Super Mario Bros. Characters Discussion.

[Deleted member]

Speaking of move sets, here's one for Toad.

 

[jigglover]

Read this.
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=14837576&postcount=287

 

[Robert of Normandy]

Read this.
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=14837576&postcount=287

DON'T. FEED. THE. TROLLS.

Think of us like Yellowstone, except with more trolls and volcanic activity.

 

[jigglover]

Sorted nerd

 

[Metal Overlord]

Toad is the only Mario character left that I honestly even care about

 

[Onyx Oblivian]

Toad is the only Mario character left that I honestly even care about

Would make sense. Considering Toad is the last of the "Mario Big 8" that isn't playable in a Smash Bros. game yet haha

 

[jigglover]

The thing that annoys me is that yes, Toad has been in lots of games, but in most of them he is honestly useless. I mean in super mario 64 DS, he controls the rec room, which you can also use WITHOUT him straight from the start menu. Even in galaxy 2 does he only give you the occasional 1-up. My list could go on, and I might carry it on tonight.

 

[pokémoneinstein]

What I'm disappointed about is that they seem to be phasing him out of the series. He used to actually do things (SMB2, Wario's Woods, and just about every spinoff through the N64 era). Now, they seem to make him less and less important. He's completely gone from being playable Mario Tennis Open. Every game he's in, now, he does so little. He was excluded from Power Tennis, his appearance in the Baseball and Soccer series were as a generic species. Even if he shows up in the main Mario titles these days, he does nothing more than give you a star coin or a 1-up.

It's just disappointing.

 

[jigglover]

That's kind of what I said earlier, he was merely a ref throughout the M&SA(L2012)/(W)OG. Having only a speaking part in the latter which was only in the rather disappointing London Party mode. The only main-games that Toad has been playable in in AGES is NSMBW and NSMBU, and they're not even THE Toad, thet're a cdouple of generic ones. The only barely-useful Toads in the galaxy series was the bank toad and the less so mail toad. You can go through the whole of SM3DL, NSMB and NSMB2 without even seeing them if you don't buy any Toad houses! I'm not too disappointed by this, since he is certainly not my favourite character, but it is a little frustrating to be honest to see such a recognizable character reduced to THAT!

 

[SmasherMaster]

Actually the generic Toads might have only be there because the main Toad has red spots on his head. The blue and yellow toads are only there because the toad might be confused as Mario.

There was a similar problem for me in Kirby Return to Dreamland. My friends got confused between the yellow kirby and bandana dee.

 

[jigglover]

You're not kidding? You could call me a casual Mario gamer, I really just play them through and then again and look for things that may refer to other games or web-sites, such as this forum site, but even I can tell the Toad from Mario...

 

[Gene]

I've updated my Metal Mario move set. I'm not sure if I should make a thread for him, since there's a thread here discussing Mario Bros. characters. The only thing missing is his final smash and get up & edge attacks.


[COLLAPSE= "Metal Mario"]

Smash Moves:

Forward Smash: Toxic Gas- Metal Mario releases a purple cloud-like gas from his mouth and slowly starts to travel forward. It lasts for 5 seconds and deals 3% damage for each second. The gas cloud can be reflected, it can also fill G&W's bucket. Toxic Gas is from SM 64's Toxic Cavern stage.

Down Smash: Power Club: Metal Mario makes a swing backwards, then swings forward with his golf club.

Up Smash: Wrecking Ball: A bit similar to Mario's Forward smash from smash 64, but punches vertically in an uppercut pose.


Jab/Tilts/Dash Attack:

:abutton:-:abutton:-Combo- In a boxer style he swings his fist left, repeats with his right fist.

Forward tilt: stretches his leg out and kicks you. Similar to C. Falcons Fsmash from smash 64.

Down tilt: crouches and swings both of his fists in a full circle.

Up tilt: pushes upward, like hitting a volley ball.

Dash Attack: Torpedo: Metal Mario leaps on his stomach, arms at his side, and slides forward scraping the floor at a speed equivalent to Wario's side B at full speed. The length of the dash is the length of Smashville's platform.


Grabs:

Pummel: Punches you.

Up grab: throws you up with one arm.

Down Grab: picks you up and body slams you.

Back Grab: tosses you backwards.

Forward Grab: Pushes you hard.


Aerials:

Nair: Mario's Fair from smash 64. It's stronger if you hold it longer.

