Social Swamp's Social Thread 3 - And now, the end is near, and so I face the final curtain...

[Guybrush20X6]

What other reason would they have for this? When Nintendo took down leaked ESRB vids, it was because it's legit.

I'd blame youtube bots but it was an article not a video. Only other thing would be if BG&E 2 is coming out but it's exclusive to something else or not exclusive at all which would be pulling doulbe duty of keeping it under wraps and avoiding fanboy rage. But trying to avoid the latter is like trying to command the tide back.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I'd blame youtube bots but it was an article not a video. Only other thing would be if BG&E 2 is coming out but it's exclusive to something else or not exclusive at all which would be pulling doulbe duty of keeping it under wraps and avoiding fanboy rage. But trying to avoid the latter is like trying to command the tide back.

This is Ewbi we're talking about. They don't care about stuff like that. Case and point, Rayman Legends suddenly getting a 6 month delay

 

[SegaNintendoUbisoft]

Jade for Smash 5 anyone?

Rayman first, then Jade.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

If this is Bayonetta 2 over again, there will be much Xbox, PS4 and PC rage I can tell you that much.

Though it'd at lest be better than Tomb Raider: The Raidening where it's wish washy exclusivity pretty much killed it.

 

[LIQUID12A]

Surprised there was no talk on Rundas...

To me the biggest point against Dark Samus was probably her lack of relevance and a foreseeable future in the series...which makes her a lower priority character overall...I really don't think the other two points mentioned are her biggest downfall...

We didn't consider Rundas significant enough to talk about. And really, every one shot in the series right now is below Sylux simply because of the latter's confirmed future.

Of course, the points regarding Dark Samus are mere speculation. We likely won't know for sure whether they hold merit...ever, really, lest Sakurai mentions Dark Samus(unlikely if you ask me).

Get your conspiracy theories ready folks.

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EDIT sourcegaming retweeted this IMMEDIATELY after I post it here lol

Snake confirmed for Smash NX!

...

*cries*

 

[Z25]

http://boards.4chan.org/vp/thread/25480811/the-leaking-game

This is an interesting topic...

One thing mentioned is a pokemon called tidalclipse which is a volcorona counter.

Interesting read, although probably fake but thought out...

 

[Cutie Gwen]

volcorona counter.

I smell a smogonite

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Opossum
A Distant Demon Z25

Could one of you post of picture of the model we have and one picture of Moth Man?

Please note designs aren't final.

 

[A Distant Demon]

Opossum
A Distant Demon Z25

Could one of you post of picture of the model we have and one picture of Moth Man?

Please note designs aren't final.

I believe you mean this?

*subject to change

Ta-da!

EDIT if you cant see Moth Man look on the next page.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Opossum
A Distant Demon Z25

Could one of you post of picture of the model we have and one picture of Moth Man?

Please note designs aren't final.

Please be like TT Killer Moth

It's not easy being a supervillain,but it's less easy being a parent

I believe you mean this?


*subject to change

Ta-da!

I can only see Medusa

 

[Swamp Sensei]

A Distant Demon use imgur for Moth Man.

 

[A Distant Demon]

Moth Man has the ability to turn invisible right?

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Medusa has a design which is rather simplistic, l'm about 55/45 on it, not shabby
Moth Man has a classy design, with a suit that looks like he belongs in a disco, I like it!

 

[Arcanir]

Oh, and this just in, Character Corner #2 is up.

@Con0rrrr, Nantendo and I talk for a straight half hour about Metroid.

Enjoy.

I agree with most of what was said here, to add my two cents on a couple of these.

Adam: Ignoring my personal bias with the character (as to be honest, I felt he was horrible in Other M), I'll say that he has potential to be a candidate, but I'm not as sure on him. Like with Sylux, it seems like they're trying to give him more of a presence in Metroid's mythos and he has the potential to appear in future games via the AI, so he's one of Metroid's most notable characters and that could be what gets him into the game. However, his popularity did take a nosedive after Other M, and Sakamoto (who was behind the character) seems less enthused about going back to Metroid at this point in time, so they may not further expand on him past Other M, and that can hurt him. So I'm less sure on his future in the franchise then I am with Sylux, as he does have more of a chance for the franchise to move away from him and that can cause him to lose his only strong point over many other characters.

