Super Smash Bros 4 (Wii U/3DS) Topic

[Arcadenik]

Just bring back Ike and leave it at that, Chrom and Lucina are both bad choices.

Yes... let's just leave out Chrom & Lucina and bring on the Wandering Heroes.

 

[Kenith]

I was talking about Tiki, and actually you can, or at least achieve relationship level S with her.



Well, my first playthrough I married Olivia, the second was Nowi, the third was Tiki, and this current playthrough is my first female character playthrough and I have the perfect oddball picked for when I can finally complete a certain chapter.

My first play through was with a female, and I married Gaius because Theif+Sugar = Sexy.

I made a male file for the sole purpose of marrying Anna and married Cordelia anyway.

They share an art style, but otherwise they look very different. Even Ninten looks different from Ness, but he does look far more similar than Lucas.

Either way, Fire Emblem can offer so much more than three similar guys, wouldn't you rather more unique characters get in?

If you say so. What other characters do you have in mind?

 

[Will]

Yes... let's just leave out Chrom & Lucina and bring on the Wandering Heroes.

Their magic is very OP.

 

[Morbi]

If we are talking about marriage in Fire Emblem, the game forced me to marry Chrom, not that I was complaining; I was going to do that anyways. Other than that, the game was a shippers wet-dream.

 

[mimgrim]

My first play through was with a female, and I married Gaius because Theif+Sugar = Sexy.

I made a male file for the sole purpose of marrying Anna and married Cordelia anyway.

Man I really hate how some of the support convos Cordelia had in the Japanese version were changed in the English one. It was hilarious how self conscious she was with her breasts, but they just had to change it for the English version.

 

[BluePikmin11]

If we are talking about marriage in Fire Emblem, the game forced me to marry Chrom, not that I was complaining; I was going to do that anyways. Other than that, the game was a shippers wet-dream.

I was forced into Sumia x Chrom when I first played the game.
Olivia x Chrom is the best way to go.

Man I really hate how some of the support convos Cordelia had in the Japanese version were changed in the English one. It was hilarious how self conscious she was with her breasts, but they just had to change it for the English version.

Wait what? O_O

 

[XStarWarriorX]

My first play through was with a female, and I married Gaius because Theif+Sugar = Sexy.

I made a male file for the sole purpose of marrying Anna and married Cordelia anyway.



If you say so. What other characters do you have in mind?

Dat gaius confession line is 2 gud.

I still don't want to see any awakening characters though. their just 2 bland, and the other is another husk. no thanks.

I was forced into Sumia x Chrom when I first played the game.
Olivia x Chrom is the best way to go.


Wait what? O_O

Don't worry the DLC covers it. Cordelia has no breasts, that plate armor is a lie.

 

[JamesDNaux]

Not really, I honestly want the more relevant and prominent character. If you are choosing a less ideal character just because they are more unique, you are doing something wrong. There are plenty of ways to make similar looking characters play completely different thus making their similarities negligible.

Well that wasn't directed at you but...

Relevance is a load of BS, you only want characters because they are important? How would the other characters be less ideal? Because they aren't Lords? Why do they have to be Lords in the first place? Do you not care about the gameplay, or variety? If everyone in the game played exactly the same, it would be boring as hell. Even the looks part, they may play different, but what if you had ten Marios that each had a moveset based around a different powerup, that sounds awful imo.

 

[Kenith]

Man I really hate how some of the support convos Cordelia had in the Japanese version were changed in the English one. It was hilarious how self conscious she was with her breasts, but they just had to change it for the English version.

Eh, I don't like how she has that problem. It's kind of mysogy-

Never mind. I already got one thread closed ******** about sexism.

 

[Velvet Phoenix]

All of this reminds me, I need to finish Awakening. I got really close and then just kind of stopped playing.

 

[mimgrim]

Eh, I don't like how she has that problem. It's kind of mysogy-

Never mind. I already got one thread closed *****ing about sexism.

It's not a case of sexism. It's the fact that she thought her breasts were small when they really weren't that small and some of the comments that were made through it. xDDDDD

She made a comment to Robin in the Japanese version along the lines of "I wonder if you rub them will the get bigger?" Or something like that with Robin then saying "This woman!" in a exasperated way. xD Or how one of Donny's list of compliments compliments were of her breast and discussion ensued. It was just hilarious, at least to me. lol

 

[Velvet Phoenix]

It's not a case of sexism. It's the fact that she thought her breasts were small when they really weren't that small and some of the comments that were made through it. xDDDDD

She made a comment to Robin in the Japanese version along the lines of "I wonder if you rub them will the get bigger?" Or something like that with Robin then saying "This woman!" in a exasperated way. xD Or how one of Donny's list of compliments compliments were of her breast and discussion ensued. It was just hilarious, at least to me. lol

Reminds me of dialogue from Tales games.

