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Personally, I'd find Bayonetta more exciting from a gameplay standpoint. Still, Megaman will always be a better pick than Pacman.
I guess it's one of those things where I have no investment in the character, and just think they wouldn't belong in there before Mega Man, who I more equate to Nintendo by far. It's sort of similar to Snake, but I guess I have much more investment in Snake's character, so that didn't bother me.

Not that it really means much if this rumor turns out to be true. It could happen.
 

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Had to resend this >.<

Where the votes are coming from:
46% Reddit
21% Kwiksurveys
16% Smashboards
10% Neogaf
Everything else is 1% or lower

What parts of the world are voting?
356 USA
46 Canada
21 UK
11 Australia
5 Mexico
5 Netherlands
4 Brazil
4 France
3 Switzerland
3 Spain
3 Sweden
2 Denmark
2 Germany
2 Belguim
2 Ireland
1 Portugal
1 Chile
1 Norway
1 Finland
1 India
1 Republic of Korea
1 Jordan
1 Italy
1 Kuwait



Currently at 480 votes: Newcomers

1.Mewtwo 357
2.Megaman 310
3.King K. Rool 263
4.Ridley 261
5.Roy 260
6.Little Mac (Punch Out) 210
7.Bowser Junior 190
8.Banjo & Kazooie 171
9.Isaac (Golden Sun) 170
10.Paper Mario 167
11.Palutena 166
12.Waluigi 164
13.Krystal 161
14.Chrom 153
15.Shulk (Xenoblade) 144
16.Dixie Kong 130
17.2nd Sonic Character (Tails, Shadow, Knuckles) 127
18.Samurai Goroh 128
19.Black Shadow 126
20.Bomberman 119
21.Toad 113
22.Doctor Mario 112
23.Dark Samus 109
24.Kingdom Hearts (Sora) 108
25.Rayman 106
26.King Boo 104
27.Pac-Man 104
28.Sixth Gen Pokemon 103
29.Lyn 102
30.Crono Trigger (Crono) 102
31.Mii (Wii Series) 101
32.Super Mario RPG (Geno, Mallow) 101
33.Kamek 93
34.Viewtiful Joe 93
35.Castlevania (Simon Belmont, Alucard, Dracula) 92
36.Pokemon Trainer (Johto) 91
37.Takamaru (The Mysterious Musasame Castle) 91
38.Final Fantasy (Chocobo, Black Mage, Moogle, Cloud, Lightning) 89
39.Tom Nook (Animal Crossing 88
40.Ace Attorney (Phoenix Write) 83
41.Pokemon Trainer (Hoenn) 82
42.Balloon Fighter 82
43.Zoroark 81
44.Bayonetta 79
45.Shy Guy 78
46.Ray MK (Custom Robo) 78
47.Tales Series (Cless/Cress, Lloyd) 78
48.Medusa 77
49.Rosalina 76
50.Eevee (and Eeveelutions) 76
51.Saki (Sin & Punishment) 75
52.No More Hereos (Travis Touchdown) 74
53.Professor Layton 74
54.Claus (Masked Man) 72
55.Pokemon Trainer (Kalos) 71
56.Baby Mario & Luigi 70
57.Porky 70
58.Dark Pit 70
59.Lucina 68
60.Slippy 67
61.Fawful 66
62.Conker's Bad Fur Day (Conker) 66
63.Andy (Advanced Wars) 65
64.Dillon (Rolling Western) 65
65.Pokemon Trainer (Sinnoh) 64
66.Hades 64
67.Scribblenauts (Maxwell) 64
68.K.K Slider (Animal Crossing) 63
69.Deoxys 61
70.Ashley 59
71.Plusle & Minun 59
72.Villager (Animal Crossing) 58
73.Street Fighter (Ryu, Chun Li, M. Bison) 58
74.Pokemon Trainer Villain (Rocket Plasma Galactic Aqua Magma) 58
75.Anna 57
76.2nd Metal Gear Character (Raiden, Gray Fox) 54
