Social Swamp's Social Thread 3 - And now, the end is near, and so I face the final curtain...

[Burruni]

Were you suspicious of the, having a paywall for free stuff?

Because of Capcom having things such as on-disc content held behind DLC paywalls, I was concerned WHAT of that content listed to not be part of the game's launch (without any real source for any/all of it not being in, as well) would end up being put as paid DLC. With recent examples from things like Evolve there seemed like a serious risk of some really underhanded strategies for DLC.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Because of Capcom having things such as on-disc content held behind DLC paywalls, I was concerned WHAT of that content listed to not be part of the game's launch (without any real source for any/all of it not being in, as well) would end up being put as paid DLC. With recent examples from things like Evolve there seemed like a serious risk of some really underhanded strategies for DLC.

Dude, we've known that literally everything will be free for months.

Like how did you miss that?

 

[Wario Bros.]

I'm no expert but is Street Fighter V better or worse compared to Killer Instinct's strategy?

 

[Deleted member]

You have a boyfriend and girlfriend?

Yes. I can't reccomend polygamy at all in most cases, but in my case it works because we all each have a bomd with eachother. It's rather neat, really.

Though my boyfriend literally has a lowerhand in the relationship due to his poor living consitions(Poor and strict family on all the wrong things.) and not having the looks like us.(Again, we grew up with money, he's insanely poor, so I can't blame him AT ALL.) Yet I love him just as much and will go out of my way to support him. I just have realistic expectations, and it won't be as easy as it is with my girlfriend.

Sorry for the mini biography. I'm just a person who loves to go into detail. This sort of thing seems crazy to most, but I believe in reaching high in life, as if you only have one chance.

 

[Burruni]

Dude, we've known that literally everything will be free for months.

Like how did you miss that?

I haven't followed the game that closely because I don't have an interest in buying it?
I didn't recall anyone in the thread bringing up "missing" features beforehand so I thought it was fairly important to bring up for anyone interested in the game in case this wasn't truly known yet.

 

[Autumn ♫]

The big thing I have against SFV is the lack of a 1P VS CPU. With a fighting game, that's one of the most essential parts.

 

[Fenriraga]

This is a pretty dumb move on Capcom's part, but I don't think this is TOO offensive.

All the stuff WILL be there eventually, and will be free with paid stuff having the POTENTIAL to be free, but as it is starting out, I don't think it's gonna be worth the full-retail-pricetag until at least summer.

Its great that they wont be pulling any "Ultra Street Fighter 5 Arcade Edition" this time, but if they had just waited a few more months to get the near-essentials in and THEN do stuff to add longetivity to the game, I feel like it'd be more respectable.

For now I think I'm gonna hold off on 5 till a bit later.

 

[AreJay25]

You guys are forgetting something important.

EVO is in a few months. As well as other big tournaments. Capcom wants Street Fighter V to become big, so they want the game to be released on time. And the actual gameplay itself is definitely finished.

Do I agree with the lack of content? No. But it's not like they're pulling a Street Fighter X Tekken where DLC is literally complete and ready to go on disc (and you STILL have to pay), or a UMVC3 where you have to pay $40 for a new version mere months later.

Again, there definitely should have been more content available (at least lower its price), but it's all free at the very least.

 

[Coricus]

I keep hearing this name being thrown around but I still have no idea who it is so I'm just gonna ask already
Who the **** is Chris-chan?

No one will be able to accurately describe what he is, honestly.

Just don't dig too far into the wiki people made about him and the Sonichu comic.

There are things the human race was not meant to see. Very, very inappropriate things.

You may say to yourself, "surely what I could encounter can't be that bad, right?"

Then you see a photo of him with his clothing off.


Just watch a review of Sonichu on YouTube where people have to censor the comic and not show the rough stuff and you'll get a vague idea.

 

[Deleted member]

Oh no! I can't believe they're releasing a game earlier that will get the rest of its content later for FREE! Such blasphemy! The gaming industry is ruined!!!

Creator of Sonichu.

That's all you need to know.

You are just making me more curious to know

 

[A Distant Demon]

I mean I WANT SFV. I won't be able to play because college and maybe my laptop can't run it but that won't stop me from complaining. Complaining is all we know.

And if I had the game I would probably still be complaining because Rashid is terrible

 

[Substitution]

Free content? Oh, we're going to get free content guys! Everything is okay!
Yeah. Free content that should've already been in the game!


I swear I feel like I'm going insane here. Why are people acting like this is completely okay?! It's not! You're the customer, we're the consumers, and we shouldn't be ratted out of anything. Let alone defend shady practices!

 

[Swamp Sensei]

I mean I WANT SFV. I won't be able to play because college and maybe my laptop can't run it but that won't stop me from complaining. Complaining is all we know.

And if I had the game I would probably still be complaining because Rashid is terrible

How is Rashid terrible?

 

[Burruni]

Oh no! I can't believe they're releasing a game earlier that will get the rest of its content later for FREE! Such blasphemy! The gaming industry is ruined!!!

You are just making me more curious to know

Chris-Chan is one of the most infamous fans of Sonic for their passionate hatred, most known for the Sonichu comic and attacking someone with pepperspray at gamestop for having a different opinion or something.

