Super Smash Bros 4 (Wii U/3DS) Topic

[Bowserlick]

In Brawl: Other than Ganon's Side-B... What different move does he have from Captain Falcon?

A, Toward tilt, Down Tilt, Up Tilt, Up Smash, Forward Aerial and maybe throws

 

[Moon Monkey]

I sincerely doubt we'll get more than 1 newcomer by the end of the year.

I think 1 newcomer at least, 2 at the most.

Project M is actually launching to the moon soon, and it isn't coming back until the S.S. Anne returns to Kanto.

Launching to the MOON!? Sounds like it's coming directly to me.
They don't call me Moon Monkey for nothing.

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

So Project M is fun to watch.

Just saw a video of Hax (Captain Falcon) vs. DoH (Charizard). That was enjoyable.

 

[Demna]

A, Toward tilt, Down Tilt, Up Tilt, Up Smash, Forward Aerial and maybe throws

I had no idea why all these details slipped my mind, maybe it's because I'm so frustrated given that a character of Ganondorf's caliber is not given his own moveset... Meh, I'll go the Ismar way on this, I won't expect a genuine moveset on Ganon in Smash 4. Having hopes on this matter might lead to a frustrating destruction.

 

[IsmaR]

I'm...actually somewhat less negative than usual when it comes to Ganondorf.

In Melee, he had his sword in his victory screen.

In Brawl, he had it for a taunt.

Maybe this time, he'll unsheath it during his entrance animation, then realize he doesn't need it and throw it away.

 

[Demna]

Maybe this time, he'll unsheath it during his entrance animation, then realize he doesn't need it and throw it away.

Maybe he'll wear Captain Falcon's helmet in the entrance animation... Just sayin'.

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

DKC comes out in November bro, unlike Pokémahn (which comes out in October), and Wind Waker HD (which comes out in October everywhere but Japan, where it comes out in late September).

Huh... this is making me think that HD Toon Link will be either the next veteran revealed or the veteran revealed after the next veteran is revealed, which in and of itself is quite revealing of a reveal.

Nah, Sonic's reveal will be made into an "event," whether for Sonic: Lost World or for something else, and such an "event" is not limited to Sonic: Lost World. Plus Sonic is hands down the biggest smash bros. newcomer ever, so he's all but confirmed anyways IMO.

I might as well get my hopes high for Toon Link since the one from Spirit Tracks (on the 3DS stage) is actually his grandson and I bet Zelda was his grandma/Toon Link's wife.

Actually, I wouldn't get my hopes too high for Sonic until the release of Mario & Sonic in 2014 Russia and the third Wii U Sonic game (rumoured to be another Sonic & Sega All Stars game).

 

[Demna]

I sincerely doubt we'll get more than 1 newcomer by the end of the year.

Excluding E3's revealed characters, Sakurai revealed 2 characters (Luigi and Olimar) in 2 months (If not more due to the chances of a revealed character in tomorrow's direct). We should receive 4 more character reveals before 2014 assuming we receive a character per month and there are 4 months left of 2013 (excluding what is left of August).

 

[Salty the SLUG]

Excluding E3's revealed characters, Sakurai revealed 2 characters (Luigi and Olimar) in 2 months (If not more due to the chances of a revealed character in tomorrow's direct). We should receive 4 more character reveals before 2014 assuming we receive a character per month and there are 4 months left of 2013 (excluding what is left of August).

Tomorrow's direct?

 

[Moon Monkey]

The next Direct is Friday. It's gonna be WW101 focused

 

[Demna]

Tomorrow's direct?

Yeah, The Wonderful 101 direct.

 

[Salty the SLUG]

The next Direct is Friday. It's gonna be WW101 focused

Oh, I thought it was only once a month. I'd be amazed if we got a double "character drop".

 

[Demna]

The next Direct is Friday. It's gonna be WW101 focused

True, but we there might be a very slight possibility that we will be surprised with a newcomer reveal.