77.Funky Kong 54
78.Pokemon Trainer N 54
79.Captain Syrup 53
80.Mona 53
81.Bandana Dee 52
82.Genesect 51
83.Black Knight 51
84.Magnus 51
85.Daisy 49
86.Kat & Ana 49
87.Knuckle Joe 49
88.Pichu 49
89.Robin (FE:A Avatar) 47
90.Alex (Golden Sun) 47
91.Starfy (The Legendary Starfy) 47
92.Baby Bowser 46
93.Meowth 46
94.Prince Fluff 44
95.Jimmy T. 43
96.Poo 43
97.Elite Beat Agents 43
98.Peppy 42
99.Felix (Golden Sun) 42
100.Soul Calibur (Nightmare, Ivy Valentine) 41
101.Darkrai 40
102.Ninja Gaiden (Ryu Hayabusa) 40
103.Yarn Kirby 38
104.Sylux 38
105.Hector 38
106.Captain Rainbow 38
107.Battletoads (Zitz) 38
108.Mew 37
109.Jeff 37
110.Louie (Pikmin) 37
111.Pokemon Champion Cynthia 36
112.Lanky Kong 34
113.Kumatora 34
114.Duck Hunt Dog 34
115.Captain N 33
116.Lip (Panel De Pon) 33
117.Yarn Yoshi 32
118.Viridi 32
119.Blood Falcon 31
120.Ninten 31
121.Mach Rider 31
122.Cranky Kong 30
123.Jill (Drill Dozer) 30
124.Tekken (Heihachi, Jin, Kazuya) 30
125.Giygas 29
126.Paula 29
127.Fiora (Xenoblade) 29
128.Aeron (Pandora's Tower) 28
129.Captain Quartet (Pikmin 3) 25
130.Dragon Quest (Slime) 28
131.Eirika 27
132.Ephraim 27
133.Mike Jones (Star Tropics) 27
134.Leon 26
135.Matthew (Golden Sun) 26
136.Zael (The Last Story) 26
137.Micaiah 25
138.Flint 25
139.Isa Jo (Sin & Punishment) 25
140.Gardevoir 24
141.Victini 24
142.Panther 24
143.Eggplant Wizard 24
144.Sukapon (Joy Mech Fight) 24
145.Tempo (Harmo Knight) 24
146.Adeliene 23
147.Tiki 23
148.Tharja 23
149.Resident Evil (Jill Valentine Chris Redfeil, Leon Kennedy) 23
150.Dunban (Xenoblade) 22
151.Excited Biker 22
152.Mallo (Pushmo) 22
153.Muddy Mole (Mole Mania) 22
154.Reyn (Xenoblade) 21
155.NO THIRD PARTY CHARACTERS 21
156.Donkey Kong Junior 20
157.Eliwood 20
158.Anthony Higgs 19
159.Jody Summer 19
160.Marx 17
161.Andross 17
162.Alex Roivas (Eternal Darkness) 16
163.Calista (The Last Story) 16
164.KOS-MOS (Xenosaga) 16
165.Meloetta 15
166.Caeda 14
167.Walhart 14
168.Prince Sable (For the Frog the Bell Tolls) 14
169.Gooey 13
170.Ana 12
171.Ashley Robbins (Trace Memory / Another Road) 12
172.Shake King 11
173.Stanly the Bugman 11
174.Magolor 11
175.Deathborn 11
176.Soren 11
177.Bubbles (Clu Clu Land) 11
178.Sakura Samurai (Sakura Samurai: Art of the Sword) 11
179.Orublon 10
180.Tiki Tong 10
181.Leaf 10
182.Sigurd 10
183.Celice 8
184.Alice (Balloon Kid) 8
185.Heracles (Glory of Heracles) 8
186.Urban Champion 8
187.Pico 7
188.Elincia 7
189.Hero (Magc Starsign / Vacation) 7
190.Hunter (Fossil Fighter) 7
191.John Raimi (Geist) 7
192.Kyle Hyde (Hotel Dusk) 7
193.Labrador / Grey Tabby (Nintendogs plus Cats) 7
194.Tamagon (Devil World) 7
195.Kiddie Kong 6
196.Dr. Write (Sim City) 6
197.Ryuta (Ouendan) 6
198.Prince Richard (For the Frog the Bell Tolls) 6
199.Welt (Soma Bringer) 6
200.Demille (Tomato Adventure) 5
201.Daroach 4
202.Ayumi Tachibana (Famicom Detective Club pt. II) 4
203.Lark (PilotWings) 4
204.Ryota Hayami (Wave Race) 4
205.Dr. Stewart 3
206.Narbarl 3


