Super Smash Bros. Infinite Beyond

[Glubbfubb]

I like all these entries personally, gives a lot of deep cuts

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

Results incoming! It was a really good race~!

 

[Glubbfubb]

Results incoming! It was a really good race~!

Did Mach Rider win this round?

 

[DragonRobotKing26]

Did Mach Rider win this round?

Calm down, Venus don't said who is the most voted

 

[Glubbfubb]

Calm down, Venus don't said who is the most voted

the mention of a race triggered my speculation brain

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

I was the most voted. I am now playable.

 

[Mushroomguy12]

Pauline was technically in Mario Kart...

Anyways Venus now know how Sakurai feels when he talks about anything and fans immediately assume it has to do with Smash.

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

Pauline was technically in Mario Kart...

Anyways Venus now know how Sakurai feels when he talks about anything and fans immediately assume it has to do with Smash.

Technically yes but she is still apart of that "retro umbrella" in a weird sort of way. Birdo would of been also acceptable.

I guess some can't help playing detective and start throwing guesses left and right. I hope no body is going to be a wreck after the winner is a grand slam out of the park.

 

[Mushroomguy12]

I was the most voted. I am now playable.

Mario, Link, and Kirby are all fighting in a cliffside area. All of a sudden a shadow appears like in Mega Man's trailer. The silhouette then appears to be whatever that character is in Venus pfp.

Splash tagline: Venus moderates the boards!

The character jumps down and begins fighting, handing out infractions to all the Smash Infinite fighters and getting them banned from the arena.

Technically yes but she is still apart of that "retro umbrella" in a weird sort of way. Birdo would of been also acceptable.

I guess some can't help playing detective and start throwing guesses left and right. I hope no body is going to be a wreck after the winner is a grand slam out of the park.

I was just making a quip about how she could also have something to do with races, not that she was somehow ineligible. A bunch of these characters have made some kind of modern reappearance anyways, as long as they have a heavy association with retro I think it's fine.

 

[GolisoPower]

Well either way, Venus seems to have narrowed down who won by a significant margin. Can't wait to see who won!

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

This was a fairly quick voting process while, straight forward, does come with more extended time for voting....

Name	Total
Mach Rider	35
Foreman Spike	17
Alice	6
Starman	12
Doc Louis	11
Mike Jones	32
Pauline	24
Lip	27
Mr. Stevenson	8
Ayumi Tachibana	25
Donkey Kong Jr	16

Please check down below to see who won!

Spoiler

Name	5 Points	4 Points	3 Points	2 Points	1 Point	Total
Mach Rider	2 (10)	2 (8)	3 (9)	2 (4)	4	35
Foreman Spike	2 (10)	0	0	2 (4)	3	17
Alice	0	0	1 (3)	1 (2)	1	6
Starman	0	1 (4)	2 (6)	1 (2)	0	12
Doc Louis	1 (5)	0	1 (3)	1 (2)	1	11
Mike Jones	5 (25)	1 (4)	0	1 (2)	1	32
Pauline	1 (5)	3 (12)	1 (3)	2 (4)	0	24
Lip	1 (5)	5 (20)	0	0	2	27
Mr. Stevenson	0	0	2 (6)	1 (2)	0	8
Ayumi Tachibana	1 (5)	1 (4)	4 (12)	1 (2)	2	25
Donkey Kong Jr	1 (5)	1 (4)	1 (3)	2 ()4	0	16

We will be conducting a runoff poll between the top two characters: Mike Jones and Mach Rider. Mike Jones nabbed the highest amount of 5 point votes but scoring low in lower-tier points while Mach Rider managed to speed by with those coveted lower tier points while also managing to get past technically the top scourer. With that being said, we will conduct yet another runoff poll.

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

PLEASE GO HERE TO VOTE

 

[Glubbfubb]

If Mike Jones were to win, we should have a reference to how you needed to dunk an IRL piece of paper into some water to get a code to progress through the game.

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

Results incoming! It was a very tough race indeed!

