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Social Swamp's Social Thread 3 - And now, the end is near, and so I face the final curtain...

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ChikoLad

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I won't get too much into the Autism topic since this seems like it's not the best place.

But for the entire months of January and February this year, I actually was working at a special needs school. Kids ranged anywhere from 4-18 years old. Autism was the most common disability shared among them. There are about 80 students in the school, and I worked with the majority of them. After my initial run in the school, I served as a bus escort too. After finishing that I'm currently unemployed again, as of about two weeks ago.

With that out of the way, I'm going to tell it straight.

If there was a cure for autism, it should be developed and spread. It is indeed a mental disability by dictionary definition. While those with minor autism really don't need it cured as it doesn't have nearly as noticeable an effect, those with moderate and severe autism really could use a cure. Not even just for themselves, but for their families and friends too.

I don't say it should be cured because I hated the kids I worked with. Completely the opposite. I adored them all. But I saw the difficulties it caused them.

As an example of a child whose autism effected them greatly, there was a girl in the senior class. I believe she was about 16, and she was actually American too, funnily enough. She had a fairly severe case of autism. She had huge social anxiety and low self-esteem, to the point where socialising could legitimately tire her out and give her headaches. It didn't help that she was quite overweight, so to her, taking 2,000 steps in a day was a huge accomplishment. It was very easy for her to become emotionally deflated or scared. Sometimes she'd lose all work ethic out of the blue. However, she was indeed very intelligent. You ask her a simple question, like when a certain historical event happened, and she wouldn't just give you the year. She'd give you the exact date, an estimated time of day, and some details about the event you probably forgot yourself. She was like a walking encyclopedia. And when describing colours, she was extremely particular. Most people only really refer to things by basic colours in casual conversation, like blue, red, brown, etc. Not her though. She'd give you the exact colour. I particularly remember one of my first days with her, when I was helping her out to her bus. I asked her which bus was hers, between a white one and a "brown" one. She replied "the maroon one".

She was also a Nintendo fan actually. She talked to me about how much she loved Twilight Princess a lot on the Wii, and how she was looking forward to the HD remake. She said she had Smash and Mario Kart, and even some amiibo. I showed her my collection and she was gobsmacked by it, haha.

I'm sort of getting off track, but the point is, she has severe autism. It causes her severe problems that, in a lot of environments, would cause her a lot of trouble and stress. However, she's still a beautiful person. And it's a shame that this disability holds her back. And she seems to wish she wasn't like that.

Another example, this time geared towards how autism effects the families and friends of those who have it. This boy was about 6 years old. Again, a severe case. He actually couldn't form sentences at all. I was mostly a bus escort on this guy's bus, but I saw him a bit in the school too. Essentially, this kid was a ticking time bomb. It was very hard to "figure him out" or notice any distinct patterns in his behaviour (a common trait among those with severe autism). He essentially was mostly just left to his own devices, because you try to make him do anything and if he decided at any point he didn't want to, then he has an aggressive outburst. He had a really powerful grip and essentially would try to claw into your skin, and hit you and kick you at the same time. If you need a visualisation...

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It had kinda healed up by the time I took these photos, as this was after I got home, but he essentially tore up my hands, especially my left thumb. I have dermatitis on my hands, so that's especially easy to do. My hands ended up covered in blood and some of it even got on the seats. And I do still have the scars. This happened because he likes to take off his shoes and socks on the bus, but I have to put them back on before he gets off. This was an easy process for a while. But he eventually just started doing stuff like this out of nowhere. His mother also told me she frequently had trouble get him dressed in the morning.

That's just a sample of the many problems this kid caused for people.

This post is getting long and I'm up way later than I should be. But let me just say, the best way I can describe my feelings on autism, is by comparing it to cancer - people who have cancer do not disgust me in the slightest, and obviously have my utmost sympathy. And if they are able to live happily in spite of it, until their last breath, then that's something they should be proud of. However, cancer itself disgusts me, and I'd cure it if I had the power to. It takes lives prematurely. It ruins the lives of family and friends. Nobody would ever say they are proud to have cancer. It's an obstacle, one that's nigh impassable.

Now, autism is obviously not quite that extreme. It doesn't inherently kill people or anything like that. But it does compromise plenty of people in ways that can be quite depressing indeed. If you are able to live happily in spite of it, then that's awesome, and you have my utmost respect. However, autism is something I can't reasonably understand being proud of having. Be proud of being able to overcome it and control it. But don't say you are proud to have it.