Estelle: They're bouncing...
Judith: What are you looking at?!
Estelle: I wish I could bounce...

 

[mimgrim]

Reminds me of dialogue from Tales games.

Estelle: They're bouncing...
Judith: What are you looking at?!
Estelle: I wish I could bounce...

I like Abyss' (only Tales game I have played and probably will ever play) better because of Tear's "melons".

 

[Velvet Phoenix]

I like Abyss' (only Tales game I have played and probably will ever play) better because of Tear's "melons".

Hmm, haven't gotten to that yet. You should play Symphonia and Vesperia though, those games are amazing. Abyss has nothing on them.

 

[Morbi]

Well that wasn't directed at you but...

Relevance is a load of BS, you only want characters because they are important? How would the other characters be less ideal? Because they aren't Lords? Why do they have to be Lords in the first place? Do you not care about the gameplay, or variety? If everyone in the game played exactly the same, it would be boring as hell. Even the looks part, they may play different, but what if you had ten Marios that each had a moveset based around a different powerup, that sounds awful imo.

*sigh*

Are you actually insinuating that Chrom isn't the most well known character of Fire Emblem Awakening that is specific to that game? If you are, incorrect. If you aren't, that is precisely the point.

Yes, I do only want characters because they are important, hence the character has more fans to enjoy them.

What other characters and intent are we specifically alluding to? I am specifically referencing from the perspective that Smash is a marketing machination and that it is more rational to include prominent and relevant characters over similar characters that are slightly more unique.

No.

They do not have to be, I actually think Anna is a great choice.

Game-play is irrelevant as it will differ significantly anyways. Chrom WILL PLAY DIFFERENTLY. So, I can enjoy his new play-style, maybe it could have been slightly more different, but it is negligible.

Yes, it would be boring as hell. Fortunately, nobody really plays the same... and nobody will.

No he doesn't. That is entirely subjective. Just because he has blue-hair does not mean that his aesthetics are congruent with Marth's. They look nothing alike to me.

That does sound awful. Luckily we will only get one Chrom.

 

[Kenith]

Well that wasn't directed at you but...

Relevance is a load of BS, you only want characters because they are important? How would the other characters be less ideal? Because they aren't Lords? Why do they have to be Lords in the first place? Do you not care about the gameplay, or variety? If everyone in the game played exactly the same, it would be boring as hell. Even the looks part, they may play different, but what if you had ten Marios that each had a moveset based around a different powerup, that sounds awful imo.

Relevancy is not BS, otherwise Rosalina, WFT and Lucario would not be here.

It's not a case of sexism. It's the fact that she thought her breasts were small when they really weren't that small and some of the comments that were made through it. xDDDDD

She made a comment to Robin in the Japanese version along the lines of "I wonder if you rub them will the get bigger?" Or something like that with Robin then saying "This woman!" in a exasperated way. xD Or how one of Donny's list of compliments compliments were of her breast and discussion ensued. It was just hilarious, at least to me. lol

Well, perceived sexism probably is a factor in why that content was removed - after all, Americans perceive things differently than Japan.

 

[mimgrim]

Hmm, haven't gotten to that yet. You should play Symphonia and Vesperia though, those games are amazing. Abyss has nothing on them.

Meh. I'm not interested in playing another Tales game in all honesty. The only thing that kept me going in Abyss was the character interaction, I was bored otherwise. Gameplay was rather lackluster to me.

Well, perceived sexism probably is a factor in why that content was removed - after all, Americans perceive things differently than Japan.

Probably, but it still sucks. It was freaking funny. xD

 

[Velvet Phoenix]

Meh. I'm not interested in playing another Tales game in all honesty. The only thing that kept me going in Abyss was the character interaction, I was bored otherwise. Gameplay was rather lackluster to me.

By gameplay, I assume you mean the combat. In that case, you may enjoy Graces f and Xillia.

 

[Rebellious Treecko]

Well, perceived sexism probably is a factor in why that content was removed - after all, Americans perceive things differently than Japan.

"Perceived" offense...
So true.

 

[mimgrim]

By gameplay, I assume you mean the combat. In that case, you may enjoy Graces f and Xillia.

Looked them up. I don't have a PS3. (I really want one though because KH 1.5 and the future KH 2.5, maybe I'll try asking one for my Bday, though that would be a stretch since I got a 360 for Christmas.)

