Super Smash Bros 4 (Wii U/3DS) Topic

[KingofPhantoms]

Just an early Christmas gift from Link to Toon Link.

 

[Typhl0si0n]

"Do I look like a Dodongo to you?"

 

[Fastblade5035]

"I've had enough of your crap, Tink."

 

[Typhl0si0n]

Me and my friends were talking about alternate costumes, when one of them said, "I think it would be cool if characters could have alts of other characters."

But seriously, what do you guys think? Being able to have an alt of a different character?

 

["Shion"]

Man that'd be extremely weird..

Possibly OP of you changed to a small character and the OG was Bowser.

 

[Morbi]

Me and my friends were talking about alternate costumes, when one of them said, "I think it would be cool if characters could have alts of other characters."

But seriously, what do you guys think? Being able to have an alt of a different character?

That is something that I wouldn't really mind at all. Lucina as Chrom or Marth wouldn't be so bad, Dixie Kong would be another easy one. Some people hate the notion though.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

If a character isn't playable, I don't mind an alt in general. But if they are, it gets too confusing. Having two of the same character without a severely different costume can get confusing.(the Ganondorfs in Melee don't look super different from each other compared to say, Link, who has different colored Tunics)

 

[Deleted member]

I'm pretty sure the idea is that characters get alts of EACH OTHER.
Like Luigi wearing a Peach wig and dress in the pic above.
And the reverse, Peach wearing a Luigi suit.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

-Imagines Bowser dressed up as Princess Zelda-

...No. Just no.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

What about Princess Zelda dressed in Bowser's clothing?

 

[Deleted member]

*Imagines Zelda lumbering around in a giant spiked shell*

No.

 

[PLATINUM7]

*Imagines Zelda lumbering around in a giant spiked shell*

No.

Spiked shells are for sumos only.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Spiked shells are for sumos only.

Are you trying to put my heart into shellshock?

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Bowser doesn't wear a shell. That's part of his body

 

[KingofPhantoms]

It's a not part of his body in one version of "Mario is Missing!".

The same version of that game was also the one that started a certain meme... (an old meme that I'm pretty sure is dead)

 

[PLATINUM7]

Bowser doesn't wear a shell. That's part of his body

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Mario is missing is not canon

 

[Vintage Creep]

Mario is missing is not canon

It's the rest of the franchise which is non-canon to Mario Is Missing.

 

[Deleted member]

Bowser can toss spare shells in Mario Kart Double Dash.

He wears it. Just like any regular Koopa wears their shells.

 

[Vintage Creep]

For the love of God this board is a mess. Downs are one thing, bugs I can accept.
But now there are 8 EIGHT topics on the first page opened by a bot.
Jesus Christ, what a mess.

 

["Shion"]

That's a sexy Zelda.

 

[The Original Robot boy]

Me and my friends were talking about alternate costumes, when one of them said, "I think it would be cool if characters could have alts of other characters."

But seriously, what do you guys think? Being able to have an alt of a different character?

Sakurai ooooh sakurai make this happen!

 

[FlareHabanero]

But seriously, what do you guys think? Being able to have an alt of a different character?

Only if it makes "Martha" canon.

 

[Fatmanonice]

I'm pretty sure the idea is that characters get alts of EACH OTHER.
Like Luigi wearing a Peach wig and dress in the pic above.
And the reverse, Peach wearing a Luigi suit.

A bit off topic but I wish this had been Princess Peach's personality in the main canon games. She was easily my favorite character in this comic series just because, well, she wasn't a stereotypical damsel in distress. The only games where she comes close to this is the Paper Mario games but in everything else she's borderline ******** or scientologist naive and it kind of irks me because the difference is night and day.

 

[APC99]

A bit off topic but I wish this had been Princess Peach's personality in the main canon games. She was easily my favorite character in this comic series just because, well, she wasn't a stereotypical damsel in distress. The only games where she comes close to this is the Paper Mario games but in everything else she's borderline ******** or scientologist naive and it kind of irks me because the difference is night and day.

The Super Mario Adventures incarnation of Princess Peach really does need to be brought back. She's a lot more likable in this version, and, honest to goodness, I adore Peach in the Luigi costume. It's fitting. I don't understand how they went from kick-a$$ leader to "Tee-hee, oh Mario". I like strong female protagonists, which is probably why I like the Super Mario Adventure's Peach and Twilight Princess' Zelda.

 

[FlareHabanero]

You can blame the simplistic style that the Mario titles tend to have in terms of plot. Many of the games are simply "Peach is kidnapped by Bowser, Mario goes save her". Which for the most part doesn't lead to many character development opportunities. The RPG games do however do flesh out certain characters, sometimes depending on the game itself. The most notable example of this is Bowser, who instead of being a straight forward villain is given certain characteristics like being hot blooded, egotistical, dull witted, and is generally treated more like a bully trying to be a threat but often times flounders on his own words.

 

[Deleted member]

@Habanero
That reminded me so much of this BitF comic...

 

[Fatmanonice]

You can blame the simplistic style that the Mario titles tend to have in terms of plot. Many of the games are simply "Peach is kidnapped by Bowser, Mario goes save her". Which for the most part doesn't lead to many character development opportunities. The RPG games do however do flesh out certain characters, sometimes depending on the game itself. The most notable example of this is Bowser, who instead of being a straight forward villain is given certain characteristics like being hot blooded, egotistical, dull witted, and is generally treated more like a bully trying to be a threat but often times flounders on his own words.

