Super Smash Bros 4 (Wii U/3DS) Topic

[Johnknight1]

I don't understand references, references understand me.

Tbh, I don't know that much about 60s and 70s pop, but you could be right.

Basically if you know the Beatles, the Rolling Stones, and maybe the Yardbirds, Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, or The Who, you get the picture.

I don't mind if chiptunes are slipping into mainstream... it's just that, like I've said before, I find the whole thing kinda ironic.

Kinda like how in Europe for the longest time the Beatles weren't too big, but once they hit America crap hit the fan, and they took over the country.

Man, this thread moves too fast for me sometimes. O.o I'm such a slow typer D:

Type... faster. Hot key everything. Have all possible conversations backlogged in Microsoft Word documents (not gonna lie, I kinda sorta do that!).

 

[Opossum]

I feel like people liking Fat Man's post means it was some sort of reference that they got, which makes me think Dinty Moore Beef Stew is not an actual suggestion.

Or maybe they are just big fans of Dinty Moore Beef Stew.

Maybe that post gave them nostalgia of their mothers preparing for them Dinty Moore Beef Stew in their childhood.

It's actually pretty good, it just looks like and has the consistency of dog food.

 

[lobotheduck21]

And I'm very busy this summer, but I'm doing fine. Thanks for asking. How about you?

Fine, but bored out of my mind, I've got nothing to do this summer, I seriously need to get a job or something

 

[Oasis_S]

Has anyone caught a Scorpion yet.

They're giving me more trouble than the char.

 

[Bowserlick]

I think I will make some Norwegian Rhubarb Soup this week. The Rhubarb is waiting to be plucked from the garden. Mmmmm.

 

[LiteralGrill]

I'm doing some soup thingy tomorrow I think. I got no idea, my wife feeds me healthy and I eat. Thankfully she's an AMAZING cook!

 

[Gargaglione]

Has anyone caught a Scorpion yet.

They're giving me more trouble than the char.

No,
but aren't chars only obtainable in June?

 

[lobotheduck21]

Basically if you know the Beatles, the Rolling Stones, and maybe the Yardbirds, Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, or The Who, you get the picture.

I would love a game that the sound track would include these, and elvis and buddy holly

 

[Croph]

Type... faster. Hot key everything. Have all possible conversations backlogged in Microsoft Word documents (not gonna lie, I kinda sorta do that!).

Haha, hot key everything. I already do that for TF2. And it's funny you mentioned backlogging conversations in Word as I do have a couple stored already. But, y'know, I kinda need for there to be the right conversation to post 'em. :B

Oh, but on the topic of soup: some of my faves are carrot, broccoli, and potato. They're kinda plain, but I do like bland things. But I do make a mean potato soup that I wouldn't mind making for everyone here... sucks that it's practically impossible though lol.

 

[Johnknight1]

Haha, hot key everything. I already do that for TF2. And it's funny you mentioned backlogging conversations in Word as I do have a couple stored already. But, y'know, I kinda need for there to be the right conversation to post 'em. :B

I bet you do, as does every of your fellow TF2 players, including me.

And I don't have conversations back logged per say, but rather, my opinions on this. That's why I'm able to write such long posts so easily.

Also, whenever I am posting something here, I am doing something else. Like while writing this out, I was texting my younger brother, my friend, and my girlfriend.

And during my time posting before Evo and ever since Evo ending, I was doing homework while posting.

I would love a game that the sound track would include these, and elvis and buddy holly

...Rock Band: The Beatles + Rock Band 3...???... (almost)

 

[Rebellious Treecko]

Well sheet, I missed the CWC conversation.

 

[Moon Monkey]

Nah, Sakurai I think is his own boss. His company is more or less just him, and he literally controls one of Nintendo's 3 biggest money making IP's on home consoles (the other 2 being Mario Kart and canon Mario games). If Nintendo does to him what they did 10 years ago, he's gone. Heck, Sony would be wise to throw millions of dollars his way to make PlayStation All-Stars 2 Superstars. We call that "negotiating power."
To an extent. If they are holding back the game, he will stop pushing. He seems to have a bit more of confidence when it comes to such things. After how well Brawl sold (about 11 million copies), Nintendo knows he is an important asset who literally can sell millions of consoles with one game alone.

