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Super Heroes Mafia: Day 7 ends! Nabe and Circus wins! Zen dies in end game!

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What indy hints?
As I mentioned yesterDay, SvI is by sheer numbers the most unlikely scenario, yet you thought it was worth to hint at a possible Indy in that exchange?
You also mentioned that we can "lynch you later in case we think you're indy".

Why do you have so much indy on your mind? If you specifically point out that it's better to keep indies for later why mention them in the first place?

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As I mentioned yesterDay, SvI is by sheer numbers the most unlikely scenario, yet you thought it was worth to hint at a possible Indy in that exchange?
Pay attention. Go back and read your #729. Your use of the word "hint" does not fit properly with what you are describing. The word "express" or "answered" or something of the like would be more accurate. I was asked specifically if there was an SvS interaction between you and X1, and I answered no but you could possibly be SvI. My reasoning is in 729 that you quoted and looked over.
You also mentioned that we can "lynch you later in case we think you're indy".
I never once said that you can lynch me later in case I'm indy.
Why do you have so much indy on your mind?
I don't.
If you specifically point out that it's better to keep indies for later why mention them in the first place?

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"SvI possibly" is all I said. Then I explained when asked and moved on.
 

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Bah, I probably look too much into a null-tell here and it's dumb to look for indy hint atm anyway.

Reread doesn't tell me much news though I'm kind of worried about RF being largely unnoticed [by me at least].

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So everyone voting for BeatStick right now thinks that the interaction between he and X1 on D1 was distancing?
Zen, GLG, I'd at least like acknowledgment of this, please. Zen, do you or do you not think Beat is scummy at this point in time?

Mm. The way he got on the X1 vote after Zen did and said he'd been planning to was suspicious.

Clearly. Hence the case I made.
Is that so unbelievable that you have to keep asking?
Mostly, I want to make sure people are actually considering the connection rather than just focusing on Beat independently. Also, their early D1 interaction wasn't the only time they spoke to each other.

@Moriarty/Kevin: What Ryu said.

Vote: Kuz

Unreal, dude. Seriously. Start playing or ask for a replacement.

Odd. People are posting but not helping me catch up.

They must want the game to stall, since I specifically stated the consequences.

Hope they change their minds. I have content I would love to post.
Swiss, whenever you have the chance, please do get to this.
 

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Though he is less town than yesterday. Playing weird, especially with his vote on you. Really looked bussy and or oportunistic. His unvote is just as suspicious. I also don't feel the interaction b/w him and X1 is enough to say he is town. He didn't put much work into his scum read of X1, and he never returned to him after that early vote.
 

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Vander, Hep, Kevin - who's the play toDay?

Circus, do you really think you're achieving anything by voting kuz now of all times? Specific reason I'm asking this so plz make sure to answer.

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/Request Replacement

Thought I could handle it but I obviously can't. I am being unfair to everyone in this game and I can't keep holding up this slot just because I have too much pride to replace out of games.

Apologies to OS and players.
 

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Circus, do you really think you're achieving anything by voting kuz now of all times? Specific reason I'm asking this so plz make sure to answer.

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Well, not now.

Unvote

But, yes, I would at least hope I could have achieved something. I said that I would be on Kuz if he hadn't at least stated that he was on the way to catching up by two nights ago, so I got on him. OS has said and shown that he's taking activity in this game more lightly, meaning we have to police people on our own, to a certain extent. I don't know of a better way to do that than to vote for someone and hope it might actually be some decent incentive for that person to participate.

Though now that Kuz has finally asked for a replacement, none of that matters.

Kevin, you done reading?

Everyone else, where you at?
 

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Well, not now.

Unvote

But, yes, I would at least hope I could have achieved something. I said that I would be on Kuz if he hadn't at least stated that he was on the way to catching up by two nights ago, so I got on him. OS has said and shown that he's taking activity in this game more lightly, meaning we have to police people on our own, to a certain extent. I don't know of a better way to do that than to vote for someone and hope it might actually be some decent incentive for that person to participate.

Though now that Kuz has finally asked for a replacement, none of that matters.

Kevin, you done reading?

Everyone else, where you at?


Vote: Moriarty
 

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Vote: Circus

Next post from you should be putting your vote on someone and explaining why they're a good lynch for the Day. The reasoning for you policing inactives makes enough sense, but you still can't justify not scumhunting. That unvote is ugly.
 

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Hello. I'll re-read fully before giving reads. I promise I won't give a big post like I usually do when I replace.

I'll also give some speculations too along with the reads.
 

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Circus you should just claim now. You being the play is pretty much inevitable.

Nabe you still think glg is scum or what?
 