I understand this but Peach is just so... dumb in most of the canon games. I know the games aren't really open to any indepth plot but she's always depicted as this airhead with a sort of starry eyed wonderment about freakin' everything. She's basically an adult child. Granted, Mario's equally as goofy but at least it's obvious that he has a drive and purpose when he does things while Peach is just in a constant state of derp. Luigi's personality in the comics and cartoons eventually became canon and I wish Peach's would eventually take that step too. Also, yes, Bowser is fantastic in all the RPG games. My favorite incarnation of him is how he is in SMRPG where he wears his insecurities on his sleeves but tries desperately to cover them up. Mario's a show off and Peach's naive but a bit of a firebrand which are just some of many reasons why it's still my favorite Mario game after all these years.

 

[Pheta Ray]

I understand this but Peach is just so... dumb in most of the canon games. I know the games aren't really open to any indepth plot but she's always depicted as this airhead with a sort of starry eyed wonderment about freakin' everything.

Maybe what Peach needs is an RPG centered around her finding herself without Mario or Bowser that isn't SMRPG.

Think Fire Emblem or Final Fantasy or any other RPG you like but with Peach as she explores her self and her ancestry. I don't know, maybe we'd figure out she's not as boneheaded as you and I think she is.

 

[The Original Robot boy]

@Habanero
That reminded me so much of this BitF comic...

It was never the same for him after the first super mario

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

It was never the same for him after the first super mario

Of course it wasn't. Word of God confirmed this is actually near accurate to how the series works. The golfing and platformers all happen. In fact, there is no such thing as a game that didn't happen outside of Hotel Mario(at best). Did you know that Super Mario Galaxy 2's storyline only is non-canon to the first game's? The game itself is "just" as canon as everything else.

Honestly, people really need to stop throwing canon and Mario around. It's just beyond incorrect. The only thing it has is different continuities and that's it. There never was a real canon.

 

[PSIguy89]

wait.....hyper what about galaxy 2's story being non canon? im legit confused.

 

[Kaye Cruiser]

Of course it wasn't. Word of God confirmed this is actually near accurate to how the series works. The golfing and platformers all happen. In fact, there is no such thing as a game that didn't happen outside of Hotel Mario(at best). Did you know that Super Mario Galaxy 2's storyline only is non-canon to the first game's? The game itself is "just" as canon as everything else.

Honestly, people really need to stop throwing canon and Mario around. It's just beyond incorrect. The only thing it has is different continuities and that's it. There never was a real canon.

You've got that backwards about the Galaxy games. Galaxy 2 isn't non-canon.

Galaxy 2 officially retconned Galaxy 1 and is a 1 game universe reboot. Galaxy 1 is the game that's non-canon.

Not that any of it matters in the end.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

wait.....hyper what about galaxy 2's story being non canon? im legit confused.

It's what I said. Mario Galaxy 2's story does not take Galaxy 1's story into account.

That's literally the only time Miyamoto specifically says something is non-canon. Most assume Hotel Mario is too due to them saying the Zelda CD-i games were not canon. But it was never confirmed(as in they literally never said anything about Hotel Mario specifically). The thing is, you could easily argue the Paper Mario series has a different canon from the rest of the Mario games due to being an entirely different world with different physics and such. These don't exist in the other Mario games, including things like Golf and Kart. It's gotten to the point of weirdness in the actual Mario series that Metal Mario himself has become his own character. And not just a simple Mario power-up. He's even been a separate power-up for Dr. Mario in one game.(awkward, no?)

Super Mario RPG may also be an entirely non-canon game as well due to the different laws of physics(but that requires the Mario & Luigi series to be non-canon due to the cameo with Geno. Also, SMRPG's direct appearances of Link and Samus are suspicious). The Mario & Luigi series however fits in well enough due to Aliens being known since Super Mario Land, Dreams being a normal thing in Super Mario Bros. 2: USA, and the Babies already being part of the regular continuity.

The thing about Golf/Kart/etc. is that the Mario and Donkey Kong Country series were always connected from the start. Why wouldn't DK be able to naturally visit their worlds? Cranky Kong originally did show up to fight Mario first, after all in the original DK game.(as was implied by the DKC series. It has not been confirmed that Cranky is the original DK due to Word of God, mind you)

You've got that backwards about the Galaxy games. Galaxy 2 isn't non-canon.

Galaxy 2 officially retconned Galaxy 1 and is a 1 game universe reboot. Galaxy 1 is the game that's non-canon.

Not that any of it matters in the end.

Fair enough. Either way, only time any real "non-canon" bits ever were said. You'd think more would be, though...

 

[APC99]

You've got that backwards about the Galaxy games. Galaxy 2 isn't non-canon.

Galaxy 2 officially retconned Galaxy 1 and is a 1 game universe reboot. Galaxy 1 is the game that's non-canon.

Not that any of it matters in the end.

What? I'm so confused...

 

[Kaye Cruiser]

What? I'm so confused...

Long story short, Miyamoto's a lazy, uncreative **** when it comes to story.

Probably why he always whines that he doesn't wanna make any stories. ¦D

 

[APC99]

Long story short, Miyamoto's a lazy, uncreative **** when it comes to story.

Probably why he always whines that he doesn't wanna make any stories. ¦D

B-b-b-but...

Miyamoto is God...

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Gods can't be lazy? Oh, please.

He wants the Zelda series to be all about story and the Mario to, well, not.

 

[FlareHabanero]

B-b-b-but...

Miyamoto is God...

Miyamoto is no god, he's an old ****.

 

[TheWhiteBowser]

B-b-b-but...

Miyamoto is God...

NO YOU FOOL KOJIMA IS GOD!!!

Miyamoto is no god, he's an old ****.

(Uses Southern accent)
You better watch your mouth son! Young punks like you got no respect for thine elders boy!