Super Heroes Mafia: Day 7 ends! Nabe and Circus wins! Zen dies in end game!

[Radical Fiction]

*double sigh combo*

 

[~ Gheb ~]

His power is either "Yes" or "No." That's a 50/50 that he can take an educated guess at further bettering his odds.

And in the same hand it gives us a 50/50 chance of outing him as scum so what you see as a door closing, I see as a door opening.

 

[Radical Fiction]

What pisses me off is that your method of "clearing him" doesn't clear him, only might out him. That makes you STILL look terrible whereas lynching Circus would make all my problems go away.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

whereas lynching Circus would make all my problems go away.

Nobody cares about your problems.

 

[Radical Fiction]

Zen/Beat, I see you there. Do you care about my problems?

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Please say you don't *crosses fingers*

 

[Radical Fiction]

Going to dentist. Gonna be in the chair about 2 hours and it'll take me at least another hour going there and getting back. Then I'm probably going to sleep off my aching mouth, so I dunno when I'll be back.

 

[Xivii]

Beat makes me angry.

 

[Xivii]

JTB makes me angry.

 

[Circus]

Circus, you will not confirm Hep's 1335. Confirm something that you couldn't possibly confirm with the mere knowledge advantage that the mafia has by default [I have nothing concrete yet but I'll make sure to find something]. Consider this an attempt to ultimately clear yourself so it's in your best interest to follow my ideas - my clear status depends on you at the moment so be aware that I'm genuinely questioning your claim from a town PoV. You know I'm town, whether you're what you claimed or you scum.

I'm cool with this, but a clear task would definitely help me out. I don't want to pick something and then come back on D3 and have you guys say it's not good enough. Want me to use the post where GLG claims his character and role or something?

Circus, can you detect stuff that the posters themselves don't know for sure? For example, if you check a post where someone says "Player X is scum", does it still confirm if it's true or not, even if the poster didn't really know?

To my understanding, no. I can detect if the player was lying, not whether the statement itself is a lie, if you see the difference.

I don't care if GLG guards me; I doubt I'll really be a choice target for the mafia as it is, even with my claim, since I apparently still look scummy anyway. Might be better to guard Gheb since he's clear. GLG's free to use his better judgment on that one. Let scum guess.

@Zen: What about Beat makes you angry? That super opportunistic Hep vote? You know I'm good for that lynch.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

I'd like to know where GLG stands currently.

 

[Beat!]

@Circus

To my understanding, no. I can detect if the player was lying, not whether the statement itself is a lie, if you see the difference.

Yes, I understand.

@Gheb

Circus, you will not confirm Hep's 1335. Confirm something that you couldn't possibly confirm with the mere knowledge advantage that the mafia has by default [I have nothing concrete yet but I'll make sure to find something]. Consider this an attempt to ultimately clear yourself so it's in your best interest to follow my ideas - my clear status depends on you at the moment so be aware that I'm genuinely questioning your claim from a town PoV. You know I'm town, whether you're what you claimed or you scum.

Have you found anything yet? I've been searching myself, but haven't found anything particularly useful. Did you have anything particular in mind?

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

=//////////

I'd imagine Gheb can handle it. You should scumhunt, or comment on the pages you've missed at least, rather than inserting yourself into other issues.

 

[JTB]

Apologies for taking so long, I've never replaced into a game that has progressed so far. My mindset was, I'll just reread a whole bunch of times and absorb the entire thread. Few days later, my brain has melted down and I remember why I could never cram for tests in college. So I'll just throw my **** out and work with it from there.

Zen, I don't know what Vand had in mind. He might have been on to something that I didn't see, but if it was really as big as he claimed it was, then I should've been able to see it. So I don't know what to think about it.

RF is obvtown. I feel like his play is much different from that of his SK play in dissidia (e.g not trolling his scumpicks to the ends of the earth). Meta aside, looks like he's legitimately scumhunting, not being opportunistic like some of the other players in here, and I haven't seen anything scummy about him.

Don't like Circus at all and I think his claim is bull. I don't agree with his strategy of 'focusing on inactives' because it allows him to coast until said player becomes active. Not being able to take firm stances after D1 is bull as well, anyone can put in some effort and take a stance with the connections of the D1/N1 flips. Vote on RF sounds like a total OMGUS vote.

As for his claim, it's stupidly safe and his 'clear' of Gheb isn't true at all. Scum knows who is town, so it's easy as **** to fake. And even if Gheb is the SK as RF claims he is, he's not about to claim SK just to prove Circus wrong.

Vote Circus

(then I notice the votecount and everyone is on Hep for some reason >_>)

Idk about Hep, I'll have to look at her later today. Nothing stood out scummy to me.

rofl @ RR faking a posting restriction, he definitely stole that from RF in dissidia, although RF did a much better job taking stances and contributing whereas RR isn't really doing **** at all. Null for now.

