Swag Halloween Mafia --- swag NEVER ends

[Kantrip]

if i was literally not doing anything i would... literally, not be doing anything

by saying ew I am doing something. i am displaying distaste for the posts of yours i am reading. ive made it clear that i have yet to dive into the game, but even before doing so i am noticing scumminess from you and feel that its worth voicing, especially because ryker asked me a question that its relevant to

 

[#HBC | Joker]

omg call the press, Kantrip scumreads me. Just like literally every game we've ever been in together.

 

[Maven89]

I'll respond in depth later don't really feel like making a big post right now, but Joker....... Your recent posts have me agreeing with Potassium. Mainly you acting like Joey saying he wanted a claim before lynching me meant he didn't think I was scum.

 

[Dooms]

He's either VT, or scum?

lmao at you. Unless you truly think I posted that just to say that he's vt or scum, then I'm just confused.

So you're just gonna keep sitting on your vote, and not scumhunt? I mean, if you were actually at all interested in seeing him claim, you'd ask him to claim.

Just because I'm not asking people questions doesn't mean I'm not scumhunting. I'm reading the thread and developing opinions just fine. That's a bold statement to make. Why would I ask about where he is vote-wise if I wasn't interested in hearing more from him?

Also, you're implying that I'm not doing anything at all right now. You're funny. You're also still reaching

Are you gonna actually play this game, or are you just gonna sit there making snide little comments? You keep saying "Ew", but you're literally not doing anything when you say that.

He's getting a reaction out of you so obviously he's doing enough lmao.

omg call the press, Kantrip scumreads me. Just like literally every game we've ever been in together.

 

[#HBC | Joker]

I'll respond in depth later don't really feel like making a big post right now, but Joker....... Your recent posts have me agreeing with Potassium. Mainly you acting like Joey saying he wanted a claim before lynching me meant he didn't think I was scum.

What are you even talking about? He said he didn't want to lynch you in case you were a PR. There's only one PR in this game, and it's a town one.

But now he's ok with voting you because it won't be his fault if you get lynched. After all, he made sure you weren't at L-2, right?

 

[Dooms]

What are you even talking about? He said he didn't want to lynch you in case you were a PR. There's only one PR in this game, and it's a town one.

That's not what I said at all. I said I wanted a claim out of him. That's not saying that I don't want to lynch him in case he's a PR. Wanting a claim =/= not wanting to lynch.

But now he's ok with voting you because it won't be his fault if you get lynched. After all, he made sure you weren't at L-2, right?

Stating that I have legitimate reasons behind voting Maven (regardless of if they're my own or have been already stated) and putting my vote on there regardless of L-# means that I am a part of that wagon. It means that I am by standard partially responsible for his lynch. I am one of the 7 people that chose to vote him out of the game. How on earth do you get the conclusion that because I asked where he was and stated that I didn't want him prematurely lynched these things suddenly equal that I won't be at fault if he got lynched? ESPECIALLY after I've discussed this with Maven to such an extent. Do you have any idea how ridiculous that sounds? It's not like I randomly voted him or something. I stated clearly that he was suspicious and that I didn't like how he has played. That by definition puts me at fault if he gets lynched and flips town.

You're still reaching btw :D

 

[Kantrip]

vote: joker

 

[Dooms]

HOLD UP

So you don't want him to die, but you want credit for pressuring him, even tho you're actually not doing anything to pressure him?

You say I'm trying to get credit for pressuring him even though I haven't done anything, but then follow it up with this?

But now he's ok with voting you because it won't be his fault if you get lynched. After all, he made sure you weren't at L-2, right?

How on earth could I both be trying to take credit for pressuring Maven while avoiding fault if he gets lynched? Explain this to me.

 

[#HBC | Joker]

By not voting when he was at L-2, but then immediately jumping on the wagon when he dropped below that. That's how.

 

[#HBC | Joker]

That's not what I said at all. I said I wanted a claim out of him. That's not saying that I don't want to lynch him in case he's a PR. Wanting a claim =/= not wanting to lynch.

