mega Man, and that likely still hasn't changed for many. But I knew something was up all the way back with that first questionable game, and now people are finally starting to realize this guy isn't as good at his job as they expected.

*EDIT* Heck, Inafune wasn't even the creator of Mega Man, he was just one of the major guys there to the point that he became a Sakurai/Miyamoto type figure.

. . .Yeaaaah, I still need to cool my jets a bit. A lot. But at least I can wear myself out on an Acceptable Target now or something. . .

And if it was just Mighty Number 9, I probably would have disapproved but not been quite as harsh. Hopefully. I mean, at least then I could have assumed that was what he left the company to do instead of it being a cash-in. I was just a lot less willing to give him the benefit of the doubt after, you know, tiny shrunken WWII tanks. . .against bugs. . .
 
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I should probably balance my attitude out better in the future if I can remember to, today I think I acted far too abrasive. . .

That said, since we're still on the topic of losing faith in Inafune, I'd like to bring back up a little tidbit about my past and present opinions, not because I'm salty but because I partially find it hilarious and partially feel proud of myself for it:

I distrusted Inafune before it was cool.

More specifically, I was mostly neutral about his saying he was leaving evil, oppressive Capcom to make better games than they ever could before I had any idea what those games would be. Mildly skeptical perhaps, but nothing really major either way.

Then there was the Nintendo Direct with Bugs Versus Tanks! in it.

That killed it.

He declared he would make better games that Capcom would let him, and then he made such an obvious piece of shovelware that any goodwill I could have had for him was gone. From that day onwards, I had little to no faith in Inafune. And it reaaallly doesn't help anything that the main marketing for the game was just plastering his name all over the advertising. If the biggest thing a game has going for it is who worked on it, it makes it even more glaringly obvious that it sucks.

And what does Inafune think to do when that predictably doesn't go well? Oh, he just goes and makes an exact copy of his old series with the serial numbers filed off! Same characters with same roles, same gameplay, new names and designs! Anyone else does that, it's a shoddy knockoff. Old creator does that? True successor! And because everyone was in full Henny Penny mode at the time, they went for it, because Inafune is the savior that will rescue us from the evil, evil Capcom that will never make a Mega Man game again!

Of course, no one could ever believe an opinion like mine at the time, that Mega Man wasn't dead and that Inafune was actually kind of terrible on his own and was just cashing in on paranoia.

Then the delays started. And kept going. And kept going.

Suddenly, I wasn't the only one who though Inafune was full of it anymore.

And you know what?

GOOD!

I hate being in the minority all the time, but I also hate conforming to fit everyone else's standards. Let things shift in favor of my opinion! Sure people were fine with the idea of his making a knock off of his own game and were paranoid about Mega Man being dead even to the point that Beck was considered the successor to Mega Man, and that likely still hasn't changed for many. But I knew something was up all the way back with that first questionable game, and now people are finally starting to realize this guy isn't as good at his job as they expected.

*EDIT* Heck, Inafune wasn't even the creator of Mega Man, he was just one of the major guys there to the point that he became a Sakurai/Miyamoto type figure.

. . .Yeaaaah, I still need to cool my jets a bit. A lot. But at least I can wear myself out on an Acceptable Target now or something. . .

And if it was just Mighty Number 9, I probably would have disapproved but not been quite as harsh. Hopefully. I was just a lot less willing to give him the benefit of the doubt after, you know, tiny shrunken WWII tanks. . .against bugs. . .
OMG I just looked up Bugs vs Tanks and you play as Nazis!

Wow, a game where Nazi's are the good guys
 

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Seems R&C's movie isn't doing so hot.



I don't hang here as much so I'm probably late on this lol

Still, I'm slightly surprised. Despite it being a video game movie this one really looked like it'd be "the one".
 

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So, the wiser thing to do is not give ANY release date?
Yes. HGH didn't have an exact month shown, so that means fans will be anticipated the whole year. MN9 kept saying "We'll release it in April", so fans were excited! Then around March "loldelay". Think of what happened with the Wii U version of Rayman Legends but over and over again
 

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>Goes on Steam to grab some Classic Sonic games
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"Wait wat...."
>Shantae too
"Steam plz"
 
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Seems R&C's movie isn't doing so hot.



I don't hang here as much so I'm probably late on this lol

Still, I'm slightly surprised. Despite it being a video game movie this one really looked like it'd be "the one".
To be fair, the movie was produced by Rainmaker Studios. Creators of the hit classic Barbie: The Princess and the Popstar and Escape from Planet Earth. But really, they're only claim to fame is ReBoot. I'm not gonna lie, I was hopeful but when you're a studio who's made a ton of Barbie movies and Tony Hawk Boom Boom Sabotage I can't say I'll be surprised if it fails. I am surprised that it failed this hard however, especially when I'm told the game is real good.

On the bright side, that means I can cross the Sly Cooper movie off my list considering it's the same studio. Maybe that Sonic movie won't bomb too hard.
 

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To be fair, the movie was produced by Rainmaker Studios. Creators of the hit classic Barbie: The Princess and the Popstar and Escape from Planet Earth. But really, they're only claim to fame is ReBoot. I'm not gonna lie, I was hopeful but when you're a studio who's made a ton of Barbie movies and Tony Hawk Boom Boom Sabotage I can't say I'll be surprised if it fails. I am surprised that it failed this hard however, especially when I'm told the game is real good.

On the bright side, that means I can cross the Sly Cooper movie off my list considering it's the same studio. Maybe that Sonic movie won't bomb too hard.
REALLY? I was just saying in another thread how much it reminded me of "Escape from Planet Earth"

It's really made by the same people?

That movie was horrible
 

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REALLY? I was just saying in another thread how much it reminded me of "Escape from Planet Earth"

It's really made by the same people?