What makes them so different form other Tales games though? I heard all Tales game had basically the same gameplay throughout.

 

[Kenith]

Meh. I'm not interested in playing another Tales game in all honesty. The only thing that kept me going in Abyss was the character interaction, I was bored otherwise. Gameplay was rather lackluster to me.
Probably, but it still sucks. It was freaking funny. xD

The only Tales game I played was Symphonia, and it never really clicked with me. That said, Lloyd's pretty swell because he is also the leader of the Teen Titans.

 

[Morbi]

The only Tales game I played was Symphonia, and it never really clicked with me. That said, Lloyd's pretty swell because he is also the leader of the Teen Titans.

I see, a secret way of getting **** Grayson in the game!

Edit- That was unexpected... um... Richard Grayson? Is it going to censor that name too?

 

[Velvet Phoenix]

Looked them up. I don't have a PS3. (I really want one though because KH 1.5 and the future KH 2.5, maybe I'll try asking one for my Bday, though that would be a stretch since I got a 360 for Christmas.)

What makes them so different form other Tales games though? I heard all Tales game had basically the same gameplay throughout.

The combat evolves quite significantly through the series. Legendia and Symphonia are stuck to a 2D plane, while the newer games like Abyss and Vesperia are more 3D. Graces f and Xillia have a more fast paced fighting system, it's really addicting. Personally I think they all are, but the battles are different enough from Abyss that you may like it more.

 

[JamesDNaux]

*sigh*

Are you actually insinuating that Chrom isn't the most well known character of Fire Emblem Awakening that is specific to that game? If you are, incorrect. If you aren't, that is precisely the point.

Yes, I do only want characters because they are important, hence the character has more fans to enjoy them.

What other characters and intent are we specifically alluding to? I am specifically referencing from the perspective that Smash is a marketing machination and that it is more rational to include prominent and relevant characters over similar characters that are slightly more unique.

I couldn't and wouldn't want to change your opinion, we're simply not going to agree on this. I don't think SSB is purely marketing, but that the marketing is an afterthought. I never insinuated that Chrom isn't the most well know, but well known =/= popular, Tingle can attest to that. Just because he's a main character in the game doesn't mean he has an abundance of fans, yes he has some obviously, but other characters have more. Of course this is all subjective so there's not much point in continuing this. Just remember that characters being important or well known doesn't mean much to Sakurai, we do have retros after all.

Relevancy is not BS, otherwise Rosalina, WFT and Lucario would not be here.



Well, perceived sexism probably is a factor in why that content was removed - after all, Americans perceive things differently than Japan.

Rosalina was probably forced onto Sakurai by Nintendo, and he probably only agreed to it because he was able to think of a unique moveset, which seems to be his highest priority right now going by the four newcomers we have. WFT was specifically chosen because no one thought of her, not due to relevance. And how is Lucario relevant? He had a minor role in the story of X/Y but ultimately he isn't new, he's not relevant anymore. We might have gotten a few characters due to "relevance," but what are they compared to the entire rest of the roster? Pokemon Trainer sure as hell wasn't relevant during Brawl.

You need to lighten up on the whole sexist thing too, if you think it's wrong to be attracted to women, you could always go for men instead.

 

[XStarWarriorX]

The only Tales game I played was Symphonia, and it never really clicked with me. That said, Lloyd's pretty swell because he is also the leader of the Teen Titans.

 

[Kenith]

I see, a secret way of getting **** Grayson in the game!

Edit- That was unexpected... um... Richard Grayson? Is it going to censor that name too?

That unexpected censor makes that sentence very interesting.

A secret way of getting ****!


Grayson.

 

[Morbi]

I couldn't and wouldn't want to change your opinion, we're simply not going to agree on this. I don't think SSB is purely marketing, but that the marketing is an afterthought. I never insinuated that Chrom isn't the most well know, but well known =/= popular, Tingle can attest to that. Just because he's a main character in the game doesn't mean he has an abundance of fans, yes he has some obviously, but other characters have more. Of course this is all subjective so there's not much point in continuing this. Just remember that characters being important or well known doesn't mean much to Sakurai, we do have retros after all.



Rosalina was probably forced onto Sakurai by Nintendo, and he probably only agreed to it because he was able to think of a unique moveset, which seems to be his highest priority right now going by the four newcomers we have. WFT was specifically chosen because no one thought of her, not due to relevance. And how is Lucario relevant? He had a minor role in the story of X/Y but ultimately he isn't new, he's not relevant anymore. We might have gotten a few characters due to "relevance," but what are they compared to the entire rest of the roster? Pokemon Trainer sure as hell wasn't relevant during Brawl.