Brawl Veterans

1.Captain Falcon 432

2.Kirby 428
3.Donkey Kong 428
4.Fox 426
5.Mario 426
6.Samus 425
7.Pikachu 425
8.Luigi 425
9.Zelda 423
10.Yoshi 419
11.Bowser 417
12.Ness 416
13.Ganondorf 414
14.Peach 405
15.Marth 401
16.Pit 397
17.Wario 397
18.Falco 394
19.King Dedede 391
20.Diddy Kong 390
21.Sheik 387
22.Ice Climbers 378
23.Meta Knight 376
24.Sonic The Hedgehog 369
25.Mr. Game & Watch 368
26.Zero Suit Samus 361
27.Lucas 349
28.Olimar (Pikmin) 347
29.Jigglypuff 341
30.Snake (Metal Gear Solid) 322
31.Ike 318
32.Wolf 313
33.Pokemon Trainer (Kanto) 284
34.R.O.B (Gyromite) 278
35.Toon Link 220

36.Lucario 202
 
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I know the language barrier makes it hard to get Japanese votes, but it does seem like they would be important.

Nice job. We will soon see if the newcomers match the top cool kids on the poll.
 

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Does anyone have Sakurai's character requirements laying around? This damned man thinks sales = which characters get in the games and I NEEEEEEEED to show him Sakurai's personal criteria so he can shrug it off and continue to be ignorant.
 

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These?

- The character's inclusion must make people want to buy the game.
- The character must be unique
- The character must fit into the style of Super Smash Bros.
- They must contribute to the game balance.

And originating in a video game and being on a Nintendo system ofc.
 

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Does anyone have Sakurai's character requirements laying around? This damned man thinks sales = which characters get in the games and I NEEEEEEEED to show him Sakurai's personal criteria so he can shrug it off and continue to be ignorant.
Just show him Ike. :ike: His game didn't sell well.

Call it a day.
 

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Sounds like he says things just to say things. He could have just said "It made it to the west"... nuff said.

OR, he could have said "I didn't really know what to say"
 
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Ridley
K.Rool
Mewtwo
Dixie
Waluigi
Megaman
Daisy
Rosalina
Kamek
Petey Piranna
Dark Samus
Cranky Kong
Funky Kong
Toad
Bowset J.r
Paper Mario

Just to name a few...
Theres like over 30 chars that deserve a spot more so than Bayonetta...

Aint this meant to be a ''All-Star'' game? Were the best most popular and iconic chars from ''Nintendo franchises'' get in?

Not just quick win of the lotto draw wins a ticket in...

If anything it seems shallow and desprate imo...or just plain retarded...to add these sorta chars before Rank 1 or 2 chars because they could be more difficult to balance/implement...or straight up..

Sakurai no likes...(-_-) take yo pick....
 

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Ridley
K.Rool
Mewtwo
Dixie
Waluigi
Megaman
Daisy
Rosalina
Kamek
Petey Piranna
Dark Samus
Cranky Kong
Funky Kong
Toad
Bowset J.r
Paper Mario

Just to name a few...
Theres like over 30 chars that deserve a spot more so than Bayonetta...

Aint this meant to be a ''All-Star'' game? Were the best most popular and iconic chars from ''Nintendo franchises'' get in?

Not just quick win of the lotto draw wins a ticket in...

If anything it seems shallow and desprate imo...or just plain retarded...to add these sorta chars before Rank 1 or 2 chars because they could be more difficult to balance/implement...or straight up..