 

[Johnknight1]

I think 1 newcomer at least, 2 at the most.

1 is what we're likely gonna get, unless there is some Nintendo World this year (which there should be, because the Wii U needs some hype around it).

Still, Nintendo ought to save the REAL hype for later... you know, stuff like another 3rd party character, Mewtwo, Ridley, K. Rool, etc.

Launching to the MOON!? Sounds like it's coming directly to me.

They don't call me Moon Monkey for nothing.

It is launching to a different Moon Mister Moon Man... one without Monkeys!

A, Toward tilt, Down Tilt, Up Tilt, Up Smash, Forward Aerial and maybe throws

That up tilt needs to either needs to get a new animation and become the up smash or GTFO.

 

[Salty the SLUG]

If they DID reveal another character, it would need to be a very mildly hyped character, maybe like Ness, Lucas or something around the veteran caliber.

 

[Moon Monkey]

True, but we there might be a very slight possibility that we will be surprised with a newcomer reveal.

I doubt it, but who knows.

1 is what we're likely gonna get, unless there is some Nintendo World this year (which there should be, because the Wii U needs some hype around it).

Still, Nintendo ought to save the hype for later.

It is launching to a different Moon Mister Moon Man... one without Monkeys!

Without Monkeys!?

(Love this pic)

Seriously though, the Wii U needs momentum, I'm sure it will pick up when games start dropping.
I just don't think WW HD, WW101, and Pikmin 3 will do it. Maybe DK:TF and Super Mario 3d World.

 

[Johnknight1]

If they DID reveal another character, it would need to be a very highly hyped character, maybe like Ness, Lucas or something around the veteran caliber.

Just about any veteran reveal would create some sort of buzz. Pretty much any veteran (sans Melee cut characters and some characters like Lucario, Snake, and ROB) would make great reveals, specifically characters who are in franchises with new games coming out, specifically characters who are in those very games.

 

[Gargaglione]

Seriously though, the Wii U needs momentum, I'm sure it will pick up when games start dropping.
I just don't think WW HD, WW101, and Pikmin 3 will do it. Maybe DK:TF and Super Mario 3d World.

SM3D World looks whatever.
I find even the WW remake to be more exciting.

 

[Bowserlick]

Changes to Ganondorf's Moveset​

Specials​

B Energy Sphere: Tosses an energy sphere. Startup lag similar to Falcon Punch. Can't be dodged. Ball occupies dodge space, although sidestepping or dodging will result in less knockback. Can be reflected with an attack. Grows bigger with each attack and requires a stronger attack to reflect each time. Only one sphere per Ganondorf on screen at a time.​

Up B Warlock Levitation: Floats for a limited time. Press of A will cause him to come crashing down with a fist that causes a shockwave when it hits the ground.​

Down B Vortex Grip: Ganondorf's fists glow purple, his cape flows backwards and a vacuum effect (similar to his Up A Leg lift) pulls in opponents and projectiles directly in front of him. If an enemy collides with Ganondorf's chest, an electrical shock with knock them back with stun.​

*Uses include slowing down his energy sphere to confuse the opponent's timing if they planned on hitting it back and dragging in enemies for close up fighting.
Smashes
Forward Smash Sword Strike: Materializes a sword from dark energy and swings it downwards in front of his body
Down Smash Dark Palm: Faces screen, creates a crackling purple orb of energy between his hands in front of his chest, then rips it apart and extends electrical palms outwards on both sides.
Up Smash Rising Warlock Punch: A weaker yet chargeable Warlock punch that strikes above Ganondorf
Tilts
Up Tilt: Old Up Smash
Aerials
Up A: Stretches his arms above his head and a dark electric current jumps between palms for a second
Neutral A: A single strong kick as he yells like a beast

Dash​

Creates an electrical trident that he stabs forward​

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

I have a weird feeling that if we get anyone in the W101 focused Direct (which I doubt will happen, but still), it'll be Captain Falcon.

