Super Smash Bros 4 (Wii U/3DS) Topic

[Oasis_S]

Oh yeah, forgot to mention that warp digivolving into WarGreymon works really well since any Digimon and any time could do it. And Terra Force works as some big powerful attack rather than YET ANOTHER transformation since the character is already full of them.

As for KO's, I guess two for Greymon and four for MetalGreymon? As for having such a complex gimmick, I think when you have the whole rest of the roster being normal, it hardly matters throwing in ONE complex character. Kind of like when people complain about a gravity gimmick for a Mario Galaxy stage wouldn't be competitively viable or something, like that even mattered in the first place. It's like, you literally have every other stage that works normally, why do you care if one isn't.

 

[Fastblade5035]

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Oh yeah, forgot to mention that warp digivolving into WarGreymon works really well since any Digimon and any time could do it. And Terra Force works as some big powerful attack rather than YET ANOTHER transformation since the character is already full of them.

The transformation is at least justified in this case. It'd be fun to play fully as both. And if he's already digivolving multiple times, should this matter?

As for KO's, I guess two for Greymon and four for MetalGreymon? As for having such a complex gimmick, I think when you have the whole rest of the roster being normal, it hardly matters throwing in ONE complex character. Kind of like when people complain about a gravity gimmick for a Mario Galaxy stage wouldn't be competitively viable or something, like that even mattered in the first place. It's like, you literally have every other stage that works normally, why do you care if one isn't.

That works. That's why I like still having a strong Final Smash as an option. I just like when we have a good slew of diverse stages as is.

@Fastblade: Stop being a Habanero. You're better than that.

 

[Conviction]

Was I only with the site offline?

 

[Bowserlick]

I think a Digimon would confuse people.

 

[DeadlyAllianceLeader]

An updated version of the roster from Yesterday, with Pit (Whom I'd left out by accident... sorry) and Palutena replacing Paula and Monita as whom I saw most fit, other characters moving around and such a bit. The bottom row is of characters I couldn't find a spot for, or were unlikely in this end's opinion, but wanted to leave in in any case, if that's alright. Also, Lucas

 

[Fastblade5035]

An updated version of the roster from Yesterday, with Pit (Whom I'd left out by accident... sorry) and Palutena replacing Paula and Monita as whom I saw most fit, other characters moving around and such a bit. The bottom row is of characters I couldn't find a spot for, or were unlikely in this end's opinion, but wanted to leave in in any case, if that's alright. Also, Lucas
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Is this a prediction or a personal roster?

 

[DeadlyAllianceLeader]

Is this a prediction or a personal roster?

A little of both, I suppose... o//o Is that alright? I shouldn't assume ANYthing, but... yes

 

[Rebellious Treecko]

An updated version of the roster from Yesterday, with Pit (Whom I'd left out by accident... sorry) and Palutena replacing Paula and Monita as whom I saw most fit, other characters moving around and such a bit. The bottom row is of characters I couldn't find a spot for, or were unlikely in this end's opinion, but wanted to leave in in any case, if that's alright. Also, Lucas
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Toad, Bowser Jr., AND Waluigi? Hot d@mn, son.
I like most of this, but a lot of those characters don't look very likely. I don't think we'll be getting 55 slots, either.

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[Conviction]

Man, I haven't seen Oasis get that passionate about something Smash related in a while

 

[FlareHabanero]

I don't even know what the hell this Digimon crap is.

 

[DeadlyAllianceLeader]

Toad, Bowser Jr., AND Waluigi? Hot d@mn, son.
I like most of this, but a lot of those characters don't look very likely. I don't think we'll be getting 55 slots, either.

Oh, I know. I suppose there are just... uh... like an organized list of characters, both, who I can see making it, and characters I would like personally. I know there's alot and come will definetly not come true. Some were just wild guesses because if Wii Fit Trainer can make it, in this end's opinion, anything is possible and for the better

 

[Fastblade5035]

A little of both, I suppose... o//o Is that alright? I shouldn't assume ANYthing, but... yes

Well then, dont mind if I dissect it like a prediction.
>Genesect
>no Lucario
>Chrom replacing Ike
>Krystal
>Prince Fluff
>Pauline
>Ghirahim

My main gripes ^

 

[DeadlyAllianceLeader]

Well then, dont mind if I dissect it like a prediction.
>Genesect
>no Lucario
>Chrom replacing Ike
>Krystal
>Prince Fluff
>Pauline
>Ghirahim

My main gripes ^

It's quite alright. You definetly don't have to like those choices if you don't want to. Or if you see differently, which is all fine as well

 

[Swamp Sensei]

So... Do you guys think we'll get anything Zelda related on Thursday?