Also if you're reading this and you have a mild case of it, then none of this should really effect you. I have met people with mild cases too. Two of the lads in the senior class have a mild case of it, and I honestly could not tell they were students. I thought they were SNAs, like me. So what I say here does not apply as strongly to those with a mild case of it.
 

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Actually since it's relevant I figured I'd mention it.

Over the summer I volunteer for two weeks at a summer camp run by a not-awful organization (The Autism Project, shameless plug) and I experience a lot of different cases. It's fun and I feel gratification from the responsibility. The variety of different kids and their behavior sort of gets me thinking though.

It made me think about how I'm actually interested in the field of social work but I really doubt I'd do it as a career path. If I were to work 1-on-1 with a higher-functioning child I'd be able to handle it well, and I feel I could relate to the kid well (I'm actually good with kids, but kids are pretty stressful). Like it's been said previously in the thread, handling lower-functioning/dependent kids is very difficult (the second week is all lower-functioning autistic people). I wouldn't mind doing it all that much but it is extremely stressful and I'm not great at handling outbursts in general.

Actually now I'm thinking about my social worker that I used to have when I was younger. I should talk to her again soon, she's really nice.

Also, as one last thing, allow me to clarify something; I'm actually pretty high functioning (I was diagnosed with Aspergers I think). My brother is also high functioning but he's less aware (we have the same IQ, actually, like 115 I think, somewhere around there).
 
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I agree with everything you've said, definitely. And I definitely would wish better for people with anything autism above very mild. I mean, I've been around severely autistic people a lot in my life, and they make me uncomfortable. It's not because I don't like them, it's simply because I feel very sad.

But I'd just like to make something clear(And this is just a general statement.), I'm not proud of my autism, not in the slightest. In fact, I wish that I was the exact person I am without being labeled as autistic. Because honestly, you wouldn't be able to tell me apart from any normal person. But I do get anxiety from autism, not directly, but because people blame every single tiny difference or flaw I have because I'm simply diagnosed with it. Even though all my scores in Intelligence and even social skills are above average according the school itself. In everything except repeating stories read to me.

I just get depressed because sometimes I get paranoid that maybe I am disabled and I'm just not sure.

Keep in mind, I was diagnosed when I was three, when my parents coudln't even get me to say "go" even though before that I was a hyper child. It's been a long way since then...
 
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The thing I'm happy that my autism has brought me is my best friends; I only met them through social groups. Other than that I'd rather not have autism but w/e.
 
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Seriously what SammyClassic says sounds like something out of Bioshocks Radio tapes.
"When will you learn, that your actions have CONSEQUENCES?!"
 

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Before you can identify "Autism" as an issue IMO, people need to acknowledge how being "on the spectrum" or being someone w/ Aspergers for example isn't the same thing.

People who can barely function? Yes. I think a cure is something that should be worked on. Of course.

But a lot of people are unfortunately lumped in this category of "on the spectrum", whether that's w/ a condition like Aspergers or not... that can make one feel lesser or dumber.

In reality being "on the spectrum" or having aspergers might actually benefit you in life. Social situations and stuff of that sort will always be a bit more difficult. But you might be able to use your quirks almost as a mini-superpower.

Source: 6 years of working w/ a friend who was diagnosed "on the spectrum"/having aspergers... after being the most social and outgoing/popular person in our High School Class.
 
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There was a report by the US government that Putin had Aspergers...

People think it might have been the US government trying to "...defame?" him

Putin didn't comment on it himself but someone from his office says the report was ridiculously stupid
 

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We're no longer Fire Emblems now, and we can't reset to this state any more. It was fun while it lasted.
Back to being Marquis d'Calibur, then. I'm quite pleased with how I've slowly grown to Battleborn and FPS games in recent years. (Though stay away, Call of Doody.) Might even do a Major assignment on the growth of FPS games.
 
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There was a report by the US government that Putin had Aspergers...

People think it might have been the US government trying to "...defame?" him

Putin didn't comment on it himself but someone from his office says the report was ridiculously stupid
Yeah, that diagnosis is total BS. Like seriously, they diagnosed him just by watching videos of him.

It's one of the many things that makes me wonder if I actually have autism. Because I'm not even sure, the only thing to suggest it is that I'm shy(When I don't know someone, but that's more of a trust issue.), I like to get physically active when I'm stressed, and well, I get stressed/depressed at times. But then I realize that plenty of normal people have these exact things too. In fact, a lot of normal people seem to have it worse than I do when it comes to these things. I guess it's because sometimes I imagine normal people as some sort of gods when I get depressed, but besides that, I can clearly see that these problems are common among normal people too.