Bair: Metal Mario stretches horizontally and punches backwards.

Dair: Hammer Head: Does a quick front flip, arms crossed with his head sticking out. It can spike you.

Fair: Power Racket: swings his tennis racket side ways. Sends opponent away horizontally.

Uair: Overhand: Does an overhand swing with his tennis racket. Sends opponent away in a diagonal downwards path at higher percentages, sends opponent away in a diagonal upwards path at lower percentages.


Specials:

Neutral :bbutton:: Coin Cyclone/Gold Flower- Metal Mario shoots a gold spinning fire ball from his hand that works like a smaller version of Metaknight's tornado. The fire ball will travel horizontally but can be slightly angled like pits arrows. The speed of it will be as fast as Ness' PK Fire, lasts about 4 seconds. When you get caught in it there will be Mario coin sounds while you're taking damage. Random amounts of coins, that range from 1-10 coins, will fall after you've used this move. If you pick one up it'll heal you (1%), but they don't heal your opponent. Coins come only if you've hit your opponent or a crate/barrel. Two cyclones can be out at the same time. Also when you're at high percentage the end result of the cyclone turns you into a golden statue for a brief moment(2 seconds).


Down :bbutton:: Shell Shock- When used in the air Metal Mario falls very fast in a straight pose head first, like his entrance from Melee. When he hits the ground the impact creates a shock wave around him and pushes you away while doing electric damage to his opponent. You're able to angle his trajectory in downward positions. It can be cancelled by shielding or doing any A or B move but he'll still fall fast. But if you use your Up B then your momentum drastically slows down, but not fully. If you use this move on the ground then he'll stand straight up and do a front flip while landing head first, causing the same type of shock wave as the aerial one. Once he hits the ground there's a 2 second lag. This move can spike.

Side:bbutton:: B Dasher: Metal Mario gets in his B Dasher kart and drives fast horizontally. This move is chargeable, the longer the charge the faster and farther you'll go. If you knock/grab MM out of his kart then the kart spins out of control and disappears . You cannot change direction like Wario's bike. Being attacked from the front has good knock back, if attacked from behind the kart will burn you with little damage.

Up :bbutton:: Cave Bat- The bats from SM 64 Toxic Cavern stage. His recovery works like Snake's. After you let go of the bat, it will swoop in towards the nearest enemy and do 4% damage when hit. Bat is block able.


Get Up and Edge Attacks: ...


Final Smash: ....



Taunts: References from SM 64(except side taunt)

Down- Takes out 8 red coins from behind and juggles them. He puts them back after he juggles all 8, if you attack him then he drops all the coins and they bounce away from him and disappear.

Side- Knocks on his head twice. Makes a metal hollow sound.

Up-A green box appears over his head. Metal Mario jumps up and breaks the box, next you hear the first second of the Metal Mario theme from Super Mario 64. Link to video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Hxh2h3P70Q&feature=youtube_gdata_player


Stage Entrance:

Metal Mario drifts onto the stage with his B Dasher kart from Mario Kart 7. He quickly hops out as the kart continues to drive off.

Victories & Loss:

1):Loses balance and falls on his back. He slowly starts to get up like in Melee, but falls back again.

2): Metal Mario swoops by while driving the B Dasher kart from MK DS/MK 7. Starts to do endless donuts.

3): Two tires fall from the sky and stack up. Metal Mario leans on them like his MK 7 artwork.

4): Loss: Metal Mario holds his head and shakes it back and forth in an irritated way.

[/COLLAPSE]

 

[8-peacock-8]

Why not give metal Mario the wing cap for the up special.

 

[Arcadenik]

Ugh. I hate the idea of Metal Mario more than I hate the idea of Waluigi. The Metal Box item is fine as is.

Also, the reason they got generic Toads in NSMB games is because they wanted characters to represent yellow and blue since Mario and Luigi already represented red and green. It is clear that Nintendo would rather use generic Toads over Wario and Waluigi... Meaning Toad(s) > Wario and Waluigi in terms of importance within the Mario series in Nintendo's eyes.

 

[splat]

It is clear that Nintendo would rather use generic Toads over Wario and Waluigi... Meaning Toad(s) > Wario and Waluigi in terms of importance within the Mario series in Nintendo's eyes.

Either that, or Nintendo sees Wario and Waluigi unfit to be in a SMB game.

