Super Smash Bros 4 (Wii U/3DS) Topic

[PsychoIncarnate]

Does his ability to collect the moon make you feel any better:

I would have put the UFO in the center

 

[Disfunkshunal]

PK Thunder really needs a way (at least for Ness) to not be able to be "absorbed."

On top of that, PK Thunder for both Ness and Lucas should launch them like 2 times as far as they went in Brawl at the very least IMO.

Lucas' was fine. Ness' distance needs to increase and not end early when he hits something.

 

[Johnknight1]

R.O.B I'm right behind you (kinda) lol I just turned 18 a few weeks ago

OHHH YEAHHH!!!! GUESS WHO'S OPEN FOR MY BUSINESS AND WE WON'T GET ARRESTED OVER ANYMORE=???

 

[MexM]

OHHH YEAHHH!!!! GUESS WHO'S OPEN FOR MY BUSINESS=???

Oh and happy birthday ROB.

 

[Johnknight1]

Lucas' was fine. Ness' distance needs to increase and not end early when he hits something.

I kinda agree on Lucas'. As for Ness, I agree on that.

I also think Ness should have more DI when he is in the vulnerable PK Thunder state, or that Ness should just be able to do infinite PK Thunders (in the air).

 

[KingofPhantoms]

PK Thunder really needs a way (at least for Ness) to not be able to be "absorbed."

On top of that, PK Thunder for both Ness and Lucas should launch them like 2 times as far as they went in Brawl at the very least IMO.

It's been a while since I tried Ness in Melee, but wasn't his recovery pretty bad in Melee too?

Lucas's recovery was actually decent though.

 

[Johnknight1]

It's been a while since I tried Ness in Melee, but wasn't his recovery pretty bad in Melee too?

Lucas's recovery was actually decent though.

Yes Ness' was turrible in that game too, and it was pretty bad in Smash 64 (although it actually helped you recover).

And Lucas' was saved by the tether grab. If the crew goes back to the Melee tether recovery system, really an upgrade for Lucas' recovery is not really needed.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

Yes Ness' was turrible in that game too, and it was pretty bad in Smash 64 (although it actually helped you recover).

And Lucas' was saved by the tether grab. If the crew goes back to the Melee tether recovery system, really an upgrade for Lucas' recovery is not really needed.

Not to mention it could hit certain things and screw you up without any real input from the opponent. The Shy Guys on the Yoshi stages are infamous for that.

How was Melee's tether recovery better though? I never was really able to figure it out properly in Melee.

 

[Johnknight1]

Not to mention it could hit certain things and screw you up without any real input from the opponent. The Shy Guys on the Yoshi stages are infamous for that.

Yep, which is why I've been suggesting Ness has infinite PK Thunder since like 2006!

But no, Brawl had to make him weaker because of stuffs.

How was Melee's tether recovery better though? I never was really able to figure it out properly in Melee.

You couldn't really edge hog a tether recovery (meaning hold onto the edge preventing them to grab it), and seeing as how most tether recovery characters are lower tier characters (Link, Young Link, Samus, etc), this helped them in Melee. In Brawl, this was also the case (sans Olimar), but because you could edge hog it easily, and also because they couldn't tether on the wall.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

Yep, which is why I've been suggesting Ness has infinite PK Thunder since like 2006!

But no, Brawl had to make him weaker because of stuffs.


You couldn't really edge hog a tether recovery (meaning hold onto the edge preventing them to grab it), and seeing as how most tether recovery characters are lower tier characters (Link, Young Link, Samus, etc), this helped them in Melee. In Brawl, this was also the case (sans Olimar), but because you could edge hog it easily, and also because they couldn't tether on the wall.

Thing is, I have trouble trying to recover after grappling onto something, I don't know how to use it effectively.

It's good it prevented edge hogging in Melee though.

 

[Disfunkshunal]

I kinda agree on Lucas'. As for Ness, I agree on that.

I also think Ness should have more DI when he is in the vulnerable PK Thunder state, or that Ness should just be able to do infinite PK Thunders (in the air).

Would infinite PK thunders in the air really help? Anyone with a flexible projectile could still keep him at bay fairly easy. I kinda want his yo-yo to be made into a tether. That won't fix much but it'll help.

 

[Diddy Kong]

PK Teleport please.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

PK Teleport please.

That would suck, because they'd have to run in order to do it

Also it would be boring. Just disappearing then reappearing.

 

[LiteralGrill]

Would infinite PK thunders in the air really help? Anyone with a flexible projectile could still keep him at bay fairly easy. I kinda want his yo-yo to be made into a tether. That won't fix much but it'll help.

His yo yo needs to just not suck overall. At most from what I remember and have read recently it's only good for some strange mind games.

PK Teleport please.

The more I think about it, the more I like the idea, but still have that awkward love for violently electrocuting my anus to propel myself onto the stage.

 

[MexM]

That would suck, because they'd have to run in order to do it

Also it would be boring. Just disappearing then reappearing.

Zelda?

 

[KingofPhantoms]

I never thought I'd say this, but teleporting would be dull. (in this case)

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Zelda?

Exactly. Mewtwo and Zelda both already do that

 

[Pyra]

The more I think about it, the more I like the idea, but still have that awkward love for violently electrocuting my anus to propel myself onto the stage.

I just like electrocuting small children *shrug*

I hope New Age Retro Hippie makes it in the game somehow. Even if it's just an Assist Trophy.