Edit: Though at the end of the day, autism or not, I sure ain't normal. Tehehe.

Edit: *Casually starts listening to thrash metal music to pass time* Just femboy things, you know? :p
 
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I just got on Max Doods twitch Live, and began makeing ALL CAPPED paragraphs about Kazoo kid, and how awesome he is in a tryhardy way, I said that he has an awful sister named Ingrid, and a father named Urien. I also made #MadeKazookidgreatagain, and demanded to have a Kazoo Kid emote, said he is a mary sue oc that we love. After one or two hours I got banned.
 

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I just got on Max Doods twitch Live, and began makeing ALL CAPPED paragraphs about Kazoo kid, and how awesome he is in a tryhardy way, I said that he has an awful sister named Ingrid, and a father named Urien. I also made #MadeKazookidgreatagain, and demanded to have a Kazoo Kid emote, said he is a mary sue oc that we love. After one or two hours I got banned.
no offense but what did you expect?
 

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I was just watching a video on "Nintendo vs Blockbuster" and how Nintendo hated video game rentals places. And how Nintendo were unable to take them down, but things like Netflix eventually did. Kind of sucks, some of my favorite memories from video games are from rentals. Super Mario RPG is a game I didn't get to own until years after it's release (Probably not as many years as I thing) and I was only able to rent it.

It reminded me about this mom and pop video rental store had opened near my house right before netflix became popular that "specialized in DVD rentals" and how at the time I thought it was a new and unique idea, since stores like Blockbuster still primarily had VHS, although did have DVD's as well. I think they might have also had the option to buy DVD's or something...? It's kind of vague.

LOL, I remember going in the place quite a bit and liking the store. It only lasted a couple years though, I believe. I think this is when Netflix started their DVD to mail service and it actually dominated over other rental places.

In it's place is actually a multicare now.
 

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Anyone know any voice actors? :happysheep:
 

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Wow, he's actually really good.
He's "The voice of Newgrounds" ...you could say (Or at least someone posting a comment about him said). He's been in quite a few flash animations and games in the past.

I'm familiar with his work from watching Let's plays, specifically Retsupurae's "retsufrash" of Godlimations games.

He also worked with "Chip Cheezum" after his let's play of "The You Testament" where they hired him to read some stories in the life of M. Dickie.

LOL
 
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I know quite a few autistic people. They don't need to be 'cured'. Most of them can function in society just fine. Autism doesn't need a 'cure' but it needs to be worked around. Case and point, You'd only be able to tell some of my friends are autistic if they outright told you
 

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So hey, today the Pokemon Sun and Moon footage comes out right? Any idea when or where somebody could watch that?
 
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On the autism talk, I have thought that I may be on the spectrum sometimed, but I think it's just me being a little social awkward plus the fact I'm very shy and introverted. And if I was because of that and didn't know it, it's not like anything would change

I only know one person with autism, a guy that studies at my school, he's very introverted but he's a very nice person if you talk to him
He was once bullied by a guy because of it(I don't think the guy even knew he was autistic, probably just because he was "weird"), when said guy tried to beat him once, he was the one that ended up receiving the beating
He was surprisingly strong and I guess thanks to that, he never got bullied by the guy ever again :p
 

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Miitomo is surprisingly detailed. You can actually provide a pronunciation for the name you give your Mii. That's what I'm stuck on; I named them Pokechu since I h8 my real name 4reals tbh but throughout the years I've been using this name I never decided how to pronounce it. It's a c0mbination of Pokémon and Pikachu, so it should be Pokéchu but I never paid attention to the é.

If this is the thing I get stuck on, I wonder what else there will be. gg ninty :^)
 
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I like how it is basically "Build your own broken unit workshop"
Too bad there's nowhere for me to actually have a challenge with them
I wonder if this is how Saitama feels, having so much power in your hands is fun but what's the point if you don't even need to try?
 

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Story time of one HELL of a reoccuring "joke" for a company.
E3 2004.
Nippon Ichi Software, fresh off their success of Disgaea 1, announces their next big project, Makai Wars. A game to come out on the upcoming PSP console.
The game was assumed to be a sequel to their upcoming game: Makai Kingdom set to come out early 2005 on the PS2 and would have a protagonist of the name of Asagi Asagiri.
Come 2005, Makai Kingdom comes out and the developers put in a nice easter egg of sorts: Asagi herself was a secret unlockable character who basically gushed about how excited she was for her upcoming game. The protagonist "theorizes" that the game would turn our similar to a previous work of the company, Phantom Brave, in being a more serious and dramatic experience.
However, we come to 2006. Disgaea 2 comes out. Some people note that new monster kinds to the species match silhouette designs seen in the Makai Wars pamphlets given at E3 2004. A secret character is found, Asagi. Cursed by the protagonist of Makai Kingdom, she's given a... diminutive body so that she couldn't overthrow Zetta's reign as a protagonist. This was the company's way of saying that the game either was being delayed or was cancelled. In every game of the Disgaea series since, Asagi has arrived and attempted to defeat the protagonists to finally get a game for herself. With the trademark of Makai Wars getting reclaimed in 2010, people have been questioning if the game has been worked on behind the scenes.... but with each year people question if they just don't want the name to be taken.
Good luck, Asagi.
 