Sakurai no likes...(-_-) take yo pick....
I definitely agree with you and would rather have any of those characters over Bayonetta, but realistically it is a good move for Nintendo to put her in. She is a female "bad ***" character that is meant to be eye candy for the "hardcore" audience. Brawl had ZSS, but this is a step further since she is from a 3rd party M rated game. This also might have the bonus of warming up Nintendo fans to the character just in time for Bayonetta 2. Like I said I'd really rather her not be here, but her inclusion is very likely imo and is a smart move on Ninty's part.
 
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Just saying..that like if Bayonetta and her legs and heels
yum! Make it in but like...i dunno...Sonic/Ridley/Megaman doesnt then...Sakurai's logic is officially ''__________'' (insert something here)
 

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Just saying..that like if Bayonetta and her legs and heels
yum! Make it in but like...i dunno...Sonic/Ridley/Megaman doesnt then...Sakurai's logic is officially ''__________'' (insert something here)
Personally I think Sonic is a given and I expect Megaman to be there too. As much as I would love PW, Megaman just makes more sense for a Capcom rep. All I was saying was that Bayonetta, while not a character that is exactly fitting in the smash universe and who certainly isn't my first choice, still has good odds because she makes sense from a business standpoint.
 
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add
Skull Kid
Tetra
Impa
Slippy
Peppy
Krystal
Tingle to that list too...
Samurai Goroh
Black Shadow
Zoroak
Genesect
Victini

Sorry about the other series...only listing chars from series im familar with to be safe..(avoid arguments..)



But yh add in those series i dont know about
Like

Fire emblem
Earthbound.....
Kid Icarus......
Pikmin
Reto/old school chars too!
Even series like Golden sun/Xenoblade
Travis touch down
Blaa blaaa all that jaz damn..

There is like 50+ chars that deserve a spot ''More so'' than Bayonetta....

Also i think Sonic is a given i like him even though i didnt be him much he most probly the most Nintendo feel like char even though he is still Sega. Megaman could have haf that spot if they still make games for him on recently on nintendo consoles.

I would be upset if sonic didnt return..but not Butthurt...
He is you could say the shoe-in 3rd party if that makes any sense...but yh you get my drift....
 
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What you mean by that exzactly..?
Capcom are grubby ********, and Megaman is owned by capcom. Plus they don't seem to like putting him in requested games anymore. (MVC3, SFxT etc)


As for MY picks for the roster, they really need some more F Zero reps. I'd rather have Blood Falcon take the spot of CF's brutal clone instead of Ganon having it again. Just to see another F Zero character. Aside from that they need to stop throwing in so many reps for mario games.. Mario, Luigi and Bowser is enough right there imo. And I won't even get started on the over saturation of pokémon characters present in brawl's roster.
 
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Had to resend this >.<

Where the votes are coming from:
46% Reddit
21% Kwiksurveys
16% Smashboards
10% Neogaf
Everything else is 1% or lower

What parts of the world are voting?
356 USA
46 Canada
21 UK
11 Australia
5 Mexico
5 Netherlands
4 Brazil
4 France
3 Switzerland
3 Spain
3 Sweden
2 Denmark
2 Germany
2 Belguim
2 Ireland
1 Portugal
1 Chile
1 Norway
1 Finland
1 India
1 Republic of Korea
1 Jordan
1 Italy
1 Kuwait