Don't really know about Gheb, he's not playing like scumGheb in dissidia and I have no clue how to read someone as indy.

Zen is null for me. I don't like how he says that his 1 shot vig on X1 clears him, then backs himself up by self-metaing that he does this every game. Also don't like his 989. I seem to remember liking Zen while reading D1 though, so null.

KevM more inactive than he is in Bingo. I liked his posts with Tom during D1, it's a shame he's not active because I feel like he could contribute alot.

Beatstick town for me, I need to reread his wagon and see if people have a legit scumread on him or if they are just being opportunistic (assuming the latter).

dgaf about GLG and Nabe right now, might change later.

>Sees ranmaru in game

ugh.

 

[Xivii]

@Circus


Yes, I understand.

@Gheb


Have you found anything yet? I've been searching myself, but haven't found anything particularly useful. Did you have anything particular in mind?

wtf are you doing?

 

[Xivii]

glg should not protect Gheb or Circus. If scum kills Gheb and he is Indy, then we know that Circus' claim is a lie.

glg as I said before should protect one of RF and Nabe and only one of RF and Nabe.

 

[Xivii]

@Hep: You said you currently have a town read on me. When was it that you gained this read? And why?

Zen is null for me. I don't like how he says that his 1 shot vig on X1 clears him, then backs himself up by self-metaing that he does this every game. Also don't like his 989. I seem to remember liking Zen while reading D1 though, so null.

I didn't back up that I was clear based on Meta. I defended myself against the points Hep was making on me by showing her that those were just general things that I do every game and were pretty much null.

@Clown: You missed one of my questions. Also do you think Ryu is faking his restriction?
@Rad: Do you think Ryu is faking his restriction?
@Ran: Do you think Ryu is faking his restriction?
@Hep: Do you think Ryu is faking his restriction?
@Beat: Do you think Ryu is faking his restriction?

 

[Xivii]

What does dgaf mean?

 

[Beat!]

@Zen
?

@JTB

Zen, I don't know what Vand had in mind. He might have been on to something that I didn't see, but if it was really as big as he claimed it was, then I should've been able to see it. So I don't know what to think about it.

So what's your read on him?

Don't really know about Gheb, he's not playing like scumGheb in dissidia and I have no clue how to read someone as indy.

So you think he's town, then? Did Circus' claim change your read on him?

KevM more inactive than he is in Bingo. I liked his posts with Tom during D1, it's a shame he's not active because I feel like he could contribute alot.

Could you quote some of those posts, and tell us what you liked about them?

dgaf about GLG and Nabe right now, might change later.

I thought the people on my wagon either had a legit scum read or were being opportunistic? GLG and Nabe were the ones who started the wagon on me. Shouldn't you be focused on them if they're being opportunistic?

dgaf=dont give a ****

 

[Beat!]

@Beat: Do you think Ryu is faking his restriction?

Not really, but since this rule is in place, he should break it to prove himself:

11. Breaking any sort of posting restriction will result in a punishment of having a permanent vote on you, meaning you take one less to lynch. These punishments can never kill you alone, but one vote and many punishments can.

 

[Radical Fiction]

glg should not protect Gheb or Circus.

Thank you.

 

[Radical Fiction]

Yes, Zen, I do think he's faking it.

Unvote Vote Circus

I can promise a favorable outcome.

 

[JTB]

So what's your read on him?

Null, I went back to Zen later in my post.

So you think he's town, then? Did Circus' claim change your read on him?

Town or indy. Circus' claim didn't change anything because I don't believe it.

Could you quote some of those posts, and tell us what you liked about them?

Will do in next post.

I thought the people on my wagon either had a legit scum read or were being opportunistic? GLG and Nabe were the ones who started the wagon on me. Shouldn't you be focused on them if they're being opportunistic?

I said I would go over your wagon later on. So I'll get to GLG and Nabe eventually.

 

[JTB]

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=12407806#post12407806
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=12406280#post12406280
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=12406228#post12406228

To give a few. Idk I just like the way he thinks, I didn't delve too much into it because he never came off as scummy to me.

bbl

 

[Xivii]

Null, I went back to Zen later in my post.

Think he was talking about Ran.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Yeah it's probably better to just lynch Circus.

Vote Circus

 

[JTB]

Ran falls in the category of people I need to look at later.

 

[Circus]

@Clown: You missed one of my questions.

Circus were you playing the way you have been to stay off of scums radar or have you just been playing as you would any other way?

This the one? I'm not trying particularly hard to stay off scum's radar, no. I really have no idea what it is about my play that everyone seems to think is so scummy; I kind of feel like I'm just being punished for actually posting and playing the game. What I'm getting from people in general is that they don't like that I targeted inactives earlier in the game (which is something Gheb has actually suggested doing recently, and something Kevin has done all game) and that I'm "not scumhunting" or that I at least wasn't scumhunting. And apparently everyone else in the game has been doing it the whole time, overtly and effectively.