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"Awakening is a perfectly balanced game"

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I like how it is basically "Build your own broken unit workshop"
Too bad there's nowhere for me to actually have a challenge with them
I wonder if this is how Saitama feels, having so much power in your hands is fun but what's the point if you don't even need to try?
tbh I have like 8 completely capped units but I'm only on chapter 18 LOL
 

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"Awakening is a perfectly balanced game"

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I like how it is basically "Build your own broken unit workshop"
Too bad there's nowhere for me to actually have a challenge with them
I wonder if this is how Saitama feels, having so much power in your hands is fun but what's the point if you don't even need to try?
Go play on higher difficulties, actually don't grind, and take on Apotheosis.
Still in no way balanced well , but it definitely has a hell of a challenge if you go for it.
 
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Go play on higher difficulties, actually don't grind, and take on Apotheosis.
Still in no way balanced well , but it definitely has a hell of a challenge if you go for it.
That's not what I meant though
I like being able to grind however I want and cap stats
But I mean it has no postgame content worth of these powerful units
The closest it has is Priam's Paralogue but I beat that ages ago
And I don't have money for Apotheosis
 

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"Awakening is a perfectly balanced game"

~No one
I like how it is basically "Build your own broken unit workshop"
Too bad there's nowhere for me to actually have a challenge with them
I wonder if this is how Saitama feels, having so much power in your hands is fun but what's the point if you don't even need to try?
Yeah but that's Anna. If RNGoddess helps out then she's tied with Morgan and MU as one of the most broken unit in the game.


That's if she isn't married to you because of she is then Morgan is pretty much the God of Destruction.
 
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Yeah but that's Anna. If RNGoddess helps out then she's tied with Morgan and MU as one of the most broken unit in the game.


That's if she isn't married to you because of she is then Morgan is pretty much the God of Destruction.
I didn't use Morgan much in this playthrough(not much point either since I have 12 trained units) but redhead F!Morgan is the cutest thing
Even then, Anna isn't even my best unit
She's not Swordmaster!Olivia
 

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It's probably not Shantae, the art style is different from Half Genie Hero. It actually looks like a new IP.
Interesting. I'll keep an eye on it thne.
Guys, guys! You have to help me! For some reason, my avatar and banner didn't change back.
You saved it right? Because if so, I should have thought of this! I would have been fine with FE for awhile, if it meant I got that sweet banner.
So hey, today the Pokemon Sun and Moon footage comes out right? Any idea when or where somebody could watch that?
Tomorrow is footage day.
No it's today. It's sunday in Japan when the show airs, but saturday on the west coast.
Don't get to hopeful though as the tweet pokemon Co Jp released showed the cast members watching the intial trailer.
Granted we could still get something new, but don't expect it 100%
 

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I was just watching a video on "Nintendo vs Blockbuster" and how Nintendo hated video game rentals places. And how Nintendo were unable to take them down, but things like Netflix eventually did. Kind of sucks, some of my favorite memories from video games are from rentals. Super Mario RPG is a game I didn't get to own until years after it's release (Probably not as many years as I thing) and I was only able to rent it.

It reminded me about this mom and pop video rental store had opened near my house right before netflix became popular that "specialized in DVD rentals" and how at the time I thought it was a new and unique idea, since stores like Blockbuster still primarily had VHS, although did have DVD's as well. I think they might have also had the option to buy DVD's or something...? It's kind of vague.

LOL, I remember going in the place quite a bit and liking the store. It only lasted a couple years though, I believe. I think this is when Netflix started their DVD to mail service and it actually dominated over other rental places.

In it's place is actually a multicare now.
I feel ya man. One of the great things about the 2000's was being able to rent games and movies from Blockbuster. I remember being a kid and seeing all these great games on display for me to choose from. Like being a kid in the candy store. Would rent N64, Gamecube, and PS2 games like every week. Good times.
 
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