I don't want him to die without claiming, no. I'd prefer to not lynch our one and only pr prematurely.

It's right there. You didn't want to lynch him in case he flipped a PR.

 

[Dooms]

By not voting when he was at L-2, but then immediately jumping on the wagon when he dropped below that. That's how.

I'd still be at fault for lynching him because I was still showing very obvious suspicion of him. It's pretty crystal clear that this is the case, too. If that lynch would have went through, people would have considered me to be a part of the group of people that thought Maven was scummy.

 

[Kantrip]

It's right there. You didn't want to lynch him in case he flipped a PR.

you are reeeeeeally twisting what he said

its pretty clear what he was saying and i cant believe that you would not understand this so long

take a step back and think about it again

 

[#HBC | Joker]

I'd still be at fault for lynching him because I was still showing very obvious suspicion of him. It's pretty crystal clear that this is the case, too. If that lynch would have went through, people would have considered me to be a part of the group of people that thought Maven was scummy.

You can't sit there and pretend nobody has ever said "but guys, I just wanted to wagon him to see how he'd react. I even made sure he wasn't within hammer range when I voted him." and gotten away with it.

The point is, your jump on his wagon was calculated. You made sure to only vote him at a specific point.

 

[#HBC | Joker]

you are reeeeeeally twisting what he said

its pretty clear what he was saying and i cant believe that you would not understand this so long

take a step back and think about it again

How is it twisting what he said? I just quoted his exact wording.

 

[Maven89]

How is it twisting what he said? I just quoted his exact wording.

I mean I have no idea how you are reading it the way you are. It seems really clear that he's saying he wasn't comfortable with me dying until I had claimed. Him not wanting to put me to L-1 matches up with this as he didn't want me to be quick hammered before I could claim. I don't know how you don't understand that's what he's saying.

 

[Dooms]

You can't sit there and pretend nobody has ever said "but guys, I just wanted to wagon him to see how he'd react. I even made sure he wasn't within hammer range when I voted him." and gotten away with it.

The point is, your jump on his wagon was calculated. You made sure to only vote him at a specific point.

Yes, that has happened before. Do you HONESTLY believe that is what is happening here?

 

[#HBC | Joker]

Yes, that has happened before. Do you HONESTLY believe that is what is happening here?

The fu-

YES. Why the hell else would I be scumreading you for it?

 

[Dooms]

Let me rephrase, since I'm not sure if I was specific enough.

"but guys, I just wanted to wagon him to see how he'd react. I even made sure he wasn't within hammer range when I voted him."

You think I'm going to do anything along these lines if Maven were to be lynched and flip town?

 

[Kantrip]

How is it twisting what he said? I just quoted his exact wording.

let me rephrase what he said for you

"i want to lynch him, but i want to wait until after he claims to do so so we can make sure we're not lynching our only PR"

 

[#HBC | Joker]

Absolutely.

 

[Kantrip]

im not saying i agree with that statement by itself btw

any competent scum player about to be lynched will claim cop to either draw a CC and out the real cop or save himself

 

[#HBC | Joker]

^ was @ Dooms

 

[#HBC | Joker]

omfg stop ****ing ninjaing me

 

[#HBC | Joker]

let me rephrase what he said for you

"i want to lynch him, but i want to wait until after he claims to do so so we can make sure we're not lynching our only PR"

I don't understand what it is you think you're telling me. You're just repeating the same thing back to me that I already said.

 

[Kantrip]

youve been saying he didnt want to lynch maven

It's right there. You didn't want to lynch him in case he flipped a PR.

untrue

 

[Dooms]

I don't believe you, Joker

Given the conversation Maven and I have had and the fact that I've made it clear that I want to lynch him, I honestly can not believe that you think that if Maven were to get lynched and flip town that I would say it wasn't my fault or that I was just trying to test his reaction.

I definitely can't believe you after you've openly stated that you thought I was trying to take credit for pressuring Maven WHILE trying not to be credible for lynching him.

I don't know what you're trying to do here, but you're either not thinking in the slightest or you're trying to make something happen with the oddest logic in DGames I've seen in a really long time.

