Super Smash Bros 4 (Wii U/3DS) Topic

[Pyra]

On the topic of Super Mario RPG's...

 

[Rebellious Treecko]

On the topic of Super Mario RPG's...

If only that game wasn't shared by a third-party company.

 

[Fastblade5035]

Oh okay, so it may just be likely we get a stage from Fire Emblem 1 for Marth. Hmm... What game was Castle Siege taken from? Or was it just a generic level meant to represent Fire Emblem on a whole?

Generic, but I think the Black Knight made a cameo in the second level of the stage. Soikealreadyhasastage

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

Paper Mario stages?

Come on guys, 64 and TTYD's Battle Stage.

The 3DS version only has Sticker Star to pull from, but I haven't gotten Sticker Star, so I don't know what.

 

[Robert of Normandy]

On the topic of Super Mario RPG's...

Speaking of overrated garbage....
jk. SMRPG is okay, I just like M&L and PM better.

 

[Pyra]

If only that game wasn't shared by a third-party company.

It's a shame too. I really liked that game.

Paper Mario stages?

Come on guys, 64 and TTYD's Battle Stage.

TTYD's battle stage would be fun.
Dodging things thrown by the audience.

Speaking of overrated garbage....
jk. SMRPG is okay, I just like M&L and PM better.

I don't know. I don't even like SMRPG because of nostalgia because I've never had the game past emulation. I just thought it was great. SIGH.

But I do like PM more as well. Grew up with it.

 

[IsmaR]

I feel incredibly ashamed that as a big M&L fan/aficionado, I'm only just now finding out that Dream Team is a thing. Really need to get a new 3DS.

I'm pretty happy they're using BiS as their inspiration for the new Bowser, at least. Maybe we'll see items/more music from those games.

 

[Gargaglione]

Only RPG Mario games I have yet to play are Partners in Time and Sticker Star.

My favorites though are PM64, PMTTT, and M&L: BIS

 

[Rebellious Treecko]

I feel incredibly ashamed that as a big M&L fan/aficionado, I'm only just now finding out that Dream Team is a thing. Really need to get a new 3DS.

I'm pretty happy they're using BiS as their inspiration for the new Bowser, at least. Maybe we'll see items/more music from those games.

I hope Dream Team has some stuff from Superstar Saga and Partners in Time, like characters and settings that Luigi is remembering and dreaming about. I'd like to battle some surreal nightmare combination of Cackletta and Elder Princess Shroob.

I mainly want characters from SS to reappear in some way, though.
The Beanbean Kingdom hasn't been referenced since Superstar Saga aside from Fawful and the Prince Peasly poster in PiT. Some Partners in Time characters were seen and referenced in Bowser's Inside Story. (Toadbert, Shroobs)

 

[Moon Monkey]

TTYD>64>Super>Sticker

That game was truly disappointing. No point in battling enemies for the sake of leveling up and getting stronger. Stickers are littered all over the place so there is no way to run out and no party members. How disappointing. Here is one instance where change is bad thing. I do like the concept of the sticker combat, but it wasn't executed all too well.

On the Mario & Luigi games. I have never played any of those games, but I hear it plays like Paper Mario to some degree.

 

[Rebellious Treecko]

On the Mario & Luigi games. I have never played any of those games, but I hear it plays like Paper Mario to some degree.

Unlike many turn-based RPGs, you can manually dodge your opponents attacks if you get the timing right. That's one thing that has stayed consistent in the Mario & Luigi series.

Do they have that in Paper Mario? I know about the storylines and various things in the series,but I've never actually played any of the games, so I haven't payed too much attention to the battle system.

From what I've seen of Paper Mario's battle system, Mario can do more damage with his attacks by pressing the attack button at the right time.
You can sorta do that in Mario & Luigi as well, but only if you use jump attacks.

 

[Robert of Normandy]

[Unlike many turn-based RPGs, you can manually dodge your opponents attacks if you get the timing right. That's one thing that has stayed consistent in the Mario & Luigi series.

Do they have that in Paper Mario?

They have something similar, at least in TTYD they do.

 

[Moon Monkey]

Unlike many turn-based RPGs, you can manually dodge your opponents attacks if you get the timing right. That's one thing that has stayed consistent in the Mario & Luigi series.

Do they have that in Paper Mario?

Everything in Paper Mario's combat is based around timing. I don't think you can really dodge attacks, but when pressing A at the right time will cause your Mario and Co. to block reducing damage. Jumping attacks dealt more damage if you pressed A at the right time before hitting enemies. Flicking the analog stick at the right time will also deal more damage for Hammer attacks too.