Ridley, Ridley, Ridley: I don't think any other character has caused so much debate as he did. I really love him as a character and I want to see him playable (in fact, he's probably still my most wanted), but I do agree that his potential playable comes down to the two things mentioned in the video: 1) Sakurai changes his mind, or 2) He gets a more "applicable" design for Smash (or a different director, but that's an entirely new set of variables to mess around with), and that's really about it for now. I do have to disagree with the point that "if he's smaller, he's may not be Ridley" as I don't think size was what made the character. It's as aspect that gives him his presence, but he has other traits that make him who he is (such as his intelligence and cruelty), and those traits can easily be maintained and expanded on regardless of his size. So if they make a Ridley that's smaller, but keeps those elements, then I don't see a problem with the difference in size.

http://boards.4chan.org/vp/thread/25480811/the-leaking-game

This is an interesting topic...

One thing mentioned is a pokemon called tidalclipse which is a volcorona counter.

Interesting read, although probably fake but thought out...

I doubt they'd ever make an intentional counter to a Pokémon, especially one that doesn't have a powerful presence in competitive gaming as is. Even MegaKangaskhan hasn't gotten anything that curbs its usability, and that thing is still a powerful force even with the Primal trio as options.

It would be a cool idea if Volcarona did get a counterpart though.

Edit: I just realized I wrote Volcanion instead of Volcarona, whoops!

 

[Professor Lexicovermis]

Moth Man has the ability to turn invisible right?

Does he have insect-style arms in the left drawing? That would make for an interesting twist.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Does he have insect-style arms in the left drawing? That would make for an interesting twist.

He does.

And Medusa getting a small design buff is in the works. Same basic idea bit with some differences.

 

[epicmartin7]

Get your conspiracy theories ready folks.

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EDIT sourcegaming retweeted this IMMEDIATELY after I post it here lol

So... (I don't want to sound like I'm having a rude tone, just curious is all) why is this tweet kind of important at all? Is this something a Metal Gear fan only get, or is there just a secret reference in there? I'm kind of confused to be honest as to what this is lol. I guess I'm just being n00bish...

 

[Z25]

So... (I don't want to sound like I'm having a rude tone, just curious is all) why is this tweet kind of important at all? Is this something a Metal Gear fan only get, or is there just a secret reference in there? I'm kind of confused to be honest as to what this is lol. I guess I'm just being n00bish...

David Hayter voiced Snake in Smash but not the last metal gear, so it's intriguing that he's been "called back"

 

[epicmartin7]

David Hayter voiced Snake in Smash but not the last metal gear, so it's intriguing that he's been "called back"

Oh...
Well then...

Spoiler

Let the conspiracy begin...

 

[Z25]

I agree with most of what was said here, to add my two cents on a couple of these.

Adam: Ignoring my personal bias with the character (as to be honest, I felt he was horrible in Other M), I'll say that he has potential to be a candidate, but I'm not as sure on him. Like with Sylux, it seems like they're trying to give him more of a presence in Metroid's mythos and he has the potential to appear in future games via the AI, so he's one of Metroid's most notable characters and that could be what gets him into the game. However, his popularity did take a nosedive after Other M, and Sakamoto (who was behind the character) seems less enthused about going back to Metroid at this point in time, so they may not further expand on him past Other M, and that can hurt him. So I'm less sure on his future in the franchise then I am with Sylux, as he does have more of a chance for the franchise to move away from him and that can cause him to lose his only strong point over many other characters.

Ridley, Ridley, Ridley: I don't think any other character has caused so much debate as he did. I really love him as a character and I want to see him playable (in fact, he's probably still my most wanted), but I do agree that his potential playable comes down to the two things mentioned in the video: 1) Sakurai changes his mind, or 2) He gets a more "applicable" design for Smash (or a different director, but that's an entirely new set of variables to mess around with), and that's really about it for now. I do have to disagree with the point that "if he's smaller, he's may not be Ridley" as I don't think size was what made the character. It's as aspect that gives him his presence, but he has other traits that make him who he is (such as his intelligence and cruelty), and those traits can easily be maintained and expanded on regardless of his size. So if they make a Ridley that's smaller, but keeps those elements, then I don't see a problem with the difference in size.