Wario and Waluigi are often portrayed as antiheroes - greedy *******s who only do something if there's something in it for them. Their entire character does not seem to work with the idea of NSMB.
Or, even a simpler reason - they are launching the NSMB games as a throwback to the past. The original SMB games were released before the inception of Wario and Waliugi; it could be the reason why they're not there but Toad is.

 

[Cobalsh]

What I'm disappointed about is that they seem to be phasing him out of the series. He used to actually do things (SMB2, Wario's Woods, and just about every spinoff through the N64 era). Now, they seem to make him less and less important. He's completely gone from being playable Mario Tennis Open. Every game he's in, now, he does so little. He was excluded from Power Tennis, his appearance in the Baseball and Soccer series were as a generic species. Even if he shows up in the main Mario titles these days, he does nothing more than give you a star coin or a 1-up.

It's just disappointing.

The reason he's phased out into unintelligible unimportance is because Toadsworth has taken his place as the "important Toad."

 

[Deleted member]

Either that, or Nintendo sees Wario and Waluigi unfit to be in a SMB game.

Wario and Waluigi are often portrayed as antiheroes - greedy *******s who only do something if there's something in it for them. Their entire character does not seem to work with the idea of NSMB.
Or, even a simpler reason - they are launching the NSMB games as a throwback to the past. The original SMB games were released before the inception of Wario and Waliugi; it could be the reason why they're not there but Toad is.

This.
Also, bear in mind that Waluigi is tall as Hell. Characters that are within the Bros.' sizes are the only ones that could work unless special treatment was given to compensate for greater size or lackthereof.
Making Toads as tall as Mario? Not that big of a deal. Making Waluigi as short as Mario? Horribly changes him.

Also, Wario is known for near invincibility from being touched (it requires sharp objects or projectiles, etc.), so it kind of takes away from that to make him just like Mario in that one hit from a Goomba shrinks him, and another kills him.

 

[Arcadenik]

The reason he's phased out into unintelligible unimportance is because Toadsworth has taken his place as the "important Toad."

Actually, it is Toadsworth who is being phased out. He isn't in Super Mario Galaxy, New Super Mario Bros. Wii, Super Mario Galaxy 2, Super Mario 3D Land, and New Super Mario Bros. 2.

 

[jigglover]

Actually, it is Toadsworth who is being phased out. He isn't in Super Mario Galaxy, New Super Mario Bros. Wii, Super Mario Galaxy 2, Super Mario 3D Land, and New Super Mario Bros. 2.

In fact, I think he's only been in sunshine and NSMB, both of which he played supporting roles. In fact, in sunshine it's possible to only speak to Toadsworth about three times, and in NSMB, you can go through the game without seeing him at all!

 

[Robert of Normandy]

In fact, I think he's only been in sunshine and NSMB, both of which he played supporting roles. In fact, in sunshine it's possible to only speak to Toadsworth about three times, and in NSMB, you can go through the game without seeing him at all!

Toadsworth still shows up in RPGs. He's been in Superstar Saga and Bowser's Inside Story(I haven't played Partners in Time, so I don't know if he was in that one).

 

[splat]

Toadsworth still shows up in RPGs. He's been in Superstar Saga and Bowser's Inside Story(I haven't played Partners in Time, so I don't know if he was in that one).

There's actually two versions of Toadsworth in Partners in Time - Toadsworth and 'Toadsworth the Younger'. Toadsworth appeared in every M&L game so far. It's too bad that he doesn't appear as much, he is one of my favorite characters in the Mario series (along with E. Gadd and Pianta).

I'd much rather have a playable Toadsworth than a playable Toad. Call me mad, but I just like the elderly fellow.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Metal Mario as a separate entity is heavily redundant, since Mario can just grab a Metal Box to temporarily become Metal Mario.

 

[pokémoneinstein]

In fact, I think he's only been in sunshine and NSMB, both of which he played supporting roles. In fact, in sunshine it's possible to only speak to Toadsworth about three times, and in NSMB, you can go through the game without seeing him at all!

