Super Heroes Mafia: Day 7 ends! Nabe and Circus wins! Zen dies in end game!

[Overswarm]

In the OP, X1 and Rajam are specifically noted as dead, but Dark Horse is still listed as alive....

Mod error. Fixed.

 

[Xivii]

OS, what do you think of Circus?

 

[Radical Fiction]

Not feeling great about Radical Fiction, but a vote for him right now would look like an omgus. BeatStick's sheepiness is rubbing me the wrong way, but his interactions with X1 make me think they're not on the same side.

Looooooooooool

Good luck pal, you'd need it. And fear of OMGUS? What is that all about?

He's really avoiding taking firm scum stances against anyone.

 

[giraffelasergun]

And yet, he continued to dog them all day.

However, I didn't vote for either of them for the rest of the day because I realized that they weren't to be the day one lynch. Am I dogging them because when someone asked me my scum suspects I responded with those two when they were?

Further ugliness:

I'm surprised you haven't picked up on this since you're the claimed master of my meta, but whenever I have mild suspicions I don't say what they are because then I can't tell if they're changing because they want to or because I told them too. Happened with Magna a lot back on aib.

=/ What is this even this isn't an opinion.

Oh.

Unvote
Vote: GLG

The play for toDay.

Do you really think you have enough reasoning to warrant a lynch? Not only a lynch but the only lynch for today?

tl;dr you are full of **** and I honestly don't understand why you're so gungho about my lynch and only my lynch.

 

[Circus]

Looooooooooool

Good luck pal, you'd need it. And fear of OMGUS? What is that all about?

He's really avoiding taking firm scum stances against anyone.

Because I don't have firm scum stances against anyone. And I'm not going to make any up just to look better. I realize it's customary for "experienced" players to act like they've got bingos on people five minutes into the game, but not all of us are super sleuths.

Would you like to actually add some content for once, or are you content to continue hurling tomatoes at people from offstage?

 

[Xivii]

Circus, the thing is, you're not TRYING to find scum. And most everyone here has given stances, experiened & non-experienced.

Look through X1's posts at least.

 

[Radical Fiction]

Because I don't have firm scum stances against anyone. And I'm not going to make any up just to look better. I realize it's customary for "experienced" players to act like they've got bingos on people five minutes into the game, but not all of us are super sleuths.

Would you like to actually add some content for once, or are you content to continue hurling tomatoes at people from offstage?

You aren't DOING anything. When you don't have firm stances, you take stances anyway. You go back and change them if they change, but you pressure, you question, and you scumhunt. You're standing backstage making comments about who should go on stage next (Kuz) and never stepping out yourself.

 

[HepAlien]

2. I really don't understand why you guys have such difficulty with my X1 case. Just because it was an early read, doesn't make it any less true. Tell me what was reaching about it. People keep saying this, but have not given reason as to why it was not valid reasoning. I've been in many games with X1 and I just know how he plays. Last game I was in with him people thought I was scummy for calling him 100% town without much reason. I wasn't scum there and I'm not scum here.

it's not that what you said can't be genuine. it would just make more sense to me if you were trying to justify a conclusion rather than finding evidence and coming to that conclusion later. it was a pretty strong stance to take so early in the game. maybe you're just that much more familiar with this stuff than i am, but i'm skeptical.

3. I copped out of the day cop claim because a) Rajam was so scummy and b) it would have some serious backfire if I was in fact wrong about x1.

so why did you even do it?

4. With regards to the "If I'm indy" comment, I was saying that there is no need for you to focus on me today. There's way more scummier people, and by the time they are lynched, town will have won. You focusing on me is a waste of time.

see, but a comment like this spooks me. "don't worry about me, it's pointless." "ignore me, i swear i'm not worth your time." "even if i am indy, it's irrelevant, town will win anyway." it just feels so shady.

 

[Xivii]

I think DH turned scum if he masoned with or sent in the name of the person that turns him scum.

The seeker in Monster Mafia had to like find his mason partner or something. Gheb knows. Beat could be onto something with the multiple-factions based on DH flipping a different color. But then again OS could have just switched it up or it could have been brown just because he wasn't exactly scum.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Vote: Beat

GLG, what did you think of my catching Circus and Beat? Pro, amirite?