There is no doubt that Smash Bros. is Sakurai's baby. I'm so grateful he decided to make Brawl/SSB4. Didn't Iwata say the most they were going to do for a Smash installment on Wii was make Melee with online? (Come to think of it that wasn't that bad of an idea ) All this may be true, but given the nature of the type of game Sakurai has created, he has to deal with a lot of copyright and legal things to get characters into smash even first party. So, he essentially must go through what Disney had to go through for Wreck-It-Ralph with Nintendo, every time he makes a Smash game.

Well Rockstar is trying to just use the max versions of current consoles, and to get the largest consumer base. As it stands right now, the WiiU owners will be around 10 million at the end of the year, with maybe like 10% of them interested in getting GTA V for the WiiU (even less for MGS V). I can see why both those games will be held back until more people own a WiiU.

You bring up a good point, which really hinders Nintendo's 3rd party support. Many 3rd party companies believe that Wii U owners Nintendo system owners in general aren't interested in their games. Nintendo has been trying to undo this, by trying to cater to the "hardcore" with the Wii U. Most fans can't be interested in these games if they don't first become available on these systems. I remember reading multiple reports that Reggie was trying to get GTA V on the Wii U (Which doesn't seem to be working out)

Like I said earlier, scale down what is being processed and maybe some of the graphics, and the WiiU could be good. However, in order to be able to do that, Konami needs to know that the WiiU has enough owners to warrant such a port, as well as a good number of people willing to buy MGS V

And yeah, I keep suggesting to Nintendo to do what they did with DK64 (upgrade that thing). At least do 4-6GB. Heck, a 8GB WiiU processor would do wonders for Nintendo. Could you imagine what that could do for the console=??? Honestly, I think the somewhat lackluster processing is why we won't see 6 player smash this gen.

This again ties into Nintendo and their bad image of as a bad platform for their games. This also is all in Nintendo's court, they are trying to get the user base to increase so that companies see that Nintendo has a viable consumer pool. But Konami or any other company won't know if Wii U owners are interested in their game until they ask. I mean Twin Snakes did do pretty well on the GameCube It's gonna be interesting to see how Watch Dogs, Batman Arkham: Origins do this fall Assassin's Creed 4.
Jeez, 4 is already hectic, but 6? 6!? Lol! That would be intense! But yeah I agree. This is one of those situations where that "Baller on a Budget" mentality i was talking about becomes a real issue. If Nintendo did some thinking about the long term.They would of pumped more power into the Wii U. Which is what the system could of benefited from being release this summer along with a better launch line up

 

[Oasis_S]

No,
but aren't chars only obtainable in June?

Well I mean, when I was trying to catch a char last month, they gave me a lot of trouble. They're a real BULL**** fish, you know? Every guide will tell you that they're found in waterfall ponds, like in previous games. NOT TRUE. Found mine in the last stretch of the river BEFORE the waterfall.

 

[Mr. OC]

Well sheet, I missed the CWC conversation.

There's always next time.

 

[lobotheduck21]

...Rock Band: The Beatles + Rock Band 3...???... (almost)

Well obviously, but I ment like an rpg or platformer, where those songs are part of the sound track

 

[Moon Monkey]

Personally, I'd prefer if they were endorsed by Supa Hot Fire
and the tag line would be: Sike! That's The Wrong Pastry!

LOL!
You one funny n!gga Mr.Universe.

 

[Gargaglione]

Well I mean, when I was trying to catch a char last month, they gave me a lot of trouble. They're a real BULL**** fish, you know? Every guide will tell you that they're found in waterfall ponds, like in previous games. NOT TRUE. Found mine in the last stretch of the river BEFORE the waterfall.

I actually never caught a char.
When July came around, someone told me about the fish that were exclusive to June, and I found out that ship has sailed.
I refuse to time-travel, so I won't be catching a char anytime soon.

 

[lobotheduck21]

That dream episode of mash, mother of god

 

[Gargaglione]

btw, any of you people in Europe own Mario and Luigi Cream Team?

I wanna know how good it is in relation to SS, PiT, and BiS to decide whether I should get it.

 

[Rebellious Treecko]

btw, any of you people in Europe own Mario and Luigi Cream Team?

I wanna know how good it is in relation to SS, PiT, and BiS to decide whether I should get it.

Ew?

 

[Fastblade5035]

Ew?

That's not the only kind of cream these brothers make...

 

[Gargaglione]

Ew?

 

[Moon Monkey]

btw, any of you people in Europe own Mario and Luigi Cream Team?

I wanna know how good it is in relation to SS, PiT, and BiS to decide whether I should get it.

Sounds like a RPG porno...

Lord knows what the Mushroom and Tanooki Suit do in that game..