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

Here are the results!!

Name	Points
Mach Rider	5
Mike Jones	6

Please click the spoiler below to find out who won!

Spoiler

MIKE JONES BATS ON UP TO THE ROSTER​

Mike Jones was previously an Assist Trophy and Mii Costume before being promoted into our LDC lineup! Due to having this role, the Assist Trophy will be phased out as a result once the character hits. This was a very close voting segment though I never voted and, had I, I would of voted for Mach Rider thus making it a tie so I opted not to vote. This character brings up an interesting option: do we include lot of Star Tropics content or do we focus on other retro series for content instead? Please air your thoughts out.

 

[Mushroomguy12]

One vote.... that could have been tied.... with a vote count lower than the initial round and a voting period slightly shorter than the initial round....

Fine I guess.

I like Mike Jones too but, I feel if the rest of us don't get to look at the results before we can vote... perhaps voting before looking at the results or just voting immediately would be more fair in the future.

 

[DragonRobotKing26]

Spoiler

this was a very hard choice,i really wanted Mach Rider,but i'm also curious about Mike Jones,but i don't know a lot of StarTroppics

so...i voted in Mike Jones,sorry Rider

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

One vote.... that could have been tied.... with a vote count lower than the initial round and a voting period slightly shorter than the initial round....

Fine I guess.

I like Mike Jones too but, I feel if the rest of us don't get to look at the results before we can vote... perhaps voting before looking at the results or just voting immediately would be more fair in the future.

Edited: Being a jerk, sorry

 

[Mushroomguy12]

OK OK you've made your point. You're free to vote however you want, obviously it shouldn't be my place to tell you to vote or how to vote. Congrats to Mike Jones, I do like the character too, sorry if I came off as a sore loser. It wasn't my intention, although I seemed to have failed in that regard.

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

OK OK you've made your point. You're free to vote however you want, obviously it shouldn't be my place to tell you to vote or how to vote. Congrats to Mike Jones, I do like the character too, sorry if I came off as a sore loser. It wasn't my intention, although I seemed to have failed in that regard.

Nah, I was being a jerk again. I should apologize.

But it's no secret that we are losing participants and interest and certain jobs pull in more voters than not. Even this must recent runoff, to me, was like "Oh, I need to do a runoff poll again" because I don't have the time (and energy) to devote to it. I want to make sure I can quickly catalog information and archive it.

Anyways, I will look into maybe showing results but I can't promise anything. Historically, showing results caused vote changed and tampering with. Is it always the most preferred result? Sometimes not.

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

With that being said, we will be moving to our newcomer submission content!

Mike Jones is from the retro series Star Tropics and, while it certainly has content to draw from, I am a little unsure how this would look. By looking at the submissions....

Mike Jones Moveset Submissions​

Mike Jones (StarTropics)

Mike Jones, the main protag of StarTropics, an american teenager who visits the tropical C-Island to see his uncle. But Mike finds out that his uncle is missing, so he sets out on a rescue mission, with his yo-yo as his weapon fighting threats like aliens. Interestingly, despite his origin being from Nintendo. His games was never released in Japan but with so many western reps being in Smash at this point. I think its fair to finally put Mike back into the spotlight and show the world what he can really do.

While his moves from the games may be similar to Ness's. He could instead be the reverse of Ness with his moveset being more focused on his hobbies-turned-weapons rather then psychic moves although he does have a Psychic Shockwave. His game even got into the Nintendo Switch Online service back in 2019 so he's not totally irrelevant in Nintendo's rader. It be cool to see an Nintendo rep created specifically for the west to get his chance to fight off with Nintendo's All-Stars.

It doesn't exactly provide us a clear and cut outlook on what kind of character Mike Jones would be. That being said, I decided to give Mike a bit of a basic gameplay style given his more generic appearance. No gimmicks, no mechanics. Just a standard character that has some interesting moves but I think this is where the fun is - we can be a bit interpretative with his moveset.

