Super Smash Bros 4 (Wii U/3DS) Topic

[Substitution]

Why should we give Ganondorf a sword? Seriously, Ike isn't good enough for you?

But he only fights for his friends...

 

[Frostwraith]

Why should we give Ganondorf a sword? Seriously, Ike isn't good enough for you?

I agree that Ganondorf should have a mix of dark magic and swordplay. Keep his gameplay style of being slow, but powerful, as not to alienate Ganondorf players. Giving him a sword and magic could improve his range, which I think is something that he lacks.

Learn to read, will ya?

I imagine Ganondorf focusing on stabbing attacks rather than crushing attacks (like Ike).

 

[Starcutter]

Learn to read, will ya?

I imagine Ganondorf focusing on stabbing attacks rather than crushing attacks (like Ike).

yeah now that I think about it, what the heck is up with the sound ike's sword makes. it's almost accurate for slamming a really heavy sharp object into a tree. but nobody is a tree. bowser's the closest thing.


basically, I'm saying it should make a disturbing THUMPCRRKSHH noise, maybe

 

[Will]

I would rather let him use a trident. Like the Blue Ranger.

 

[Hotfeet444]

Ganondorf moveset:

Spoiler

Standard A Combo: Dark Palm (8%) (Same standard A, mixed with dark energy)


Forward + A: Dark Magic Spark (14%) (Holds hand out in front of him, releases small spark of magic, does shock damage)
Up + A: Volcano Kick (27%) (Same as Brawl + Melee upper, start-up time lowered)


Down + A: Cape Sweep: (12%) (Grabs cape with arm, does a sweeping motion with arm)


Dash Attack: Dark Sword (11%) (A dashing attack with his sword, hits hard)





Aerial Attacks:





Neutral A: Darkness Wave (16%) (Releases a burst of darkness around himself)


Forward + A: Guillotine Slash (18%) (Straight Vertical slice with sword)


Up + A: Electric Burst (14%) (Raises hand above head, releases shock magic)


Back + A: Magic Pulse (14%) (Turns around with both hands, shoots out pulse of magic, very short-range projectile)


Down + A: Dark Stomp (22%) (Same attack as Melee and Brawl, now infused with dark magic to have darkness effects)





Smash Attacks:





Forward Smash: Warlock’s Blade (34%) (Heavy-hitting horizontal slice with longsword, hits very hard)


Up Smash: Magic Blast (30%) (Grits fist then does an upper punch, releasing heavy amounts of magic upon contact)


Down Smash: Dark Tremor (28%) (Focuses his magic, causing dark magic to erupt from the ground around him)





Grab/Throws:
Grab: Grab with one hand


Pummel: Knees the opponent (4%)


Forward Throw: Charges his fist with dark energy and punches the opponent away with a burst of dark magic (10%)


Up Throw: Throws the opponent up along with a burst of electric magic (11%)


Down Throw: Smashes the opponent headfirst into the ground (7%)


Back Throw: Grabs the opponent with the end of his sword and flips them over his head, smashing both them and his sword into the ground behind him) (9%)





Special Moves:
Standard Special: Dark Magic (15-30% total) (Throws out a wave of projectiles at once, goes farther depending on time thrown)


Side Special: Flame Choke (11%) (Same as Brawl)


Up Special: Warlock Levitation (Does No Damage, disperses a wave of energy upon finishing) (Floats through the air for a short time, mid-air dodging cancels recovery)


Down Special: Earthquake Fist (13-28% depending on how close you are) (Area effect attack, punches ground to deal damage)


Final Smash: Beast Ganon (Petrify + 45% damage, can instantly kill a majority of the smaller enemies) (Transformation, works the same as in Brawl)

 

[Starcutter]

in other news I got my first episode of my galaxy series up on youtube. it's pretty nice, although there's a video screw-up close to the end, and my voice is quiet at times.

also my voice kinda echoed from the rendering. *le sigh*


well, at least recording it was fun

 

[FlareHabanero]

Learn to read, will ya?

I imagine Ganondorf focusing on stabbing attacks rather than crushing attacks (like Ike).

Still sounds a lot like Ike.

 

[Substitution]

in other news I got my first episode of my galaxy series up on youtube. it's pretty nice, although there's a video screw-up close to the end, and my voice is quiet at times.

also my voice kinda echoed from the rendering. *le sigh*


well, at least recording it was fun

Well, worse case scenario Retsupurae will say hi...

 

[Hotfeet444]

Still sounds a lot like Ike.

Not really, Ike is brutal and crushing, while Ganondorf may be powerful, he's more refined.

 

[Velvet Phoenix]

Why should we give Ganondorf a sword? Seriously, Ike isn't good enough for you?

He uses it in the Zelda games, I don't see what's wrong with incorporating some swordplay into his move set.

 

[BluePikmin11]

How bout you make Ganon's sword grip the tip of the sword, where he does the most damage.
Totally a good way to make him unique.

 

[Starcutter]

Well, worse case scenario Retsupurae will say hi...

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...

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wait, who? Who's that?

 

[Will]

Not really, Ike is brutal and crushing, while Ganondorf may be powerful, he's more refined.

Define refined in this case.

 

[FlareHabanero]

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wait, who? Who's that?

You don't know Retsupurae? He makes videos making fun at others, like poor quality let's plays.

 

[Substitution]

You don't know Retsupurae? He makes videos making fun at others, like poor quality let's plays.

Essentially this.
They're hilarious though.