 

[Metal Overlord]

Sounds like a RPG porno...

looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

 

[Gargaglione]

That's not the only kind of cream these brothers make...

 

[Fastblade5035]

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[Johnknight1]

There is no doubt that Smash Bros. is Sakurai's baby. I'm so grateful he decided to make Brawl/SSB4. Didn't Iwata say the most they were going to do for a Smash installment on Wii was make Melee with online? (Come to think of it that wasn't that bad of an idea ) All this may be true, but given the nature of the type of game Sakurai has created, he has to deal with a lot of copyright and legal things to get characters into smash even first party. So, he essentially must go through what Disney had to go through for Wreck-It-Ralph with Nintendo, every time he makes a Smash game.

Not really, because unlike Wreck-It-Ralph, everything (aside from like 1-5 guests we may get) is totally owned by Nintendo. I just think Nintendo's management style has/is outdated of its' IP's because it has so many.

You bring up a good point, which really hinders Nintendo's 3rd party support. Many 3rd party companies believe that Wii U owners Nintendo system owners in general aren't interested in their games. Nintendo has been trying to undo this, by trying to cater to the "hardcore" with the Wii U. Most fans can't be interested in these games if they don't first become available on these systems. I remember reading multiple reports that Reggie was trying to get GTA V on the Wii U (Which doesn't seem to be working out)

Well many long-time Nintendo console buyers only buy Nintendo games, which is kind of sad. I know I own about 9 Wii games that aren't made by Nintendo, whereas the average Wii owner maybe has 3. The only 3rd party games that sold well on the Wii were party games, "exercise" games, gimmicky games, and platformers, really. Oh, and the Conduit.

As for trying to get 3rd party companies, I think many 3rd party companies are waiting to see how other 3rd party games do. Once there is one "success" story (other than ZombiU kidnda sorta), expect there to be man. Oh, and GTA V on the WiiU would be freaking fantastic.

This again ties into Nintendo and their bad image of as a bad platform for their games. This also is all in Nintendo's court, they are trying to get the user base to increase so that companies see that Nintendo has a viable consumer pool. But Konami or any other company won't know if Wii U owners are interested in their game until they ask. I mean Twin Snakes did do pretty well on the GameCube It's gonna be interesting to see how Watch Dogs, Batman Arkham: Origins do this fall Assassin's Creed 4.

Watch Dogs looks prime made for the WiiU, and from what I hear, Assassin's Creed III did quite well on the WiiU.

Jeez, 4 is already hectic, but 6? 6!? Lol! That would be intense! But yeah I agree. This is one of those situations where that "Baller on a Budget mentality i was talking about becomes a real issue. If Nintendo did some thinking about the long term. They would of pumped more power into the Wii U. Which is what the system could of benefited from being release this summer along with a better launch line up

Smash is eventually gonna have 6 player multiplayer; it just won't be this time around. Next time around when Nintendo's home console (the WiiUWii) has like 12GB of RAM (hopefully at least that), it should happen, because they'll have the hardware to be able to support it.

 

[Curious Villager]

btw, any of you people in Europe own Mario and Luigi Cream Team?

I wanna know how good it is in relation to SS, PiT, and BiS to decide whether I should get it.

I don't own Mario and Luigi Cream Team but I do own Mario and Luigi Dream Team Bros and I can tell you that I really enjoyed that game. The humor is great, the pace is fun and there is lots of references and characters from previous games such as Starlow, Sergant Guy, Corporal Paraplonk and Private Goomp from Bowsers Inside Story, Popple from Super Star Saga and Kylie Koopa from Partners in Time all make a return to name a few.

The 3DS features are also very fun to use, the gyro controls may get a little used to but their good once you get the hang of it. The 3D is also very greatly implemented and the story is long enough to be enjoyed for a good while. The Giant Luigi battles were very epic battles, then again, I guess I enjoy these types of battles in general as I also enjoyed the Giant Bowser battles in Bowser's Inside Story too.

Though mind that I haven't played Partners in Time yet but I personally thought it was just as good as its predecessors in my opinion.

 

[Gargaglione]

Smash is eventually gonna have 6 player multiplayer; it just won't be this time around. Next time around when Nintendo's home console (the WiiUWii) has like 12GB of RAM (hopefully at least that), it should happen, because they'll have the hardware to be able to support it.

I gotta agree with Moon Monkey on this one, it's too hectic.
4-player's good enough.