Super Mario Sunshine - Supporting character
Double Dash - Drives the awards car
Superstar Saga - Supporting character
Paper Mario 2 - Minor character, but memorable for the paper appearance
Mario Power Tennis - Referee
Mario Party 7 - Organizes an event at the end
Partners in Time - Major character
New Super Mario Bros. - Toad House owner
Superstar Baseball - Playable character
Super Sluggers - Playable character
Yakuman DS - Final boss
Bowser's Inside Story - Minor character (I completely forgot he was even there)
Brawl - Trophy and sticker
Fortune Street - Name mentioned by Toad

It's clear that he's dwindles in recent years. His peak was with the Baseball games, and he's barely done anything at all since

 

[Jhonnykiller45]

Ugh. I hate the idea of Metal Mario more than I hate the idea of Waluigi. The Metal Box item is fine as is.

Also, the reason they got generic Toads in NSMB games is because they wanted characters to represent yellow and blue since Mario and Luigi already represented red and green. It is clear that Nintendo would rather use generic Toads over Wario and Waluigi... Meaning Toad(s) > Wario and Waluigi in terms of importance within the Mario series in Nintendo's eyes.

OR... Nintendo was just lazy and put in the two Toads that nobody cares about to fill in the 3rd and 4th player slots since they probably must've been easier to make, being recolors of one-another.
Also, Arcadenik, you keep mentioning these two Toads as if they actually meant something (yellow and blue Toads being added to represent colors ? Really ?) or as if people actually cared for them.
And I'm pretty sure alot of people would've prefered to see Wario and Waluigi instead of 2 ******** generic Toads.

 

[Spydr Enzo]

OR... Nintendo was just lazy and put in the two Toads that nobody cares about to fill in the 3rd and 4th player slots since they probably must've been easier to make, being recolors of one-another.
Also, Arcadenik, you keep mentioning these two Toads as if they actually meant something (yellow and blue Toads being added to represent colors ? Really ?) or as if people actually cared for them.
And I'm pretty sure alot of people would've prefered to see Wario and Waluigi instead of 2 ******** generic Toads.

Arcadenik's comment makes sense to me.

Regardless of whether or not Nintendo was "lazy", Toad was still playable, and I'm sure there were many people who were happy to play as Toad. It sure shows that Nintendo sees Toad's as more relevant characters than characters like Waluigi.

 

[Deleted member]

Also, bear in mind that Waluigi is tall as Hell. Characters that are within the Bros.' sizes are the only ones that could work unless special treatment was given to compensate for greater size or lackthereof.
Making Toads as tall as Mario? Not that big of a deal. Making Waluigi as short as Mario? Horribly changes him.

Also, Wario is known for near invincibility from being touched (it requires sharp objects or projectiles, etc.), so it kind of takes away from that to make him just like Mario in that one hit from a Goomba shrinks him, and another kills him.

This is why Wario and Waluigi will never be Players 3 and 4 in games like New Super Mario Bros. Wii and U.

Now, if the game is like Super Mario Bros. 2, where the characters have their own stats and abilities, THEN it could happen.

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

im assuming by colors you mean the color of the players. Red, Blue, Green, and Yellow. Other than that i dont really see any significance

 

[BKupa666]

This is why Wario and Waluigi will never be Players 3 and 4 in games like New Super Mario Bros. Wii and U.

Now, if the game is like Super Mario Bros. 2, where the characters have their own stats and abilities, THEN it could happen.

This is one of the very few games I would buy a Wii U for. This is also one of the very few games I have absolute confidence that Nintendo will never revisit. That and, like, Conker's Bad Fur Day.

SMB2 is also one of the few games that allows Toad to be anything but a wallflower. Seriously, at least half of his current fanbase must like him for being awesome in that game.

 

[SmasherMaster]

Pros and Cons to Each Mario character

Toad
+ He is one of the main eight mario characters
+ He is already in Peach's moveset
+ He is seen in almost every single Mario game
- He is generic
- The main Toad is never playable except in the sport games.

Bowser Junior
+ He is the second most recurring Mario villian after Bowser
+ Could have a unique playstyle with his paintbrush
- He might end up being a Bowser clone
- He never really does any fighting himself. He usually fights you when he is in a giant robot

Paper Mario
+ He would represent a popular minor Mario series
+ Has a huge moveset potential between not only his paperness, but also various badges and of course his hammer
- He is just a 2D Mario in a 2D world. He may be turned into a clone because of this.