You need to lighten up on the whole sexist thing too, if you think it's wrong to be attracted to women, you could always go for men instead.

Of course not, I thought we were specifically referring to personal preference. I didn't know that objectivity had a place in the conversation. However, I didn't like all of the random assumptions. I may not agree with you, but you presumed that my perspective was somehow a template. Not cool, bro.

 

[Big-Cat]

Yes... let's just leave out Chrom & Lucina and bring on the Wandering Heroes.

You mean these two?

 

[mimgrim]

You mean these two?

I think he meant the dog and cat from Mii RPG thing. lol

 

[Hotfeet444]

You mean these two?

That game was such a waste of potential...

 

[Shroob]

You mean these two?

I'll take the one on the right.

 

[Arcanir]

Rosalina was probably forced onto Sakurai by Nintendo, and he probably only agreed to it because he was able to think of a unique moveset, which seems to be his highest priority right now going by the four newcomers we have. WFT was specifically chosen because no one thought of her, not due to relevance. And how is Lucario relevant? He had a minor role in the story of X/Y but ultimately he isn't new, he's not relevant anymore. We might have gotten a few characters due to "relevance," but what are they compared to the entire rest of the roster? Pokemon Trainer sure as hell wasn't relevant during Brawl.

You need to lighten up on the whole sexist thing too, if you think it's wrong to be attracted to women, you could always go for men instead.

Nitpicking a bit here since I do mostly agree, but that's assuming though, we have no clue what went behind Rosalina's inclusion. Having said that, based on his previous comments, it's more likely she was picked because she was unique and popular. Similarly, Lucario is relevant, a Pokémon having a role in a Main Pokémon game is a rarity unless they're legendary or an event. Plus, that's ignoring advertisements, merchandise and ongoing appearances on other Pokémon media.

Personally, I didn't like the whole Cordelia being self-conscious thing because it was a bit overdone and cheesy to me in the supports. No matter how she feels about them, there were too many awkward moments where it was brought up. MU's in particular bothered me because no matter how she feels about him, to ask someone to rub your breasts is very out of place.

 

[mimgrim]

That game was such a waste of potential...

I couldn't even finish the game. The maps were just to freaking long to complete and it became super tedious with how super easy the game was. >_>

So I sold it.

 

[Kenith]

Rosalina was probably forced onto Sakurai by Nintendo, and he probably only agreed to it because he was able to think of a unique moveset, which seems to be his highest priority right now going by the four newcomers we have. WFT was specifically chosen because no one thought of her, not due to relevance. And how is Lucario relevant? He had a minor role in the story of X/Y but ultimately he isn't new, he's not relevant anymore. We might have gotten a few characters due to "relevance," but what are they compared to the entire rest of the roster? Pokemon Trainer sure as hell wasn't relevant during Brawl.
You need to lighten up on the whole sexist thing too, if you think it's wrong to be attracted to women, you could always go for men instead.

I don't think you're really in a position to tell me to "lighten up" on sexism given this is something I care about and it's not like you're doing any better with the discussion.

Rosalina forced by Nintendo? Conspiracy much? All of the characters in question are part of heavily advertised games that made a lot of money. If that isn't relevance, I don't know what is.

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

Really quick, relevancy is BS, otherwise we wouldn't have ROB, Game and Watch, the Ice Climbers, Pit (in Brawl prior to Uprising), technically anything F-Zero at this point, or heck, even Jigglypuff or Ness.

 

[BluePikmin11]

I'm pretty damn surprised of how many comments are in the Pic of the day in the Smashboards article and in Miiverse. Didn't think it would be this big of a reveal.

 

[Shroob]

I'm pretty damn surprised of how many comments are in the Pic of the day in the Smashboards article and in Miiverse. Didn't think it would be this big of a reveal.

Well, Lucario isn't going to make it in after all.

 

[Big-Cat]

That game was such a waste of potential...

The game was fun, but it definitely could've been much harder. The hardest level is the last one on difficulty where you actually have to really strategize. At least I got introduced to this:

 

[Velvet Phoenix]

I'm pretty damn surprised of how many comments are in the Pic of the day in the Smashboards article and in Miiverse. Didn't think it would be this big of a reveal.

What, Lucario? Well I have to say, I was pretty surprised by his reveal myself.

 

[BluePikmin11]

The comments already flooded to 1005 when I woke in the morning to see Miiverse.
Make sure guys keep touch on how fast these comments are posted, I'd love to see the results.