Also do you think Ryu is faking his restriction?

No.

Unvote

Vote: BeatStick

Since that's apparently the only one of my top suspects that seems to have any chance of actually getting to the noose. For what it's worth, less than 48 hours 'til deadline.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Like you say, deadline's a-callin'. GLG and Hep can wait until toMorrow.

Unvote, Vote: Circus

 

[Radical Fiction]

FYI, no turning back now. GLG, if you really are a body guard, I need you should Clown flip town. If he's not, then there's almost certainly another protective who SHOULD BE ON MY *** if he does flip town.

Also, everyone in the game should post saying that they are town.

 

[Overswarm]

Votecount:

Beatstick - GLG, Red Ryu, Zen, Circus,
HepAlien - ranmaru, Beatstick,
Radical Fiction - MOD,
Circus - JTB, Radical Fiction, Gheb, Nabe,
Not Voting: HepAlien, Moriarty,

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
A deadline has been set for Friday, April 15th, at 3:00 p.m. EST.

 

[giraffelasergun]

FYI, no turning back now. GLG, if you really are a body guard, I need you should Clown flip town. If he's not, then there's almost certainly another protective who SHOULD BE ON MY *** if he does flip town.

Also, everyone in the game should post saying that they are town.

Whats the point in the "I'm town" post if were lynching the one person who claimed to be the lie detector.

Right now I feel like beat or Circus should def go today, but I'm leaning more towards circus since his claim isn't actually provable and we'd be probably going back to him him every day phase after this one trying to get rid of him once and for all. Unless, Zen can you get rid of him?

I'll protect who I want to protect, but I'm not going to say who that is publically.

 

[Xivii]

Vote: glg

Rad are you counter claiming? Or are you like governor?

I really don't believe glg. This dude was saying all day that he would lynch no one but Beat and now he is trying to get on the claimed cop wagon over him.................

 

[giraffelasergun]

Its obvious beat isn't going to be lynched today. We need to get a lynch zen.

 

[Xivii]

That's not the reason you gave. Your reason is the Circus' claim isn't provable. You mention nothing about not being able to get a beat lynch nor do you even try to get it more push. Die mofo

 

[Xivii]

And there are just as many people on Beat as there is on Circus and you know that Nabe and Gheb would be down for lynching him.

omg get lynched already

 

[Xivii]

Look Rad + Clown voters. I agree that he so scummy, but we are not in a do or die situation, and because of his claim, it makes sense to lynch someone else and further obtain results from Circus over the night whether they are false scum results or legit circus-town results. This especially makes sense because he may obtain scum results. If that is the case, his ability will almost certainly be proved by us simply lynching the person that he got a guilty on. There are so many scummy people today that it logically makes sense to allow Circus another day because of his claim even if we do think he is still scum. The only reason I would lynch him if we have gurantees that he is lying (ig Rad cc). Otherwise it makes more sense to lynch one the other so scummies: glg, Ran, Beat. (That is the order I would proritize).

glg is now by far the most scummy player. And we actually have evidence/scum slips from him. The others we have based more based in circumstance and hypothetical reasoning.

glg has clearly just slipped up here. He has tunneled Beat all day and has said that he would not switch unless he absolutely had to. And now he his saying that he is leaning toward lynching clown over Beat. Not only is this inconsistent, but his reasoning is totally faulty. He has shown no concern at all for lynching Circus before, yet his reasoning for leaning toward his lynch is soley because "his ability cannot be proven". This reasoning would only make sense as a supplement to think that Circus was scum for other reasons (for example Ryker). But as reasoning all on its own for wanting to lynch him, it makes no sense. It's completely faulty. On top of this, glg's ability has just as much chance (maybe even less) of being proven. As scum he can easily say he bodyguarded anyone that is still living the following day. If Circus gets a guilty he can pretty much be proven. There is no way to prove glg so long that he is alive, and he has just as much (or less) of a chance of bodyguarding scum's nk and dying as Circus does of getting a guilty on someone. So by glg's faulty logic, we should be lynching him today because "his ability cannot be proved". glg using this logic to move over to the clown wagon is the most direct scumtell I've seen all game.

 

[Radical Fiction]

Look Rad + Clown voters. I agree that he so scummy, but we are not in a do or die situation, and because of his claim, it makes sense to lynch someone else and further obtain results from Circus over the night whether they are false scum results or legit circus-town results.

We are in a do or Rad Fic's a VT situation.

If I haven't hinted it enough, I'm town back-up and have targeted Circus. I will get his night results or he will be scum and die.

 

[Radical Fiction]

EBWOP: Night results and ability.

 

[Radical Fiction]

And I want everyone else to say they're town in thread before Twilight.