It would really benefit home-console Mariokarts to have more than 4-players for multiplayer though (actually, nevermind, online's good enough. Splitting the screen into anything more than 4 would be awful)

 

[Johnknight1]

I gotta agree with Moon Monkey on this one, it's too hectic.
4-player's good enough.

It would really benefit home-console Mariokarts to have more than 4-players for multiplayer though (actually, nevermind, online's good enough. Splitting the screen into anything more than 4 would be awful)

Smash 6 players could be done on one console easily next generation, or online. And it wouldn't be too hectic, because there is no such thing as a too hectic thing. Besides, actual 3D fast paced shooters and other such games have 3 vs. 3's, 4 vs. 4's, and heck, up to 32 vs. 32 online/competitive games somewhat often.

Plus 2 vs. 2 vs. 2, 1 vs. 2 vs. 3, 2 vs. 3, 1 vs. 1 vs. 1 vs. 2, 1 vs. 1 vs. 1 vs. 1 vs. 2, etc. friendlies would be awesome.

Also tournament (and friendlies) of 3 vs. 3 would be the sickest thing ever.

btw, any of you people in Europe own Mario and LuigiCream Team?

Who put that dumb rabbit in that Mario game=???

 

[Gargaglione]

I don't own Mario and Luigi Cream Team but I do own Mario and Luigi Dream Team Bros and I can tell you that I really enjoyed that game. The humor is great the pace is fun and there is lots of references and characters from previous games such as Starlow, Sergant Guy, Corporal Paraplonk and Private Goomp from Bowsers Inside Story, Popple from Super Star Saga and Kylie Koopa from Partners in Time all make a return to name a few.

The 3DS features are also very fun to use, the gyro controls may get a little used to but their good once you get the hang of it. The 3D is also very greatly implemented and the story is long enough to be enjoyed for a good while.

Though mind that I haven't played Partners in Time yet but I personally thought it was just as good as its predecessors in my opinion.

Awesome.
I read a few reviews, some say it's weaker than the past two, and others say it's as good.
I usually find fellow gamers' genuine opinions to be more trustworthy.

Also, I'm just not a fan of number ratings. They leave far too much room for ambiguity.

 

[Mr.Universe]

Smash 6 players could be done on one console easily next generation, or online. And it wouldn't be too hectic, because there is no such thing as a too hectic thing. Besides, actual 3D fast paced shooters and other such games have 3 vs. 3's, 4 vs. 4's, and heck, up to 32 vs. 32 online/competitive games somewhat often.

Plus 2 vs. 2 vs. 2, 1 vs. 2 vs. 3, 2 vs. 3, 1 vs. 1 vs. 1 vs. 2, 1 vs. 1 vs. 1 vs. 1 vs. 2, etc. friendlies would be awesome.

Also tournament (and friendlies) of 3 vs. 3 would be the sickest thing ever.

I apologize for how my brain works, but when you mentioned 32 vs 32 online games, I just thought of a Smash MMORPG.

I can't tell if this is genius or my worst idea ever(Probably the latter). I should find some other games to hype over.

 

[Gargaglione]

Smash 6 players could be done on one console easily next generation, or online. And it wouldn't be too hectic, because there is no such thing as a too hectic thing. Besides, actual 3D fast paced shooters and other such games have 3 vs. 3's, 4 vs. 4's, and heck, up to 32 vs. 32 online/competitive games somewhat often.

Plus 2 vs. 2 vs. 2, 1 vs. 2 vs. 3, 2 vs. 3, 1 vs. 1 vs. 1 vs. 2, 1 vs. 1 vs. 1 vs. 1 vs. 2, etc. friendlies would be awesome.

Also tournament (and friendlies) of 3 vs. 3 would be the sickest thing ever.

I see your point, but only larger stages designed for 6-players will benefit from it.
Stages from past games, or staple stages (Final Destination, Battlefield) will suffer because they're not meant for such a large crowd.

 

[Moon Monkey]

Not really, because unlike Wreck-It-Ralph, everything (aside from like 1-5 guests we may get) is totally owned by Nintendo. I just think Nintendo's management style has/is outdated of its' IP's because it has so many.

Even so, 1st/2nd party titles have certain quirks and designs that must be approved by the character's creators/ Nintendo's head honchos/Game Freak.

Well many long-time Nintendo console buyers only buy Nintendo games, which is kind of sad. I know I own about 9 Wii games that aren't made by Nintendo, whereas the average Wii owner maybe has 3. The only 3rd party games that sold well on the Wii were party games, "exercise" games, gimmicky games, and platformers, really. Oh, and the Conduit.