I doubt they'd ever made an intentional counter to a Pokémon, especially one that doesn't have a presence in competitive gaming as is. Even MegaKangaskhan hasn't gotten anything that curbs its usability, and that thing is still a powerful force even with the Primal trio as options.

It would be a cool idea if Volcanion did get a counterpart though.

True, but I described as a counter because it's stated to be a version exclusive and a moon moth. Which is like a counter.

 

[Aetheri]

We didn't consider Rundas significant enough to talk about. And really, every one shot in the series right now is below Sylux simply because of the latter's confirmed future.

Of course, the points regarding Dark Samus are mere speculation. We likely won't know for sure whether they hold merit...ever, really, lest Sakurai mentions Dark Samus(unlikely if you ask me).



Snake confirmed for Smash NX!

...

*cries*

Makes sense...though along with Sylux, Rundas is one character that popped up a fair amount due to his relative popularity despite having very little screen time in Prime 3...it still would've been interesting to hear people's opinions regardless...but his small role is a big reason why not to add him especially over DS who's role was much more significant...

I know its all speculation, I just felt those points regarding DS to be rather trivial...I wouldn't think Sakurai would skip over a potentially unique character for such reasons...but then again I could be completely wrong myself and those were the exact reasons why she was rejected (which I'd be pretty mad about if they were)...it would be nice to hear his views on the character regardless...though I do believe that he has considered her at least (both in Brawl and Smash 4) but she was just low priority and there's only he can add to the game...

I do find it interesting how the Glire enemies from SSE have a very strong resemblance to concept art of her morph ball...

 

[Arcanir]

True, but I described as a counter because it's stated to be a version exclusive and a moon moth. Which is like a counter.

Ah, I thought you meant competitive counter, my mistake.

 

[Z25]

Ah, I thought you mean competitive counter, my mistake.

Ah I see. It's typing was set to be water and fairy, which would probably be a better alternative to volcorona.

Volcorona was good, but became average fast. I still love that pokemon and design though.

 

[ChikoLad]

Meme guy does it again.

 

[Luigi The President]

Saw this on 4chan
http://boards.4chan.org/vp/thread/25475331/my-uncle-masahiro-samurai-works-for-game-freak

Figured you smash fans would enjoy.

Luigi The President your favorite Atlus character is a pokemon now lol.

I ALWAYS KNEW IT WOULD HAPPEN

 

[CyberHyperPhoenix]

TIL that Ubisoft wanted that Beyond Good and Evil 2 rumour taken off Destructoid which is interesting.

 

[powerprotoman]

that moment when your really excited for pokken but none of the playable characters are in your top 300

 

[Fenriraga]

It's probably for a MGS Pachinko Machine.

I wish I could say I meant that jokingly.

 

[ChikoLad]

When starting Twilight Princess HD, I was gonna name my horse after my dog, but then I remembered Epona is a girl.

Could only think of one name to give her, of course...and now I am filled with regret due to the images this dialogue is putting into my head.

Spoiler

"Smash Bros...Smash Bros has changed..."

"NO SHE'S MAI WAIF- I mean horsie..."

I have no words for this one. Only a ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°).

I also found the origins of Yoshi's Woolly World.

And I just took a screen of this because I thought the detail was cool, and surprising that they let this in Zelda. I can't remember if he was this detailed in the original version.

 

[AreJay25]

After some digging, this is most likely what Hayter is tweeting about.

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[Oasis Dealer]

After some digging, this is most likely what Hayter is tweeting about.

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Seeing a video of the two insulting each other in their iconic roles would be a funny and nice reunion. It seems to be the most likely outcome anyway so I'll be hoping to see this happen.

 

[Coricus]

It's probably for a MGS Pachinko Machine.

I wish I could say I meant that jokingly.

Daily reminder that SEGA is also a Pachinko company, and their fandom has blamed this for many of their problems since long before Konami brought the issues of Pachinko to the forefront.

 

[Burruni]

Daily reminder that SEGA is also a Pachinko company, and their fandom has blamed this for many of their problems since long before Konami brought the issues of Pachinko to the forefront.

Reminder that SEGA hasn't publically stated that they've withdrawn from producing console games.

Edit: The big difference, I feel, is that SEGA opened up a Pachinko front of themselves and has still produced games across varying platforms... the quality of them and almost exclusively Sonic is still an issue. Konami has basically Nope'd from "traditional" gaming and took some of the best IPs gaming's had with them: Metal Gear, Castlevania, Bomberman, etc.