I went poking in around Google for information:
Mike Jones moveset #1
Mike Jones Moveset #2
Mike Jones Moveset Page
Mike Jones Video Essay

 

[Justoneguyhere1999]

I didn't expect the voting be so close. Maybe I should had voted Mech Rider but this is ok.

For content-wise. I believe if StarTropics isn't enough. It's fine to pull stuff from other retro games.

 

[GolisoPower]

From what little I've played of StarTropics, I think the feeling of the game's combat can be described as "space your foe a good bit, and time your item throws just right", even more so than Zelda. So let's make Mike a mid-range fighter who likes to keep foes at a distance but can get bent if he mistimes his attacks or goes against someone better at a specific kind of attack than himself. I agree with Venus that we should make him somewhat like Banjo & Kazooie or Sora: a standard, middle-of-the-road character with some interesting complexities to make him stand out. Sorta beginner-friendly, if you will.

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

I didn't expect the voting be so close. Maybe I should had voted Mech Rider but this is ok.

For content-wise. I believe if StarTropics isn't enough. It's fine to pull stuff from other retro games.

Oh we will. But how much content from Star Tropics is what is being discussed.

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

It should be noted that:

Mike Jones is our first newcomer character from a new series since Saki and Sin & Punishment which was one of the first characters revealed in base Infinite Beyond.
Mike Jones is the first character who made a transition from assist trophy to playable during the development of DLC content and is the first character to do so in this fashion

 

[Glubbfubb]

Now personally I think we should reference that infamous moment where you had to use an IRL password hidden on a letter you would get in the manual by dunking some water on the paper. It could be his potential smash reveal trailer where he found a hidden message in an empty smash letter that invited him to smash.

Also
Neutral Special:
Perfect Swing
Mike charges his bat to perform a powerful swing, it is inspired by Marth's Shield Breaker, however it has some unique properties. Firstly the bat usually can't instantly break shields, it can heavily damage them but it isn't capable of shattering the shield in one hit. The true power is lining up the sweetspot of the bat, which is in the middle, hitting that deals incredible knockback and not only instantly break shields but also deals a critical hit, launching the foe upwards. Think of it as a toned down version of what would happen if Jigglypuff breaks her shield.

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

Offff....


This has been a rough submission period but that is to be expected when it comes to 1) retros and 2) a retro that many do not know about

I have several ideas cooking though

 

[GolisoPower]

Offff....


This has been a rough submission period but that is to be expected when it comes to 1) retros and 2) a retro that many do not know about

I have several ideas cooking though

Honestly, though, I was a bit confused on the prompt on whether we were suggesting a general playstyle or if we were submitting actual moves for Mike.

 

[Glubbfubb]

Now personally I think we should reference that infamous moment where you had to use an IRL password hidden on a letter you would get in the manual by dunking some water on the paper. It could be his potential smash reveal trailer where he found a hidden message in an empty smash letter that invited him to smash.

Also
Neutral Special:
Perfect Swing
Mike charges his bat to perform a powerful swing, it is inspired by Marth's Shield Breaker, however it has some unique properties. Firstly the bat usually can't instantly break shields, it can heavily damage them but it isn't capable of shattering the shield in one hit. The true power is lining up the sweetspot of the bat, which is in the middle, hitting that deals incredible knockback and not only instantly break shields but also deals a critical hit, launching the foe upwards. Think of it as a toned down version of what would happen if Jigglypuff breaks her shield.

Hey we have a neutral special, that is something I guess

 

[Justoneguyhere1999]

Side Special - Slingslot
Mike puts a small rock inside of a slingshot, where he pulls it back and fires it , hitting into a foe with 3 or 4% damage. You are not able to charge it but rather angle at any direction.

Up Special - Anklet
The Anklet goes into Mike's ankles, appearing as wings. Mike will be able to fly upwards for a few seconds before the anklet disappears.