 

[Wolfie557]

Guys SFV has some of those features at launch.

And if you loved Splatoon's model but hate this you're a hypocrite.

It's all free stuff.

I hate both Splatoon & SFV for doing that. I actually stopped playing the game for over a month until that Summer big update. Then the updates continued and er well I only started playing it to finish that story mode and reach Level 20 in order to get it out of my backlog. New weapons were fine but it quickly went to new modes, stages and weapon types.

I still haven't played it since those 2 weeks in Oct/Nov,and before that it was late August.

It really puts me off. :/

 

[Frostwraith]

Oh no! I can't believe they're releasing a game earlier that will get the rest of its content later for FREE! Such blasphemy! The gaming industry is ruined!!!

Can you blame people for still having standards?

Just a bunch of years ago, people bought full games at launch.

There was a deadline, they met it by releasing the full package.

Again, free DLC or not, I don't stand for companies releasing incomplete games. When a game lacks basic modes and basic contents that are standard in a full game, yeah, it's bad. It's paying full price for a glorified demo.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Free content? Oh, we're going to get free content.
Yeah. Free content that should've already been in the game!


I swear I feel like I'm going insane here. Why are people acting like this is completely okay?! It's not! You're the customer, we're the consumers, and we shouldn't be ratted out of anything. Let alone defend shady practices!

Because we're still getting it with no strings attached.

It's buying a subscription. A very cheap subscription. And the content seems awesome.

 

[A Distant Demon]

How is Rashid terrible?

IDK I haven't played the game.

I'm just assuming the character I think looks the coolest is going to suck because the last time I saw anything about him he apparently has extremely low damage and options but mostly pessimism.

Because we're still getting it with no strings attached.

It's buying a subscription. A very cheap subscription. And the content seems awesome.

I'm thinking that one may be sarcasm

EDIT or maybe not?

 

[Substitution]

Because we're still getting it with no strings attached.

It's buying a subscription. A very cheap subscription. And the content seems awesome.

Ah yes. What a wonderful subscription! I get AI and an Arcade mode? Wow! They are sure breaking the boundaries.

Thank God Capcom is respecting the fan's respects with such a wonderful DLC plan!

 

[Z25]

Yes. I can't reccomend polygamy at all in most cases, but in my case it works because we all each have a bomd with eachother. It's rather neat, really.

Though my boyfriend literally has a lowerhand in the relationship due to his poor living consitions(Poor and strict family on all the wrong things.) and not having the looks like us.(Again, we grew up with money, he's insanely poor, so I can't blame him AT ALL.) Yet I love him just as much and will go out of my way to support him. I just have realistic expectations, and it won't be as easy as it is with my girlfriend.

Sorry for the mini biography. I'm just a person who loves to go into detail. This sort of thing seems crazy to most, but I believe in reaching high in life, as if you only have one chance.

There's always crazier things in life! And if you can make something like this work, then I say go for it!

Everybody's entitled to live life the way they want to!

And SFV looks great, I don't know if I'd buy it if paywalls are put up for locked content.I hope hey realize that this would not be good for them.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Ah yes. What a wonderful subscription! I get AI and an Arcade mode? Wow! They are sure breaking the boundaries.

Thank God Capcom is respecting the fan's respects with such a wonderful DLC plan!

AI and Arcade mode are int the game at launch...

Like seriously...

 

[AreJay25]

I will say this though, it's pretty stupid how you have to wait to get the alt. costumes.

I mean, you actually use most of them in Story Mode.

 

[BluePikmin11]

The first Smashified trophy is here!:

 

[Wolfie557]

So why did they put that newcomer into SF5 who looks like someone who was meant to appear in a Dead or Alive game but got lost on the way and ended up in SF5?

That booty is just too much. >.>

 

[Chrono.]

Arcade mode was nixed in favor of Survival and Character Story mode from the looks of it.

 

[Wario Bros.]

If I was to get Street Fighter V (don't have a PS4 or a powerful computer) I'd wait a good bit after the game's launch so more content is ready when I start the game.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Arcade mode was nixed in favor of Survival and Character Story mode from the looks of it.

Character story is their version of arcade mode. Pretty much the same things happen.




Regardless, you guys are okay with paying almost 100 bucks to get all the Smash DLC and one version of the game, but are angry at paying 60 bucks for something that will eventually have the same amount of content?

You are literally saving money. I don't understand.

 

[Substitution]

AI and Arcade mode are int the game at launch...

Like seriously...

I'm referring to the CPU matches for the record (you know... P1 vs CPU and the like). Which sure my AI tidbit is misleading and I apologize for that.
Arcade mode on the other hand from what I read is not at launch.

 

[Wolfie557]

If I was to get Street Fighter V (don't have a PS4 or a powerful computer) I'd wait a good bit after the game's launch so more content is ready when I start the game.

Yh. That's what I should have done with Splatoon tbh. Instead it was just sitting there in my room. Taunting. Teasing.

 

[Deleted member]

Honestly, I don't see the problem at all unless you were to not play ir ever again after only a short amount of timebof playing it, or someone completely unaware they were buying an incomplete game.

