Super Heroes Mafia: Day 7 ends! Nabe and Circus wins! Zen dies in end game!

[#HBC | Nabe]

I am of the opinion that Gheb is a poopie.
@Mod, this is a true statement.

 

[Circus]

You should verify Nabe's claim. He's not even claiming to be town.

Nabe's post is super weirdly worded and I'd be willing to lasso it if we lynch GLG, but otherwise I'd rather lasso GLG's claim post. Assuming I don't get lynched myself. I mean, I guess RadFic would do it if I die, assuming he's really what he says he is.

Nabe's newest post is better but it's still weird.

And I still don't quite see how glg's switch is that scummy. Hmmmmmmm...

Like I said, the only reason I can think of for GLG wanting to switch to me all of a sudden, rather than Beat, is because I suggested the idea of trying to verify his role claim as a means of possibly proving my ability. I assume he doesn't like the idea of that happening because I'll come back with results that he won't like.

Although he isn't voting for me yet so I guess don't know.

Everything that's happening right now really makes me want to post #NotIntendedToBeAFactualStatement on something.

 

[Circus]

Actually, nevermind about the lasso-ing Nabe's post thing. It wouldn't tell me anything since, if he worded it funny for a reason, it would have been to work around my ability.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Can we lynch Kevin and call it a day?

 

[Xivii]

And I still don't quite see how glg's switch is that scummy. Hmmmmmmm...

Did you read my #1397? It's a clear scum move. He has not once expressed dislike of Circus this game. He has made it clear that Beat is his strongest scum read and has shown that he would lynch him over anybody:

I want beat lynched today. I will not remove my vote from beat today unless mod confirmed information says hes town. He is the lynch today.

I would if it was obvious Beat would not be lynched and someone had an amazing case/deadline was in under 24 hours.

So to put it more simply.

glg has no concern for Circus
glg is 9999.700% on Beat being scum

But then glg comes in, sees people voting Circus and is like:

Right now I feel like beat or Circus should def go today, but I'm leaning more towards circus since his claim isn't actually provable and we'd be probably going back to him him every day phase after this one trying to get rid of him once and for all. Unless, Zen can you get rid of him?

I'll protect who I want to protect, but I'm not going to say who that is publically.

He's being fake, Gheb. How do you not see this. Why would anyone completely switch who he wants to lynch because they cannot confirm their role. That's his only reason for voting Circus. Nothing else. Where as he supposedly had a super strong scum read on Beat.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

I'm willing to lynch GLG instead if it gets me cleared. ;D


The statement "I am a member of the town and I win with the town" only evaluates to true if both halves are true.

(I am town) && (I win with town)

Everybody else should phrase it just like mine.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Beat, are you still down with a GLG wagon?

 

[Xivii]

Can we lynch Kevin and call it a day?

We can hit him in the night.

 

[Xivii]

Or later.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

GLG and Circus are interchangeable to me. GLG is scum and I agree that his flop was scummy. Makes sense that his actions are scummy -- since he's scum. I've been waiting for that flop all Day, and if we weren't so close to deadline, I'd have waved it in his face. But I changed my vote because we're close to deadline and people were on Circus instead, and because GLG was just flatout not posting. I'm not moving unless a) GLG is already the lynch by a comfortably wide margin, and b) Circus actually scumhunts and isn't opportunistic and makes things happen. He said flatout that his recent votes on Beat and GLG were because they were the best shot at a lynch that wasn't him.

Right now we are comfortably near a lynch, and he's already claimed, and it's close to deadline. Time's on our side for once and that is a sexy thing.

 

[Xivii]

What about Rads backupness?

 

[Beat!]

Beat, are you still down with a GLG wagon?

Yes, definitely.

 

[Xivii]

Rad I'm sorry, but you should retract your target on Circus. Not sure why you used it before we had the lynch set anyway.

Beat we are lynching glg again.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

He probably can't retarget. GLG is scum though so that doesn't matter.

