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Holder of the Heel

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I remember a few years ago someone told me "just wait until people find out the purple Pikmin and forward smash are broken." I heard that from a lot of places actually. A lot of people who didn't play Olimar much speculated that C-stick to the left or right + purple Pikmin = win, but it took the Olimar mains forever to catch on they were serious! :laugh:
Definitely, and sometimes when people try to recover blow the stage I just sacrifice my Pikmin by dumping them on the player by forward smashing haha. And with the white Pikmin at early percentages I think you can land two forward smashes in a row basically in a second. :laugh: I find his Smashes satisfying in general.

Still too far out. This game is calling you.
FINE! *two seconds later* Welp I got it, that was fast. :laugh:

Link is awful to play as. All of his specials are inferior to Toon Link, and he's so slow for such a supposedly athletic character.

That's the reason I don't enjoy it. I feel so bogged down somehow when playing him. I can see why when I played a really good Link in that tournament he had no intention of being anywhere near my Olimar and just spammed boomerangs, bombs, and arrows like crazy. Strange thing was, it almost worked, because damage inevitably gets accumulated. But he lost because when I got inside his bubble, he was mine. I don't know match ups well, but that's just how it ended up happening.
 

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That's the reason I don't enjoy it. I feel so bogged down somehow when playing him. I can see why when I played a really good Link in that tournament he had no intention of being anywhere near my Olimar and just spammed boomerangs, bombs, and arrows like crazy. Strange thing was, it almost worked, because damage inevitably gets accumulated. But he lost because when I got inside his bubble, he was mine. I don't know match ups well, but that's just how it ended up happening.
Olimar is a Link's nightmare.
Olimar out-spams
Olimar spams faster
Olimar ***** slaps Link around with aerials
Olimar's Pikmin > Arrows

I'd say the matchup is about -3 for Link. A good Link can spam forever and use good DI to last longer, but Olimar can just edgehog if that ever occurs. And like you said, once Olimar gets in, Link's done.

Link is a pain and horrible to play as, but he's one of the few I can actually get right, so I stick with him. That, and The Legend of Zelda made me what I am today, and such.
Then again, I have a tendency for liking mid/low tier characters MUCH more than high.
(Ex. I HATE Fox in Melee, but I like playing as Roy sometimes.)
 

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Toon Link > Link. This should be obvious.
Also Wario is so damn fun to play as. I just started using him a couple weeks ago.
 

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Olimar is a Link's nightmare.
Olimar out-spams
Olimar spams faster
Olimar ***** slaps Link around with aerials
Olimar's Pikmin > Arrows

I'd say the matchup is about -3 for Link. A good Link can spam forever and use good DI to last longer, but Olimar can just edgehog if that ever occurs. And like you said, once Olimar gets in, Link's done.

Link is a pain and horrible to play as, but he's one of the few I can actually get right, so I stick with him. That, and The Legend of Zelda made me what I am today, and such.
Then again, I have a tendency for liking mid/low tier characters MUCH more than high.
(Ex. I HATE Fox in Melee, but I like playing as Roy sometimes.)

Thank you for the information. :chuckle:

Toon Link > Link. This should be obvious.
And it is.
 

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Of course he's superior. Mega kawaiiiii powers.
 

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Definitely, and sometimes when people try to recover blow the stage I just sacrifice my Pikmin by dumping them on the player by forward smashing haha. And with the white Pikmin at early percentages I think you can land two forward smashes in a row basically in a second. :laugh: I find his Smashes satisfying in general.
Yeah, freaking Olimar just using the C-stick is pretty good with good timing, spacing, and defense.
FINE! *two seconds later* Welp I got it, that was fast. :laugh:
Wait until you get to the Blue Blue Cult (it's a spoof on the KKK and I think Scientology) and Threed. I'm not gonna spoil Threed, but what happens there is pretty awesome.
That's the reason I don't enjoy it. I feel so bogged down somehow when playing him. I can see why when I played a really good Link in that tournament he had no intention of being anywhere near my Olimar and just spammed boomerangs, bombs, and arrows like crazy. Strange thing was, it almost worked, because damage inevitably gets accumulated. But he lost because when I got inside his bubble, he was mine. I don't know match ups well, but that's just how it ended up happening.
Link's just too slow. He's as sluggish as Ganondorf should be, and he plays like he weighs 250 lbs when he probably weighs about 170 lbs.
Also Wario is so damn fun to play as. I just started using him a couple weeks ago.
Wario in Brawl is fun; Wario in Project M will never get boring. THAT SHOULDER BASH!!! :eek:
 

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That trailer was okay; the music was a little weird, and I felt he should have used a different song. The ending was pretty great, though. I always loved that Mega Man X clip.

The freaking now outdated Fire Emblem character and Ghirahim were totally terrible choices, and they should have gone with K. Rool and Ridley instead. :shades:
 

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The freaking now outdated Fire Emblem character and Ghirahim were totally terrible choices, and they should have gone with K. Rool and Ridley instead. :shades:

It's freakin' DragonSniperNintendo, John. You can't reason with him about his waifu. :troll:
 

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The freaking now outdated Fire Emblem character and Ghirahim were totally terrible choices, and they should have gone with K. Rool and Ridley instead. :shades:
K. Rool swallows the sweet waifu Michaiah whole and Ridley rips Ghirahim into little diamond shreds. End of story. :troll:
 

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I don't think it's going to happen, but Ghirahim in the E3 trailer would make me laugh my ass off.