I mean, it's not like the game is broken and released, that's when it's really bad. The gameplay itself is complete, just not modes and stuff.

I mean sure, they could either do what they're doing or release the game cheap and make you pay for the contents later, which sounds worse to me(I like to get the payments relieved off my chest.), but hey, whatever makes people happy.

Personally, I say, if your so upset with it, just buy it later as if it were actually being released at the time. No need to complain about people's standards because they want to get a game early.

Though I admit, at the very least tou SHOULD be able to fight CPUs at launch.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

While driving I had some van riding my ass while I was going the maximum speed limit

So the first chance they get they pass me

The entire van was packed with people that all just stared at me while they passed. Not just a quick glance, the entire time the passed

So I did what any good driver would do and stuck my middle finger at them

What was their problem?

 

[Champ Gold]

Guys don't buy a fighting game day one when it releases.


Be patient and wait for a price drop and when the game has a decent amount of content ready.


Don't ever do that, especially when you know DLC is coming and we could have some crazy balance problems early on. It's better to be a late adapter (not too late but give it time)

 

[Cutie Gwen]

To people unhappy/butthurt/salty about this SFV news. You know what you should do? Either A: Buy it at launch anyway as you still have some content with more coming later or B: Wait till the content gets added. Nobody's forcing you to buy at launch, so if this stuff not being added till a while later, simply wait. Considering Capcom wanted this to be at EVO, they are releasing what they have NOW so that part of their audience can already try it out. I predict that there will be a huge spike in sales once the extra content is added, as again, you aren't being forced to get it at launch, and if you want your money's worth, it'll be well worth the wait. And 40 bucks? You DO realize that's cheaper than the average AAA game, right? It isn't full price either

 

[Swamp Sensei]

I'm referring to the CPU matches for the record (you know... P1 vs CPU and the like). Which sure my AI tidbit is misleading and I apologize for that.
Arcade mode on the other hand from what I read is not at launch.

But you can fight AIs.... Training allows it.

 

[Deleted member]

No one will be able to accurately describe what he is, honestly.

Just don't dig too far into the wiki people made about him and the Sonichu comic.

There are things the human race was not meant to see. Very, very inappropriate things.

You may say to yourself, "surely what I could encounter can't be that bad, right?"

Then you see a photo of him with his clothing off.


Just watch a review of Sonichu on YouTube where people have to censor the comic and not show the rough stuff and you'll get a vague idea.

Alright, let's watch a revie-- oh my ****ing god I regret my life decisions

Can you blame people for still having standards?

Just a bunch of years ago, people bought full games at launch.

There was a deadline, they met it by releasing the full package.

Again, free DLC or not, I don't stand for companies releasing incomplete games. When a game lacks basic modes and basic contents that are standard in a full game, yeah, it's bad. It's paying full price for a glorified demo.

You're paying full price for a full game that will come later
How is that any different from pre-ordering something or pre-downloading it? Except in this case, you already get part of it

 

[A Distant Demon]

Character story is their version of arcade mode. Pretty much the same things happen.




Regardless, you guys are okay with paying almost 100 bucks to get all the Smash DLC and one version of the game, but are angry at paying 60 bucks for something that will eventually have the same amount of content?

You are literally saving money. I don't understand.

It's ok because Nintedno did it


*cough*

Spoiler

*cough*

 

[Cutie Gwen]

It's ok because Nintedno did it


*cough*

Spoiler

*cough*

Capcom KNOWS they ****ed up there, considering how quick they were to say they wouldn't do this with SFV. People need to learn to stop whining on websites like this, but whine with their wallets.

 

[Frostwraith]

Regardless, you guys are okay with paying almost 100 bucks to get all the Smash DLC and one version of the game, but are angry at paying 60 bucks for something that will eventually have the same amount of content?

You are literally saving money. I don't understand.

Two things:
1. Smash comes with heaps upon heaps of content. You pay full price for a game that has an above average amount of content, especially the Wii U version. Around 50 characters, plenty of stages, plenty of game modes, both single player and multiplayer, online mode, tons of unlockables and collectibles.
2. Smash DLC was done after the base game was completed and was released quite some time after the game was released, being done from scratch.

Two development cycles: one for the base game, that came full of content and a lot of replay value, and another for optional extra content.

Street Fighter V and Splatoon? You pay full price for an explicitly incomplete game, essentially a glorified demo, and you have to wait for basic stuff that should have come in the base game.

Sure, I can see merits to it, such as allowing the game to be released earlier and such, but a game missing basic content is plain bad. It is a lowering of standards the industry used to uphold.

Downloadable content isn't bad. Patches aren't bad. Internet connection does provide such benefits, but it's being abused and exploited.

 

[IceBreakerXY]

While its rare occurance for me.I agree with Swamp Sensei we are the same people who spend nearly 100 dolalrs on smash DLC and are the same people who defended splatoon.Double standards people.Though i will admit not having 1p vs CPU is actually stupid

 

[Godzillathewonderdog]

Are people just now complaining about SFV's DLC plans?

This reminds me how everyone started to complain about Smash 3DS/Wii U not getting a story mode months after that news was announced.