Currently at 480 votes: Newcomers

1.Mewtwo 357
2.Megaman 310
3.King K. Rool 263
4.Ridley 261
5.Roy 260
6.Little Mac (Punch Out) 210
7.Bowser Junior 190
8.Banjo & Kazooie 171
9.Isaac (Golden Sun) 170
10.Paper Mario 167
11.Palutena 166
12.Waluigi 164
13.Krystal 161
14.Chrom 153
15.Shulk (Xenoblade) 144
16.Dixie Kong 130
17.2nd Sonic Character (Tails, Shadow, Knuckles) 127
18.Samurai Goroh 128
19.Black Shadow 126
20.Bomberman 119
21.Toad 113
22.Doctor Mario 112
23.Dark Samus 109
24.Kingdom Hearts (Sora) 108
25.Rayman 106
26.King Boo 104
27.Pac-Man 104
28.Sixth Gen Pokemon 103
29.Lyn 102
30.Crono Trigger (Crono) 102
31.Mii (Wii Series) 101
32.Super Mario RPG (Geno, Mallow) 101
33.Kamek 93
34.Viewtiful Joe 93
35.Castlevania (Simon Belmont, Alucard, Dracula) 92
36.Pokemon Trainer (Johto) 91
37.Takamaru (The Mysterious Musasame Castle) 91
38.Final Fantasy (Chocobo, Black Mage, Moogle, Cloud, Lightning) 89
39.Tom Nook (Animal Crossing 88
40.Ace Attorney (Phoenix Write) 83
41.Pokemon Trainer (Hoenn) 82
42.Balloon Fighter 82
43.Zoroark 81
44.Bayonetta 79
45.Shy Guy 78
46.Ray MK (Custom Robo) 78
47.Tales Series (Cless/Cress, Lloyd) 78
48.Medusa 77
49.Rosalina 76
50.Eevee (and Eeveelutions) 76
51.Saki (Sin & Punishment) 75
52.No More Hereos (Travis Touchdown) 74
53.Professor Layton 74
54.Claus (Masked Man) 72
55.Pokemon Trainer (Kalos) 71
56.Baby Mario & Luigi 70
57.Porky 70
58.Dark Pit 70
59.Lucina 68
60.Slippy 67
61.Fawful 66
62.Conker's Bad Fur Day (Conker) 66
63.Andy (Advanced Wars) 65
64.Dillon (Rolling Western) 65
65.Pokemon Trainer (Sinnoh) 64
66.Hades 64
67.Scribblenauts (Maxwell) 64
68.K.K Slider (Animal Crossing) 63
69.Deoxys 61
70.Ashley 59
71.Plusle & Minun 59
72.Villager (Animal Crossing) 58
73.Street Fighter (Ryu, Chun Li, M. Bison) 58
74.Pokemon Trainer Villain (Rocket Plasma Galactic Aqua Magma) 58
75.Anna 57
76.2nd Metal Gear Character (Raiden, Gray Fox) 54
77.Funky Kong 54
78.Pokemon Trainer N 54
79.Captain Syrup 53
80.Mona 53
81.Bandana Dee 52
82.Genesect 51
83.Black Knight 51
84.Magnus 51
85.Daisy 49
86.Kat & Ana 49
87.Knuckle Joe 49
88.Pichu 49
89.Robin (FE:A Avatar) 47
90.Alex (Golden Sun) 47
91.Starfy (The Legendary Starfy) 47
92.Baby Bowser 46
93.Meowth 46
94.Prince Fluff 44
95.Jimmy T. 43
96.Poo 43
97.Elite Beat Agents 43
98.Peppy 42
99.Felix (Golden Sun) 42
100.Soul Calibur (Nightmare, Ivy Valentine) 41
101.Darkrai 40
102.Ninja Gaiden (Ryu Hayabusa) 40
103.Yarn Kirby 38
104.Sylux 38
105.Hector 38
106.Captain Rainbow 38
107.Battletoads (Zitz) 38
108.Mew 37
109.Jeff 37
110.Louie (Pikmin) 37
111.Pokemon Champion Cynthia 36
112.Lanky Kong 34
113.Kumatora 34
114.Duck Hunt Dog 34
115.Captain N 33
116.Lip (Panel De Pon) 33
117.Yarn Yoshi 32
118.Viridi 32
119.Blood Falcon 31
120.Ninten 31
121.Mach Rider 31
122.Cranky Kong 30
123.Jill (Drill Dozer) 30
124.Tekken (Heihachi, Jin, Kazuya) 30
125.Giygas 29
126.Paula 29
127.Fiora (Xenoblade) 29
128.Aeron (Pandora's Tower) 28
129.Captain Quartet (Pikmin 3) 25
130.Dragon Quest (Slime) 28
131.Eirika 27
132.Ephraim 27
133.Mike Jones (Star Tropics) 27
134.Leon 26
135.Matthew (Golden Sun) 26
136.Zael (The Last Story) 26
137.Micaiah 25
138.Flint 25
139.Isa Jo (Sin & Punishment) 25
140.Gardevoir 24
141.Victini 24
142.Panther 24
143.Eggplant Wizard 24
144.Sukapon (Joy Mech Fight) 24
145.Tempo (Harmo Knight) 24
146.Adeliene 23
147.Tiki 23
148.Tharja 23
149.Resident Evil (Jill Valentine Chris Redfeil, Leon Kennedy) 23
150.Dunban (Xenoblade) 22
151.Excited Biker 22
152.Mallo (Pushmo) 22
153.Muddy Mole (Mole Mania) 22
154.Reyn (Xenoblade) 21
155.NO THIRD PARTY CHARACTERS 21
156.Donkey Kong Junior 20
157.Eliwood 20
158.Anthony Higgs 19
159.Jody Summer 19
160.Marx 17
161.Andross 17
162.Alex Roivas (Eternal Darkness) 16
163.Calista (The Last Story) 16
164.KOS-MOS (Xenosaga) 16
165.Meloetta 15
166.Caeda 14
167.Walhart 14
168.Prince Sable (For the Frog the Bell Tolls) 14
169.Gooey 13
170.Ana 12
171.Ashley Robbins (Trace Memory / Another Road) 12
172.Shake King 11
173.Stanly the Bugman 11
174.Magolor 11
175.Deathborn 11
176.Soren 11
177.Bubbles (Clu Clu Land) 11
178.Sakura Samurai (Sakura Samurai: Art of the Sword) 11
179.Orublon 10
180.Tiki Tong 10
181.Leaf 10
182.Sigurd 10
183.Celice 8
184.Alice (Balloon Kid) 8
185.Heracles (Glory of Heracles) 8
186.Urban Champion 8
187.Pico 7
188.Elincia 7
189.Hero (Magc Starsign / Vacation) 7
190.Hunter (Fossil Fighter) 7
191.John Raimi (Geist) 7
192.Kyle Hyde (Hotel Dusk) 7
193.Labrador / Grey Tabby (Nintendogs plus Cats) 7
194.Tamagon (Devil World) 7
195.Kiddie Kong 6
196.Dr. Write (Sim City) 6
197.Ryuta (Ouendan) 6
198.Prince Richard (For the Frog the Bell Tolls) 6
199.Welt (Soma Bringer) 6
200.Demille (Tomato Adventure) 5
201.Daroach 4
202.Ayumi Tachibana (Famicom Detective Club pt. II) 4
203.Lark (PilotWings) 4
204.Ryota Hayami (Wave Race) 4
205.Dr. Stewart 3
206.Narbarl 3