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Vote: Circus

Next post from you should be putting your vote on someone and explaining why they're a good lynch for the Day. The reasoning for you policing inactives makes enough sense, but you still can't justify not scumhunting. That unvote is ugly.
There's nothing ugly about my unvote, and I'm not going to let you boss me around just because you feel like you're in a position to do so. I'd like you to tell me what I should apparently be doing, which everyone else must be doing but I must not be, that would prove that I'm scumhunting.

Tangentially related, I seem to be a scapegoat for you, whenever you don't know where to put your vote. Have you noticed that? Is that intentional? And what happened to GLG definitely being the play toDay? I guess he must have convinced you he was town even though you were apparently sure he wasn't. Can you show me where?

@Zen: It's three days into the Day, and hardly any discussion has taken place. There is no town reason I can think of for why you should be this keen on solidifying a lynch this early, nor why you should care about my role yet.

@Ryu: I can't see your image.

@Ranmaru: Welcome to the game.
 

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Because I don't feel like wasting time getting you to L-1 to claim. I'm not solidifying your lynch, you are. With like everything you post. You're such a distraction. I just want you to claim now and get you out the way.
 

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I'm a distraction? What could I even be distracting anyone from? Hardly anyone else is even posting.

I don't follow your logic at all. You want me to claim right now because you're too lazy to convince other people I should be put at L-1, and you can't focus on other players until I have claimed? Why not? Give me one good reason why you can't pressure Moriarty or RadFic or anyone into actually providing some content. You seemed to think GLG was scummy enough to lynch a few days ago, but now you don't even seem to care that he hasn't posted in more than two days. You aren't doing anything to change that. You could be. Don't blame that on me being distracting when really you just aren't interested in doing anything.
 

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Give me one good reason why you can't pressure Moriarty or RadFic or anyone into actually providing some content. You seemed to think GLG was scummy enough to lynch a few days ago, but now you don't even seem to care that he hasn't posted in more than two days. You aren't doing anything to change that. You could be. Don't blame that on me being distracting when really you just aren't interested in doing anything.
If you care so strongly about this, why does it only come up as a "but they're doing it too!!!!!" post? I mean, if it needs doing, why don't you do it? Why haven't you done it? And why should we believe you would've ever gotten around to doing it?
 

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If you care so strongly about this, why does it only come up as a "but they're doing it too!!!!!" post? I mean, if it needs doing, why don't you do it? Why haven't you done it? And why should we believe you would've ever gotten around to doing it?
I am doing it. I asked you twice to post whatever content you claimed to have before D1's deadline toDay, and have not gotten jack in return. Your Ryker half simply blew me off and said "that's a Swiss post lol" and your Swiss half hasn't come on to answer me. I've commented on your seeming inability to post anything of actual use a handful of times throughout this game, but that doesn't seem to phase you, nor does it apparently sway anyone else. I've also talked about Kevin's lack of activity (though I'm certainly not the only one), and I asked GLG to comment on my last question directed toward him and he simply hasn't responded.

I'm asking questions and trying to apply pressure, but no one is cooperating. Maybe if more people were helping with it, some of it might actually do some good (probably not Kevin; he seems unable/unwilling to keep up with this thread no matter who pesters him about it). But since I have apparently drawn fire for reasons that even I'm not really clear on, no one seems to feel the need to answer to me.
 

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I'm still reading, but I think the direction of zen is better, beat.

Can you explain that vote?
 

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I realized that this

I'm also gonna throw out the idea that scum Circus would've been more eager to jump on my wagon, since it would put attention on someone else. Thoughts?
Is weak and full of WIFOM, and I retract that statement

Circus is scummeh. I can add some quotes of my own if you want.



I disagree with Zen being a better lynch.
 

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Yes please, I would like that.

Ok, I disagree with you too. I'll post further about him after my read. (Circus is a push over though, and makes weak stances on inactives >_> )

Back to reading.
 

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RedRyu, are you earnestly going to continue to damn Moriarty for "bullying" the rest of this ****ing game? You're being seriously useless at the moment because you're completely backpedaling us into stuff that was hardly scummy yesterDay already. Being supposedly unable to make more than 1 post with words each Day does not justify you not contributing to our current discussion.

We moved from D1.
You didn't.

Posting almost only pictures is not an excuse for this.

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Nevermind, saw zen saying he shot. K. anyone think Zen's role might be an executioner role like J's in Inception Mafia? (J had a one shot)

@Beat's question: I don't think Circus would jump on you because he seems to be a push over with people who are anti-town. He wouldn't jump on you for fear of OMGUS from you or something. He'd rather vote inactives instead. He isn't scumhunting.

I retract my #1064. Circus or Nabe can go.

Nabe because he asked Circus a question that Circus had already answered, meaning he skimmed. Nabe also didn't really read deeply into Gheb, but when asked, had to re-read more about him before going further.
 

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Ryker, call me tonight my time bby. Will do a full read - at work so no skype.