That movie was horrible
Yup. Just check their website http://www.rainmaker.com/

I don't know why Sony went to them for it (assuming it's not the other way around), hell I'm not even sure why Sony didn't make it themselves. They have their own animation studio and they actually released decent films. Open Season, Surf's Up, Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs, those were good films. Sure they also made Smurfs, and Smurfs 2, and they're making Emoji movie (Lego movie rip-off), but It's clear they have the capabilities for a good film, vs Rainmaker who's only worthwhile project was ReBoot.
 

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Yup. Just check their website http://www.rainmaker.com/

I don't know why Sony went to them for it (assuming it's not the other way around), hell I'm not even sure why Sony didn't make it themselves. They have their own animation studio and they actually released decent films. Open Season, Surf's Up, Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs, those were good films. Sure they also made Smurfs, and Smurfs 2, and they're making Emoji movie (Lego movie rip-off), but It's clear they have the capabilities for a good film, vs Rainmaker who's only worthwhile project was ReBoot.
Beast Wars was pretty good
 

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I had a feeling the Ratchet & Clank movie wouldn't be good. I had more faith in Angry Birds being good then I did R&C.
 
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So I was going back through my tweets I missed today after school and I noticed this:
There was a problem fetching the tweet

I have to wonder whether she means superior as in just some graphical and framerate upgrades or if we are getting brand new content just for the NX version.
 

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So I was going back through my tweets I missed today after school and I noticed this:
There was a problem fetching the tweet

I have to wonder whether she means superior as in just some graphical and framerate upgrades or if we are getting brand new content just for the NX version.
Wii got a metroid game

...

Was it worth it?

Edit: Well, I guess prime 3 was on it too...
 
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So I was going back through my tweets I missed today after school and I noticed this:
There was a problem fetching the tweet

I have to wonder whether she means superior as in just some graphical and framerate upgrades or if we are getting brand new content just for the NX version.
We still listen to her?
 

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So I was going back through my tweets I missed today after school and I noticed this:
There was a problem fetching the tweet

I have to wonder whether she means superior as in just some graphical and framerate upgrades or if we are getting brand new content just for the NX version.
Graphical updates would be pretty neat-o tbh.

Honestly if Smash Wii U port is happening, I just hope we get all the 3DS stages, better single player content, and a ranked online mode.

Oh, and give me non **** menus please. I'm still baffled that Smash Tour is on the front page and everything else is hidden away in "Games and More". I'm also trying to understand why there's a separate menu for two players when Brawl did it simply by asking the second player to press start.

edit: Oh, and more intuitive training mode. Playing Pokken taught me that Nintendo fighting games don't have to suffer from terribad training modes
 
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im gonna go out on a limb and guess nx wont have to abide by the wiiu and 3ds rule of no exclusive characters
also gonna go out on a limb and guess that we wont see any cuts(no duh but some people are really petty)
 

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If Smash Wii U is to be ported to NX, I wouldn't expect much more than enhanced graphics and/or performance.

Perhaps, some stages may be added to 8P Smash or stages that have hazards removed may not have them removed and such.

And maybe some 3DS stages might be ported as well. The best outcome would be all stages except for Golden Plains and Pac-Maze as those take advantage of how each player has their own screen and that experience couldn't be quite replicated on a home console. All other 3DS stages would work just fine on a home console.

Who wouldn't want HD versions of Gerudo Valley, Rainbow Road or Magicant?
 

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If Smash Wii U is to be ported to NX, I wouldn't expect much more than enhanced graphics and/or performance.

Perhaps, some stages may be added to 8P Smash or stages that have hazards removed may not have them removed and such.

And maybe some 3DS stages might be ported as well. The best outcome would be all stages except for Golden Plains and Pac-Maze as those take advantage of how each player has their own screen and that experience couldn't be quite replicated on a home console. All other 3DS stages would work just fine on a home console.

Who wouldn't want HD versions of Gerudo Valley, Rainbow Road or Magicant?
I would very much like an HD version of Magicant

I still can't believe the stage I predicted in the Brawl days actually made it to Smash 3DS
 

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Didn't Emily say NX would be out this year?

Or did I imagine that?
 

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I don't want a Smash NX anywhere near the NX's launch. It would very much look like cash grab.

Wait a year or so. Add some stuff. Make it its own version, not just a port.

:231:
 

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But this is Wii U tho?


I don't recall her saying that tbh.
I was just saying is it worth it for a system to have a metroid game, but that game being other M than having no metroid game

I forgot about Prime 3 though, though it was on the gamecube like the other primes
 
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Alright, let's see:
[X]Argument for the sake of argument
[X]StrawPoll
[X]GiIva Sunner
[X]Smash NX rumors
[X]Mighty No.9 delayed
[X]Swamp

I see we've already checked out everything this week, good work everyone!
Zelda Wii U will come out before Mighty No.9 at this point
 

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So, I find it interesting how in Hyrule Warriors, Sheik, Ganondorf and Toon Link have some influence from Smash Bros. in their movesets. (Note that I use Zelda-style controls, where B is the normal attack button and Y is for strong attacks and combo finishers).

Sheik's complete combo with B has her use a breakdancing-like move similar to her down Smash. Her weak point attack is similar to her jab combo. She also throws kunai similar to how she throws needles in Smash in some of her moves.

Ganondorf has the Warlock Punch as it appears in Brawl onward in his Bx4 -> Y combo, using it to shatter a magic ball into smaller ones. (And if you look closely, it's actually a reverse Warlock Punch. He turns back on the ball right after dropping it and only then the punching animation starts as he turns around again to punch it.)

Toon Link's weak point attack is very reminiscent of his down taunt from Smash, with him swinging the sword wildly before growing tired.
 
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