Also, Pokey is hilariously useless in fights at the start of the game. :laugh: He apologizes profusely, uses Ness as a shield, pretends to be dead or pretends to cry. XD Thanks Pokey...
 

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K. Rool swallows the sweet waifu Michaiah whole and Ridley rips Ghirahim into little diamond shreds. End of story. :troll:

And that would be the best Smash 4 trailer of all time.
 

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This image popped up showing a Best Buy poster listing the 4 games to be available as demos. It hasn't been confirmed/denied yet so take some salt.

If real, it does sound very realistic and I wouldn't mind if that is what I got to play. How 'bout you?
 

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That's pretty believable. I doubt that's going to be all of them, since they're obviously under a NDA for games like Smash 4, though.
 

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Wishful thinking wanted the Mario game to be the 3D one but that makes the most sense. Playing Pikmin 3 alone really is enough. And seeing for myself what Wonderful 101 is like. The other two are neat but meh.
 

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I got some SSB information to share with you guys. Not allowed to clarify where I obtained this information but I can promise you that it is 100% true.
-The game's title will be NEW Super Smash Bros.
-They oped out of the more detailed Charter models of Melee and Brawl in favor of a more simplified cel shaded look.
-The Characters in the trailer were Mario, Link, Samus, Pit, Fox, Captain Falcon and 2 Newcomers. Waddle Dee and Mii.
-The 3DS version will be more of a Power Stone 3D arena fighter while the Wii U will be traditional Smash Bros fare.
-New Items were the Tanooki Leaf, Balloon Bomb "From Return to Dreamland", Thunderbolt and Metal Cage which you can throw at a player and they'll become trapped and have to break out.
-Stages included Doomship, a stage based around Mii, Cookie Country from Return to Dreamland, Unova, and Nintendogs Park.
-New moves include the ability to walk while crouching, Mario has a new hammer attack, Link uses a Whip, Kirby has a super suck attack, Waddle Dee uses spears and shoots beams and Mii has a variety of attacks.
-No more Assist Trophies. Instead there will be Callouts. You'll have a gage that fills up and once it does you'll be able to get assistance from a NPC. For example Kirby get's assistance from Prince Fluff and Samus gets assistance from Anthony Higgs. They will be invincible similar to the Pokemon that come out of the Pokeballs.
That is all for now but if you guys want any other information feel free to ask.
 

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Get that text-block lie out of here, please.

:frown:
 

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I got some SSB information to share with you guys. Not allowed to clarify where I obtained this information but I can promise you that it is 100% true.
-The game's title will be NEW Super Smash Bros.
-They oped out of the more detailed Charter models of Melee and Brawl in favor of a more simplified cel shaded look.
-The Characters in the trailer were Mario, Link, Samus, Pit, Fox, Captain Falcon and 2 Newcomers. Waddle Dee and Mii.
-The 3DS version will be more of a Power Stone 3D arena fighter while the Wii U will be traditional Smash Bros fare.
-New Items were the Tanooki Leaf, Balloon Bomb "From Return to Dreamland", Thunderbolt and Metal Cage which you can throw at a player and they'll become trapped and have to break out.
-Stages included Doomship, a stage based around Mii, Cookie Country from Return to Dreamland, Unova, and Nintendogs Park.
-New moves include the ability to walk while crouching, Mario has a new hammer attack, Link uses a Whip, Kirby has a super suck attack, Waddle Dee uses spears and shoots beams and Mii has a variety of attacks.
-No more Assist Trophies. Instead there will be Callouts. You'll have a gage that fills up and once it does you'll be able to get assistance from a NPC. For example Kirby get's assistance from Prince Fluff and Samus gets assistance from Anthony Higgs. They will be invincible similar to the Pokemon that come out of the Pokeballs.
That is all for now but if you guys want any other information feel free to ask.

 

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Wait a minute.

"New moves include the ability to walk while crouching" Uhhh...

It's called crawling, and it's literally in Brawl. That might be the poorest attempt at a troll leak I've ever seen.
 

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Gotta love how ppl are trying to get credit from fake rumors while we only have less than 3 days to wait. Just sitting around and be chill, laugh at much of the ridiculous rumor spreaders.
 

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Geno is in the roster. My third cousin twice removed on my mothers side told me. He works at Nintendo AND Square
 

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My pet dolphin works at Insomniac, and he can confirm that the next Super Smash Bros.game will be a dating simulator where you have to win over Wario's love.
 

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It's freakin' DragonSniperNintendo, John. You can't reason with him about his waifu. :troll:
Sounds like someone will never get a girlfriend... :troll:
K. Rool swallows the sweet waifu Michaiah whole and Ridley rips Ghirahim into little diamond shreds. End of story. :troll:
I like where this story is going. Please continue my smash brother who is now serving as my smashertainment. :grin:
 

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Someone's been on the bad side of the internet if they are thinking about monsters swallowing girls whole
 
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