Brawl Veterans

1.Captain Falcon 432

2.Kirby 428
3.Donkey Kong 428
4.Fox 426
5.Mario 426
6.Samus 425
7.Pikachu 425
8.Luigi 425
9.Zelda 423
10.Yoshi 419
11.Bowser 417
12.Ness 416
13.Ganondorf 414
14.Peach 405
15.Marth 401
16.Pit 397
17.Wario 397
18.Falco 394
19.King Dedede 391
20.Diddy Kong 390
21.Sheik 387
22.Ice Climbers 378
23.Meta Knight 376
24.Sonic The Hedgehog 369
25.Mr. Game & Watch 368
26.Zero Suit Samus 361
27.Lucas 349
28.Olimar (Pikmin) 347
29.Jigglypuff 341
30.Snake (Metal Gear Solid) 322
31.Ike 318
32.Wolf 313
33.Pokemon Trainer (Kanto) 284
34.R.O.B (Gyromite) 278
35.Toon Link 220

36.Lucario 202

>le Reddit nearly 50% of the votes

That explains all the **** taste... Of course, /v/ of today wouldn't be much different considering more users today are NeoGAFers, GameFAQ kiddies, and Redditors.




To all the people saying 'x character' deserves the spot more than Bayonetta.

Take a moment to either stop and think what you're saying, or to prove WHY?

