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So I'd like to start the fun filled adventure of another survey. I think top 15 (ordered)/bottom 10 (unordered) is still a good number? [non ordered top submissions are okay still].
If you have suggestions or comments then please let me know. This includes additions to the group. If you didn't vote last time it's fine to participate now. If you want to 'pass' I can tally your previous vote.
*if you want to have some custom considerations in your list, feel free. I can take extra tidbits and make them interesting one way or another*. As a current "issue" noting how you would see 1111 Miis compared to all-specials ones (default size or non-restricted?) would be solid.
Due Date... 24th of August (hopefully before the end of the month? )
1. Sheik
2. Mario
3. Sonic
4. Captain Falcon
5. Diddy Kong
6. Zero Suit Samus
7. Fox
8. Pikachu
9. Yoshi
10. Ness
11. Mega Man
12. Wario
13. Luigi
14. Meta Knight
15. Rosalina and Luma
Samus, Zelda, Mewtwo, King Dedede, Wii Fit Trainer, Link, Jigglypuff, Dr. Mario, Palutena, Shulk
1. Sheik
2. Zero Suit Samus
3. Rosalina
4. Luigi
5. Fox
6. Diddy Kong
7. Ness
8. Captain Falcon
9. Pikachu
10. Sonic
11. Yoshi
12. ROB
13. Mario
14. Olimar
15. Wario
My updated top 15:
1. Sheik
2. Pikachu
3. Zero Suit Samus
4. Rosalina&Luma
5. Luigi
6. Mario
7. Fox
8. Ness
9. Diddy Kong
10. Meta Knight
11. ROB
12. Sonic
13. Captain Falcon
14. Peach
15. Yoshi
Bottom 10 (no order):
Samus, Jigglypuff, Zelda, Mii Gunner, WiiFit Trainer, Ganondorf, Dr. Mario, Lucina, Mii Brawler, Charizard.
I feel the last 3 characters I mentioned are above the rest, but I had to put someone in bottom 10. Idk, I'm not confident in what I think may be bottom 10.
Top 15 (no customs)
1. Sheik
2. Zero Suit Samus
3. Pikachu
4. Luigi
5. Rosalina & Luma
6. Diddy Kong
7. Fox
8. Mario
9. Sonic
10. Yoshi
11. Ryu
12. Ness
13. Captain Falcon
14. Meta Knight
15. ROB
1. Sheik
2. Pikachu
3. Zero Suit Samus
4. Luma
5. Fox
6. Luigi
7. Ness
8. Yoshi
9. Sonic
10. DiddyKong
11. Mario
12. ROB
13. Wario
14. Falcon
15. Olimar
Bottom 10: (No Order)
Samus, Zelda, Dr. Mario, MiiGunner, Mii Swordsman, JigglyPuff, Paultena, Mewtwo, WiiFit, Lucas
1. Sheik
2. Pikachu
3. ZSS
4. Luigi
5. Fox
6. RosaLuma
7. Sonic
8. Ness
9. Diddy Kong
10. Mario
11. Yoshi
12. MetaKnight
13. Villager
14. ROB
15. Falcon/Marth/Wario
1. Sheik
2. ZSS
3. Pikachu
4. Fox
5. Luigi
6. Rosalina & Luma
7. Diddy Kong
8. Ness
9. Mario
10. Meta Knight
11. Yoshi
12. Sonic
13. Villager
14. ROB
15. Falcon/Wario
Well if you tell me you're updating it that should be fine, although if you kept it with just string names this would be significantly easier (post diff).
Also I added that poll but I can't seem to make the results public (must have messed it up), so I'm not sure if someone voted yes as a joke/test or it's stealth nairo, lol
Will release shortly after I get Ramin / Nairos lists.
Well if you tell me you're updating it that should be fine, although if you kept it with just string names this would be significantly easier (post diff).
Also I added that poll but I can't seem to make the results public (must have messed it up), so I'm not sure if someone voted yes as a joke/test or it's stealth nairo, lol
Will release shortly after I get Ramin / Nairos lists.