 

[Coricus]

Reminder that SEGA hasn't publically stated that they've withdrawn from producing console games.

Yeah, that came out worse than I was thinking. Konami is definitely being run far worse ATM.

Just find it funny that Pachinko is becoming a big joke about gaming mismanagement now when it's been something the SEGA crowd was muttering about years ago.

 

[Kingslime304]

Even though I'm gonna be a Slowpoke about this, was the Ballistican class buffed in Fates?

 

[Z25]

Well I just learneded that in Fates, Corrin can:

Spoiler: Minor Spoiler for a Side Thing

Marry his siblings.... Well that's certainly something....

 

[Burruni]

Since SEGA got brought up.
Realtalk: How excited would you be to hear that an NX launch title is....

Super Monkey Ball: Super Simian Speed (title not final).

Edit:

Even though I'm gonna be a Slowpoke about this, was the Ballistican class buffed in Fates?

They're usable, from what I've heard.
Which automatically means a buff from the rest of the series.

 

[BananaBake]

So does anyone remember early in ORAS, when you could scan QR codes and get anything in the game you wanted? I hope something like that happens to Sun/Moon

 

[ChikoLad]

RelaxAlax did a Know Your Moves on Rosalina.

Unlike most YouTuber theories on Rosalina, I overall feel fairly satisfied with this. I do have some criticisms though, mainly:

-He glossed over her moveset inspirations, making her sound way more "made up" than she actually is. Mainly, I'm surprised he didn't even mention how her normals are inspired by dolphin tricks. What's interesting about this, is that it could be tied to how she was a Water element character (and later, Water/Light) in Puzzle & Dragons: SMB Edition. Also I don't understand why he thought to correlate her Down-B to Mario's spin since, while it could draw things in, it wasn't the primary use and wasn't used much. However, one of Rosalina's signature abilities is her gravitokinesis abilities, which seemed like the obvious inspiration for her Down-B, if you ask me. One of the Custom variants even draws in opponents, which could be a reference to how she could pull Mario back to the Observatory if he jumped off it. I always saw the cursor as just a visual easter egg, not as "she's using a variant the spin move from Galaxy". It's still clear this is Rosalina using the move, as the cursor appears to come from her wand in Smash.

-He glossed over the potential reasons for her inclusion (mainly, it seemed like he really didn't want to admit that she really was the most sensible choice for a Mario newcomer from a popularity and significance/relevance standpoint). I can't blame him for this one though since she's the ONE newcomer Sakurai hasn't made an official statement on regarding her inclusion, but it's pretty easy to piece together if you know the character, mainly the reasons why she is included in OTHER games, like 3D World (since her appearing as playable in 3D World was just as big a deal, if not more so, than her being playable in Smash).

-Some of his details on her lore and history and what not are a bit sketchy.

Overall, you can definitely feel this was rushed to squeeze everything into a roughly 10-minute window, but it's still nice and it has good comedy at least (it made me happy to hear him say "she's OP in Smash because she's OP in everything else", because that's so true, haha. Well I wouldn't call Rosalina or any character broken in Smash 4, but she definitely feels so powerful, and it shows in her performance).

I wouldn't use this video as some definitive source on Rosalina's inclusion in Smash or even on the character in general, but it serves as a good jumping off point for people to get interested in the character and maybe do some more thorough research themselves. Kinda like the equivalent to Wikipedia and DYKG.

I won't get annoyed at one's like this. Sure, it's far from perfect, but I understand that, A) pretty much nobody else is willing to do near as thorough research and analysis on this character as I do, and B) he had limited amount of time to fill in the video, and he does this as a hobby too.

 

[Deleted member]

Well I just learneded that in Fates, Corrin can:

Spoiler: Minor Spoiler for a Side Thing

Marry his siblings.... Well that's certainly something....

You're a little late on that but

Spoiler: Spoiler about that spoiler

The Hoshidan siblings aren't blood related to him/her
Because IS wants to allow Corrin to marry EVERYONE without being too obvious about their pro-incest movement
You can also marry kids, two furries, your nieces and nephews(guilty) and most importantly,

Spoiler

Your blood cousin