Waluigi
+ Was an Assits Trophy
+ A popular Mario spinoff character
- Never appeared in a mario adventure game

Rosalina
+ Has been in two of the most recent Mario games.
+ I would love to see her throw Star Bits at her opponents.
- She never fights

Princess Daisy
+ A popular Mario spinoff character
+ She has a baby which none of these character do
- She has only appeared once in a Mario adventure series as a damsel in distress

King Boo
+ Has interacted with all four of the Mario reps
+ He is a recurring boss
- He floats so he will have trouble making

Fawful
+ A consonant character in the Mario and Luigi games.
- He has not appeared outside of the Mario and Luigi series.

Geno
+ He is higly requested from fans of the game.
+ He made stars more than a random powerup.
- He has only appeared in one game.
- HE is techincally a 3rd party character.
- He hasn't appeared in more than 15 years.

 

[Ember Reaper]

Pros and Cons to Each Mario character

Toad
+ He is one of the main eight mario characters
+ He is seen in almost every single Mario game
- He is already in Peach's moveset
- He is generic
- The main Toad is never playable except in the sport games.

Bowser Junior
+ He is the second most recurring Mario villian after Bowser
+ Could have a unique playstyle with his paintbrush
- He might end up being a Bowser clone
- He never really does any fighting himself. He usually fights you when he is in a giant robot

Paper Mario
+ He would represent a popular minor Mario series
+ Has a huge moveset potential between not only his paperness, but also various badges and of course his hammer
- He is just a 2D Mario in a 2D world. He may be turned into a clone because of this.

Waluigi
+ Was an Assist Trophy
+ A popular Mario spinoff character
- Never appeared in a mario adventure game
- Huge hate base

Rosalina
+ Has been in two of the most recent Mario games.
+ I would love to see her throw Star Bits at her opponents. (not a reason)
- She never fights

Princess Daisy
+ A popular Mario spinoff character
+ She has a baby which none of these character do
+ She has appeared once in a Mario adventure series as a damsel in distress

King Boo
+ Has interacted with all four of the Mario reps
+ He is a recurring boss
- He floats so he will have trouble making

Fawful
+ A consonant character in the Mario and Luigi games.
+ Villain
- He has not appeared outside of the Mario and Luigi series.

Geno
+ He is higly requested from fans of the game.
+ He made stars more than a random powerup.
- He has only appeared in one game. (Ice climbers, Sheik, Lucas)
- HE is techincally a 3rd party character.
- He hasn't appeared in more than 15 years. (Pit, R.O.B.)

Fixed, that feels so rude to say...

 

[N3ON]

Pros and Cons to Each Mario character

Toad
+ He is one of the main eight mario characters
+ He is already in Peach's moveset
This is also seen by some as a negative. In reality, it is neither a pro not a con.
+ He is seen in almost every single Mario game
- He is generic
He is one of his species. The main Toad is not generic.
- The main Toad is never playable except in the sport games.
The main Toad has been playable in SMB2 and Wario's Woods, though characters that have never even had one playable appearance have been included in Smash before.
- Even though he is generally popular, he is barely requested for Smash compared to other Mario characters, especially in Japan.
- Sakurai might think he isn't suitable for fighting.

Bowser Junior
+ He is the second most recurring Mario villian after Bowser
+ Could have a unique playstyle with his paintbrush
+ Overall most requested Mario character (though not by alot)
- He might end up being a Bowser clone
He would still be included though, so while not preferable, it's not a point against him.
- He never really does any fighting himself. He usually fights you when he is in a giant robot
He has shown as much fighting potential as a number of other candidates here.
- Decreasing number of main title appearances.

Paper Mario
+ He would represent a popular minor Mario series
+ Has a huge moveset potential between not only his paperness, but also various badges and of course his hammer
- He is just a 2D Mario in a 2D world. He may be turned into a clone because of this.
Many of regular Mario's attacks wouldn't work well here. If Sakurai wanted a Mario clone, he would just re-add Dr. Mario.
- Not on average as requested or popular as Toad, Bowser Jr, or Waluigi

Waluigi
+ Was an Assits Trophy
+ A popular Mario spinoff character
- Never appeared in a mario adventure game

Rosalina
+ Has been in two of the most recent Mario games.
+ I would love to see her throw Star Bits at her opponents.
Great. I'd love to shoot characters as Tatanga, does that make him more likely?
- She never fights
Characters that have never even had one playable appearance have been included in Smash before.
- Not nearly as popular as the "main 4"
- Appearances could possibly be relegated to spin-offs.