 

[Moon Monkey]

SM3D World looks whatever.
I find even the WW remake to be more exciting.

yeah i'm not all to hyped for 3d world myself. I just looks like 3D Land HD with local co-op.
For some reason when I look at that game, i feel like I already played it.

 

[Johnknight1]

I still like the "old fashion" idea of giving the "heart" of Ganondorf's moveset to Samurai Goroh (although feature some katana moves) and give Ganondorf an entirely new moveset, or (conversely) let Ganondorf keep "the heart" of his moveset but still vastly alter his moveset.

Seriously though, the Wii U needs momentum, I'm sure it will pick up when games start dropping.
I just don't think WW HD, WW101, and Pikmin 3 will do it. Maybe DK:TF and Super Mario 3d World.

That is why Nintendo is making Sakurai promote these games these ways.

Also, Wind Waker H, the Wonderful 101, and Pikmin 3 won't make a huge impact; DKC and Super Mario World (wow, it's been like... 20 years since those two games were release together) will have that kind of impact, because they are huge name games.

Also, if Nintendo is smart, they ought to give both DKC and Super Mario 3D World online... but they probably won't, like what they failed to do with Pikmin 3.

Also, Mario Kart 8 might be the secret "killer app" for the console in the spring.

 

[Gargaglione]

Changes to Ganondorf's Moveset​

Specials​

B Energy Sphere: Tosses an energy sphere. Startup lag similar to Falcon Punch. Can't be dodged. Ball occupies dodge space, although sidestepping or dodging will result in less knockback. Can be reflected with an attack. Grows bigger with each attack and requires a stronger attack to reflect each time. Only one sphere per Ganondorf on screen at a time.​

Up B Warlock Levitation: Floats for a limited time. Press of A will cause him to come crashing down with a fist that causes a shockwave when it hits the ground.​

I think the Energy Sphere sounds pretty cheap. I think a less powerful thunder-ball from OoT or something would be better.

Also, the Up B move can be teleportation; it's not as original or interesting, but Ganondorf teleports a lot. (I like your idea better though)

 

[TheWhiteBowser]

Just checked the past fives pages of this thread and nobody mentioned this. Smashboards you disappoint me... After all it was in the Nintendo direct...

 

[FlareHabanero]

Without Monkeys!?

 

[Salty the SLUG]

Just checked the past fives pages of this thread and nobody mentioned this. Smashboards you disappoint me...

To be honest, this IS Smashboards, not Nintendoboards.

 

[Johnknight1]

Luigi in Fire Emblem = needs to happen now Habby Wabby, Hubby Wubby, Mooney Tooney, Fasty Lasty.

(YeaHHHH!!! Now you all have baby names for when we make a baby spin-off of our fanfic after the teen and senior citizen spin-off of the same fanfic!!!).

Excluding E3's revealed characters, Sakurai revealed 2 characters (Luigi and Olimar) in 2 months (If not more due to the chances of a revealed character in tomorrow's direct). We should receive 4 more character reveals before 2014 assuming we receive a character per month and there are 4 months left of 2013 (excluding what is left of August).

Yeah, well that is veterans. I was talking about newcomers. We're bound to get tons of veterans revealed, because we have only 11 confirmed out of 44 (45 counting Toon Link), all but at most (probably) 6 of which will be playable. Why not just reveal the (obvious) veterans first=???

 

[Moon Monkey]

That is why Nintendo is making Sakurai promote these games these ways.

Also, Wind Waker H, the Wonderful 101, and Pikmin 3 won't make a huge impact; DKC and Super Mario World (wow, it's been like... 20 years since those two games were release together) will have that kind of impact, because they are huge name games.

Also, if Nintendo is smart, they ought to give both DKC and Super Mario 3D World online... but they probably won't, like what they failed to do with Pikmin 3.

Also, Mario Kart 8 might be the secret "killer app" for the console in the spring.