Hep, shut up about Zen briefly. Where is your mind at re: the Terrible Trio?

 

[giraffelasergun]

Vote: Beat

GLG, what did you think of my catching Circus and Beat? Pro, amirite?

Hep, shut up about Zen briefly. Where is your mind at re: the Terrible Trio?

1) I totally caught Beat yesterday. Even if you do think you have beat, you don't even have the best part!
2) Is this you "gambiting?"

 

[Xivii]

Hep @3: Iunno. Felt like a good time being April Fools and all. And only a few of us were online. I wasn't sure if I would stick to it. I made the decision not to after I did it.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

You caught Beat? Colour me surprised. Why isn't your vote on him?

That's a silly word, and you and I both know the answer to that already.

You didn't answer what you think of my catching Circus.

 

[HepAlien]

Hep, shut up about Zen briefly. Where is your mind at re: the Terrible Trio?

define the terrible trio for me.

 

[giraffelasergun]

You caught Beat? Colour me surprised. Why isn't your vote on him?

That's a silly word, and you and I both know the answer to that already.

You didn't answer what you think of my catching Circus.

I have to dig up the quotes.

So yes?

Catching someone noncommital being noncommital isn't hard.

 

[Circus]

You aren't DOING anything. When you don't have firm stances, you take stances anyway. You go back and change them if they change, but you pressure, you question, and you scumhunt. You're standing backstage making comments about who should go on stage next (Kuz) and never stepping out yourself.

if we're judging by content within posts, then i've been doing a hell of a lot more than you have

"When you don't have firm stances, you take stances anyway?" How does that make any sense? Besides, I have stated stances, just not firm opinions on who is scum. I gave my thoughts on plenty of people in my #1000. They just aren't big, revelatory cases. The fact of the matter is that most of the people who have been posting content and have given enough of an impression of themselves for me to read relatively clearly, I currently think are town. Therefor, people who have been less forthcoming (Kuz, GLG, even yourself and Moriarty and Vanderzant) are the ones I'm more worried about. But since they've hardly said anything, I have nothing to build off of. And when I vote for inactives to try to get them to talk, I get the "stop tunneling inactives" BS.

@Zen: Who says I'm not already doing that? I've been periodically skimming through X1's posts for a while now. Just because I don't state in the thread that I'm doing something doesn't mean I'm just sitting on my *** eating cheetos (though I am also doing that).

I'm sick of other people telling me what I am and am not doing.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Don't play dumb, Hep.

Circus, Beat and GLG.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

I'm sick of other people telling me what I am and am not doing.

You should start doing something then.

 

[Xivii]

Ojamaaas

Also what Nabe said.

 

[HepAlien]

gross.

to be honest, i'm leaning town on all of them. probably giraffe the least though.

 

[giraffelasergun]

RF seems to be posting pictures in most games he's in, and even though it gets pretty annyoing after a while, I understand what he's saying every time.

I also can't see him and Moriarty being scum together, considering their high level of agreement so far, and since Moriarty is on my scum list atm, I naturally don't consider RF scum. Might of course change if Moriarty is town.

Two scum buddying each other sounds like a high risk high reward strategy, so I could definitely see it being a viable option.

Vote: Beatstick

I should probably say something here: Beat says rf isn't likely scum because he thinks moriarty is and they agree too much, but at the same time two scum buddying each other is a viable strategy.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

That's not bad. Quick, too.
So what do you think of me catching Beat? You didn't really say.

 

[giraffelasergun]

I think its great. I mean I'm really confident he's scum but I'm bad at convincing people so the more people that see it the better.

 

[Xivii]

Circus is right about one thing, the people he mentioned need to step it up.

Vote: Beat

 

[giraffelasergun]

Therefor, people who have been less forthcoming (Kuz, GLG, even yourself and Moriarty and Vanderzant) are the ones I'm more worried about. But since they've hardly said anything, I have nothing to build off of. And when I vote for inactives to try to get them to talk, I get the "stop tunneling inactives" BS.

Am I the only person that forgot Vand was playing?