 

[TheWhiteBowser]

all this talk about teleporting reminds me of pokemon

 

[Diddy Kong]

PK Teleport could be charged on stage, and would function much like a mix of Luigi's Side B misfire and PK Thunder. Would cause knockback similar to PK Thunder to (which also damages Ness slightly) but does less damage.

 

[Disfunkshunal]

His yo yo needs to just not suck overall. At most from what I remember and have read recently it's only good for some strange mind games.

Yeah lol we can start with that. Both his Dsmash and his Usmash should be cancelable. I'd like to cancel the first hit of his Dsmash into maybe a backwards short hop Nair->Uair maybe? Maybe also make his Usmash come out faster to give him a quick ranged attack and if it's cancelable the opponent won't have a chance to move in while it's completing the arc. I don't know I'm not a competitive player. I'd also just like him to have more yo-yo attacks in generals. It's such a unique weapon.

 

[Pyra]

If everybody in the smash community got together and made a smash game (besides the few who actually have) it would be interesting to see how you all would balance everything.

 

[LiteralGrill]

Yeah lol we can start with that. Both his Dsmash and his Usmash should be cancelable. I'd like to cancel the first hit of his Dsmash into maybe a backwards short hop Nair->Uair maybe? Maybe also make his Usmash come out faster to give him a quick ranged attack and if it's cancelable the opponent won't have a chance to move in while it's completing the arc. I don't know I'm not a competitive player. I'd also just like him to have more yo-yo attacks in generals. It's such a unique weapon.

I agree it's a seriously unique and would love to see done much better. Please Sakurai PLEASE!!!

 

[FalKoopa]

I hope New Age Retro Hippie makes it in the game somehow. Even if it's just an Assist Trophy.

I want the man who grumbles about today's youth.

 

[Rebellious Treecko]

I want the man who grumbles about today's youth.

But we already have Cranky Kong. (not in Smash yet, though)

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[TheWhiteBowser]

But we already have Cranky Kong. (not in Smash yet, though)

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EDIT in case you can't read what he's saying: Back in my day we didn't have "I have fury". all we had was "a winner is you!" You whippersnappers are all young punks with your "Japanimation" and your 3D adventure games, it makes me sick. You can take your fangled "DuDs" and shove em! Freaking future stuff; blah blah blah dribble dribble dribble.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Moonside stage please.

 

[JamesDNaux]

I actually thought on this one a bit, PK Teleport could actually work well for one of them. Yes, you had to run in a line to charge it up in the games, but as you progressed you could upgrade it to running in a circle. I imagine if either Ness or Lucas got the move as an Up B they would just start to rapidly spin in the air like a faster Mario Tornado and then explode off to the spot you aim the move. Seems like a pretty natural progression of the move to me.

 

[N3ON]

Moonside stage please.

This must happen. So... neony...

I'd live here.

 

[choknater]

rofl what a weird skin

 

[Diddy Kong]

This must happen. So... neony...

I'd live here.

Would always play that stage when I'm high. Always

 

[N3ON]

Would always play that stage when I'm high. Always

Well ofc that'd be the best only way to play it.

 

[Rebellious Treecko]

This must happen. So... neony...

I'd live here.

The stage should be flipped in order to make it complete, though.

 

[Mypantisgone]

Well Pit is pretty goofy and kindy stupid too.



EDIT: I didn't realise I was on the wrong page,that post looks a bit out of place.

 

[LiteralGrill]

Okay, real question time: I've mentioned I'm working on a project many times in this thread.

Well, let's say I can manage to get a table at Apex and give away some sort of random trinket with a logo on it. I'm looking at reasonably priced options. Obviously they'll be kinda lame, but what random promotional item isn't?

BUT I've narrowed down the list a tiny bit and wanna know what would be the LEAST lame. Give me opinions!

Pens (Ya know, ya write with them!)
Magnets (For sticking things to things!)
Tote Bags (like for carrying your gaming stuff!)
Hand Fans (It's flipping hot at Apex!)

Thoughts?

Edit: My wife suggested water bottles. Add that to ideas.

 

[MexM]

Okay, real question time: I've mentioned I'm working on a project many times in this thread.

Well, let's say I can manage to get a table at Apex and give away some sort of random trinket with a logo on it. I'm looking at reasonably priced options. Obviously they'll be kinda lame, but what random promotional item isn't?

BUT I've narrowed down the list a tiny bit and wanna know what would be the LEAST lame. Give me opinions!

Pens (Ya know, ya write with them!)
Magnets (For sticking things to things!)
Tote Bags (like for carrying your gaming stuff!)
Hand Fans (It's flipping hot at Apex!)

Thoughts?

Least lame? Tote Bags.

 

[Disfunkshunal]

Yeah probably tote bags.

 

[Holder of the Heel]

Moonside is good, but I'm not sure if I'd put that above Magicant or Empire Pork Building. Definitely more interesting than Saturn Valley however.

Pens (Ya know, ya write with them!)
Magnets (For sticking things to things!)
Tote Bags (like for carrying your gaming stuff!)
Hand Fans (It's flipping hot at Apex!)

Thoughts?

What if a person is flipping hot, wants to write, stick things to things, and carry their gaming stuff?

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Happy Birthday R.O.B.

 

[LiteralGrill]

Moonside is good, but I'm not sure if I'd put that above Magicant or Empire Pork Building. Definitely more interesting than Saturn Valley however.




What if a person is flipping hot, wants to write, stick things to things, and carry their gaming stuff?

... YOU MONSTER!

But a biog pack together of a couple things might be cool if I can afford it, I might have to have less packages of stuff but it'd be a though, maybe let people pick what they want... Hmm...