The lack of online in DK:TF and 3D World (Especially 3D World) is a damn shame.
The Wii U has a better online infrastructure than the Wii and the most Wii U owners get to do is screen cap pictures and share them on Miiverse.
Smash and Kart will defiantly be the systems hay-makers

 

[TheWhiteBowser]

To be honest, this IS Smashboards, not Nintendoboards.

That's not a legitimate excuse... Or reason...

 

[Salty the SLUG]

The lack of online in DK:TF and 3D World (Especially 3D World) is a damn shame.
The Wii U has a better online infrastructure than the Wii and the most Wii U owners get to do is screen cap pictures and share them on Miiverse.
Smash and Kart will defiantly be the systems hay-makers

Hey, when is the new Kart coming out, anyways?

 

[Salty the SLUG]

That's not a legitimate excuse... Or reason...

Some people make exceptions. I guess you made an exception.

 

[Moon Monkey]

Hey, when is the new Kart coming out, anyways?

2014...you know Nintendo and their launch windows.

 

[Salty the SLUG]

2014...you know Nintendo and their launch windows.

They know how to perfect games, but some times they forget things.

 

[Johnknight1]

Technically Mario Kart 8's "release window" is Spring 2014, but of course, that is open to being changed.

The lack of online in DK:TF and 3D World (Especially 3D World) is a damn shame.
The Wii U has a better online infrastructure than the Wii and the most Wii U owners get to do is screen cap pictures and share them on Miiverse.
Smash and Kart will defiantly be the systems hay-makers

Yeah, the lack of online is stupid, and I hope it bites Nintendo in the butt so they can learn from their mistakes already. Heck, I hope Pikmin 3 sales falter because of it. Online multiplayer is now a STANDARD FEATURE on ALMOST ALL MULTIPLAYERS!!! In fact, that has been the case FOR NEARLY A DECADE!!!

Nintendo should have learned this already. The online for Mario Kart Wii literally probably "sold" the game to millions of people... JUST THE ONLINE!!! If Brawl's online was as good as Mario Kart Wii's online (which honestly isn't that good, but at least it is playable), then Brawl would have sold several million more copies.

I swear, all of this "stuck in the stone age" multiplayer without online, region-locking, and lack of leader boards is why I am glad I am no blind Nintendo fanboy. Some of these idiots are even praising Nintendo for there not being online multiplayer in Pikmin 3. Last I checked, all other modern RTS' in the universe had online multiplayer.

This is the kind of crap that could lead to the Wii U getting Dreamcast'd, and is why Nintendo ought to catch up with the times of these issues that really aren't debatable. Heck, at least make them (FREE!!!) DLC later to "make up" for their shortsightedness and poor developing time frames.

 

[Bowserlick]

Luigi seems too big. He could pluck off Link's head with that giant hand.

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

I swear, all of this "stuck in the stone age" multiplayer without online, region-locking, and lack of leader boards is why I am glad I am no blind Nintendo fanboy.

Geez, John, even a blind fanboy such as myself (as much as I'm sure I am) thinks and agrees with you that that's pretty stupid.

 

[Metal Overlord]

No online for 3D World? Kinda expected that honestly but yeah it's a shame

 

[LiteralGrill]

So! I'm finally moved into my new house! YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No more days filled with so much work my disabled body can't walk!

Let's have a party!

 

[Johnknight1]

Luigi seems too big. He could pluck off Link's head with that giant hand.

I'm glad they made Link shorter, actually. He's never been that tall in his games, and this could potentially "eliminate" Link as a heavyweight, which was sorely needed.

Also, that side camera angle definitely makes Luigi look taller and wider than he actually is.

 

[Fastblade5035]

I'm glad they made Link shorter, actually. He's never been that tall in his games, and this could potentially "eliminate" Link as a heavyweight, which was sorely needed.

Also, that side camera angle definitely makes Luigi look taller and wider than he actually is.

All I care about is Samus' seemingly buffed Nair. Dat length man.