The banner did go away awful quick....

 

[Robert of Normandy]

Spoiler

Spoiler

 

[Oasis_S]

Man, I haven't seen Oasis get that passionate about something Smash related in a while

Could that be because YOU HAVE BEEN GONE FOR A WHILE?!

I Spout cute little ideas all the time.

 

[Conviction]

Could that be because YOU HAVE BEEN GONE FOR A WHILE?!

I Spout cute little ideas all the time.

That is true, but it would still be My first time seeing you get passionate about something in a while.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

An updated version of the roster from Yesterday, with Pit (Whom I'd left out by accident... sorry) and Palutena replacing Paula and Monita as whom I saw most fit, other characters moving around and such a bit. The bottom row is of characters I couldn't find a spot for, or were unlikely in this end's opinion, but wanted to leave in in any case, if that's alright. Also, Lucas
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I'll disesct it like a prediction as well.

First off, I'd love for that many Mario reps, but the chances of that many being included is very unlikely. I can see why you would want that many though, there are several viable choices for a Mario rep.

Second, I'm a bit puzzled as to why Tetra is on the roster, but Toon Link isn't. Also, Ghirahim, while I admit would definetely fit in Smash, is not very likely either.

I'm not really sure what Pauline could do, and personally I don't think theres a need for Tom Nook, and for some reason I find Bandana Dee to be a more likely Kriby rep than Prince Fluff, but I admit Prince Fluff would be a great character. Lastly, I have doubts Pac-man would get in over Snake.

Aside from those, this roster isn't half-bad.

 

[Oasis_S]

That is true, but it would still be My first time seeing you get passionate about something in a while.

Bolding an M.

What do you even have to do with an M.

S is in my name, but what do you have.

If anything you'd be bolding X's.

Though being the least used letter would make that no fun.

Sad life you would be living.

Real sad.

If only you had bolded M's instead.

 

[Conviction]

Bolding an M.

What do you even have to do with an M.

S is in my name, but what do you have.

If anything you'd be bolding X's.

Though being the least used letter would make that no fun.

Sad life you would be living.

Real sad.

If only you had bolded M's instead.

I do as I please.

 

[DeadlyAllianceLeader]

I'll disesct it like a prediction as well.

First off, I'd love for that many Mario reps, but the chances of that many being included is very unlikely. I can see why you would want that many though, there are several viable choices for a Mario rep.

Second, I'm a bit puzzled as to why Tetra is on the roster, but Toon Link isn't. Also, Ghirahim, while I admit would definetely fit in Smash, is not very likely either.

I'm not really sure what Pauline could do, and personally I don't think theres a need for Tom Nook, and for some reason I find Bandana Dee to be a more likely Kriby rep than Prince Fluff, but I admit Prince Fluff would be a great character. Lastly, I have doubts Pac-man would get in over Snake.

Aside from those, this roster isn't half-bad.

Thank you very much for the input ^//^ What you say is definetly a really good arguement for such characters. I know not all of them can get in, especially at a count of 55 like this. I suppose these are just like... a prediction and Wishlist mashed and organized into a select screen.

You do raise really good points about such choices. Pauline... is indeed a really big toughie. I put her on because, in this end's opinion, she's had some good representation in the Mario and Donkey Kong series for the portables. Perhaps she'd more likely be as part of a stage from said games on the 3DS Smash Bros if she were even in.

For Tetra, call this a hunch, but I have a feeling that Toon Link won't be playable because of his appearance in the Spirit Tracks stage, but I could be absolutely wrong. Secondly, if it's alright, In this end's opinion, Wind Waker deserves at least one representative with, as good as Toon Link was, proper justice.

For Ghirahim... I suppose I've seen him in since the beginning, or rather when the game was announced back in 2011. He seemed more logical back then, but you may be right. Sorry...

For Tom Nook... I dunno... I just think that something else from Animal Crossing will be in in some form, but this may not have been the best choice.

I don't change my mind on Prince Fluff, though, if that's okay. I could see him in the game for sure, but I won't assume any further than that. He deserves the spot, and is different, in my opinion, and thus... yes.