"Wahh, I want this character more than her/I don't care for her/this character is more popular"

Is not enough of a reason, otherwise Snake would have never gotten in.

Now while the link I posted IS a rumor, it certainly gives us food for though about the current situation. Since there is ACTUAL solid evidence of Nintendo and SEGA working under some sort of partnership and attempting to build closer bonds, I can agree with all the people who were saying that Sonic would stay and Snake goes. Not because they were right back then, as back then it was Sonic fanboy bias, but as now we have evidence of something in the works.

Likewise, seeing as Bayonetta 2 seems to be one of the bridges that helped build that bond, it also seems fair to say that alongside Sonic, Bayonetta stands a pretty good chance of getting in. Say all you want about Megaman and his popular demand, but atm, it seems Nintendo has been doing business dealings with SEGA, not Capcom, meaning all SEGA character take a prioroty over other 3rd parties, including Namco. Iwata's words about the company working on more crossover titles certainly resonate now.

Imo, with the current view of things that we have, I can see 2-4 SEGA characters getting in as playables, Sonic being one of them, and Bayonetta being another.

Add 2-5 SEGA stages, 2-5 ATs, and a couple SEGA bosses.

PacMan will probably be the Namco 3rd party, and that will be it. You guys gotta understand the implications of having entire libraries of Genesis and Saturn era game become WiiU VC exclusive titles. That's ****ing HUGE. Imo, it seems Nintendo seems to have decided to shoulder a lot of economic burden for them to allow them to stay afloat and continue to make games, thus creating a partnership. Nintendo benefits from the IP, and SEGA can continue to stay alive.

So say what you want about not wanting Bayonetta in, I personally haven't played the game yet, but the deal is, with Bayo2 being Nintendo property, and the Bayo franchise being SEGA's and they two being so close together atm, her inclusion suddenly doesn't seem so far away, and neither does SEGA getting more attention than other 3rd party devs.

So, possible SEGA characters and levels that we can get?

Characters (choose 2-4):
Sonic
2nd Sonic Character (I say Knuckles or Eggman)
Bayonetta
AiAi (Super Monkey Ball)
NiGHTS

ATs (choose however many):
Whoever didn't become playable
Sakura from Sakura Wars
Joe Musashi from Shinobi
Something from House of the Dead
Something from Jet Set Radio
Something from Phantasy Star
Something from Crazy Taxi
Something from ChuChu Rocket?


Stages:
Sonic Stage, maybe 2
Jet Set Radio Stage (**** yeah)
NiGHTS Stage
Madworld stage?
etc...

Franchises we likely won't be seeing at all (haven't shown up on Nintendo consoles after all (ofcourse considering the VC, this is just a shot in the dark, I haven't seen the library for what is coming to VC and what isn't):
Virtua Fighter
Ecco the Dolphin
Shenmue
ToeJam & Earl
Yakuza
Initial D
Golden Axe
Project Diva (in other words no Hatsune Miku)
 

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I lied, not asleep yet, so lets talk about something not drama.

Maybe a slowpoke here but:

http://www.tssznews.com/2013/05/20/rumour-sources-claim-info-on-the-seganintendo-alliance/

Bayonetta and more SEGA characters confirmed for Smash?

We'll find out in about 2 weeks.
I'll post what this guy said in the comments

"Hey guys, look at this!

http://www.tssznews.com/2013/05/10/rumor-sega-at-work-on-another-ms-olympics-title/

This was on May 10th, before Lost World and the Olympic Games game were announced. This guy hinted at a game made by Sega Sports Japan that would be exclusive to the Wii U, and we’ve recently learned that Mario and Sonic at the Sochi Olympic Winter Games is in the works. Sega Sports Japan made the past games in the Mario and Sonic Olympic Games series, so that could be what 100-Year-Old-Gamer was talking about.

Then, he said this:

“A few Sonic games are currently being made (all of which will be on Wii U)”

This was also on May 10th, and we would later learn that the Sonic games of this year will be release on the Wii U.

Finally, there is what he said on the IGN Boards, which is this:

“As you may know, they don’t want to add to many third-party characters to avoid losing focus, but expect characters like Sonic to return and a few new ones from places like Namco and Platinum as well!”