I can't even start to explain a read on this. I don't understand what you're saying or why you believe this in the slightest.

 

[#HBC | Joker]

Nah, what I'm saying makes sense. It's not backwards, or hard to believe, it's clearly just over your head.

 

[Maven89]

I can't even start to explain a read on this. I don't understand what you're saying or why you believe this in the slightest.

I can relate to this feeling

Nah, what I'm saying makes sense. It's not backwards, or hard to believe, it's clearly just over your head.

Joker I have no idea at all what you are saying

 

[Maven89]

You think he's suspicious for wanting to hold off on my lynch until I claim?

 

[#HBC | Joker]

youve been saying he didnt want to lynch maven



untrue

I said he claims he didn't want to lynch Maven until he had claimed.

But he never asked for a claim.

 

[#HBC | Joker]

You think he's suspicious for wanting to hold off on my lynch until I claim?

He used it as an excuse to make an extremely calculated hop on your wagon.

 

[Dooms]

He used it as an excuse to make an extremely calculated hop on your wagon.

I understand why you think this. You're not the first person to tell me "Why didn't you ask for a claim if you wanted him to claim?" before. I've gotten that a few times, actually. The reaction has been the same. People don't like it that I expect people to claim for themselves when they hit L-2 or L-1, and that's fine. I literally couldn't give a damn, because that's just how I am.

What I don't get is the fact that you actually think that I will somehow be able to say "I was just trying to pull a reaction from Maven" if he were to be lynched and flip town. How is anything I've said reaction baiting? How do Kantrip and Maven both state that I want Maven lynched as pretty much an open fact, but you somehow still believe that I can get away with saying that I didn't want him lynched?

You could say that I didn't want him lynched prematurely, but how is that anything but null?

I'm just trying to wrap my head around this. Also, it's not the fact that it's over my head. It's the fact that you're either assuming that something you've implied is something you've openly stated or you assume that we know more of your thought process than we actually do. Something is missing here.

 

[Kantrip]

I said he claims he didn't want to lynch Maven until he had claimed.

But he never asked for a claim.

so your problem is literally that joey said he was fine with the maven wagon but wouldnt vote him until he saw a claim and that he didnt explicitly tell maven to claim?

and you think his scum intent was that he was trying to get credit for being on board with the maven wagon without having to vote him? so this implies you think they are scum partners right? like maven would flip scum which is why scum joey is trying to look like he agrees with the wagon without supporting it?

and you havent considered the possibility that hes telling the truth, wants to lynch maven, but just wants to wait until maven claims?

 

[#HBC | Joker]

so your problem is literally that joey said he was fine with the maven wagon but wouldnt vote him until he saw a claim and that he didnt explicitly tell maven to claim?

and you think his scum intent was that he was trying to get credit for being on board with the maven wagon without having to vote him? so this implies you think they are scum partners right? like maven would flip scum which is why scum joey is trying to look like he agrees with the wagon without supporting it?

and you havent considered the possibility that hes telling the truth, wants to lynch maven, but just wants to wait until maven claims?

What? No, it doesn't imply they are scum partners. Scum wants to fake like they're contributing, he wouldn't have to be handing us his partner to do that.

 

[Kantrip]

Then why not ACTUALLY throw his vote down?

He has no reason to "make it look like he supports a wagon without joining it" which is what you're accusing him of doing. Whatever you think his intent is, you've muddled it multiple times

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Vote Laundry

Play the game please.

I've hella skimmed. Will actually read tomorrow.

@Whoever said that a competent scum player will claim our only PR

Our cop only effects one faction, iirc. A competent scum of the other alignment would actually avoid claiming in order to have help locating the remaining members of the other faction.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Laundry, Kantrip, Joey =/= town

We should lynch one of them toDay.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Requesting prods where applicable

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Laundry, Kantrip, Joey =/= town

We should lynch one of them toDay.

I back this statement.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Laundry, Kantrip, Joey =/= town

We should lynch one of them toDay.

vote laundry

unvote vote kantrip

unvote vote joey

unvote vote ruy

...

unvote vote laundry