Pretty sure Paper Mario came first (I'll check). The Paper Mario series was the first of the 2 to introduce the concept of badges for new moves. I know Mario & Luigi uses badges as well but idk how their used.

EDIT: Paper Mario 64 came out 2000.
Mario & Luigi: Super Star Saga came out 2003

 

[Platsy]

TTYD>64>Super>Sticker

That game was truly disappointing. No point in battling enemies for the sake of leveling up and getting stronger. Stickers are littered all over the place so there is no way to run out and no party members. How disappointing. Here is one instance where change is bad thing. I do like the concept of the sticker combat, but it wasn't executed all too well.

On the Mario & Luigi games. I have never played any of those games, but I hear it plays like Paper Mario to some degree.

It doesn't make it any better that Kersti is the new Fi/Navi in my opinion. It's bad enough that she states the obvious half the time, but it's even worse that she spends half of that berating you for whatever.

 

[Gargaglione]

Unlike many turn-based RPGs, you can manually dodge your opponents attacks if you get the timing right. That's one thing that has stayed consistent in the Mario & Luigi series.

Do they have that in Paper Mario? I know about the storylines and various things in the series,but I've never actually played any of the games, so I haven't payed too much attention to the battle system.

From what I've seen of Paper Mario's battle system, Mario can do more damage with his attacks by pressing the attack button at the right time.
You can sorta do that in Mario & Luigi as well, but only if you use jump attacks.

In Paper Mario, if you time the A button right when being attacked, you can decrease the damage you receive from the attack

 

[Gargaglione]

Btw, is Sticker Star worth playing? I've heard people say it's actually fun, despite the bad changes.

 

[Pyra]

Btw, is Sticker Star worth playing? I've heard people say it's actually fun, despite the bad changes.

It is fun usually, but I've never actually beaten it.
I rage quit.
I got to the very final part of the final boss and ran out of stickers.
Which left me as a sitting duck.

TTYD>64>Super>Sticker

That game was truly disappointing. No point in battling enemies for the sake of leveling up and getting stronger. Stickers are littered all over the place so there is no way to run out and no party members. How disappointing. Here is one instance where change is bad thing. I do like the concept of the sticker combat, but it wasn't executed all too well.

On the Mario & Luigi games. I have never played any of those games, but I hear it plays like Paper Mario to some degree.

Agreed on everything except for the order (and I've played all the M&L games thus far)
For me it's 64>TTYD>Super>Sticker.

The first two are really close though.

 

[Moon Monkey]

Btw, is Sticker Star worth playing? I've heard people say it's actually fun, despite the bad changes.

Eh, I wouldn't recommend it. Cons: It's a really dumbed down RPG (If you can call it that) and bare bones. Pros: The game is humorous (Not as funny as the past games, but it has its moments) and the puzzles are challenging.

I would recommend watching a couple episodes of Let's Plays on YT to decide if you'll like it or not.

 

[O'kaz A1]

Am I the only one who's not playing Paper Mario?

Spoiler

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[Pyra]

Eh, I wouldn't recommend it. Cons: It's a really dumbed down RPG (If you can call it that) and bare bones. Pros: The game is humorous (Not as funny as the past games, but it has its moments) and the puzzles are challenging. I would recommend watching a couple episodes of Let's Plays on YT to decide if you'll like it or not.

The game would be MUCH better if the battle system wasn't completely dependent on stickers.
RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE

 

[Rebellious Treecko]

The game would be MUCH better if the battle system wasn't completely dependent on stickers.
RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE

Speaking of stickers, I never used the stickers in the Subspace Emissary.
I'm pretty picky about "wasting" things.

 

[Moon Monkey]

It is fun usually, but I've never actually beaten it.
Agreed on everything except for the order (and I've played all the M&L games thus far)
For me it's 64>TTYD>Super>Sticker.

The first two are really close though.

That was the hardest part for me deciding 64 or TTYD. There both good in their own right. Though 64 has this nice charm to it that I don't see in TTYD. I was very close to saying TTYD = 64 > Super> Sticker.

The game would be MUCH better if the battle system wasn't completely dependent on stickers.
RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE.

I missed the partners.

 

[Curious Villager]

Speaking of stickers, I never used the stickers in the Subspace Emissary.
I'm pretty picky about "wasting" things.

Who did?

No seriously, who did?

 

[Pyra]

Speaking of stickers, I never used the stickers in the Subspace Emissary.
I'm pretty picky about "wasting" things.

We are alike in that regard, my friend.

That was the hardest part for me deciding 64 or TTYD. There both good in their own right. Though 64 has this nice charm to it that I don't see in TTYD. I was very close to saying TTYD = 64 > Super> Sticker.