 

[Starcutter]

You don't know Retsupurae? He makes videos making fun at others, like poor quality let's plays.

awww **** people like him. the only thing poor quality about our show is technical difficulties. if he wants to prove he's better, he can come to my house and set up the stuff and buy any extra equipment.

 

[Hotfeet444]

Define refined in this case.

Well, Ike's style is that he swings his sword around almost recklessly, so much force is put behind his swings to the point where it's almost surprising how he's still alive seeing how he leaves so many openings for his opponents. Ganondorf is more calculating. He predicts your movements and knows how to counter. Why? Because he's a master swordsman. He lets you make the first swing and then counters with incredible force. I honestly think that, if it wasn't for the whole "Good Guys always win" scenario, especially in the child/adult timeline, that Ganondorf probably would have won. Doesn't game limitation suck?

 

[Substitution]

awww **** people like him. the only thing poor quality about our show is technical difficulties. if he wants to prove he's better, he can come to my house and set up the stuff and buy any extra equipment.

Well, you see.
1. It's actually two people. One of them being the founder of video LP's.
2. It's all in good fun. Like when Mystery Science Theater 3000 makes fun of a movie.

 

[Starcutter]

Well, you see.
1. It's actually two people. One of them being the founder of video LP's.
2. It's all in good fun. Like when Mystery Science Theater 3000 makes fun of a movie.

huh. didn't know that.

but still.






.......anyone watch my video?

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

huh. didn't know that.

but still.






.......anyone watch my video?

You could be the next BillyMC

 

[Substitution]

You could be the next BillyMC

None could replace Billy. You know that...

 

[Will]

Well, Ike's style is that he swings his sword around almost recklessly, so much force is put behind his swings to the point where it's almost surprising how he's still alive seeing how he leaves so many openings for his opponents. Ganondorf is more calculating. He predicts your movements and knows how to counter. Why? Because he's a master swordsman. He lets you make the first swing and then counters with incredible force. I honestly think that, if it wasn't for the whole "Good Guys always win" scenario, especially in the child/adult timeline, that Ganondorf probably would have won. Doesn't game limitations suck?

DID YOU JUST PUT A QUESTION IN A DEFINITION? Also I understand what you mean.

 

[Starcutter]

None could replace Billy. You know that...

whos that?


*googles it*


OMFG this guy man. this guy. he's waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay past cool

 

[Smooth Criminal]

*rolls his eyes at the swordsmen discussion.*

Smooth Criminal

 

[Substitution]

*rolls his eyes at the swordsman discussion.*

Smooth Criminal

What swordsman discussion? We're talking about BillyMC.

 

[Smooth Criminal]

I'm aware.

Probably should have indicated the earlier discussion about swordsmen. My bad.

Smooth Criminal

 

[deebeethedeity]

Sword or Trident?

Warlock Punch or bust



I'm too used to Brawlerdorf

 

[Substitution]

I'm aware.

Probably should have indicated the earlier discussion about swordsmen. My bad.

Smooth Criminal

 

[AEMehr]

Ganondorf is fine really.
He just needs new specials (Neutral and Down specifically) and smashes (Side). A sword isn't necessary, he needs moves that focus on his dark magic as well, not just on his brute strength.

A sword is entirely unnecessary, but is welcome if it doesn't take up more than 35% of his moveset. He's got the triforce of power for a reason, he's supposed to have ridiculous strength. So if he isn't getting his hands dirty, he isn't utilizing that strength correctly.

 

[Renji64]

Just waiting for that footage or confimation as a certain purple dragon as a stage hazard

 

[Hotfeet444]

Just waiting for that footage or confimation as a certain purple dragon as a stage hazard

It's been over 5 months since that stage's reveal, and with literally every other stage we knew about the stage hazards almost right away, and here we are, five months later, with no Ridley. I think it's safe to assume Ridley's not going to be a stage hazard.

 

[Substitution]

whos that?


*googles it*


OMFG this guy man. this guy. he's waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay past cool

I know right!

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Just waiting for that footage or confimation as a certain purple dragon as a stage hazard

1/10

No originality.

No comedic timing.

No class.

Terrible troll attempt.

Would not bang unless copious amounts of alcohol were directly injected into my body.

 

[SuperMii3D]

1/10

No originality.

No comedic timing.

No class.

Terrible troll attempt.

Would not bang unless copious amounts of alcohol were directly injected into my body.

Wut.....

8/10 would read again

 

[Renji64]

1/10

No originality.

No comedic timing.

No class.

Terrible troll attempt.

Would not bang unless copious amounts of alcohol were directly injected into my body.

Don't care.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Don't care.

Attitude problem.

See me after class.

And I'm calling your parents.

 

[SuperMii3D]

It's been over 5 months since that stage's reveal, and with literally every other stage we knew about the stage hazards almost right away, and here we are, five months later, with no Ridley. I think it's safe to assume Ridley's not going to be a stage hazard.

Youre right, probably just another boss battle in the main adventure we might see him as a full fledged character!

 

[SuperMii3D]

Attitude problem.

See me after class.

And I'm calling your parents.

Nuuuuu, be more aggressive, terrible performance, 3/12 see me after break

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Nuuuuu, be more aggressive, terrible performance, 3/12 see me after break

Professor SuperMii.

I don't need you criticizing how I deal with my students.

Please. Stick to your 4th grade class.

 

[Substitution]

Professor SuperMii.

I don't need you criticizing how I deal with my students.

Please. Stick to your 4th grade class.

I dunno, I though it was kind funny.