Thank you again, with all I can give, for the feed back ^^

 

[Oasis_S]

I do as I please.

I CAN'T EVEN TELL THAT YOU BOLDED THOSE BEFORE I CLICKED REPLY but before I noticed I was just going to say that IN DOING SO you displease everyone else.

Daijoubu what's wrong with you.

 

[FlareHabanero]

Are you Mad?

 

[Conviction]

Daijoubu what's wrong with you.

I hate you so much right now.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

Thank you very much for the input ^//^ What you say is definetly a really good arguement for such characters. I know not all of them can get in, especially at a count of 55 like this. I suppose these are just like... a prediction and Wishlist mashed and organized into a select screen.

You do raise really good points about such choices. Pauline... is indeed a really big toughie. I put her on because, in this end's opinion, she's had some good representation in the Mario and Donkey Kong series for the portables. Perhaps she'd more likely be as part of a stage from said games on the 3DS Smash Bros if she were even in.

For Tetra, call this a hunch, but I have a feeling that Toon Link won't be playable because of his appearance in the Spirit Tracks stage, but I could be absolutely wrong. Secondly, if it's alright, In this end's opinion, Wind Waker deserves at least one representative with, as good as Toon Link was, proper justice.

For Ghirahim... I suppose I've seen him in since the beginning, or rather when the game was announced back in 2011. He seemed more logical back then, but you may be right. Sorry...

For Tom Nook... I dunno... I just think that something else from Animal Crossing will be in in some form, but this may not have been the best choice.

I don't change my mind on Prince Fluff, though, if that's okay. I could see him in the game for sure, but I won't assume any further than that. He deserves the spot, and is different, in my opinion, and thus... yes.

Thank you again, with all I can give, for the feed back ^^

I'm still a bit iffy about the Spirit Tracks stage meaning Toon Link will be cut, but I'd be glad if at least one Wind Waker character got in, you make a good point there.

I thought Ghirahim would be fairly likely a while back, but I'm not so sure about him now.

 

[Oasis_S]

I hate you so much right now.

NANDA YO?! Jealous of my Sick rhymes?

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

What I'm more or less expecting Zelda-wise is Link(as he is now, a composite character), Zelda/Shiek(same way as Link), Ganondorf, and Child Link. How they're done, not sure exactly for the last two. The former could be OOT, Toon, or TP styles. Albeit, I'd expect TP with a mix of each similar to how Link is. Child Link is very difficult to say. He could be Classic Link from A Link Between Worlds. And we haven't gotten much information from Wii U Zelda, so a lot could change design-wise. Who says that's Link's final design?

A sixth character is very possible. Impa, Tingle, Ghirahim, Toon Zelda/Toon Sheik(albeit, Toon Sheik or Tetra are both reasonably possible right now.) these are who I think have a decent chance. There's other smaller characters who could be neat, like Midna & Wolf Link, Skull Kid, or Vaati, but they aren't stand outs like the other listed ones.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

The argument involving Oasis_S and xIblisx is entertaining, I tell you it's PHantastic.

 

[Conviction]

NANDA YO?! Jealous of my Sick rhymes?

Some things never change, and then I learned you are one of those Homestuck crackbabies. No, I am not.

 

[Oddyesy]

HERE WE GO
LET'S DO THIS

BESTOW ALL YOUR RAGE ON ME
MY BODY IS READY

EDIT: Wow so the thread goes dead when I post my dream roster. Ichowitis. ... Or maybe... OR MAYBE...
MY ROSTER KILLED YOU GUYS
OMG WHAT HAVE I DONE I'M A TERRIBLE PERSON

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

It could be because your roster is horrifically organized and the Zelda characters are way overrepresentated by a huge margin. You have 12 playable ones... with 3 Pokemon. Most of the series didn't even get a new character. Like, at all. You added two Golden Sun, a buttload of 3rd Parties, which somehow had those series get more than one rep(what the heck?), didn't give anything new to Mario, Donkey Kong, Yoshi, Metroid, StarFox, F-Zero, Mother, Kid Icarus or Pokemon(why are there 3 Pokemon characters? It's less slots than Brawl and Melee as well as taking out freakin' Jigglypuff for no reason whatsoever)

It has a huge amount of problems, dude. Re-organize it, no less than 4 Pokemon slots, severely cut down the Zelda slots(if you need more than 6 slots, you're going a bit far. And that could be 8 characters with the combo-based ones) Fire Emblem at 3/4 slots is fine. Also I named the series that could stand to have more slots attributed in my first paragraph. Reduce your 3rd party slots to at least one per Company, just... please. With a huge roster, more than 4 Third Party characters is pushing, but seriously...