 

[Circus]

So everyone voting for BeatStick right now thinks that the interaction between he and X1 on D1 was distancing?

Nabe, what made you decide GLG was the play toDay, initially? You just did a reread and a handful of posts jumped out at you as super scummy?

 

[KevinM]

Going to talk to Tom about him outing today so I can just post from here. Filler post to say I'm reading now <3.

 

[vanderzant]

Prod dodge, will be home in about 4 days.

 

[Beat!]

This isn't quite the yes or no I was hoping for.

Point was that I didn't have a case on Circus D1, none whatsoever. I'll let Zen take over with you, because lol, check out 968 wherein I point out a big scumslip from Circus.

MLG

Yes, you did lol. You asked him a ton of questions semi-early D1 and eventually followed up with:

Not liking Circus one bit. I've been heavily suspicious of him in a prior game, and my feelings haven't changed with his play this game. He answered my questions nicely and in a more prepared way than I thought he would. But he keeps making statements that seem shallow, and I don't think he's scumhunting. His posts seem very reserved and are largely addressed to the players who've addressed him first.

That's a case, imo. You didn't make any long-*** posts against him, if that's what you mean, but that's not my definition of a case.

Vote: Beatstick

I should probably say something here: Beat says rf isn't likely scum because he thinks moriarty is and they agree too much, but at the same time two scum buddying each other is a viable strategy.

So, I say that a certain strategy is viable, but still very risky

And I say that it's unlikely that Moriarty and RF is using said strategy, because it is very risky

Kind of like how I said that X1 vs Gheb being SvS was possible, but unlikely.

There is no contradiction.

 

[Beat!]

Oh, and

*lets go of Zen's hand*

son i am dissapoint

 

[~ Gheb ~]

One thing I remember from yesterDay:

@Zen

You mentioned that the interaction between X1 and myself was likely / possibly SvI. Now that X1 flipped Mafia, do you still believe this to be the case? You seem to drop indy hints here and there, any particular reason for that?

 

[Xivii]

What indy hints? And yes you can still be indy.

 

[Xivii]

Oh, and

*lets go of Zen's hand*

son i am dissapoint

Vote: Kuz

 

[Overswarm]

Votecount:

Circus - Gheb, Radical Fiction, Beatstick,
Beatstick - Nabe, GLG,
Kuzinator - Zen,

Not Voting: Circus, th3Kuzinator, Vanderzant, HepAlien, Red Ryu, Moriarty

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
A deadline has been set for Friday, April 15th, at 3:00 p.m. EST.

 

[Beat!]

Vote: Kuz

<3

I'm also gonna throw out the idea that scum Circus would've been more eager to jump on my wagon, since it would put attention on someone else. Thoughts?

unvote

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

So everyone voting for BeatStick right now thinks that the interaction between he and X1 on D1 was distancing?

Nabe, what made you decide GLG was the play toDay, initially? You just did a reread and a handful of posts jumped out at you as super scummy?

Mm. The way he got on the X1 vote after Zen did and said he'd been planning to was suspicious.

Clearly. Hence the case I made.
Is that so unbelievable that you have to keep asking?

That's a case, imo. You didn't make any long-*** posts against him, if that's what you mean, but that's not my definition of a case.

Alright.
So you agree with that case, then?

I'm also gonna throw out the idea that scum Circus would've been more eager to jump on my wagon, since it would put attention on someone else. Thoughts?

Only matters if you're not his scum partner.

 

[Beat!]

Alright.
So you agree with that case, then?

Yes. Myself, I'd use less extreme words ("not liking one bit", "heavily" suspicious, "shallow", etc), but I agree with the points themselves.

Only matters if you're not his scum partner.

True dat. Keep it in mind though.

 

[Xivii]

<3

I'm also gonna throw out the idea that scum Circus would've been more eager to jump on my wagon, since it would put attention on someone else. Thoughts?

unvote

Na Circus is still scum. He can wait though. We need some content from Kuz, Vandy, and Kev or they can go.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

The phrase "heavily suspicious" was in regards to his play in Sleepover, Beat. It would have been hard for you to have agreed with that, lol.

 

[Beat!]

Oh yeah, lol.