 

[Beat!]

Beat we are lynching glg again.

Yaaay

Unvote
Vote: GLG

 

[~ Gheb ~]

So if glg flips BG Rad will not take his role?

Main issue I'm having is that we're kind of trusting the most questionable claim. Back-up is a really shitty claim and easy for scum to fake ... especially on a role that's already hard to verify like lie detector.

 

[Circus]

What about Rads backupness?

That whole thing confuses me. I thought a back-up just backed up the first person available which I would think would have been Dark Horse or at least Rajam. But he claims he has "targeted" me for the back-up, which makes it sound like he should just be able to take over my role whenever I die, but the way he talks about it, that must not be the case. And I still don't get why this would be an ability for Hellboy anyway.

 

[Circus]

Aracaninja.

 

[Circus]

Actually, that should be "Arcaninja." Spelling fail.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Unvote Vote KevinM

 

[Xivii]

Unvote Vote KevinM

 

[Overswarm]

Votecount:

Beatstick - GLG, Red Ryu,
HepAlien - ranmaru,
Radical Fiction - MOD,
Circus - JTB, Radical Fiction, Nabe,
GLG - Zen, Circus, Beatstick,
KevinM - Gheb
Not Voting: HepAlien, KevinM,

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
A deadline has been set for Friday, April 15th, at 3:00 p.m. EST.


Moriarty is replaced by KevinM. If Tom is coming back, let me know but he's been absent for long enough.

 

[Xivii]

Nabe, Hep, Ryu, Ran please do vote for glg.

 

[JTB]

Gheb, do you really believe that a KevM lynch will happen less than 24 hours for the deadline?

 

[Radical Fiction]

No, a scumbag or inactive player should hammer. Kevin, Nabe, Hep - one of these guys should drop hammer.

Rad, assuming there's another protective role don't you think he would've CC'd glg by now?

I take nothing for granted.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

I have faith

 

[JTB]

Do you expect people to suddenly switch to KevM or are you going to convince us?

 

[Radical Fiction]

Okay.

1.) I have to target before the lynch is set, that's why.
2.) I will not be able to retarget.
3.) Freaking GLG is an uncountered protective role. He switched to Circus near the end of the day. If you lynch him and he was telling the truth, scum have free roam of the night. The role he claimed involves him dying anyway.

Look, I will get into meta reasons that I don't think GLG is scum if I ****ing have to, but if Circus flips scum, then great. If he flips ****ing town and you have GLG on me, then he has to die or I go on a clearing spree and you can lynch me before LyLo or something.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

You forgot the part that we have no way of knowing you're telling us the truth in the first place. Key problem.
Though I agree that glg isn't a good lynch toDay.

Kevin on the other hand can die asap. I'm down to switch to Circus if needed but not glg.

And I'm going to reiterate that a scummy or inactive player should drop the hammer.

 

[Circus]

Okay.

1.) I have to target before the lynch is set, that's why.

I assume this just means you had to target someone before the hammer. You still could have waited. At what time did you target me toDay?

3.) Freaking GLG is an uncountered protective role. He switched to Circus near the end of the day. If you lynch him and he was telling the truth, scum have free roam of the night. The role he claimed involves him dying anyway.

There's no reason to believe that we definitely have two protective roles in this game, let alone two variations on basically the exact same role (remember, Rajam was basically just a variant of a bodyguard).

Look, I will get into meta reasons that I don't think GLG is scum if I ****ing have to, but if Circus flips scum, then great. If he flips ****ing town and you have GLG on me, then he has to die or I go on a clearing spree and you can lynch me before LyLo or something.

Please do get into meta reasons. Because at this point, I just don't believe you. I don't know why other people think you're obvtown, because to me you really aren't. Your claim doesn't make any sense in terms of flavor or function. Having to target a town player during the Day and then making sure that player gets lynched that Day in order to gain their powers is stupidly inconvenient and unhelpful if you're a townie. And apparently you can only do this once in the game? If I don't get lynched toDay, you become a permanent VT? I just don't believe it.