TTYD is definitely more fleshed out, but 64 had the charm, yes.
I hope, if they make another PM, that it's more similar to either of the first two games than SS or SPM.
Hell, I may even accept a SPM sequel (in that it's a platformer RPG) because I did like SPM a lot too. Just not as much as the first two.

 

[Moon Monkey]

Even though I like Paper Mario a lot, I personally wouldn't want Paper Mario in SSB4.

 

[Pyra]

Even though I like Paper Mario a lot, I personally wouldn't want Paper Mario in SSB4.

I wouldn't mind if he was a character, and I used to exclusively want him as a character even, but then I became more sensible.
I want a PM stage or assist trophy. I'll be happy then.

 

[Gargaglione]

Eh, I wouldn't recommend it. Cons: It's a really dumbed down RPG (If you can call it that) and bare bones. Pros: The game is humorous (Not as funny as the past games, but it has its moments) and the puzzles are challenging.

I would recommend watching a couple episodes of Let's Plays on YT to decide if you'll like it or not.

Dang, that's a shame. I won't pay 35 dollars for it then, but I'll play it if I ever get a chance.

 

[Jedisupersonic]

I wouldn't mind if he was a character, and I used to exclusively want him as a character even, but then I became more sensible.
I want a PM stage or assist trophy. I'll be happy then.

I want some PM64 or TTYD music at the very least. Super Paper also had some good tracks.

 

[Pyra]

Dang, that's a shame. I won't pay 35 dollars for it then, but I'll play it if I ever get a chance.

They DID do well on the 3D effect of the game.
Ironically.

 

[Gargaglione]

We are alike in that regard, my friend.


TTYD is definitely more fleshed out, but 64 had the charm, yes.

Well, charm is entirely subjective. I found The Thousand Year Door to be very charming too.
I like both TTYD and 64 equally though.

 

[Gargaglione]

Even though I like Paper Mario a lot, I personally wouldn't want Paper Mario in SSB4.

Goombario or Goombella would be a cool assist trophy though

 

[Pyra]

Well, charm is entirely subjective. I found The Thousand Year Door to be very charming too.
I like both TTYD and 64 equally though.

It did have charm, I'm not denying that.
I found N64 better at it though. That's just me.

Both games were hilarious in their own right.

Goombario or Goombella would be a cool assist trophy though

I was thinking that they could just say something interesting about either the stage or the people fighting.

 

[Moon Monkey]

I wouldn't mind if he was a character, and I used to exclusively want him as a character even, but then I became more sensible.
I want a PM stage or assist trophy. I'll be happy then.

I don't see a Paper Mario stage happening the same way I don't see a Mario Vs Donkey Kong Minis stage happening, but who knows. I don't mind him being an ALT costume for G&W, having reskins of all of his moves in the Paper Mario theme or an Assist Trophy. I will say they will be missing a great opportunity if they don't make Paper Mario a sticker for story mode (if they are still using stickers) I personally hoping for character specific Adventure Mode like Melee, rather than SSE 2.

Dang, that's a shame. I won't pay 35 dollars for it then, but I'll play it if I ever get a chance.

Yeah, if your really interested watch the Let's Play or a walkthrough.

 

[Gargaglione]

It did have charm, I'm not denying that.
I found N64 better at it though. That's just me.

Yea, the N64 one is cuter, I will say that. The little whistling song in the intro screen gets me every time Embarrass

 

[O'kaz A1]

Not to be rude, but what makes Paper Mario better then Mario & Luigi RPG series?

 

[Gargaglione]

Yeah, if your really interested watch the Let's Play or a walkthrough.

Nah, I've rather play something than watch a walkthrough. If anything, I'll borrow it.

 

[Moon Monkey]

Not to be rude, but what makes Paper Mario better then Mario & Luigi RPG series?

I wouldn't say better, they both have their unique quirks. You would have to play a bit of both to decide which one is better to you.

I have never played a Mario and Luigi game, so I guess I like Paper Mario by default.

 

[Pyra]

I don't see a Paper Mario stage happening the same way I don't see a Mario Vs Donkey Kong stage happening, but who knows. I don't mind him being an ALT costume for G&W, having reskins of all of his moves in the Paper Mario theme or an Assist Trophy

There are so many possibilities for a PM stage though

Spoiler

Etc. Etc.

 

[Gargaglione]

Not to be rude, but what makes Paper Mario better then Mario & Luigi RPG series?

she does.

actually, though I think the Mario and Luigi series is just as good. It's just personal preference, really.

 

[Jedisupersonic]

Not to be rude, but what makes Paper Mario better then Mario & Luigi RPG series?

It's an apples and oranges thing. Not really a "which is better" thing.