It is sad. I just wish that the platform was given the the chance to support such titles has Battlefield 4 and Crysis 3. Nintendo would be even more lethal if it had killer 1st party and 3rd party to round out it's library.
Oh word!? You had the Conduit too?

As for trying to get 3rd party companies, I think many 3rd party companies are waiting to see how other 3rd party games do. Once there is one "success" story (other than ZombiU kidnda sorta), expect there to be man. Oh, and GTA V on the WiiU would be freaking fantastic.

Yeah and potentential Wii U owners and developers are stuck in this weird limbo. Gamers don't want to purchase the Wii U until more games for the system arrives and, developers don't want to make games for the system until the user base increases

Watch Dogs looks prime made for the WiiU, and from what I hear, Assassin's Creed III did quite well on the WiiU.

I already per-ordered Batman: Origins and Watch Dogs for the Wii U. Hopefully if enough people support it, things will start to pick up for the Wii U

Smash is eventually gonna have 6 player multiplayer; it just won't be this time around. Next time around when Nintendo's home console (the WiiUWii) has like 12GB of RAM (hopefully at least that), it should happen, because they'll have the hardware to be able to support it.

That is gonna be crazy. I can maybe see 5 player interaction where 4 players fighter while one person the gamepad (if it is around for the next system) interacts with the stage to mess up players. LOL! I hope they don't stick with the Wii naming conventions I would hate to walk into a store and request the Wii U Them Us. But they should definitely future proof their console for the incoming generation, and provide a decent launch line-up

 

[Curious Villager]

Awesome.
I read a few reviews, some say it's weaker than the past two, and others say it's as good.
I usually find fellow gamers' genuine opinions to be more trustworthy.

Also, I'm just not a fan of number ratings. They leave far too much room for ambiguity.

Yeah.

Though come to think of it, if I can name one thing I didn't enjoy as much, it may be when you go around saving the P'illo people. I think the puzzles involved in saving them may be a bit on the short and easy side which kinda makes you feel like you may as well get the ability to revive them as soon as you touch them. It doesn't really feel very rewarding and a little rushed is what I mean. But that's just me nitpicking or maybe its because I'm so used to puzzle games like the Professor Layton series where the puzzles in those sections where hardly challenging and feel more like filler in order to lengthen the game a bit but oh well. That's just my opinion really. Besides that, the rest of the game was awesome. ^^

 

[Gargaglione]

Yeah.

Though come to think of it, if I can name one thing I didn't enjoy as much, it may be when you go around saving the P'illo people. I think the puzzles involved in saving them may be a bit on the short and easy side which kinda makes you feel like you may as well get the ability to revive them as soon as you touch them. It doesn't really feel very rewarding and a little rushed is what I mean. But that's just me nitpicking or maybe its because I'm so used to puzzle games like the Professor Layton series where the puzzles in those sections where hardly challenging and feel more like filler in order to lengthen the game a bit but oh well. That's just my opinion really. Besides that, the rest of the game was awesome. ^^

Yea, the main thing I gathered from the reviews I read is that the P'illo village is the weaker part of the game.

 

[lobotheduck21]

Guys, I've figured out the secret to Wii U's success

http://www.ign.com/videos/2013/07/15/pokemon-generations-commentary

 

[ihatemath113]

http://community.us.playstation.com...Crash-Bandicoot/td-p/41007839/highlight/false

Oh my god people are actually saying Crash Bandicoot has a chance at getting in and one guy is trying to use Snake as a reason.

ITS GONNA HAPPEN

 

[Fastblade5035]

Guys, I've figured out the secret to Wii U's success

http://www.ign.com/videos/2013/07/15/pokemon-generations-commentary

I'd never play a Pokemon MMO on the Wii U.
Why?
Cause if you get the game other than day one, there will most certainly be some asshole with lv.100 pokemon forcing you to battle right after you leave the first damn town.

 

[Johnknight1]

I apologize for how my brain works, but when you mentioned 32 vs 32 online games, I just thought of a Smash MMORPG.

I can't tell if this is genius or my worst idea ever(Probably the latter). I should find some other games to hype over.

A Smash MMORPG=??? What is that like the next trashy idea to replace the SSE (in terms of awfulness)=???

I see your point, but only larger stages designed for 6-players will benefit from it.
Stages from past games, or staple stages (Final Destination, Battlefield) will suffer because they're not meant for such a large crowd.

You could easily fit 6 on Brawl, Smash WiiU's, or Smash 3DS' Battlefield, and they could all fit comfortably. That isn't even a question.