 

[Glubbfubb]

Side Special - Slingslot
Mike puts a small rock inside of a slingshot, where he pulls it back and fires it , hitting into a foe with 3 or 4% damage. You are not able to charge it but rather angle at any direction.

Up Special - Anklet
The Anklet goes into Mike's ankles, appearing as wings. Mike will be able to fly upwards for a few seconds before the anklet disappears.

I sorta picture the up special to work like Pit's old Brawl recovery

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

Thank you everyone for your submissions! We will be now moving to

Mike Jones Additional Content​

We will be adding the following content:

Entrance Animation (1)
Idle Poses (2)
Taunts (4)
Victory Poses (3)
Victory Theme (1)
Kirby Hat (1)
Boxing Ring Title (1)
Crowd Cheer (1)
Splash Tagline (1)
Palutena's Guidance (1)
Snake Codec (1)
Classic Mode Route (1)

 

[GolisoPower]

Splash Tagline: MIKE Comes Ashore!

(Reference to a method of travel being majorly by boat for a lot of the series, also references the island setting)

Taunt: Mike takes out two bananas and sticks them into his ears with a big smile.

Boxing Ring Title: Ace Pitcher of C Island

 

[DragonRobotKing26]

Classic Mode Route: Retro Adventure (this route Mike fights against retro Nintendo characters)

#	Character​	Stage​	Notes​	Reference​
Round 1	Mr. Game & Watch​	Flat Zone​
Round 2	Ice Climbers​	Summit​
Round 3	Duck Hunt Duo​	Duck hunt​
Round 4	Takamaru​	Murasame Castle​
Round 5	Little Mac​	Boxing Ring​
Round 6	Pit​	Skyworld​
Race​	To​	The​	Finish​
Round 7	King Hippo (Boss)​

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

I meant to get us started on the next job earlier but…

Submit a Mike Jones Alternate Color​

We will be submitting alternate colors for Mike Jones. Please provide a color. Due to a lack of references, a general color without a source is perfectly fine.

Submit a Stage from StarTropics​

Likewise, we will be submitting a stage from the StarTropics series. I was hoping we could submit a Stage from a retro series cause this festival is about Reteo games, not just StarTropics. I get a feeling some think that is the case but it’s not. The stage will be similar to Duck Hunt in that it will be within the game engines graphics but will incorporate original sprites.

 

[nirvanafan]

Mike Jones Color - Yellow/Brown based on his Uncle Dr. Jones

C-Island Tunnel

Honestly dont have much to say as im not super familiar with game. Upon a little research seems like a big part of the game is exploring tunnels throughout C-Island. An underground tunnel theme is not too common (if we even have a stage with one at all) & could maybe utilize a reverse Icicle Mtn layout constantly traveling downwards instead of up (could be a nice call-back i guess to the 1st NES throwback fighter)

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

I’m considering doing a Zoda’s Spaceship stage

 

[darkvortex]

Red Hair and Shirt - Based on Mica

 

[GolisoPower]

Chief Coralcola
Yellow shirt with blue pants and brown hair.

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

Zoda's Spaceship​

While technically there isn't a location for this place, it is heavily implied that the final stages of the first game occurs in Zoda's spaceship. The stage is set up in a way like Momentos which has a multi-leveled stage that slopes up along with three floating platforms that move up and down. The stage itself has an HD quality like Duck Hunt but still retains the coloration seen below:

The background is almost entirely black but the stage does have two stage hazards in the form of bosses. These two bosses retains their sprite appearance but reconstructed to not be a huge mess when blow up to fit Smash's resolution:

Picture	Name	Description
	Zoda	It will appear in the background and will fire it's eyes out which have a slight homing ability. It will also vanish and then cause its arms to reach out to grab opponents for a devastating attack. Defeating this boss will cause Prime Invader Zoda to appear
	Prime Invader Zoda	Appears on either the right side or left side and fires plasma balls across the stage. It will move about while trying to ram into opponents. It will also spew out living creatures who, unlike the source material, floats in the air rather than creeping along the ground. They have homing capabilities.