@ game people - Gonna be gettin' in a real trip whip of a re-read in. You want me to know something in particular you tell me ASAP 'cuz I'mma skim ******* posts.

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Ran, you know Zen could also be lying about having shot X1, right? Let's not assume more than we know for fact.

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@Ran

Good question. Maybe Gheb, almost by process of elimination. I hardly know anyone here. I know Tom and Kev pretty well, but that doesn't mean I'm at all good at reading them, even when they're separated. Aside from that, I've been playing with Zen, Nabe, and Swiss in Royal Sleepover, so I might be able to read them better than the rest. Though Swiss is hydra-ing with someone, so who even knows? Overall, this one's going to take some feelin' out for me.

...Do Tom and Kevin really only post in pictures as Moriarty? I don't remember that being a thing. That is going to be hell for my scumdar.
An extremely long way of saying "I'm not that confident in reading anyone here". Seems like he wants to look tryhard without talking about anything particularly important.

He also finishes off with expressing some weak suspicion that looks really fake.

What goes on here? Zen's being overzealous and BeatStick's being a sheep and Moriarty and RadFic are being bullies and everyone's hot under the collar but no one's being scummy yet.

And all of the people I don't know are the ones who aren't talking.

Vote: Rajam

I don't know you. What's up, stranger?
I really don't like the entire "What are you doing guys I'm gonna come in and clear everything up here" approach.

The vote on Rajam was null at this point imo, but still an "easy" one from a scum perspective.

I know this wasn't directed at me, but I really don't think Zen and Beat need any more pressure right now. Zen's already got three votes on him and I don't think they would even be necessary to get him to talk. And Beat doesn't seem to be biting his tongue either. Would rather look into Rajam, Dark Horse, Kuz, etc.
From this post I get the impression that he knows the alignment of both Zen and I.

Sorry, I totally missed this post when I read through the first time. The answer is yes, but DH has obviously been posting more since I made that post (though his use of the word "posthumous" confuses me).

On the topic of things that confuse me: the way Zen is playing. Zen, the conversation you just had with BeatStick looks like it was really pointless to me. In fact, I'm see a lot of fluff in your posts. It seems super unlikely that scum would put themselves as directly in the spotlight as you're putting yourself, but I don't understand what you're trying to accomplish with half of the questions you're asking.

"I don't like your play but I don't think it's scummy."
Pointing out stuff for the sake of it. Looks like fake contribution.
 

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I am doing it. I asked you twice to post whatever content you claimed to have before D1's deadline toDay, and have not gotten jack in return. Your Ryker half simply blew me off and said "that's a Swiss post lol" and your Swiss half hasn't come on to answer me. I've commented on your seeming inability to post anything of actual use a handful of times throughout this game, but that doesn't seem to phase you, nor does it apparently sway anyone else. I've also talked about Kevin's lack of activity (though I'm certainly not the only one), and I asked GLG to comment on my last question directed toward him and he simply hasn't responded.

I'm asking questions and trying to apply pressure, but no one is cooperating. Maybe if more people were helping with it, some of it might actually do some good (probably not Kevin; he seems unable/unwilling to keep up with this thread no matter who pesters him about it). But since I have apparently drawn fire for reasons that even I'm not really clear on, no one seems to feel the need to answer to me.
You aren't doing a good job then.

1.) We're pretty obv town. We haven't done much today because not much has changed from yesterday except for Gheb getting off my scum list, but we did more than enough yesterday. Subject to change if Swiss comes through for me today.
2.) Moriarty is pretty obv town. Played like a boss while Tom was still around. I stick to my town read and still want to be friends. Confident in my ability to read Kevin if I'm somehow wrong. Also confident he'll pick it up to activity levels I will accept from Kevin when he can. I know what it's like having half a hydra. It's uncool.
3.) You really don't have a scum read on ANYONE who's active and would contribute actual discussion?
 

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Unvote Vote Nabe

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Can you explain the Nabe angle, because, tbh, I've got him null because I don't remember much of anything valuable he's said (him, GLG, Kuz/Ran, and GLG)? I'm going to reread, with Swiss hopefully, and I'll see what I can dredge up.
 

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Ryker, call me tonight my time bby. Will do a full read - at work so no skype.

@ game people - Gonna be gettin' in a real trip whip of a re-read in. You want me to know something in particular you tell me ASAP 'cuz I'mma skim ******* posts.

*cop-doc breadcrumb*
Thank the Lord. About time.
 

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Can you explain the Nabe angle, because, tbh, I've got him null because I don't remember much of anything valuable he's said.


You kind of answered your own question here. But he's also been plenty opportunistic late D1 when it came down to lynch.

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Ugh, messed up the emphasis in the quote tags. I wanted to bold & underline the "I don't remember much of anything he said" part.

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