I say we lynch GLG toNight, and I lasso RadFic's role claim post. I'm not trying to be selfish, but that bit is honestly the shadiest thing I think I can look in to. Does anyone have any objections to that?

 

[Circus]

'Nother Arcaninja.

Kevin can die another Day, Gheb. What makes him such a better lynch than GLG to you?

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Kevin can die another Day, Gheb. What makes him such a better lynch than GLG to you?

Are you even aware what you're asking now - what makes a blatantly inactive player a better lynch than an UNCOUNTERCLAIMED PROTECTOR? Do I even have to explain that to you?

The only scum tell is his switch onto Circus which is kind of blown out of proportion. I'm not comfortable with that lynch atm.

 

[Radical Fiction]

I assume this just means you had to target someone before the hammer. You still could have waited. At what time did you target me toDay?

Yesterday and I have to at least 48 hours before deadline.

There's no reason to believe that we definitely have two protective roles in this game, let alone two variations on basically the exact same role (remember, Rajam was basically just a variant of a bodyguard).

Except that it would make the set-up EXTREMELY swingy. We have two confirmed kills with one protective role that can block one kill? Yes, we could only have one, but the odds are slim to none.

Please do get into meta reasons. Because at this point, I just don't believe you. I don't know why other people think you're obvtown, because to me you really aren't. Your claim doesn't make any sense in terms of flavor or function. Having to target a town player during the Day and then making sure that player gets lynched that Day in order to gain their powers is stupidly inconvenient and unhelpful if you're a townie. And apparently you can only do this once in the game? If I don't get lynched toDay, you become a permanent VT? I just don't believe it.

But would I have fakeclaimed something that's flavor didn't match?

During any day, I can target anyone. If they are town, I get their role whenever they die. I just don't believe you're town either. We're even.

I say we lynch GLG toNight, and I lasso RadFic's role claim post. I'm not trying to be selfish, but that bit is honestly the shadiest thing I think I can look in to. Does anyone have any objections to that?

Which accomplishes what? You wouldn't know my alignment. You are still scummy as ****. If you're going to have that role, try and clear Hep or KevMo or Nabe or JTB.

 

[JTB]

Gheb, what makes KevM a better lynch than Circus then?

 

[Radical Fiction]

For the record, KevM isn't a bad lynch at all.

Prod KevMo?

 

[Circus]

Gheb, he's an un-counterclaimed protective role that cannot be proven unless he dies, in a game that has already lost a protective role. His claim is believable but it's not at all a sure thing. And you're harping on Kevin for being inactive (which is fine, I mean it's me you're talking to), but GLG has been plenty inactive too. Not as much as Kevin has been, perhaps, but he's very coasty.

Will get to RadFic in a sec.

 

[Radical Fiction]

Gheb, he's an un-counterclaimed protective role that cannot be proven unless he dies, in a game that has already lost a protective role. His claim is believable but it's not at all a sure thing. And you're harping on Kevin for being inactive (which is fine, I mean it's me you're talking to), but GLG has been plenty inactive too. Not as much as Kevin has been, perhaps, but he's very coasty.

You're BEGGING to die.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Gheb, what makes KevM a better lynch than Circus then?

I'm fairly certain that there's a way to verify Circus' role claim.

And I'd like to add that RadFic's role claim is still garbage ... even if he's telling the truth that sounds like the biggest piece of BS role.
Though Circus acting like Raj's role is supposed to be "the" protector in this game - even though it hardly offers protection and it's a 15 ppl game filled with PRs - is also him being lenient with the facts and possibilities for his own sake I think.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Can't get rid of the feeling that JTB has been pretty useless too and that he's laying low. He's one of the people I think would be good to drop hammer too.

 

[Radical Fiction]

JTB is doing a **** ton better than Vandy was with that slot. Hep is far worse than him, imo.