Sheik Pikachu Zss Luigi Diddy kong Rosalina Sonic Yoshi Mario Ness Ryu Fox Donkey kong Villager Metaknight Wario Megaman
Ganondorf, Mii swordsman, Mii gunner, Samus, Charizard, Wii fit trainer, Link, Zelda, Palutena, Shulk, Dr mario, Mewtwo, Duck hunt, Jigglypuf, Mii brawler
1. Sheik
2. Zero Suit Samus
3. Pikachu
4. Luigi
5. Rosalina & Luma
6. Fox
7. Sonic
8. Diddy Kong
9. Mario
10. Ness
11. Yoshi
12. Captain Falcon
13. Meta Knight
14. R.O.B.
15. Wario
16. Villager
17. Olimar & Alph & Pikmins
18. Lucario
19≈23. Donkey Kong, Megaman, Peach, Pits, Ryu
24≈36. Bowser, Bowser Jr., Falco, Mr. Game & Watch, Greninja, Ike, Kirby, Little Mac, Marth, Pacman, Robin, Roy, Toon Link
37≈44. King Dedede, Charizard, Duck Hunt, Link, Lucas, Mii Brawler, Mii Swordsman, Shulk
45. Lucina
46≈54. Dr. Mario, Ganondorf, Jigglypuff, Mewtwo, Mii Gunner, Palutena, Samus, Wii Fit Trainer, Zelda
Result Synopsis
I hope the titling "Inconclusive / Outliers" makes sense, characters here either did not appear, were too infrequent or had small mixtures of both high and low opinions. those which did not appear this time were: Bowser Jr, Mr G&W, Greninja, Ike and Pacman; Pacman being the only character doing this consecutively.
As mentioned, nearly all the top ten appeared unanimously. Yoshi and Falcon appeared in just under 90% of lists and fifteenth ended cleanly with Wario appearing in over half. The reason I did not put the aforementioned two with the top ten was just because of the notable shift of average and median placement from those above. The top ten were mostly bounded within that area, usually seeing a majority of votes within a range of 3 to 4 spots. For the next version I'll likely expand the upper range, as most of it seems to be a very solidified area at this stage. The next three characters have featured in both versions, appearing in at least a quarter of lists, this with the combination of Olimar dropping out of 'core' was my justification for expanding the literal spots. The next five(ish) characters, notably Pit who did not maintain the same level of confidence as last time, rounded off infrequent but still clear positive ratings for them within top fifteen.
Bottom ten was clean this time in terms of frequency, unlike last time which tenth was a tie. Those original eleven characters were 71% of the ballot, this time the clear 9 characters were 65%, and although the tenth was slightly closer to the higher eight it wrapped up the ten with 70% of the ballot. There were 8 extra characters in the original that took up 92% (w/19) and this time 93% (w/18). Miis, despite their heavy restrictions were mostly on the lower end of frequency, possibly a result of a lot uncertainty, as they are excessively rare characters in tournament in this "meta". The extra eight in both instances though have been quite different in listed characters, many of them having received buffs in the patch that proceeded or acquired some important exposure that swayed thoughts; this is the most volatile area of opinion between versions thus far, although this chaos isn't painting an accurate picture of much, I hope it's interesting.
Credits
We grew in size of participants and welcome the contributions of Reflex, NAKAT, Cyve, Mr. Concon and Mr.R. Expanded European contribution is great and I have ambitions in seeing if bridges can be built to other regions and nations as well in the future (still low on Midwest within the US!). For all participants though, thank you again =)
Even if I wouldn't call this a tier list, if I were to look at it like one I would be pretty happy with the results of our efforts and hope the community enjoy the progress we're all making with Smash4's metagame. Many of the participants are open about what they think personally and some are putting explanations in videos and other media through their various channels, you should check them out.
As necessary, if you don't know me, I'm Shaya, a long-term Smash community member and and pride myself on meta knowledge and science, and I manage the liaising and logistics of this project~
You also can follow me on Twitter and pass this around there if you like it :D
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