This guy said that Sonic will be returning and a Platinum Games rep will be in the new Smash Bros game. This rumor article has people saying that Sonic and Bayonetta are going to be in the next Smash Bros, as well.

What do you guys make of all this?"
 
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I'll post what this guy said in the comments

"Hey guys, look at this!

http://www.tssznews.com/2013/05/10/rumor-sega-at-work-on-another-ms-olympics-title/

This was on May 10th, before Lost World and the Olympic Games game were announced. This guy hinted at a game made by Sega Sports Japan that would be exclusive to the Wii U, and we’ve recently learned that Mario and Sonic at the Sochi Olympic Winter Games is in the works. Sega Sports Japan made the past games in the Mario and Sonic Olympic Games series, so that could be what 100-Year-Old-Gamer was talking about.

Then, he said this:

“A few Sonic games are currently being made (all of which will be on Wii U)”

This was also on May 10th, and we would later learn that the Sonic games of this year will be release on the Wii U.

Finally, there is what he said on the IGN Boards, which is this:

“As you may know, they don’t want to add to many third-party characters to avoid losing focus, but expect characters like Sonic to return and a few new ones from places like Namco and Platinum as well!”

This guy said that Sonic will be returning and a Platinum Games rep will be in the new Smash Bros game. This rumor article has people saying that Sonic and Bayonetta are going to be in the next Smash Bros, as well.

What do you guys make of all this?"
Personally, I'm hoping all these rumors are right.

More SEGA representation outside of Sonic would be sweet.

Like playables: Sonic, Knuckles and Bayonetta

...and then some stages for those franchises along with a Jet Set Radio stage, and a NiGHTS or Super Monkey Ball Stage would be cool. Eggman being a boss, etc...

Having Smash show people that SEGA is more than just Sonic in the form of Trophies, ATs, Stages and Bosses would be sweet. JSR getting in just for the OST alone would be awesome, and stage from that franchise would be fun as ****:


Likewise a Sakura Wars and a Shinobi AT. If there is something SEGA games have is style, and that style would certainly be welcome in Smash.
 
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Rumors non-stop and we're only a few weeks away from E3? How surprising... :smirk:
It's not exactly the rumor we're looking at here.

Anyone can say anything and make a rumor. It's what the rumor is using as its foundation. The partership b/w Nintendo and SEGA.

Under that pretense, characters like Bayonetta suddendly jump in probability of getting in.

Only two weeks till we find out for sure though.
 

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It's not exactly the rumor we're looking at here.

Anyone can say anything and make a rumor. It's what the rumor is using as its foundation. The partership b/w Nintendo and SEGA.

Under that pretense, characters like Bayonetta suddendly jump in probability of getting in.

Only two weeks till we find out for sure though.
Well, a partnership between Nintendo and Sega opens possibilities for Sega characters in Smash, but we don't know the full extent of the partnership and how will that affect Smash.

If the partnership does affect Smash, the least that can happen is Sonic returning.
 

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I'm just wondering, since it's hard anyway to implement 3rd parties during development (as we've seen from Sonic's implementation delaying the game and Snake being planned wholly before-hand the development of Brawl, if I'm correct), why is the idea 3rd parties being added seemingly so easy to make "realistic" to happen? I mean I could just say that a Namco-character would seem most realistic at this point, and since not much directed it to be Pac-Man so far (so he could be added late in the development unless he's been implemented already at this point) then I dunno what's with people expecting certain characters to show up right from the start (like lolmoreSEGAandPlatinumcharactersnow)

I could say true suprise would be Megaman and someone else we have not much about thoughts about or aren't really expecting (Could be any 3rd party we thought at this point though.)

Also due this, I'm slightly starting to notice why now Tales Of-rep seems now a possibility (due being mentioned and also Namdai being in the boat at the start with the producers from Tales Of-games).

Just pointing it out, because it weirds me when people speak about 3rd party additions like they'd be a big cakewalk and so easy to do just to appeal them when they never weren't.
 
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