 

[Oasis_S]

Some things never change, and then I learned you are one of those Homestuck crackbabies. No, I am not.

I don't have to take this, I have Homestuck porn to draw.

By the way. Smooth Criminal. That green sun?

It's a homestuck thing.

Have fun changing your avatar.

 

[Oddyesy]

It could be because your roster is horrifically organized and the Zelda characters are way overrepresentated by a huge margin. You have 12 playable ones... with 3 Pokemon. Most of the series didn't even get a new character. Like, at all. You added two Golden Sun, a buttload of 3rd Parties, which somehow had those series get more than one rep(what the heck?), didn't give anything new to Mario, Donkey Kong, Yoshi, Metroid, StarFox, F-Zero, Mother, Kid Icarus or Pokemon(why are there 3 Pokemon characters? It's less slots than Brawl and Melee as well as taking out freakin' Jigglypuff for no reason whatsoever)

It has a huge amount of problems, dude. Re-organize it, no less than 4 Pokemon slots, severely cut down the Zelda slots(if you need more than 6 slots, you're going a bit far. And that could be 8 characters with the combo-based ones) Fire Emblem at 3/4 slots is fine. Also I named the series that could stand to have more slots attributed in my first paragraph. Reduce your 3rd party slots to at least one per Company, just... please. With a huge roster, more than 4 Third Party characters is pushing, but seriously...

Yeah I know. It was my first time using the Roster Maker and I was like "Wat what do I do" so. Next time it won't be so horrific. And what I took out Jiggly
I really don't know what I'm doing.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

HERE WE GO
LET'S DO THIS
View attachment 2634
BESTOW ALL YOUR RAGE ON ME
MY BODY IS READY

EDIT: Wow so the thread goes dead when I post my dream roster. Ichowitis. ... Or maybe... OR MAYBE...
MY ROSTER KILLED YOU GUYS
OMG WHAT HAVE I DONE I'M A TERRIBLE PERSON

Thankfully they were brought back when I turned them into Phantoms for my army.

 

[IsmaR]

Bolding an M.

What do you even have to do with an M.

S is in my name, but what do you have.

If anything you'd be bolding X's.

Though being the least used letter would make that no fun.

Sad life you would be living.

Real sad.

If only you had bolded M's instead.

Above all, it's My thing.

 

[Oddyesy]

Thankfully they were brought back when I turned them into Phantoms for my army.

Oh. Don't mind the roster now because it's crap and crap doesn't taste too good. So I'm remaking it.

 

[Conviction]

I don't have to take this, I have Homestuck porn to draw.

And your cults at cons

Above all, it's My thing.

Ah, come on.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Yeah I know. It was my first time using the Roster Maker and I was like "Wat what do I do" so. Next time it won't be so horrific. And what I took out Jiggly
I really don't know what I'm doing.

That's why you organize by series first. Then start moving around once you figure out who to put in. That's how I did it, and I screwed up more than once. Had to delete some I uploaded. Don't feel bad at all, it's not easy to do. But yeah, organization is the key to nice-looking roster. Even if it has some odd representation, that makes it easier to point out flaws. Personal suggestion; If the Series' slots go above 6, start pruning. A series should barely be smaller than 2 minimum depending what it is. Ice Climbers, R.O.B., and Third Parties easily should get one slot per Series. The rest, anywhere between 2 and 6. Another idea is to try and represent among different games in the series itself. If there's 3 characters in a series, try to have them notable among different games. F-Zero has tons of characters, so having 2 works overall. It means Falcon is from one game, and for example, Samurai Goroh is from another. Also, the first character could be argued as repping the series as a whole while the rest rep specific games. You could say that for the entire Mario series as is. Mario reps the series and Bowser, Luigi, and Peach have their own starring games.(Bowser's is odd since it's called Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story) Alternatively, they're notable in a particular game as well. Waluigi is a very important character in Dance Dance Revolution: Mario Mix, who sets off the entire game for you, while Toad stars as the hero in Wario's Woods, and Bowser Jr. is the main villain of New Super Mario Bros. DS(1). These are examples, of course.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

And your cults at cons



Ah, come on.

It's my Thing now.