Princess Daisy
+ A popular Mario spinoff character
Her popularity is debatable, but regardless she's not as popular as the "main 4"
+ She has a baby which none of these character do
...So?
+ She would be an easy semi-clone
- She has only appeared once in a Mario adventure series as a damsel in distress

King Boo
+ Has interacted with all four of the Mario reps
So have most of these characters.
+ He is a recurring boss
- He floats so he will have trouble making
- Not nearly as popular or requested as other characters

Fawful
+ A consonant character in the Mario and Luigi games.
- He has not appeared outside of the Mario and Luigi series.
- Not nearly as popular or requested as other characters

Geno
+ He is higly requested from fans of the game.
+ He made stars more than a random powerup.
This is sort of important in the Mario series, but it has no effect on his chances.
- He has only appeared in one game.
Technically two, but yeah...
- HE is techincally a 3rd party character.
- He hasn't appeared in more than 15 years.
- His popularity is declining

Criticisms in red. Additions in aqua. Cuz aquas how I roll.

@Ember Reaper
Even if he has lots of haters as well, it's pretty undeniable that Waluigi has popularity.

 

[Deleted member]

Err...Waluigi is the most requested, not Jr.
At least in Japan if we go by what Chrono found.

 

[N3ON]

Err...Waluigi is the most requested, not Jr.
At least in Japan if we go by what Chrono found.

The Japanese sites I checked actually has Bowser Jr being just as requested as Waluigi for the most part, though Waluigi still has more popularity over there in general. But I don't doubt Chrono or anything, he probably checked more reputable Smash sites or something.

And yeah, on here Waluigi is more requested (or at least popular) than Bowser Jr ATM, but even on previous polls Bowser Jr usually tops Waluigi. I've seen Bowser Jr beat out Waluigi elsewhere too, but as I don't have any proof right now (and Waluigi definitely beats Bowser Jr in a good deal of them as well), I'll concede that Waluigi probably is the most requested (though he also has waves of anti-fans), but Bowser Jr is a close second. Whatever the result may be, it's clear that in general they are the two most requested by a fair amount.

 

[Deleted member]

Anti-fans just means he is controversial. Which means he has discussion.

Kind of like how Ridley is controversial with both supporters and detractors.

 

[N3ON]

Yeah, I don't think his detractors will actually effect his chances or anything (as he still has alot of popularity everywhere as well, unlike someone such as Tingle), and really the only reason he's gotten this many requests is almost totally due to popularity (it sure isn't because of importance to the series ), but it's pretty undeniable he's got alot more detractors than any other serious Mario contender.

Plus with Ridley alot of the detractors still like the character, they just think he wouldn't work in Smash. Waluigi anti-fans mostly just point out how they much don't like the character.

In any case, I'm looking forward to his day in Rate Their Chances tomorrow.

 

[Jhonnykiller45]

Arcadenik's comment makes sense to me.

Regardless of whether or not Nintendo was "lazy", Toad was still playable, and I'm sure there were many people who were happy to play as Toad. It sure shows that Nintendo sees Toad's as more relevant characters than characters like Waluigi.

Uhh no... ?
Kinopio wasn't playable in NSMBW, only his dumb*** cousins were.

 

[N3ON]

Uhh no... ?
Kinopio wasn't playable in NSMBW, only his dumb*** cousins were.

Getting into semantics like this is only going to cause more generic Toad arguments. It's true, it wasn't the Toad that was playable, but even generic Toads having playability helps Toad's chances (though definitely not as much as if it were actually the Toad), as he is capable of pretty much anything they are, and the species (of which he is by and large the representative of) is still getting more focus than usual.

If he was included the blue and yellow Toads would probably be alt colours anyway, just like how different Yoshis are Yoshi's alt colours.

 

[Onyx Oblivian]

In any case, I'm looking forward to his day in Rate Their Chances tomorrow.

Oh that's tomorrow??

Tomorrow is going to be.... Interesting. And very, very controversial.

He has a genuine hate-base. But that's just it. A hate base. I hope they don't blindly let their personal want score leak into his likeliness score

And He is the most popular spin-off only character. (in fact, he may be the only one with a chance).

EDIT: Oh a couple of Toad posts Ninja'd my reply haha dang it

 

[Deleted member]

@Neon:

SOON.

 

[N3ON]

I wonder if someone will use a BitF Waluigi pic in that thread tomorrow before I get a chance to...

Spoiler

...Well now someone probably will... dammit lol.